Join Sara Fergenson (@sarafergenson) and Jess Sterling (@thejesssterling) as they chat about Season 5 Episode 16 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Body, with special guest, AJ Mass. They talk through Joyce's death, the lack of musical score, and this episode's depiction of grief.

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