Ashley is joined Sam Bailey, director of Marvel’s Ironheart, Brown Girls, Dear White People and more. Hear what they think about the latest in Chicago TV, working in Hollywood during Trump’s presidency, and of course, what they’re watching. 

You can find Sam Bailey at @sqb23 on Substack.

SUBSCRIBE to @tvisaypod for more. 

TV I Say is an COURIER production.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices