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Can You Reverse Heart Disease? What My Plaque Scans Showed | Dr Campbell Rogers

July 6
1h 15m

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Episode Description

In late 2024 a CT scan revealed a small amount of soft plaque in my arteries. Sixteen months later I scanned again, and my plaque volume had dropped by around forty percent. In this episode I ask the cardiologist behind the technology whether a result like that can really be trusted.

Dr Campbell Rogers is an interventional cardiologist, a former Harvard faculty member who ran the cath lab at Brigham and Women's Hospital, and now Chief Medical Officer at Heartflow.

What we cover:

  • The difference between a calcium score, a CT coronary angiogram, and AI plaque analysis
  • Why a calcium score of zero does not mean you are free of disease
  • What my own scans showed, and why Campbell believes the result
  • Soft versus calcified plaque, and why calcification can be a sign of stabilisation
  • Treating the plaque you can see rather than just an ApoB number
  • Who should consider getting scanned, and the honest trade-offs

This is a conversation about seeing a disease we used to only guess at, held with the right amount of scientific humility. If you want to understand your own heart health, I think it is well worth your time.

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To connect with Dr Campbell Rogers, visit Heartflow.

  • How Campbell Rogers went from cardiologist to Heartflow (00:00)
  • What Heartflow is and how it works (07:26)
  • Coronary CT angiogram vs. stress test (11:54)
  • Why symptoms alone miss early heart disease (13:18)
  • How Heartflow analyzes CT scans in 90 minutes (15:58)
  • Calcified vs. non-calcified plaque: which is riskier (21:28)
  • Why calcium score zero doesn't mean no heart disease (28:45)
  • Who should get a CT angiogram with AI plaque analysis (31:09)
  • Why seeing your plaque improves medication adherence (34:04)
  • Simon's 2024 Heartflow scan results (39:12)
  • How plaque rupture triggers a heart attack (43:25)
  • Simon's 2026 Heartflow scan: 40% plaque reduction in 16 months (45:43)
  • How long to wait between CT scans (51:14)
  • Heartflow vs. Cleerly vs. QAngio (53:12)
  • How Heartflow results led Simon to start statins (58:21)
  • JAMA study: Heartflow tracks plaque in prostate cancer patients (1:00:10)
  • What is low attenuation plaque and why it's high risk (1:02:53)
  • Who should ask their doctor about a coronary CT angiogram (1:07:37)

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