What if addiction isn’t just about substances—but about the human soul? 

In this episode of The Echoes Podcast, Marcus Goodyear and Camille Hall-Ortega sit down with bestselling author, Episcopal priest, psychotherapist, and Enneagram teacher Ian Morgan Cron to explore a surprising and deeply human idea: we are all addicts. Drawing from his latest book, The Fix, Ian reframes addiction as a misdirected longing—a search for connection, meaning, and ultimately, God. 
 
This conversation also explores the connection between the Enneagram and addiction, the power of self-awareness, and why “hurt people” may be uniquely equipped to help others heal. 

Show Notes: 

• The Typology Podcast with Ian Morgan Cron 
• IanMorganCron.com 
• The Fix by Ian Morgan Cron 
• The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron 
• The Grace of Letting Go, audio from Ian Morgan Cron's 2025 retreat at Laity Lodge 
• The Big Book from Alcoholics Anonymous 
• Carl Jung and 12 Steps origins 
• Chasing Francis: A Pilgrim’s Tale by Ian Morgan Cron 
• “I do not understand what I do...” Romans 7:15-20 
• Robert “Bob” Goff 
• Enneagram types 
• Introducing the Enneagram with Richard Rohr