"It's honestly one of the biggest gambles I've taken in my career," says David Howard, the journalist behind "Conversations with a Hit Man," this for the Atavist Magazine.

David is a journalist and author, and in this conversation we talk about:

• Nonverbal stuff, so the importance of doing this stuff in person
• The grand puzzle of a piece
• Looking for stories to believe in
• Keeping his mind as clear as possible when he starts to write
• Taking gambles
• Learning from losses
• And what the tape recorder frees him up for

We also hear from lead editor Jonah Ogles about his side of the table. If you want to learn more about David, visit davidhowardauthor.com and follow him on Instagram @davehoward99.

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