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Molly Crabapple is an artist, journalist, and author of the new book Here Where We Live Is Our Country: The Story of the Jewish Bund. She joins Current Affairs editor-in-chief Nathan J. Robinson to discuss the history of the Bund, its fierce anti-Zionism, its vision of Jewish self-determination without an ethnostate, and what this forgotten socialist movement can teach us about solidarity, self-defense, and fighting fascism today.

✊ Here Where We Live Is Our Country: https://www.mollycrabapple.com/here-where-we-live-is-our-country

✊ Drawing Blood: https://www.mollycrabapple.com/drawing-blood

✊ Brothers of the Gun: https://www.mollycrabapple.com/brothers-of-the-gun

0:00-5:52 Why the Bund Matters Now

5:52-9:43 Jewish Self-Determination Without an Ethnostate

9:43-14:51 Why the Bund Rejected Zionism

14:51-20:45 Labor Organizing, Mutual Aid, and Revolution

20:45-23:11 Jewish Self-Defense Against Pogroms

23:11-26:06 The Bund’s Failure to Take Power

26:06-32:16 Were the Zionists Proven Right?

32:16-35:12 Why History Was Not Inevitable

35:12-38:05 Has Israel Made Jews Less Safe?

38:05-43:36 Why the Bund Resonates Today

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