Mickey Down and Konrad Kay (How To Make A HBO Show)

Nov 5, 2025
53 mins

Episode Description

Behind HBO's Industry, are showrunners Mickey Down and Konrad Kay, two ex-bankers who walked out of London's finance world to create one of TV's most compelling modern dramas. Here are the 6 creative lessons I learned from them about redefining your identity and doing great work...

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Timestamps:

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:56 The Journey: From Banking to HBO

00:12:45 Rule 1: Write What You Know

00:17:31 Rule 2: Give People a Peek Into an Inaccessible World

00:23:21 Rule 3: Study Human Nature

00:32:17 Rule 4: Create Something Shocking

00:40:32 Rule 5: Steal Like An Artist

00:46:35 Rule 6: Don't Stop Making

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