In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss just how important exploits are for cyber operations using data published in a new paper authored by two members of Ukraine’s cyber security agency.

This episode is also available on YouTube.

Show notes

• Exploits were never the point
• Rethinking Exploitation in Cyber War: Reassessing the Role of Software Exploits in Wartime
• Max Smeets' chapter 5 from "No Shortcuts": The Elements of an Offensive Cyber Capability