The Energetics of Being: A Human Design Podcast

·E15

Neurodiversity Celebration week - Communication: Are We Really Listening?

January 16
24 mins

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Episode Summary:

In Part 5 of this Neurodiversity Celebration Week mini-series, Sarah and Cassie explore the topic of communication, especially between neurodivergent and neurotypical individuals. They reflect on the importance of clear, direct language, how rejection sensitivity affects the way we hear things, and why “listening” isn’t just about hearing words.

They also touch on ADHD, verbal impulsivity, emotional regulation, and a powerful concept known as the Double Empathy Problem—offering a more compassionate perspective on communication breakdowns. If you’ve ever felt misunderstood, shut down in conversation, or overwhelmed by how others speak to you (or don’t!), this episode will hit home.

Topics Discussed:

  • What clean language is and why it supports neurodivergent minds
  • Listening as a leadership skill & communication vs connection
  • ADHD, impulsivity, blurting, and fast-paced thought
  • Rejection sensitivity and verbal processing
  • The Double Empathy Problem (Damien Milton’s theory)
  • Communication breakdowns in mixed neurotype groups
  • Creating psychological safety in teams
  • Tips for clearer communication, asking for clarity & slowing down

Timestamps:

00:00 – Welcome & why communication matters
 01:15 – What is “clean language”?
 03:00 – Different ways of listening & being present
 06:30 – The Double Empathy Problem explained
 10:15 – Miscommunication between neurodivergent & neurotypical folks
 13:45 – Rejection sensitivity & assumption-making
 16:20 – ADHD, verbal overflow & blurting out
 18:10 – Communication anxiety & fear of judgement
 20:40 – Why silence can feel unsafe
 23:00 – Compassion, curiosity & co-creating safety

Key Quotes:

"We're all meaning-making machines—and many of us are on overdrive."
"Listening isn’t about being active—it’s about presence."
"If you’re not sure what something means, clarify. Don’t just assume."
"Neurodivergent communication isn’t broken. It’s different—and often deeply nuanced."
"When we feel seen and safe, that’s when we show up best."

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