What happens when fighting for your life becomes a crime? Why are thousands of women and girls who defend themselves against violence prosecuted as offenders, sometimes for life.

Amanda sits down with journalist Justine van der Leun to discuss her new book Unreasonable Women which investigates "criminalized survival". They dig into the "reasonable man" standard, the believability problem facing survivors, and why the legal system seems built to disbelieve women even when the evidence is overwhelming.

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