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In part two of this conversation, Rob Brown continues the discussion with Gary Thomson and David Bundy on one of the biggest challenges facing accounting firms today: governance that no longer fits the complexity of the modern firm.

The conversation explores the warning signs of outdated governance structures, why consensus-driven decision making can slow firms down and how leaders can navigate the difficult transition from partner-led management to more scalable leadership models.

Gary and David share practical insights on accountability, trust, change management and the importance of aligning governance with the firm’s future strategy. They also discuss why governance isn’t just a compliance exercise, it’s a foundational element that either enables or limits growth, innovation, and succession planning.

For managing partners and firm leaders asking whether their current structure is ready for what’s ahead, this episode offers a candid and practical perspective on where to start.