[SPEAKER_02]: I got stuff for you.

[SPEAKER_02]: Holy moly.

[SPEAKER_02]: I need to get some snakes and release them around my house.

[SPEAKER_07]: But I love eat people.

[SPEAKER_07]: I love eating kids.

[SPEAKER_08]: These guys are the scientists of the supernatural.

[SPEAKER_08]: Lecturers leaving lessons for inquiring laymen.

[SPEAKER_08]: They are applying the scientific method to a world that baffles sides.

[SPEAKER_08]: They are the cryptids of the core.

[SPEAKER_06]: Every day, the European Earth.

[SPEAKER_06]: I know, right?

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm more convinced that you're a bit of a fail-ance.

[SPEAKER_08]: No.

[SPEAKER_08]: And it just, uh, I mean, it just, like, kept going on, and going on, and she goes, what, uh, these are idiots.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was laughing reading this, because I already knew how you would feel idiot.

[SPEAKER_02]: What's the story?

[SPEAKER_07]: It fits your balloon.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, this isn't a UFO, but he also has big black wings and red eyes.

[SPEAKER_07]: Um, Batman.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, mach man.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, mach man.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, everyone, I think we know it's sad.

[SPEAKER_00]: Clean water is, so say it all with me.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a sand bill crane.

[SPEAKER_07]: Would you try it?

[SPEAKER_07]: No, you wouldn't need it?

[SPEAKER_07]: No, why?

[SPEAKER_07]: Because they're probably toxic.

[SPEAKER_07]: There'd be a lot of poop in my face.

[SPEAKER_07]: and seeing a six foot alligator go swing into the air and slam into a tree.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, welcome back to physical five guys.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm in a great, powerful mystery.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I am Jay clone 61.

[SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, hopefully you guys are surviving the snow apocalypse.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's no apocalypse or the media apocalypse media.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah, it didn't, it's not coming yet.

[SPEAKER_02]: It ain't here yet.

[SPEAKER_02]: They keep saying it's coming and we're here and it's not here.

[SPEAKER_02]: Where is it?

[SPEAKER_07]: It's coming.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's what they said.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, we're recording this.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're technically we're recording this on a non-normal day.

[SPEAKER_07]: I've been very sick.

[SPEAKER_07]: Again, different sickness.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, and yeah, so we got to get up and got to get the hour with the sickness.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_07]: Wow, there he goes.

[SPEAKER_02]: There it is.

[SPEAKER_07]: Um, but yeah, so we're recording this on a separate day that we normally don't record on.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you're snowed in, hey, it's only like 500 hours or come to the corner for free, you can listen to.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_07]: And if you're feeling brave, I got Crimson Corn podcast, a Patreon page, and there's like another 300 something hours of all kinds of stuff in there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Some of that stuff's pretty off the walls off the walls, not even just one wall.

[SPEAKER_07]: All of them, all of them I was Connor was talking about you the other day.

[SPEAKER_07]: Me?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: About what?

[SPEAKER_07]: Some of the stuff you say on Patreon.

[SPEAKER_02]: And what is it, bad?

[SPEAKER_02]: He was pretending to be you.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what's that supposed to mean?

[SPEAKER_07]: And he's like, I just can't, does Jay actually think that I'm like, I can't tell half the time.

[SPEAKER_02]: What, what I actually think.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, no, I sometimes you grift.

[SPEAKER_07]: Rift like you, uh, you get on a gift or not a gift.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, what am I trying to say?

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm still sick brain.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's free.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's eight or it's negative like six outside right now.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, I think.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think everything I say is.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you get on a big bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do bits.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do bits sometime.

[SPEAKER_07]: But you'll just harp on something.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: For a half hour.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if I do that longer, probably is true then.

[SPEAKER_02]: Could be at probably true then.

[SPEAKER_07]: Just to just rail me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I do that too.

[SPEAKER_02]: But you got to play devil's advocate, you know.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're got more living UFO stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, we're going to, I think this is part four or three.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, living you a foe.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's 17 of of the UAP disclosure.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we're back.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're back.

[SPEAKER_02]: That would.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Plasmoids.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, three or four.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not living enough.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, come on.

[SPEAKER_02]: Get it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I got some living you a foe stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: The first thing I want to talk about is there's a photo going around.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's actually on our Facebook page right now.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: Sean Farley posted it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Sean posted a bunch of fun stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but he posted the photo.

[SPEAKER_07]: I cannot verify the validity of this photo.

[SPEAKER_07]: uh, but ancient whispers is the one that originally shared it.

[SPEAKER_07]: And they got a little blurb about it.

[SPEAKER_07]: But the photo shows what appears to be a Membroness, man to rate, shaped thing flying in like Demesosphere from the International Space Station.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: I remember seeing this now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_07]: just saying.

[SPEAKER_07]: I wish there was a book out there about this.

[SPEAKER_02]: If there's only some place.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, you could go to you could get on Amazon or something which I hate.

[SPEAKER_02]: I hate Amazon.

[SPEAKER_02]: I hate it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's the devil, but you could buy a cool book on there, I guess.

[SPEAKER_02]: Two technically.

[SPEAKER_02]: Two technically cool books.

[SPEAKER_02]: Which why don't we have a right in front of us right now?

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_07]: I just was interviewed about the book the other day.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, check in the description box in the links below.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can find the atmospheric creature book, what's it called again?

[SPEAKER_07]: I can't live in your foes, the ocean above our head.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, living your foes, the ocean above our head.

[SPEAKER_02]: On Amazon or in the leaks below, or your A to Z cryptism.

[SPEAKER_02]: Your first cryptosuology book.

[SPEAKER_07]: Which speaking of which, uh, Jeb, the illustrator for that book.

[SPEAKER_07]: And me, I've started work on the second kids book.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, which is going to be for not like older kids, but for like, I guess my kind of thought is like 10 year olds, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Give them a little bit more information in the first one.

[SPEAKER_07]: The first one was for like 4 to 10.

[SPEAKER_07]: This one is like, it's not going to be anything scarier than it, but it's just going to have a little bit more information.

[SPEAKER_07]: It because that was not a complaint from the first book, but something people asked for from the first 80s book is they wish that it just there was a version that had a little bit more information.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like if anyone out there is a boulder, you know, this is how I can compare it.

[SPEAKER_02]: The first book was just entry level bowling ball, you know, now we're into the mid performance bowling ball stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: So once the after this book, the next one's going to be high performance for real oily lanes book.

[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, that's just a comparison.

[SPEAKER_07]: Have I done a thinner ground at bowling, lean with that effect?

[SPEAKER_02]: Don't vinegar.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, let's just get rid of the oil.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's been, how's vinegar and oil?

[SPEAKER_07]: They don't like each other.

[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was water and oil.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, the water and the little mix.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hmm, unless you emulsify them.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you are magna and I am steel.

[SPEAKER_07]: Anyways, so what ancient whisper says about the photo is astronauts aboard NASA's space station recently captured footage of an identified flying object.

[SPEAKER_07]: Moving across an orbital environment.

[SPEAKER_07]: The object appears as a bright reflective shape against the backdrop of Earth, sparking intrigue and speculation about its origins.

[SPEAKER_07]: So basically, they thought it was space debris or maybe even a satellite, which is a big worry, because even like garbage that it's an orbit is categorized monitored because right, if they're launching anything, whether you believe we're going to space or not, that's a different thing, but even the proper atmospheric studies and stuff like that, if you're putting more satellites up, like you need to know where everything's orbit is.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't want to hit pop one of the balloons up there.

[SPEAKER_07]: That or have it run into you.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: The balloons will get caught up in your return by.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: So they were first.

[SPEAKER_07]: They were like, Oh, you know, that's a whatever it is is fairly large.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it's not mapped, which is scary.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, like see their pigeons.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Moon pigeons, which shows her real.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's a rocks that are flying around the moon at high velocity.

[SPEAKER_02]: That if it hits you.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're only like, some of them are only like 20 feet above the ground.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's, yeah, which is, if that's real all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: So I've watched them and it tells us to open stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's, I don't know what they are.

[SPEAKER_07]: You can try it ever.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what they are, but let's say you were on the moon.

[SPEAKER_07]: And just there's a rock comes whizzing around.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like this is orbiting.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it happens to just be orbiting like 10 feet off the ground.

[SPEAKER_02]: Low altitude.

[SPEAKER_07]: So you're like every hill you're walking up, you're like, please don't be this.

[SPEAKER_07]: This isn't the one where it clocks me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's flying by your head.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, so yeah, they thought it was man made to breathe, but unlike no man made objects in orbit, it had movement, but that's was the weird thing is it looked like it was like a fluttering is almost how they were describing it, which there's, you know, in that low of atmosphere, that wouldn't be normally as possible, but there's still in atmosphere, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: But we're talking, you know, in the edge of the Mazda sphere and, you know, getting up into space and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it's way up there.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, this is when the atmosphere is getting very, very, very thin.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, I still remember me in a kid like 12 13 years old and see an on like, uh, what was that channel?

[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't, uh, discovery channel, but it was like, uh, it was similar.

[SPEAKER_02]: Discovery kids?

[SPEAKER_02]: No, it wasn't discovery.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, uh, [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm, yeah, what are they actually at its channel?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like one of those yeah, it had like how it's made and all that stuff on it like it's like the learning like not TLC.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know what you mean.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I can't remember it's on the tip of my tongue.

[SPEAKER_07]: Do it channel or something like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't remember.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I remember I was just on on there.

[SPEAKER_02]: There was a show and they were I'm telling you they had pictures and they talked about these uh, man array like things and they were.

[SPEAKER_02]: coming in from space like flying in from space and they act like way in the upper upper atmosphere and they had like multiple on camera.

[SPEAKER_02]: I remember seeing this on that show.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's one thought and then the original author of the first living UFO book in 1971 version of that was his theory.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is that they're coming from space?

[SPEAKER_07]: Is it there like an interstellar travelers like whales essentially?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And how whales do like in the jet streams is pull off an islands and sand bars and some relax.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that's kind of what they're using our upper atmosphere for is, you know, a stopping point where who knows if they're biologically native to earth or not.

[SPEAKER_07]: And if they're plasma, it's which we'll get back to the plasma document here in a little bit.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: But if there are plasmoids, then that's a whole extra step where the vacuum or space, if it is a vacuum, which is not for this episode, but doesn't matter then, right, you know, those kind of limits on biology of carbon-based biology, don't apply to a living plasmoid.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, so what they could still need to migrate and rest and re accumulate energies and, you know, all that kind of stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: So that could be way like you're saying watching things come into upper orbit.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And relax for a bit feeding off the earth's electromagnetic field could be yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Which by the way, the last two nights, three nights, I have not slept at all and did you see why?

[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't know the earth, the sun produced a big, you know, big flare.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and it was one of the first ones and a while to break through the electromagnetic field.

[SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of people weren't sleeping and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it was a freaking out.

[SPEAKER_07]: I've seen a video of pigs, like thousands of pigs, losing their mind.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh my gosh, and it's fine.

[SPEAKER_07]: It goes away, you know, it just is like we were powered off of electromagnetic stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: So you get disturbed by the same a fast man.

[SPEAKER_02]: That just means I don't know that that could be I don't know that could be a played with her toy with her.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, some could kill us in any second.

[SPEAKER_07]: I wanted to.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the sun.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's, but I'm saying artificially we could great weapons and stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: We have weapons like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: We have that to people.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's called a defibrillator.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what, that's shock your heart.

[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, I mean, it's, we have electrical weapons.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm at the guard of these masses.

[SPEAKER_02]: Stereo and mass, not hypnosis, but insomnia.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_07]: Call power plants and steel mills as bad.

[SPEAKER_07]: What is that, uh, the winds, the winds, the winds, Winds are home.

[SPEAKER_07]: Winds are Canada.

[SPEAKER_07]: Canada.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's the American steel mill that's driving this town crazy.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I didn't know about this.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's in Michigan.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, well, right across the.

[SPEAKER_02]: What?

[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, the steel mills in Michigan.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they have it on the edge of the border.

[SPEAKER_02]: So just driving the people on Windsor crazy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, really.

[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know this.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's a future episode.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and for a sound in the other reason they figured out because they paid billions and amount of billions millions of dollars to try to discover nobody could figure it out.

[SPEAKER_07]: The line shut down and everybody is like the sound stopped.

[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone just like and chilled out.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, huh Well, this is we're describing the object as maintaining a constant trajectory while occasionally changing shapes and orientation Which was defined conservation or sorry conservative physics if it was an inanimate object [SPEAKER_07]: So this is just a piece of space debris, trash, a piece of a space shuttle, you know, even a piece of an old probe or something like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's maintaining a concert trajectory, even though it's changing shape and form.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: So this would be like, how we kind of describe the flapping.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: Or the flapping isn't really a form of locomotion, it's more of a form of steering.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Or it's something that we don't even have described [SPEAKER_07]: I'm all over the place today.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's been rough week.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's been a really rough week.

[SPEAKER_02]: Find the word.

[SPEAKER_02]: Find the word.

[SPEAKER_07]: Normal theories of physics.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Conventional.

[SPEAKER_02]: Conventional.

[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_07]: Conventional physics.

[SPEAKER_07]: It has reflective surface in the way it caught sunlight made it appear luminous against the dark expanses of space.

[SPEAKER_07]: Such things align with the, you know, normal UAP sightings reported over the decades.

[SPEAKER_07]: Demonstrating that there's mysterious objects that can appear beyond Earth atmosphere.

[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, so I highly advise.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'll try to put the link for the photo in here.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's just a big man, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: And you know, just a man, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: That picture, I think if you guys [SPEAKER_02]: don't follow our Facebook page yet.

[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, what do you do when?

[SPEAKER_02]: Second of all, yeah, you can get on there and see that picture because that was all over.

[SPEAKER_02]: I remember when Sean posted that, seeing that picture.

[SPEAKER_02]: But again, you can find any information about these creatures in the book and the link below.

[SPEAKER_02]: And just get, if you, if you have an, like, interest in atmospheric creatures, that's a perfect intro.

[SPEAKER_02]: And when you're done with the book, [SPEAKER_02]: uh...

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the building blocks the foundation for this subject in this topic so we can get into all these different uh...

types and different i don't know i want to say like models like different models of creatures you know yeah i think it's called specular biology it's good work right we're guessing what we're what we're having here is we are seeing things [SPEAKER_07]: It have common witness descriptions and this new NASA study with all these universities and everything like that, which I'll try to make sure I put the link again below.

[SPEAKER_07]: But if not, it's on Plasmoids Part 2.

[SPEAKER_07]: Atlas came into the studio.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you like big feet?

[SPEAKER_07]: Do you like, do you like big feet?

[SPEAKER_05]: Do you like big feet?

[SPEAKER_07]: Dog man blue.

[SPEAKER_05]: Dog man blue.

[SPEAKER_07]: Dog man blue.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's senior pinch.

[SPEAKER_05]: Gum.

[SPEAKER_07]: No.

[SPEAKER_07]: You're, you'll be able to do episode soon.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_07]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_07]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_07]: Bye, baby.

[SPEAKER_05]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what he was saying.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what he was saying.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I don't know, I'll pay for it later.

[SPEAKER_07]: Gosh, she's a monster.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's the only real monster.

[SPEAKER_02]: Plasmaids.

[SPEAKER_07]: Plasmaids.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so you ready for this?

[SPEAKER_07]: Plasmaids, more plasmaids.

[SPEAKER_07]: You remember anything we've talked about with the previous [SPEAKER_07]: The links, I'll try to put the photo link in this, and we'll try to remember to put the document links that you can follow along.

[SPEAKER_07]: Remember, I didn't know this is a plasma-oid documentary.

[SPEAKER_07]: On a day of finding a Muslim, extra, extra life.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's this giant organization.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to read everybody's names again.

[SPEAKER_07]: But it's NASA and several dozen universities and institutions and stuff, a meeting that plasma seems to be alive, and it seems to take organic shapes similar to that of oceananic animals.

[SPEAKER_07]: and they've been looking into the international space station and all this stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_02]: Odd.

[SPEAKER_02]: Very odd.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have confirmed articles where we read where the military has planes and vehicles that can fly that can chain and shape and turn into like organic, shaped objects and morph and manipulate, um, what do you talk about?

[SPEAKER_02]: Do you?

[SPEAKER_02]: I remember that paper we talked about, uh, [SPEAKER_02]: I think so article from I think was 20.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've got 17 or something that they talked about those vehicles or the airplanes that they got that are shape shifting basically like the scan of them.

[SPEAKER_02]: They can shape and change shape into different well different forms basically to perform different maneuvers.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but it was just a, it was a small little article of just disclosure about it, uh, but from like 2017, but when we're seeing stuff like this and people are witness in some of the stuff, I always, you know, that is being part of the equation because 100% like we talked about UFOs, they're not all organic, but we are saying a small sliver them all we speculate are, and I even think some of the things we speculate as being organic creatures [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we talked about that with technology planes.

[SPEAKER_07]: Which that's one we differ on.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think that either they're harnessing them or that they are or lowering them in like we talked about the Malaysian fight flight.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Where I kind of wonder if they have that ability to kind of like kick a beehive or throw a beehive at you.

[SPEAKER_07]: Where traditionally they're not really controlling the bees.

[SPEAKER_07]: But you know, if you throw a beehive at somebody, the bees are going to be mad.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Whoever they see, they don't care.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like the Malaysian flight thing, if those were plasma [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And you know, the three that we're circling it and the infrared spectrum.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then they, you know, basically disappeared it, yeah, which if we talked about the previous episode, the vaporization, the vaporizing ability of plasma, if they struck an aircraft at speed, you wouldn't even see it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right, it was it was floating in a no fast.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it would, you know, it'd be it would be gone.

[SPEAKER_07]: And so let's say that there were, and I'm not saying which military would have done it or which group would have done it or whatever.

[SPEAKER_07]: But let's say there is a way we know about these creatures, I don't know, a high level like US military, China, Russia, you know, these major players in the world that know about these things that hoard intelligence.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And they know let's say if you put a court's crystal energized on a plane, they don't like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, it's so they'll attack it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And are you know, whatever, whatever, a device, you know, that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like a thumper for way or for sharks and stuff like that, like you can lure them or repellum.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: What?

[SPEAKER_07]: And I kind of wonder if that's maybe some of the black box stuff with planes now.

[SPEAKER_07]: I just was thinking about that if there are two repel these things.

[SPEAKER_07]: If we kind of knew about this, at the turning when we started getting up in the troposphere, like higher and higher, yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: If we started running into creatures, plasma and grimmlins, you know, think about grimmlins.

[SPEAKER_07]: They were talking that they would just show up on the wing of plane and technology would start, stop our start failing.

[SPEAKER_02]: You mean when they look out on the plane on the wing?

[SPEAKER_02]: What's that for?

[SPEAKER_02]: What was that?

[SPEAKER_07]: There was a, oh, no, it's, it's, it's a, uh, uh, a, uh, Kirk, it's on the wing where he's a psychotic, they're psychotic patient.

[SPEAKER_07]: He just got out and they think he's having another break in.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there really is something out there at the end.

[SPEAKER_07]: The use of your mouth.

[SPEAKER_07]: You can see the scratches on the wing.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, is that?

[SPEAKER_07]: That's, uh, the twilight zone twilight zone.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all over the place remember to do it or me too.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's what's not our normal because they knew he was They knew he was a mental patient right exactly.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm a staffed But yeah, so even some of the Greenland stuff in that kind of thing because they didn't describe as like the modern day little Greenland's all the time [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, some of them describe it almost not like angels like biblical angels, but like that kind of thing where it's hard, you know, it's you're seeing something that's not normal biology, so it's very very hard to describe.

[SPEAKER_07]: So I kind of wonder if the early like WWII and stuff like that when they're having it, and then even in the Vietnam with the food fighters and, you know, these balls of energy that are firing back, plasma at them, you know, later on we figured out that, yeah, if you put this in a plane, [SPEAKER_07]: You know, they can't come and then maybe there's even another device that attracts them.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then your your lines and stuff like that, putting all the aluminum in the sky, one of that's like a fence.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_07]: Or you're what do they call them?

[SPEAKER_07]: Gim trails come to come trails are sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's use what the government calls them.

[SPEAKER_02]: Atmospheric aerosol injections not came trails people.

[SPEAKER_02]: You're crazy if you think that the government calls him upper atmospheric aerosol injections.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's better.

[SPEAKER_02]: Gosh.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, what if it's for our own safety?

[SPEAKER_07]: So plasmoids don't crash into the earth and just explode us.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, that's fine.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just as long as those crazy conspiracy theorists out there, just understand that came trails aren't real.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're upper, atmospheric, aerosol, and jackshins.

[SPEAKER_07]: So I'll read the last paragraph we left off on, and then I'll start into the new stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: All right, ready?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's important to avoid AMP and throw permorphizing, which is meaning putting like human thoughts and emotions onto something.

[SPEAKER_07]: what may purely be electromagnetic push and pull attraction repulsion.

[SPEAKER_07]: And this is talking about them, you know, mingling with each other flying around, merging, it seemed to be reproducing, flying together, all that, you know?

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: Whether Anthropomorphizing is, is that just push and pull electromagnetic attraction?

[SPEAKER_07]: Even though it looks like them swimming right now and stuff like that, or is it, you know, it's real, you got to step back and say that it's probably not real [SPEAKER_07]: This is, before I continue reading, there's like little magnet pets you can buy and stuff like that, which is a great example of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like feral, feral pets are feral, feral, feral, feral, feral, feral, feral, feral, feral is like the name of the company.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah [SPEAKER_07]: moving around and eating and pooping and all that at the end, uh, you would think it's that.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, that's what they're kind of talking about here is we got to really look at it first to see if it's just because it kind of looks like they're alive.

[SPEAKER_02]: doesn't mean they are.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: So, and then it's push pull repulsion, which exposed to highly charged environments and surrounding the plasma by opposite or similar or changing electrical charges, so that we'll be talked about the thunderstorms, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of these guys seen around thunderstorms and all that, which is just high amounts of energy.

[SPEAKER_07]: However, according to Alvon, which is one of the researchers, the plasma contains cellular [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, let me read that again, sell your sell it now.

[SPEAKER_07]: I can't ask you sell your regular membranes I'm sell membrane.

[SPEAKER_07]: It has a sell membrane sell walls where plasma has a nucleus that has been repeatedly observed in which Continues are contains a glowing spheres when they have pictures in this they have this and this is in this article figure 1 6 7 10 29 and 34 36 [SPEAKER_07]: They have organelles in nuclei, so that like actual cells.

[SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, which, you know, is it that they are carbon-based.

[SPEAKER_07]: But this would point back that they were like in the book we talked about, that these could be all iPhones that were spirited into the Uprattonosphere long, long ago.

[SPEAKER_07]: So they have a real basal common ancestor with like jellyfish and that kind of stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: bilateral symmetries, they're common.

[SPEAKER_07]: And do you remember the name?

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's like bilateral by Latteria.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, bilateral.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about the metasua game.

[SPEAKER_07]: Let us do I, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Check it out online if you haven't seen our record.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I get one right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's tough.

[SPEAKER_07]: Um, but so it, you know, and it's probably even before that to be fair.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're talking like corals and, you know, way, way before that step.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was just trying to flex some and it made me be like back with you carry outic cells.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, we're talking, angel, angel stuff where it's that long ago.

[SPEAKER_07]: So where it's, it's been separated from the main stem of the tree.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to so long get it looks so alien until like they're talking about when you catch it in a bottle and you can look at it for just a second.

[SPEAKER_07]: You can see the the fingerprints, the similarities.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: You see the cell membrane.

[SPEAKER_07]: You see what looks like a new killist and you see what looks like organelles.

[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember Mark's pictures of the orbs?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they look like they have organelles in them.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they talked about that.

[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like a little, which marks Mark the Ripper, the Ripper as you've heard on, I have to be ever been on our show.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think so.

[UNKNOWN]: Why is he not?

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's ever loved you, Mark.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, vision.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, both, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: But he had awesome pictures of Orbs from the Mystery Shack.

[SPEAKER_02]: Mystery Shack, or whatever, it's called somewhere up in Montana, and our mystery spot.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's Michigan.

[SPEAKER_02]: Michigan's mystery.

[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways.

[SPEAKER_02]: where I like this gravitational anomalies and all that fun stuff there.

[SPEAKER_02]: I check it out if you've never been there if you're in the area go check it out but he had pictures there and there there was orbs in the pictures I mean it was odd looking but they were clear and you he zoomed in on him and yeah it looked like a almost look like a [SPEAKER_02]: I think if it like an electron, you know, kind of model, like, or add this thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then something was like, it look like could have been, you know, orbiting around it.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it looked like that center bit was like, ads, like you said stuff in it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, they look like a pirate size.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, there you go.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, they did.

[SPEAKER_07]: They look like big pirate size.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, same color and everything.

[SPEAKER_02]: Neon and green.

[SPEAKER_07]: Or inspired by our true largest single-celled organism.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you can maybe know they're like softball size.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can learn about all about them on freaky fauna Friday, just really once.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or maybe one of the mid ones, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not the episode with mid, I tell you that much.

[SPEAKER_07]: a long time ago.

[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, so they have what appears to be biological, you know, parts of life.

[SPEAKER_07]: They also speculate that these internal spheres could contain gag kiddica, nuclear networks, uh, cellular, double-strand DNA, plasmids that have the ability to replicate in self-clone.

[SPEAKER_07]: So, what?

[SPEAKER_02]: Plasmids, replicating self-clone, yeah?

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you're saying [SPEAKER_02]: part of me could be.

[SPEAKER_07]: But it's saying that these these things appear to have this so this not it may not be splitting off it may be actual reproduction.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: Where that they could mean between sexual and self-cloning which there's a lot of basal organisms that do that and basal everybody does not mean simple basal means ancient.

[SPEAKER_02]: earlier on the tree of life.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, like sponges are not simple organisms, but they've been around forever jellyfish are not simple organisms, but they're a clay of life has been around forever.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, but jellyfish are incredibly complex.

[SPEAKER_07]: We don't know nearly as much as fungus is another great example.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And man awards aren't jellyfish.

[SPEAKER_02]: And man or aren't jellyfish.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're not they're cyanophores.

[SPEAKER_07]: Close related, but not not jellyfish.

[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, so they may have DNA knowledge based on laboratory experiments, a number of scientists have proposed that this, the dusty plasmus may have crystalline RNA slash DNA helix structures that may represent a non biological form of life and or pre-life.

[SPEAKER_07]: So keep my most of the stuff in the tabbing and labs.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're talking like hundreds of thousands of seconds.

[SPEAKER_07]: Mill of seconds.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, we're getting snapshots because this stuff, if anybody's ever done what you don't do, I did a little slower microwave.

[SPEAKER_07]: I like the great experiment and caught plasma in a glass jar, and everything like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't stay contained very long.

[SPEAKER_07]: No.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it's highly energetic and it's highly dangerous.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it makes it loud.

[SPEAKER_07]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sound in your microwave.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it can even be radioactive when it's running into materials.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like we talked about that with glass in the last previous episodes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're plasmoids when they run into glass.

[SPEAKER_07]: They pass through.

[SPEAKER_07]: They can really radiate the glass.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, so there's that kind of stuff too.

[SPEAKER_07]: So it can be very dangerous.

[SPEAKER_07]: So don't do it.

[SPEAKER_07]: But one of the things when they're doing this, they are getting these snapshots.

[SPEAKER_07]: So they're seeing stuff that looks like nucleus.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're seeing stuff that looks like nucleotides.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're seeing stuff that looks like DNA.

[SPEAKER_07]: Life as we know it.

[SPEAKER_07]: That has crystalline.

[SPEAKER_07]: It could either be RNA DNA.

[SPEAKER_07]: They don't know, you know, it's hard to tell.

[SPEAKER_07]: And like biologists and we've talked about this in the show a lot, biologists don't agree like there's no one thing that's true [SPEAKER_07]: about things.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, like dinosaurs, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: There are people that argue still to this day.

[SPEAKER_07]: What certain things look like?

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, we're dealing with fractary fossils.

[SPEAKER_07]: So just for that.

[SPEAKER_07]: And even with like viruses or good example, they move, they replicate, even though they have to use a, they have to use a DNA cell.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: They replicate, but they, they seem to live and die.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, this stuff, but have like somebody else just don't throw them alive because of an ancient idea that one of the steps of being alive is being able to self-replicate.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: So they don't self-replicate.

[SPEAKER_07]: They need an outside host.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they're almost like parasitic.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_07]: But there are another step past parasitic because they are RNA.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: They need DNA.

[SPEAKER_07]: But who's to say that's not a split off from shoot.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, 80 billion years ago or whatever their actual time scale is.

[SPEAKER_02]: where they chose a different, what are found a different way to reproduce.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it's been a split off.

[SPEAKER_07]: They, we had both at the light of the tree of life.

[SPEAKER_07]: I had both at one time, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it just was too much.

[SPEAKER_07]: So they kept this and they kept this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine like giant versions like our size viruses.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll frighten you that would be.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe plasmoids, but are they just, oh, oh no, you're just saying there they could be viruses.

[SPEAKER_07]: They could be, that whatever that tree of life is.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because if you look at viruses on her microscopes and stuff like that, people have called them little machines.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's not, yeah, necessarily true, like the artists, the pictures of them.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's a much more crystalline mechanical than they actually are, but they, they are more like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: And they're very odd when you're talking about conventional carbon-based human life, like archery of life, but they still have a lot of visible markers.

[SPEAKER_07]: So that's kind of what we're getting with this plasmaist stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: Are they RNA DNA?

[SPEAKER_07]: Are they a related?

[SPEAKER_07]: Are they space-faring things?

[SPEAKER_07]: Are they a spawn of the devil?

[SPEAKER_07]: There could be devil juice.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there you go, devil juice, but just leak out, bubble out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's like Willy Wonka's, uh, that stuff you drank and you float.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that's why I have loads of other people up to the fans.

[SPEAKER_07]: You become a devil juice.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, devil juice.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's like my strike juice at the bull and alley.

[SPEAKER_07]: All right, ready for the new stuff?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: So once again, you please listen to the previous two, but we're just reading this word for word and I'm guessing that we're on page 4 out of 91, oh my gosh.

[SPEAKER_07]: So before we continue on, let's just talk about that sentence.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're either attracted to or produced by, and some of this is because a lot of that evidence NASA and some of these organizations have collected have been around thunder lightning storms.

[SPEAKER_07]: I personally lean towards more that they are either feeding upon this.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, because if you look at even some in the 1940s and 50s, there are some astrobiologists to people that speculated life on other plants that we knew about our solar system.

[SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_07]: They thought that there was life on get there could be life on gas giants, for example, Jupiter.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, they'd feed off a lightning, purely because even Earth, [SPEAKER_07]: but systems with a lot of atmosphere produce a lot of static electricity and it equivalates eventually the things like lightning storms you know these giant discharges just giant discharges which humans have talked about forever the problem why we have a lot of trouble capturing it because I've I've talked about that when I was a little kid and now doing some research and stuff like that the big problem with it is it's so much energy at one time right that it's really hard to capture with any like amount you need a really big bust up [SPEAKER_07]: You need, I mean, it's really hard.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then lightning moves, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And there's a couple places on the planet you could do this, though, there's at one spot.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's in the corner of Brazil where like 360 days a year, there's lightning storms.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: I was just weird, like just turning point of the ocean where it just causes on the coastline just constant lightning strikes.

[SPEAKER_02]: See now, if we were a truly advanced civilization, it truly advanced beings, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: Innovation.

[SPEAKER_02]: We would be harnessing that area right there, and for the world.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's hard.

[SPEAKER_07]: And like I said, there is a lot of nuances with that, that it's, it blows.

[SPEAKER_07]: I like destroys everything and hits.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: So much energy.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're talking the first off the temperature.

[SPEAKER_07]: But we find out if we were so advanced, you know, we'd fight away.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I'm not saying that the people aren't working on it.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just saying right now, lightning capture stuff does work.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, we have like lightning rods on our houses.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: This house still has one.

[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of houses in Ada still has still have them.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: where we figured out how to bypass it, but the holding it is the hard part.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, where you need it, because it's so much energy and so much temperature all at once.

[SPEAKER_07]: So a lot of the astrobiologists thought, was it would basically have these long tendrils?

[SPEAKER_07]: And it would slow feed, essentially, off of the static electricity around thunderstorms.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: Not the direct lightning strikes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.

[SPEAKER_07]: Because they would probably deal with the same problems that we would.

[SPEAKER_07]: That it's just so much energy at one time.

[SPEAKER_07]: The first of capturing any meaningful amount of it is really hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm saying off of these damaging systems.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's for I, everything.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you were a biologic that's trying to harness this electricity, you may be doing the same and if they're plasma that's, you know, that's probably exception.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's different, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: But I think that they're probably more or less beating off it rather than being created by it.

[SPEAKER_07]: But I don't know, it's, you know, that's ideas.

[SPEAKER_07]: It has been hypothesized that dusty plasma in the thermosphere may have been incorporated all the necessary elements for synthesis of RNA leading it to DNA and thus being forms of life.

[SPEAKER_07]: although what they're saying here that once some of these groups are theorizing that this high energy environment with a constant electrical storms and plasma dusty plasma we talked about earlier as you know, amino acids and cellular membranes and all this stuff is basically hyper evolving because of this environment it's in.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it's an extreme a file.

[SPEAKER_07]: That it's not quite an extreme a file.

[SPEAKER_07]: or like Frankenstein dead material not dead in the materials in the life.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's probably the best way to look at it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that how, uh, kind of we describe sometimes life being created in the great ether.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, from nothing.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, everything for first it was darkness.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the big boom.

[SPEAKER_02]: Or a big bang.

[SPEAKER_02]: What?

[SPEAKER_07]: I believe the guy created the universe.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's not a, that's not a mystery to anybody here.

[SPEAKER_07]: But I do think when he said that there'd be light, I do think it was right.

[SPEAKER_07]: So we're quite a big boom.

[SPEAKER_02]: Where did that originate though, start from let there be like the darkness and nothingness, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: So up.

[SPEAKER_02]: Separate the light and dark.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Up in space, you know, so what if this is where you know in the raining frog, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: This is where life if maybe created maybe this is the area where God you were suddenly gobbling there for just a second.

[SPEAKER_07]: Gobbling gobbling Jeff gobbling.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh Oh, oh, you're getting into his cage a little bit and then life I can't do it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how he does it [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you must go faster must go faster.

[SPEAKER_02]: What's just how we really talk?

[SPEAKER_02]: I know he's he's what's his name now Jeff Goldblatt.

[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff Goldblatt.

[SPEAKER_02]: He just said it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I just blanked though.

[SPEAKER_02]: He uh He's a very odd man, but anyways, but no, I mean Really though like what they're describing it sounds like [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of life how life's created sometimes like churches out of nothingness, which yeah, so raining frogs You know, that's one example.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's a whole bunch of examples lightning is like striking frogs and do exist Well, maybe not well, yeah, in a sense.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just saying up in the atmosphere maybe that's where like that That's where creation can happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think that's happening.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's more Because they're talking about plasmoids in particular living plasmoids [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, I think I don't think any form of life can be created this way.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think it has to be highly energetic life because I think a fraud would just like, what I mean, the high energies is what spawns these things.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's how it spawned.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just boom.

[SPEAKER_07]: Stay in the Miller in Harold, Julie in their famous experiment, doesn't need to produce life, expose the mixture of gases and elements, and you continue this electrical spark-simulating lightning and produced organic chemicals in 33 different amino acids.

[SPEAKER_07]: including the necessary and including 11 of those necessary to create proteins required by all living things.

[SPEAKER_07]: This is some of the promotional super experiments from a long ago.

[SPEAKER_07]: If I can be created via insertions between lightning and an enclosed container, but with the necessary elements, it can be predicted that every world with a gaseous atmosphere and thunder clouds could be inhabited by plasmus.

[SPEAKER_07]: and that these dusty plasmus spawn life on innumerable earth-like planets, billions of years older than earth.

[SPEAKER_07]: Life that may have evolved.

[SPEAKER_07]: Thus, some UAPs may be spacecrafts from other worlds.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_07]: See, spawns life.

[SPEAKER_02]: Frogs they're talking about.

[SPEAKER_07]: This is a real scientific article.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just like what I just said.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know all this it literally sounds like you're like a science fiction.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know just that paper.

[SPEAKER_07]: Plasma's any which I mean is probably right.

[SPEAKER_07]: I just talked about Jupiter and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like you're getting rid of a lot of the Goldilocks zone theories.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Where you know, it's only X amount of planets could ever actually reduce life.

[SPEAKER_07]: Because classmates don't care about the cold, the heat.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: They need a thick atmosphere.

[SPEAKER_02]: It does kind of throw that out, doesn't it?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they need a thick atmosphere with electricity.

[SPEAKER_07]: What should you look at?

[SPEAKER_07]: The planets in our solar system, for example, conventionally, even if you count Pluto, so if we have nine planets, I'm gonna say seven or six of them, fit that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, the all-one that doesn't is probably Mercury.

[SPEAKER_07]: Plars.

[SPEAKER_07]: Venus has a pretty thick atmosphere.

[SPEAKER_07]: Mars has a pretty thin atmosphere.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then Pluto, I'd throw those three out.

[SPEAKER_07]: Mercury Mars and Pluto Mercury Mars Pluto.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Mars is borderline.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't it's not an act of weather systems anymore For what the alien at least what they say.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean we can watch it and stuff like that That's one of the ones that we can actually see.

[SPEAKER_07]: I guess what yeah, I still I don't you don't I don't still know why you don't trust real nice I don't trust you're be wise.

[SPEAKER_02]: I do trust my eyes.

[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't believe what I'm seeing is what they're telling us is what I'm seeing I don't see no dead planet with I don't know [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it had waterways 200 years ago.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they say.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, something to say.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they say.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I believe it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, they can show me a zoom didn't picture of it on their telescope, but doesn't mean I wouldn't manipulate it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I can zoom in on a picture on that someone took on the internet.

[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, and find anything I want.

[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, it gets for the like that gotylocks though.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then so one of the thoughts is maybe that if these things are intelligent, [SPEAKER_07]: that they know that right.

[SPEAKER_07]: So that's why they're coming in and out of atmosphere.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's why they're traveling in between the planets.

[SPEAKER_07]: Is it it's not one like our species isn't our species.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're all would be one species one group of things traveling in.

[SPEAKER_07]: So in our community, they're intermingling.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: So some of the, I mean, it could be as far as, you know, from Beetlejuice to star, you know, plants around that or our own solar system, like these guys are actually coming from Jupiter coming from Venus, right.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, coming from these planets and hanging out with Earth's Earth's versions or, you know, vice versa.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's where octopus came from.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that's where octopus came from.

[SPEAKER_07]: Let's, let's pay tribute.

[SPEAKER_02]: What, which planet?

[SPEAKER_02]: They come from Neptune.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Neptune.

[SPEAKER_07]: Neptune.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if life already bread that.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if life can be created via these intersections in lightning and closed containing the necessary elements can be predicted that, you know, any base of any planet.

[SPEAKER_07]: So some of these UAPs may be spacecraft from other world.

[SPEAKER_07]: Isn't that crazy?

[SPEAKER_02]: This is a real like, yeah, maybe.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like I'm I'm also kind of torn to wouldn't I'm not saying right I'm not saying wrong I'm just saying how far have we come that to where there's NASA has a name on this right.

[SPEAKER_07]: And once again, everybody, this is 91 paper.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's like a dozen and a half authors on this.

[SPEAKER_07]: Some of these theories go away, which not everybody in this paper agrees with the every theory in this paper.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's just a big group effort.

[SPEAKER_07]: So this is a scientific dissertation about UAPs with the Plasmoid side of things.

[SPEAKER_02]: So and we're only four pages in and to me it seems like there's it's there's a lot of mixed bag in this, too.

[SPEAKER_02]: This whole thing as far as being truthful like actual truth and then mixed with other misinformation.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't even say misinformation necessarily.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think there's once again, let's say there's 20 authors, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, 20 theories.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, right, right.

[SPEAKER_07]: So there's contradictions in it, which is going to be, but this group of people, men and women sat down and wrote this and just trying to get ideas out there, which is good.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, which is this is, I'm happy for this.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm happy that this is out here.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm happy that NASA's amitting some of these photos and videos that we've talked about for the last five years are real, that they're like, uh, it's not real.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, the UAP, they are.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the NASA [SPEAKER_07]: which is happening which you could say whatever.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if it's just because like when we talk about like the Russian invasion of the jellyfish and stuff like that's say those are plasmas and you didn't know in the 60s that those are plasmas.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: What do you mean how do you handle this?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Do you just not tell anybody because you can't do anything about it?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's nothing you can do.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like, we just got out of World War I, right, you know, so a horrible world that a war that devastated the world for economic turmoil countries, you know, some country still have never recovered right when right into the cold war, which is just a fear mongering from since my I mean since almost we were kids, yeah, yeah, just about right up to it.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, my dad was talking about like, yeah, they told you know, new we'd hide in our desk and then he's like, talk about, they about why wouldn't do nothing.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's a nuke and then just it burnt people's shadows into concrete.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that crazy though, thinking back, like, even then people weren't like questioning the narratives of what they're told.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, they were little kids, but no, I know.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, the teachers that anyone could have said, like, wait a minute, like, this, hey, guys, this won't work.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, I think, well, I think why they did that is to make everybody feel [SPEAKER_07]: What's that, like, like, there's something you can do.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, God, shit.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I don't think it was, I don't think anybody, I don't think the teachers believe that was going to work.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think they were just like, if we give the kids something to focus on and do, they won't be panic the last 30 seconds before they're turned to dust.

[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think it was all just a big fear mongering can't keep you in the fear.

[SPEAKER_02]: But so you do it now.

[SPEAKER_02]: This still happens every now and that's controllable for correct correct.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, this would have been uncontrollable for.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, whole different whole.

[SPEAKER_07]: So is that why they took so long to even talk about it or admit that they're real or even maybe they didn't fully know what they were, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, there's either that or it's just, uh, if they do know what it is, they, and they're trying to slow roll it out in ways to, for fear purposes, so they can still use this to scare people into thinking what they could be.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think it'll personally, I think it'll be the opposite, but I don't know.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think this fall still into my category of the kill the UFO movement.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it could kill it though, but I'm just saying if whatever these plasma points are, if they are just natural beings, or if it's something that we can kind of manipulate and control.

[SPEAKER_07]: And we are, and you've got to their intelligence and their psychedelic properties yet.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh.

[SPEAKER_07]: Which is a whole dozen pages on their psychedelic properties.

[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like these things, when you get close to them, they mess with you.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I have theories before you can get to it, where I kind of think some of the alien abduction stuff may be these guys, they talked about Betty and Barney Hill with the psychedelic spores.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: But it may be energies.

[SPEAKER_07]: that manipulate those the yeah the date there may be they may be intelligent enough to communicate with you that way right so like the grades right you can say whatever you want about the grades and i think i don't think they're good but uh that's the devil's advocate advocate for a second they're roughly humanoid right they're best they're bi-meatle yeah you know smoothed over no hair no noses no belly button mouth belly buttons nipples not none of that right [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, so what if that's these things way of trying to trying to communicate with us in some way?

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yes, it's not not all of the great abduction.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just saying I know, but like how we talk about what the thing in the mushrooms, right, right, right, right where they're just picking a face and that's why the talking like when they're talking, they're not moving their mouth.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: They are energy.

[SPEAKER_03]: My babies.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: So they know that you won't like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: So here's trying to [SPEAKER_02]: Oh gosh and it turns out it's even scarier.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah, they're like, ah, this isn't working.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: They transform into something like crazy.

[SPEAKER_07]: I just seen this.

[SPEAKER_07]: There was a alien abduction skip Or this lady's like strapped down to the other groinie in a spaceship.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's a tall white and a gray And the gray is leaning over her face and it's like, you are special.

[SPEAKER_07]: She's like, B-E-S, like, cuts his right in his face.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: He's like, whoa, what's with it?

[SPEAKER_07]: Added to who needs to look at the other guys.

[SPEAKER_07]: He's like, why is it she so mean?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: And she's like, you just say that to everyone.

[SPEAKER_07]: And he's like, [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we do, but man, just take a compliment.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, it was just funny.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not in today's world.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're on edge.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're all like, that's kind of what the skip was getting to.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, yeah, I'm working two jobs.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_07]: I got a bit, you guys like, geez.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think they even gave her like a chunk of gold.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's how they want us to operate.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that's like here, take it, leave.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we were going to give you a message about nuclear weapons, but never mind.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's life's hard enough for you.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, we got 10 minutes I got I was going to try to get through one more this next paragraphs all about NASA we can't just only get through one paragraph and one of these episodes I guess the first half was talking about some of those new photos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not a straight answer or never a straight answer not a space agency not a space agency never except [SPEAKER_02]: salty apples agree.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's later that latter hypothesis is not a mere speculation as the evidence NASA has added layers of observation noise and snow to space shuttle films.

[SPEAKER_07]: The US military refuses to release all relevant information.

[SPEAKER_07]: The space shuttle film footage that NASA released to the public, which is in figure 46, depicts glowing forms that establish a V-formation and follow the space shuttle.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you watch this video, it's very fascinating and it's here figure 45 and 46.

[SPEAKER_07]: where they come out of nowhere, which I think they're just all over the place.

[SPEAKER_07]: And they get behind the space shuttle and start following a V formation like these.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was just saying like, yeah, now I've seen videos.

[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen those two like big flying Vs where you only see the light, but the everyone always speculates you know, it's a big like V shape military ship, which we know exists now.

[SPEAKER_02]: But what if it ever was something like this?

[SPEAKER_02]: Which I've seen, I've seen this not the V, but when I was in, uh, [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: I talked about it on the podcast after Apple when I was throwing trash out the balloon when I stand out back and we were burning the cardboard and we seen a line of lights not like Starlink.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen that before but it was to the north and it was a line of lights like but not blinking lights and not like airplane lights.

[SPEAKER_02]: You'd see it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was a bright light and they came across the sky and like a chain and they were pretty evenly spaced out but as one would [SPEAKER_02]: It disappeared.

[SPEAKER_02]: They went from left to right as one would disappear on the right.

[SPEAKER_02]: One would appear on the left.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I counted, oh gosh, I can't remember.

[SPEAKER_02]: If it was 7 or 11, I don't know how many lights.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was one of those two numbers.

[SPEAKER_07]: So NASA has seen them following the V-formation and follow the Space Shuttle.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then they turn the camera off.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now that happens a lot too with the Space Shuttle footage.

[SPEAKER_07]: Now, and I think some of that is, and I'm not saying it's right wrong in a different national security stuff, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Let's say you, I mean, you know, levels out of kit.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Your NASA, you work with the government, your government organization, all that blah, blah, blah.

[SPEAKER_07]: You see something follow, start following.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right, and there's every bit of chance that, you know, the special look could blow up, you know, do you want the public to see that immediately?

[SPEAKER_07]: No, turn off the camera.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hmm, see, I'm just saying playing Devil's Advocate, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Like, you don't show, if you, I mean, you don't know what's about to happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: You have no idea.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're about to get transported in a different dimension.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's, like, flexed about that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Flight MH370.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think they turned off the camera furthermore optical analysis employees applied optical filters revealing a cylindrical or a sorry cylinder from hidden within pulsating cloud like objects.

[SPEAKER_07]: that approaching NASA space shuttle, where another instance, which is that that's in figure two, and in figure 23 of this paper, you can see a pulsating form emerging from a cloud and approaching the space shuttle as the camera was again turned off.

[SPEAKER_07]: These are getting to be some of those objects we were talking about earlier that current, are coming up to the space shuttle's in the international space station, like checking it out basically.

[SPEAKER_07]: Coming from the lower parts of the atmosphere, but low them away above us and coming up to them.

[SPEAKER_07]: Just curious, and it seems, uh, nothing bad happened, obviously.

[SPEAKER_07]: We'd have heard if the International Space Station came crashing into the Australian desert.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think we would have probably heard by now, because it's basically, it's shared.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is it still shared?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's international.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's in the name Russia has their own, but they go to ours every once in a while.

[SPEAKER_07]: We go to theirs.

[SPEAKER_07]: I know, uh, there's still like, I think we still take cosmonauts up and they still sometimes takes take international astronauts up.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's important to note that international space is not in space.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's in the very edges of the atmosphere.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just so people know.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's not technically true space.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: So when we talk about these creatures coming from below, like they're coming from Earth.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're coming from the atmosphere still.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: Are they strictly just Earth bound creatures?

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_07]: And like I said, plasma wouldn't be nearly as contained as a true organic right of a carbon-based life form where oxygen and temperature are necessary or big big and they may need oxygen for you know, some kind of chemical reaction they have inside, but you know, temperatures probably not big at the old when you plasma's you know, thousands and thousands of degrees.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe maybe day.

[SPEAKER_02]: They function off methane in the rise of calipharts in the recent times that's why they're just popping up so much [SPEAKER_07]: numerous credible witnesses, often military pilots and astronauts, as well as British and US government employees, have expressed a concern that some UAPs might possess advanced technologies.

[SPEAKER_07]: For example, former Naval Commander, David Favor, also observed what he said in the certain quotes, vehicles, and you know, UAPs, with superior technologies as all he'd say, vehicles with superior technologies.

[SPEAKER_07]: The commander favor reported seeing advanced or reported that advanced radar detectors and multiple vehicles favor a graduate of the top key or sorry top gun naval flight school reported that the technologies that we faced is far more superior than anything we've had on this planet.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's no evidence that plasmoids have technological capabilities, but they, this, what the race that they're saying is favor me have been confusing, organic life for technology.

[SPEAKER_01]: Check.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Because it's that alien.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: When you're looking at what, what he thinks is a ship.

[SPEAKER_07]: right zoom in at mock eight right stop or even not even stop but full right turn are you turning yeah yeah do these crazy neighbors hit the water you know it's stuff like that but they're not and not change speed or they're not tied in to our rules uh in addition there are visual or visual evidences of anonymous structures in specimens that were photographed by NASA on [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, I don't know, Mars.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.

[SPEAKER_07]: Their resemble crash sites, their wreckage of spacecraft, in the forms resembling bones and humanoid bodies and skulls.

[SPEAKER_07]: All observed than a hundred meters of each other.

[SPEAKER_07]: In fact, later evidence, as yet unconfirmed, they've only harb evidence of visitation by technological advanced-exitress trolls.

[SPEAKER_07]: So, that's one thought.

[SPEAKER_07]: My thought is, more.

[SPEAKER_07]: What if Plasmaids, like, grabbed some Mesoamerican, Mesopotamian, something like that, you know, thousands of years ago, they just grabbed some of these guys in Thurham, Demars.

[SPEAKER_07]: Just, like, over there that fast, like they just went to Mars, [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's what their star gates are there for or some of those missing shuttles and stuff like that missing the shuttles like there's always like the lost cosmic not theory and all this stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, that perhaps so apparently there was a Russian male and female cosmonaut that we're never sent to space that we're sent to space where they were stranded and a couple of ham radio operators around the world were hearing them calling for help.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know about this.

[SPEAKER_07]: We'll do a full episode on it because it's really fascinating.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, because there's, there's some dark twists and stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then they seem to blink out of existence.

[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_07]: So there's one thought that aliens got them.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I kind of was thinking, what if we're talking plasmoids?

[SPEAKER_07]: I really don't know how, like, what their capabilities are.

[SPEAKER_07]: Nobody knows, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: What if interaction with these does not vaporize you?

[SPEAKER_07]: What if it accelerates you and now you crash into Mars?

[SPEAKER_02]: or just what if it you know it just moves you transport you there like quantumly and tangles yeah yeah that they're tied into all the atmospheres of the planets yeah hmm I don't know say things possible yeah there ain't no [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, it would therefore be, or a permission, or sorry, presumption to claim that all UAPO those are plasmoids or plasmoids, basically saying that it's ridiculous to claim that they're all, right?

[SPEAKER_07]: It's the same thing we talk about with organic UFOs.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm gonna say, you know, it's small slivers.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, not at all.

[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, I think that's where, I mean, we just talk now, but we're getting into it where they start really breaking down some stuff in this, yeah, figures, like some of the photos and videos they have in this thing are crazy.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like you could see manorays and cells and these things swimming in the plasma, like when we come back to this, we're going to get into the plasma sphere.

[SPEAKER_02]: Plasma sphere.

[SPEAKER_02]: We'd never learn that part of the atmosphere.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's a fifth dimension.

[SPEAKER_02]: The plasma sphere, the ether, the ether.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, is that the same thing what you're talking about?

[SPEAKER_02]: Or, [SPEAKER_02]: No, maybe I don't, the ethers not heavily define either.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not, it's it's more denied than anything.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like then actually define like they spend more time proving it doesn't exist than just talking about it.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I think the ethers up to interpretation, right, because like to me, I guess dark matter, antimatter, whatever, that would be the ethers as well.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like that's one in the same.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's just the modern word for the stuff that we can't see and touch that makes up 90% of everything.

[SPEAKER_02]: I just think yeah, the ethers when you just take your hand, you'll plant through the air like flat your arms up and now and you feel the air is just in every scene of cloud chamber.

[SPEAKER_02]: cloud chamber.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so it's how you can watch radioactive particles like jump off of radiation.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like you can watch radioactive decay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: So it's literally you put like let's say you take a radioactive isotope like uranium, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Cloud chamber.

[SPEAKER_07]: You put it in the cloud chamber, which is just a it makes really, really thick fog.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that like those, it gets you vape.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: But you watch, you can see the little particles shooting through the clouds.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: And bouncing around in there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's the stuff that hits you and breaks down your cells.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's what makes his age.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, that's what gives you cancer.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is that a age of trons?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, grab a trons?

[SPEAKER_02]: But that's how you age.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's never tons.

[SPEAKER_02]: Grab a tons, or age of tons.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's how the aging theory.

[SPEAKER_07]: But try it on that one.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'm a scientist now, like people made up gravity.

[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, gosh.

[SPEAKER_02]: you just I mean I think this article at least I think the important thing about this article like I was saying earlier I think it's I like that we're going through it literally page by page sentence by sentence because I think this is going to be a big mix bag of a lot of uh It should be yeah, but I think I don't think whatever truly get what's truth and what's not out of it but I think there this is a way they uh [SPEAKER_02]: get the truth out there like soft disclosure basically in ways this is a and then they hide it with a bunch of other crazy wild theories but at the end of the day it is all crazy wild because the uh...

what we've been taught in school or whole lives you know not even just our generation but the generation before us what public education is taught is that these things should not exist these things shouldn't be real so that's like our building blocks of what how we uh...

defying life are at out the [SPEAKER_02]: And this is just throwing you like a wrench in all that, which I think is very important because I think a lot of us in a lot of our listeners know the world is not the way in which they say it is the world is a vampire right bullet with butterfly wings I forget the next line that song [SPEAKER_07]: 1979 talked about that in patreon because that show you made me mad or fish Huh, what'd you say that show always made me mad.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, because they were like international criminals, but They did very little But did it little the whale wars guys, but that's that's a South Park made joke about it and then they were like Was it Steve or what's the South Park kids names?

[SPEAKER_07]: Eric and Stan's style, Stan was on the boat and he pulled out an RPG and actually hit the whale boat and sank it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's what you do.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: You are criminals.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[SPEAKER_02]: You did get rid of criminals.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: They didn't kill anybody.

[SPEAKER_07]: They just sank the boat right at the water lime.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.

[SPEAKER_02]: I would see that shown forever.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's a reason.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's a reason.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's a park or whale wars.

[SPEAKER_02]: South Park.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's like a whale wars.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'd never seen that show.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's not good.

[SPEAKER_02]: Whale wars.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know what I like junkyard wars.

[SPEAKER_02]: Bring that back.

[SPEAKER_07]: But no, there's, there's a lot here that I think you're right.

[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, and this is just a big collection of a bunch of people's theories.

[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, all right, we'll catch you guys next week with more.

[SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, we've been so sick.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully we start feeling better.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope you guys too are staying healthy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Stay eat your vitamins, say your prayers.

[SPEAKER_02]: All the important stuff, like Hulk Hogan said.

[SPEAKER_07]: I've been the great and powerful mystery.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I've been Jay clone 61.

[SPEAKER_07]: We'll catch you guys next week.

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