Hello and welcome to this episode of Tripology.

It's the only travel podcast where the hosts deliberately carry over 100 milliliters in their bags because we love a good pat down.

I'm Alan and I'm here with the ever award-winning.

Adam, you heard that right folks.

The ever award-winning Adam and the ever award-winning Alan.

We've won an award guys, we've won an award.

What a fantastic thing.

Thank you so much to everyone who's been listening from the beginning.

We've got a hell of a show for you today.

I am going to start off by telling you what I've been up to.

Alan, I hope you've got an update for us as well.

And then we're off to the hostel common room where we have a message from a listener.

And then of course, we go over to Tales of the Trip at the end, where we hear another voice message from one of you guys.

Yes, we're the winners.

The aforementioned award is the Pending podcast award.

We won the travel and adventure category.

I mean, Adam, I'm grateful to you very, very much for joining me and the listeners on this journey.

And I'm grateful ever so much to the listeners themselves for just making it possible.

It really just wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for all of you.

Yeah, it's been incredible really, hasn't it?

The recognition, the spike in activity since winning the award, Instagram's gone off the chain.

We've had a load of emails and people contacting us and stuff.

So yeah, it's been an amazing exception.

It's a hell of a strong title of an award.

That isn't it for us.

It is, yeah.

The best podcast, travel and adventure category.

I like it.

It's got a ring to it.

Yeah.

We do both of those things sometimes.

I was looking over our past episodes and I thought, oh, there's an episode where we was travelling, there's an episode where we were having an adventure.

It was all very beautiful to regard and everyone's been so, so supportive and that's filled my heart with such joy.

Apart from 1:00 person company entity that decided to take the opportunity to be incredibly unsupportive.

Yeah, I wasn't sure that we were gonna go through this, but you've mentioned it, so we might as well.

We like to be fairly transparent and honest on this show, so we might as well talk about it out in the open.

Yeah, I think we have to talk about it.

Everyone was so supportive apart from Spotify who took the opportunity once we won the Independent Podcast award to do what can only be described as a false copyright claim on our account.

So listeners of the show who use Spotify habitually will notice that last weeks episode took it ever such a long time to get up on that platform.

Hopefully it's up now, but we apologise for the delay.

It's just because Spotify decided to get its great big colossal entity boots out and stamp on Tropology and we've we're trying to evade their stamping currently it.

Is worrying.

I mean, you realize how vulnerable you are when Spotify just turn off your podcast and you know, my sister texted me last week and she said, oh, why haven't you released an episode this week?

Little did she know that there's been this whole thing between US and Spotify and then the band that we obviously contacted to to use the music.

And it's the the biggest kick in.

Not the biggest kick in the teeth, obviously, but it is such a sore point.

I feel like I've been winded because we love that song so much and we're so proud of the theme music and it forms such a massive part of, I guess the identity of the show.

And for Spotify to have said, oh, we're going to delete your podcast in all of these regions around the world because you haven't got the right to use that music.

I just feel like, one, we do 2, the band have said we've got no idea what Spotify are talking about.

And three, it's like we, we're such huge fans of that band and went around doing it the exactly the right way.

And, and now, you know, like I said, you sort of realise how vulnerable you are when you're hosted on this platform and, and your podcast is out there and they've just gone, sorry, it doesn't meet.

I think it was algorithmic actually probably wasn't it thinking about it now.

It wasn't anything other than that.

It was one of those algorithmic bands.

They don't have their own vagaboot over at Spotify, so their AI is a little bit less advanced.

But all of that nonsense is to say that the music for the show Tripology, our intro and outro music, is by a band called Elephant Stone.

And throughout all this, they've been ever so supportive and wonderful and brilliant, and their music is great.

If you love the Tripology theme tune, go on Instagram, go to Elephant Stones page.

There'll be a link in the description of this episode.

And why not send them a little message saying thanks for supporting the guys at Tripology because their music's awesome and they're a great bunch of guys.

And just thank you for the bottom of the heart for all the support you've given us over the last couple of weeks, and indeed all during our Time as Tripology podcast.

We've always had that music and we've always loved it very much.

I am getting ready to leave Shagao.

I'm leaving in just six days time.

I'm going to go and dive with some threshers, hopefully in Malapascua.

So I'm sort of disassembling the shack.

I'm sort of slowly putting things in boxes.

I'm using all my leftover rice and all that jazz and I'm trying to kind of get sorted.

Yeah, well, we're all shedding a tear, mate.

Have you sort of broken into the locals yet?

Your land landlord, landlady.

I'm sure she knows that you're leaving.

Are you seeing groups of people now?

You trying to squeeze people in?

Go for dinners, go for one last surf, go and see all the jujitsu people down at the gym.

Yes, certainly if I'd made a lot of friends in Chagao that is how I would be spending my time.

I in actual fact, I've been going down to the beach and doing more of the old watching crabs whilst sat lying down on the beach.

Adventure Time.

Because you know, I did a lot of jiu jitsu and surfing in my time in Sha GAO, but I wasn't staying in hostels so I wasn't particularly keyed into the backpacker scene.

I've LED a largely solitary business like Endeavour here, but I have been getting into quite a lot of mishaps because of, you know, when your mind's elsewhere.

My mind's been elsewhere the last week as I've been dealing with the international podcasting awards, colossal Swedish companies and just the act of leaving.

So you've not been concentrating on what you've been doing, you've been getting involved in mishaps.

What sort of shape have they taken, mate?

Because you, you don't strike me as a clumsy person.

I mean, you know, I'm proud to say I know you better than most people.

You don't do that sort of stuff that often.

Well, it'd be.

Terrible if I did strike you as a clumsy person because I could hit you anywhere a so clumsy my aim and accuracy would be ever so off.

But.

Yeah, a clumsy strike from Spotify, that was.

Yeah, Oh, there's clumsy strikes heading all over the place.

Some from Alan as he strikes out his carries, some from big Swedish companies as they arbitrarily strike independent podcast award winners.

You know, what can you do, mate?

Something happened to me the other day.

There was my favorite beach.

I went to go and have a Panini and I will say there is a small amount of joy that I get when I order a Panini and go to the beach that doesn't stem from the Panini itself or the beach itself.

It's because I know that if you were there, you would be all frustrated and wound up tight like a pack of muffins over the fact that I was eating non Filipino food in the Philippines.

You're totally right.

I would.

I'll be livid.

I'll be furious.

I'll be thinking, Alan, every single opportunity when you travel, every time you eat, let's say every time you eat is an opportunity to eat something delicious from the local cuisine and you've gone for a Panini.

But just the reason why I think of things like this is because what are the chances of that Panini being any good?

I mean, what are the chances of a great Panini coming from a tiny island in the Philippines?

It's a pretty good Panini, mate.

I chose the one that's called the Italian Panini.

It's quite a nice little shock.

Yeah, it's quite a nice little Panini.

And you know, when you're living in a place, mate, I don't know if you know this, but sometimes when you're spending a long time immersing in the culture, sometimes you fancy some home comforts.

So on this occasion I wanted to get in touch with my Italian side and get Panini and I took that little bastard down to the beach and I was really looking forward to eating it and just relaxing, maybe listening to an audio book and munching down this Italian bread.

Yeah, it was sideways Crab Beach was it was at the same beach.

It was the Philosopher's Sideways Crab Beach.

The famous Yeah.

Yeah, the hidden gem of Chagao Sideways Crab Beach.

Sometimes you'll see me there in a variety of international cuisines, but on this occasion, the beach was entirely empty and I would have given more breadth to the situation.

There was one couple on the beach who were clearly enjoying themselves when I arrived.

Oh yeah, Oh yeah, baby.

And I thought.

Was that in the Patreon section?

Yeah, I'll tell you all about it.

But what happened was the beach itself is very long, but the shaded area of the beach is a little bit more compressed down, so I had to sit closer than I would if the beach had more shade, but still respectfully distant from them.

OK, You were well aware of that.

You were sort of encroaching on their personal space.

Almost we.

I was aware of it in the way that a socially awkward, perhaps autistic man might be of sitting next to some other people on a beach.

Walking up to the backwards with your towel, just dragging it slowly along with sand.

So I sat maybe 10 meters away from them and I'm kind of set up shop, pop a shanker, my travel towel down there and I'm eating the Panini and they're looking at me a little bit more than you would expect someone to look at you if you were just living your life and both enjoying the beach on equal footing.

They were looking at me quite a bit.

I was like bit annoying, what's the problem here?

Side eye on them, all this sort of stuff.

It was only after about 5 to maybe to 10 minutes that I realized the reason they were looking at me was because I was still wearing, bolted to my head like a huge globe, my motorcycle helmet.

Now, that's a more embarrassing thing than you might realize when it's like, you know, I'm wearing a vest and short and I'm laying down on a beach towel wearing a motorcycle helmet as if I was afraid of my skull coming apart or something.

Yeah.

Safety first, certainly.

Jesus.

Are you sure that's the reason why they were looking at you?

It wasn't because you were.

You weren't eating Filipino food.

I was also naked so it could have been that.

Nice helmet.

Well that's that's hilarious mate.

I can't.

Believe it, there you go.

How far away was your bike from where you were I'd.

Walked from home.

Yeah, stranger thing was, I wouldn't even ride my bike that day.

That is hilarious.

The virus just down the road.

When you noticed, did it all sort of fall into place?

You thought, what an idiot.

Did you give him a did you engage with them?

Did you give him a little nod and go, Oh yeah, sorry.

Yeah.

So this is just my Panini eating helmet.

No.

I tried to take the helmet off without them noticing, and I was hoping they just, I was hoping the whole situation would just go away.

I sort of slowly unbuckled the strap and took it off, surreptitiously put it to one side.

It was a bit like that.

Dear, Oh dear.

What do you think the reason was that thought you just completely sidetracked by all the crabs or it's really unlike you that I'm.

Stressed out mate.

I'm stressed out because I'm leaving the Philippines.

I'm like putting everything together.

It was just one of those brain dead mishaps and I need someone to help me and I'm hoping that person will be you by way of a distraction.

What have you prepared for us?

Well, I think it's about time mate, we get over into the next section of the show.

We got hostile common room.

We've been contacted by one of you lovely listeners and it's very, very interesting and and helpful question indeed.

Let's go there now.

It's the hostile common room, Hostel common room.

How many countries you've been to mate?

And here we are in the hostel common room and I am where Adam and the listening audience all pitched together to try to distract me and calm me down from my mishap adventures by asking questions.

You can ask us all sorts of things like what are the best shoes for a hiking holiday or what's the best helmet for beachwear?

There's all kinds of questions and to ask them you simply go to Tripology podcast dot com forward slash hostel common room and send us a little e-mail there.

That's it.

You can even ask us how many countries have you been to mate?

I was thinking actually, Adam, how many countries do you think you need to have been to before you get a tattoo of the map of the world?

Oh, it's interesting.

That's like when you see people wearing a band T-shirt and you're like name 3 songs isn't it?

Yeah.

Is that someone gets a map of the world.

How many countries have you been to?

I reckon.

You see a lot of young kids actually wearing Joy Division T-shirts and you think, I wonder if they, I hope they, I mean, maybe they do, but maybe they just like the design of, of the T-shirt and maybe that's also fine.

And maybe people like the design of a map of the world.

I don't know.

But how many countries do you think is is sort of the threshold before you go?

Do you know what?

I'm going to get a tattoo now.

I don't think it's a quantitative measure.

I think what it is is travel has to be a sizeable part of your life in order to do that.

Maybe you've been just to a few countries, but it was like a trip that changed your life and you've got the world map to represent the idea of travel.

Although I would like to support the idea of localised maps more.

Like, let's say you've gone and had a transformative experience in Vietnam.

Just get the amorphous shape of Vietnam tattooed on your hip.

Or maybe you've been to the wonderful nation of Papua New Guinea.

Just get one island.

That's fair enough.

I mean, I don't really know what to do with that answer.

I suppose if you do have amazing experiences anywhere, you can absolutely get a tattoo about it.

I mean, we were in 2025, Alan.

Yeah, get tattooed.

You proved if you've had an amazing experience and you decided not to get tattooed.

Really, in this day and age, what are you trying to prove?

There doesn't need to be a reason for getting a tattoo nowadays, you just do whatever, get drunk and do it.

One of my mates by the way, also called Adam.

I bet he if he listens to this show, he won't believe he's getting a shout out on this podcast.

But I think he's still got a tattoo of a gingerbread man somewhere on his body, and it's just because he's ginger.

So there you go anyway.

I mean, you can't argue with.

That you can't argue with the logic.

It's solid logic sound, sound as a pound.

Anyway, we've got a submission here into the hostel common room and the e-mail goes as follows.

It's from Adele.

Hi Adele, Thanks for writing in the Adele.

Would I wear an Adele T-shirt if I if I had to name three of her songs, I wouldn't meet the criteria to get one.

So.

I don't think they sell very well.

No, her albums do She's amazing.

Here we go.

We'll get to the e-mail finally.

Love your podcasts by the way.

And just a question or some advice.

Myself and my wife are going travelling for a couple of years, years get in initially SE and Central Asia and then hopefully South America if the funds allow.

We are both in our late 50s.

Our budget is 150 U.S.

dollars per day.

Very handsome.

It is the Adele.

So we'll use so we'll use a mix of accommodation, homestays, Airbnb's, booking.com and some hostels.

However, the best travel advice is often from fellow travellers with a similar viewpoint, and I'm slightly concerned that if we don't stay in hostels, we won't meet that many travellers.

Also, I assume the hostel demographic is typically typically much younger.

Do you have any suggestions of how best to meet similar travellers?

Cheers, Adele.

Thanks ever so much for writing Inmate.

Alan, what have you got to say about that?

I would say that firstly, don't worry at all about the budget, because as far as those travellers go, Adele, you are what can only be described as wealthy.

Yeah, maybe, maybe don't go out for three meals if you end up in Monaco, but apart from that you should be fine.

Yeah, put it this way.

In my first month in Vietnam I spent £100.

Well, well, there you go.

You've lost the right man Adele.

So what do we think about like minded travellers getting advice, mixing with the right people?

Well, that was.

Primarily, the reason I spent such a little amount in Vietnam was because I was doing some volunteering work.

Now, hear me out.

I don't know what kind of a trip Adele wants, but what I do know is we're living in a world now where travel has become more and more popular, more and more people are doing it, and I think that's a great thing.

But emphasis now more than ever is required to make make sure people do the right kind of travel.

And for me, the right kind of travel is travel that's transformative, makes a difference, puts your best foot forward in terms of the way a place experiences you is, you know, travel's not just about going and seeing as much of the things that everyone else sees as you can.

Travel's about going and being an ambassador of yourself and your culture and going to a location and having transformative experiences.

So why not do some volunteering somewhere?

Yeah, Yeah.

I mean that would be a very enriching experience and also extend the old budget and you definitely will meet quote UN quote the right people doing it that way.

I think that'd be a great use of your time.

I do worry though, sometimes you don't find out this or develop this mindset and approach until, you know, well into your travels.

Do you think that's sort of Fair to say?

Yeah, maybe.

But I mean, I I went and did some volunteering first.

That was my entry point into travel.

I went to that town in rural Yankshire and there was like loads of people of varying ages as well do the volunteers.

One of them was in his 50s and he like really took me under his wing and taught me.

He'd been backpacking a while.

And then the same in Vietnam.

I did loads of different stuff.

It doesn't have to be like labor intensive.

So it feels like work.

It can just be like doing meeting in a cafe with some people and doing an English language exchange.

In exchange, they'll take you all around the city and show you the best spots.

There's platforms for that kind of thing where you know, you can go and have a coffee with a Vietnamese person and chat and they get the benefit of having conversation and you get the benefit of their expertise.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I totally agree.

I think that's great advice.

I would also like to throw into the ring The Walking tour.

I think you can meet some great people that way, not only other people in your situation, IE people are quite to a location just discovering the local area or in taking themselves, but also you meet a guide who's usually who usually lives in the location, knows the place like the back of their hand and is willing to, to share what they know.

So I've even met up with walking tour guides in the evening of the same day, gone out for drinks and that sort of stuff.

And I guess that brings me on to my next piece of advice, which is in a bar.

I, I've met loads of people over the years in big cities, especially in bars, and you just strike up a rapport with them.

You know, obviously the more drinks you have, the easier it gets.

And then before you know it, the following day or maybe at the weekend or whatever, you're, you're out and about.

You've joined a group and you're discovering the, the place with, with other people who are like minded.

And I would say, even though I know you've said, I think you said you're in your 50s, I, I'm not sure how much when you've been on the road for a long time, I'm not sure how much age matters.

Yeah, I don't think it it might.

The only way in which it's significant, I think is in how initially younger travellers might regard you, but that's more a factor of them than it is of you.

Like, that's just because they've basically grown up, gone to university and then they're in hostels where there's a bunch of other young people.

So there's an initial like realisation and learning process as they travel of like, oh, humans are just humans.

I've just hang out with people my own age my whole life.

But that's not how it's going to continue walking towards a great advice.

That was all great advice.

The only final note I would add to that is there are certain instances whilst you're travelling where you are going to have to do an activity that's in some way organised and there's like a premium to do that privately.

Let's say you're in Vietnam and you want to go to Halong Bay.

I'm sure you could spend an inordinate amount of money on like a private tour but ultimately just go with a group like do a joiner tour, Payless, go to Halong Bay and be proactive in meeting the people.

People there talking, I think that's a great way to meet people.

Yeah, I do think as well reading that e-mail and knowing that there's already this idea of of being on the road for a couple of years.

Just take the time.

Take your time.

There's no rush.

It's it's all to do.

And the slower you go, the, the better off you'll be for it, I'm sure.

I mean, never, never book a way out of a place before you've got there perhaps.

And you might end up staying in some places for two days.

And maybe you thought you might be there for a week, but you might end up staying some places for a month and you hadn't necessarily planned on it at all.

That's really good stuff.

I think that the tendency if you're with a partner, sometimes that can become quite insulated and if you're not careful, you can just hang out with each other and that can extend onwards and become like a pattern that you fall into.

So definitely be proactive in meeting people.

I've personally found a great way if you want to start a conversation with someone, just say, Oh my God, have you heard of this really cool podcast?

And then get it up on your phone and make sure that they subscribe to the podcast as well.

So for example, you could choose tropology and say like, oh, listen to this.

Make sure make sure that they also click subscribe.

Thanks ever so much for writing in Adele.

Of course I will reply to the e-mail in person as well and I look forward to having a bit of a chit chat with you about how your plans develop because they sound very bloody exciting.

Excellent news.

Much love, Adele and partner do keep on conversing with us because we'd love to know how all that goes.

And now, though, we're going to move on to a different section of the show featuring another piece of correspondence from another listener of the show, with this time in an audio format.

I am, of course, Speaking of Tales of a Trip.

3 minutes of someone's greatest travel story sent to usanthropologypodcast.com/tales of a Trip.

Let's hear what this listener has to say.

Hi, my name is Suraj.

I met both these gentlemen in Mumbai maybe about a year ago.

I think I want to reflect on a few different things that I've done throughout the course of my travels.

I think maybe one of the longest journeys was a 3 1/2 year voyage, actually buying a car in Western Canada, in Vancouver, and over the course of the next three and half years driving to the southern tip of Argentina.

I mean, that journey had a lot of things encased within it, but I think I'd like to touch on some, maybe some of the experiences that really held my heart a little bit more.

Who worked with Jaguars and Pumas, rehabilitating them and caring for them in the Bolivian jungle.

This was something that really grounded me for some time, working with in an orphanage in Peru.

Also feeling very blessed to have had that experience.

It definitely imparted.

Oh, definitely picked a direction for me the few years following that where I went into teaching, working on a coffee farm, doing all these things and giving back to the community in in a way to slow my journey down, but also allow me to connect with the land and the place I was in.

So that was really beautiful.

And after this experience, being able to work on a boat that went to Antarctica to cap everything off, I think was absolutely magical.

Another really beautiful experience which was completely spontaneous and unplanned was after I moved to Europe, I had a very spontaneous, I made a very spontaneous decision to travel to Spain, to South, travel to Spain and then into France to start this, the Camino de Santiago.

I walked for about 1000km / 31 days or so, and I don't think I realized that that juncture in my life, how much I needed an experience like that.

It provided me with more mental clarity than I've ever had before.

And I've generally always had a love for hiking, but there were days when I was laughing and then next minute I was crying, next minute I was socializing, the next minute I was in solitude for hours.

And it was such a range of emotions and experiences all encompassed within 130 day trip that I think when the day came that we needed to stop.

I didn't know what to do with myself and, and all I wanted to do was keep walking.

And obviously life gets in the way and, and we all have different things, but that we needed to do.

But yeah, this was one of the most, one of the experiences I treasured the most.

So thank you guys and good luck for your future projects, Joe.

Thank you so much for sending that in.

A person who of course we met when we were living in Mumbai.

You don't have to know us in order to send in the tales of a trip, but the way the cookies crumbling is that a lot of people we've met on our travels are sending stuff in and we're incredibly appreciative of that.

The the person who sent that message in Suraj, he struck me at the time and again, listening to that as such a beautiful, personable individual who you know, at the time I'd been travelling in India for a while and you came and joined me.

You're a bit fresher and going out, I was a bit kind of tired and bewildered and there weren't so many people I connected with in that hostel in Mumbai, but Suraj was certainly one of them.

So thank you so much for sending in that message.

Yeah, I mean, I don't even know where to start.

Suraj mentions.

He didn't want to stop walking at the end of the Camino, and I'm not sure I wanted his voice note to end either.

I mean, it was, you know what?

What?

He's a man, isn't he?

He's he's done it all twice it sounds like.

Yeah, good storyteller.

He's one of those people that I met travelling and he he's continued to hold some area of my mind.

I think of him more often as a character that was of some importance than than other people that you might just meet fleetingly.

Well, I totally agree and.

You know, I've got one story about him that I would love to talk about in the in the Patreon section after the show as well, because I think it sums up who he was as a character.

I didn't know that he worked rehabilitating big cats in the Bolivian Amazon, Allah myself, so that's really cool to know.

I wonder if he he'd already done that, presumably by the time I'd met him.

Well, no, must have, must have.

But I mean, I didn't realise that, you know, because what happens when you travel and you live in hostels and stuff and you meet other people who are well travelled, usually this sort of stuff comes up in conversation.

Yeah, but he, he left all that.

He left all that out.

Oh, he's too busy running businesses.

So, you know.

Fantastic entrepreneur businessman he's got a clothing brand now called Sunday garments, which is fantastic.

Check that out.

I'll put the link in the description.

Really, really exceptional stuff.

And he's, he's got his heart in the right place, but he's you're right, he's charismatic and he sort of people gravitate towards him, don't they?

He's like the, the guy at the table that every single person in the hostel seems to know and the the experiences themselves.

They are right at the top like once in a lifetime kind of stuff.

And the I do I, I do wish with all my heart that more people tried to do what he's done in terms of or some of the stuff that we've done A point to point.

Maybe you go somewhere, maybe you buy a vehicle, maybe you get on a bicycle, maybe you don't have an end date, but I wish that there was a culture within society.

I wish it was normalized.

I wish people were encouraged and pushed to just go in One Direction and just see what happens.

And the likelihood is you will probably be fine.

The likelihood is you will come out the other end of it with some wild stories, having lived experiences beyond your wildest dreams, telling stories to people years down the line and inspiring them to do the same.

It's just I wish more people did it and I wish more people knew they could do it and I wish more people believed they could do it.

Yeah, I'm so glad you said that.

And it echoes something that I was just thinking when I was listening to that message from Suraj, is we ask people to send in their greatest travel stories.

And so often we get an amazing tale that, you know, has drama or romance or love, and it's beautiful.

And it's why travel so amazing is you can go and have an incredible experience, but when you listen to something like that, you realize that if you spend your life addressing the project of travelling as a mechanism to better yourself, better the world around you, do lots of volunteering things, challenge yourself, do these long walks, do these business ideas, all that stuff, all within the context of a life spent travelling.

No longer is it about like, oh, but the best time was when I walk the Camino or the best time was when I rehabilitated that Puma.

It becomes the best time was travel.

It gave me a sense of who I am in all these different ways.

And the greatest travel story is the life that I'm currently living.

And I think that was the overarching message of that tale of a trip.

And thank you very much for sending it in.

And I'd love to hear all the listeners who have spent a long time on the road, are thinking about spending your time on the road, have great ideas with what they want to do.

Just send in a 3 minute voice note so we can play it on the show because they're all so much of value.

And we want to hear from each and every one of you as we expand this beautiful travel community.

Yeah, it's been an amazing episode, mate.

I've really enjoyed talking to you.

I've loved hearing from the people listening at home.

I think now it's time we go off into the Patreon section, The Lost and Found.

I'll see you there.

Yeah, if you've enjoyed the show, if you think that the that we've taught you something or you found it funny or beautiful or you just like the camaraderie between me and Adam.

There's all sorts, more kinds of that over on patreon.com/tripology podcast for a very nominal fear.

You not only are supporting the show and me and Adam as we continue to do this and live this life, but you're also entering into this community of travellers who will share ideas and talk to one another.

It's a beautiful place over there.

For just a couple of dollars, you get access to this section after the show where me and Adam just we just talk.

We just talk and it's like intimate and relaxed and cool.

So we hope to see you there over in the Lost and Found section.

For now, though, we'll see you all next.

Week, make sure you bring your helmet.

We'll see you there.

Bye, bye.

Bye.