It’s hard to focus on wellbeing when we’re expected to work nonstop until retirement. Taking a break from time to time should be a given, not a privilege.

Dr. Laurie works in one of the few industries that recognizes the importance of extended time off. As she begins her own year-long sabbatical from Yale, we’re revisiting her conversation with DJ DiDonna, author of Big Time Off, about what can happen when we step away from work for more than just a vacation.

DJ breaks down how to manage the biggest barriers to taking a sabbatical, from money and workplace optics to family responsibilities. He also explains why extended time off can help us recover from burnout, rethink our routines, and experiment with different versions of ourselves.

Whether you’re contemplating months away or just fantasizing about turning off your email, this episode makes the case that sometimes the best way to move forward is to stop for a while.

Experts Mentioned:

• DJ DiDonna, Senior Lecturer of Business Administration at Harvard Business School

Resources Mentioned:

• Big Time Off: The Transformative Power of Sabbaticals and How to Take One, by DJ DiDonna (2026)
• Recover, Explore, Practice: The Transformative Potential of Sabbaticals, by Kira Schabram, Matt Bloom, and DJ DiDonna (Academy of Management Discoveries, 2023)
•  The Sabbatical Project

Related Episodes:

• “You Can Change”
• “Happiness Lessons of the Ancients: The Day of Rest”
• “How to be Happier at Work (with Dan Harris)”
• “Burnout and How to Avoid It”

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