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Knocked Out in Northern Nigeria: African Boxing with Harry Jaggard

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Hello and welcome to this episode of Tripology.

It's the only backpacking podcast where the hosts don't also have a daily travel vlog channel on YouTube.

Yeah, I'm Alan and I'm here with the Tectonic Adam.

It's great to be back.

Thanks everyone for joining us again.

We've got a wicked show this week, of course, a little catch up where we're going to talk about what we've been doing this week, what's been happening in our respective lives, and then Vagabots back.

He's off to Chiang Mai apparently, so we've got to find him the most authentic experience.

And then of course, we've got tales of a trip at the end where we hear from one of you lovely guys about what you've been up to.

I'll tell you what I've been up to this week, mate.

I've been craking all over the shop.

But Oh yeah, you're taking up dance lessons again.

Yeah, there's been something in the way of dance lessons.

But my primary reason for shaking and quaking and moving about is because of the, I mean, haphazard number of earthquakes that have been taking place.

More than one, More than one earthquake.

Guess how many there's been in the last 7 days?

Well, I've got to go for #7 haven't I-77 and seven days, mate.

There's been 31 earthquakes that have hit Chagao in the last 7 days.

Oh well, surely not just Chagao.

The Philippines in General 31.

Very isolated, very concentrated, little quakes.

No, they've been all, they've sort of been in this region, yeah.

Oh my goodness, did you know they were coming?

You know, you've sort of got your finger on the pulse when it comes to that sort of stuff.

Great choice of words I've got.

Every part of my body has been on the pulse in one way or another.

But let me give you the stats, my friend.

In the last seven days, we've had three earthquakes above 4 magnitude 4.

Yeah, including one up to magnitude 7.

We've had six above magnitude 3 and 18 above magnitude 2 and then the rest of them have just been little micro quakes.

Hang on a minute.

One at a magnitude of up to 7.

I think there's one at 7, yeah.

Would that not have created a tsunami?

Well, it just we were on the outsquirts.

Outskirts, what you get up to in your own time.

It's none of my business.

One of them hit Cebu quite hard and it's been quite problematic.

But because Char GAO is there just on the If you look at a map, you'll see it just on the edge of the red ring of Earthquake Ness.

You'll see that it wasn't so bad for us, but my shack didn't move quite considerably.

It was the, yeah, literal Shake Shack.

So go on then talk, talk us through it.

Because I when I was in Taiwan last year, I felt my first earthquake.

I don't know if it's your first earthquake, but mine was a measly, I think it was a 5.1.

And I didn't even know it was an earthquake.

Grow up.

I didn't know it was an earthquake at first.

Did did you?

No, I thought that someone was playing a kind of practical joke and what I'd imagined.

I was lying in bed when it happened, and my initial thought was that several sort of burly men were outside my shack and rocking it back and forth.

That was genuinely my initial reaction.

I was like who is rocking the shack and more.

Plausible was it than an earthquake?

Well, I just thought.

It's quite accessible, this shack, and I thought why are people shaking the shack?

Maybe there's some construction going on, maybe someone pushed past it as yeah, I don't really know.

It's a corrugated shack, so I reckon you could push it from side to side.

And then I thought, this is very unusual, The whole foundations of the shack are moving.

I went outside and I noticed that my driveway was moving, as was the street running alongside my building.

And it was at that moment I put two and two together and realized this was probably an earthquake.

How?

What do you mean it was moving?

Was it sort of?

The pavement was cracking.

If you've never, if you've only ever experienced a little earthquake, mate, you won't know this, but it's very particular feeling of an earthquake.

And I'd never felt it before, but it sort of feels like the whole planet underneath you is one of those little wobble boards that you might sort of try and do Pilates on if you're a middle-aged woman.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Go, go.

OK.

I can imagine it.

That's quite a good description.

I can imagine that now.

Yeah.

It just felt like the world was sort of diving a little bit of a different frequency.

And I don't want to make light of earthquakes.

Obviously they can be terrible, terrible disasters and wreak havoc in people's lives, but I didn't hate it.

You're working your core strength where you used it as an opportunity to get ABS.

I got out there amongst, I mean this was a minor earthquake, but I got out amongst it and I was sort of just shaking and jiving a little bit and I am looking a little bit more toned as a result.

Yeah.

I mean, not that that's, that's definitely not my sort of experience.

When I was in Taiwan, I was in a place called Oh, shit.

So I think I was actually in a place called Guangfu when this happened.

And I think there was an earthquake.

Oh, no, yeah, there was something, something bad happened.

Was it typhoon or something?

Anyway, loads of damage.

One of our friends is out there helping Joey.

Big shout out to you.

Keep it up, mate.

But anyway, I was there and I remember lying on the bed as well and things started shaking and it sounded like a huge dumper truck or something was driving down the road and it was sort of rocking the building.

I thought, wow, that's a bloody big truck.

I thought it was a generator initially.

I thought they'd sort of wax up some piece of machinery, and then it was, you know, shaking the whole building.

And then it got louder and didn't stop.

And I thought, Blimey, that's a big dumper truck.

And then it got even louder and things started falling off the wall.

And I was like, oh fuck, that's probably an earthquake.

Yeah.

I mean, they are, they have potential to cause a lot of issues, earthquakes and they're, they're a pretty difficult thing that Mother Nature likes to throw up.

And because I'd never experienced one before, and because my initial reaction to this one was, oh, I'm interested in you.

I think I want to learn a bit more.

I started frantically Googling about earthquakes and I was pretty surprised by the outcome of my Googling.

So.

Yeah, because you you only know the rhyme if you encounter a bear, don't you?

Exactly which we all know.

If it's brown, lay down.

If it's black, fight back.

If it's white, goodnight.

With earthquakes, though, it's a little bit of a different strategy.

And you strike me as being woefully ignorant as to the quaking of the earth.

So I'm going to use this opportunity to educate you.

How many earthquakes do you think there are a year on this beautiful circle shaped planet?

Well, given that you've already experienced 31 in the last week, am I able to do the mathematics?

And how big do I go?

Because I don't want to rain on your parade.

I don't want to say something that's so big that ends up being reductive.

And do you don't think I could?

Big mate really.

Go on try and derail the podcast, yeah?

How many earthquakes do I think all over the world?

Techno tectonic plates?

Doing the maths in my head.

Just saying different words.

Oh, you might have volcano on our series.

Oh yeah, tectonic plates.

Continental Shift.

Geology.

How many did you say?

I had said 100,000.

You're not far off, mate.

They're not far off that I would.

I would put that in the category of a moderate derailing.

It's only 500,000 there.

Oh.

My goodness, 500,000 that's a lot of earthquakes.

That's more than one a day.

They had only one fifth of those are felt by people about a 100,000 people feel the earthquakes.

Oh, is that cool?

400,000 earthquakes a year.

They go completely unnoticed and I would like to use this opportunity to recognize them.

I see you said 100,000 are recognized by people.

You mean 100,000 of the earthquakes?

The way it was phrased led me to believe that only 100,000 people could feel the earthquakes.

Well, it's like a mutation that those people have.

Some special power.

So we're like, Oh my God, it's a 5.1.

People are going really.

I mean, you are moving a lot, are you?

You're on a date with someone.

You don't know that they have this ability and they're like, Oh my God, what was it?

I just felt an earthquake.

Your apps are so toned.

OK, wow, my goodness, do.

You want to know something else?

There's still a lot of earthquakes.

I said 100,000 and how would I know otherwise?

Well, exactly.

If only 100,000 can be felt.

I try not to lie to you mate, but let me tell you something else about earthquakes is sometimes they have the ability to literally change time.

OK, now you got me interested.

There was an earthquake in an earthquake.

There was an earthquake on someone's birthday and then paid by a whole year.

There's an earthquake in 2011 in Japan, and because it was so ferocious it started, it just very slightly changed the Earth's axis and shortened the day by 1.8 microseconds.

As interesting as that is, it's negligible, isn't it?

I like to think there was someone in Japan who was doing the whole thing, but you'll never be as young as you are right now, and by the time they finish the census, the person was ever so slightly younger.

It's really interesting, even though in those of earthquake digging loads of facts and figures and stuff.

Do you know where the most earthquakes are?

I think Chile is one of the most earthquake able countries in the world.

Actually, that does check out because you know when you text me because.

Everyone there has turned ABS.

No, in the first few earthquakes that you felt, you know, I would imagine that was the only time you bothered to tell me that you were going through an earthquake was in the first few when it was still novel by the by the 25th and 26th earthquake, you probably were just not bothered about it.

So.

I was just sending you pictures of my tours.

Yeah.

Excited.

No, no, I was.

I was with a woman at work when I received the text message.

And I told her I was like, Oh my God, my mate's in the Philippines and there's an earthquake.

And we were talking about earthquakes.

And then I asked her, she's she's from Chile, by the way.

I don't know if I just mentioned that she's from Chile.

And I asked, she said, have you ever felt an earthquake?

And I said, yeah, last year in Taiwan, have you ever felt any?

And she said, hello, I'm from Chile.

So I, I think you're probably right.

I think there's a fair few earthquakes at Chile.

Yeah.

Well, that I do think that's true.

Yeah.

So that was boring.

I'm so sorry.

It stays in.

Everything stays in nowadays.

Yeah, well, I'm sure I have empathy for her as as now an experience of an inordinate amount of earthquakes.

The thing about an earthquake, it's been very difficult to measure the severity of it because my experience of it has just been my shock shaking.

But my landlord texted me and she was like, she was like, oh, I hope you're safe.

I hope there's no trouble.

You know, if you need anything, let me know.

And he said.

He said yeah, I'll have a new water pump for coffee pot and if you could pick to save it, it'd be brilliant.

I said, I hate to break it to you, but I'm sorry, but in the last, in the last earthquake, because several things got quite irreparably damaged.

This is the sign from the universe you've been waiting for.

It has delivered.

I am the proud owner.

Now, for those of you who are wondering after last week's episode, I am the owner of a new water pump and a new coffee pot.

The safe door has as yet been unreported.

Aha, OK, well, I think that's good.

It's a nice.

I've done a dribbling, kind of.

Situation I've gone oh.

Oh, my coffee pot's broken.

When she came to deliver me a new coffee pot, I went.

You won't believe it.

You might think that by giving me this coffee pot, you've reintroduced the ability to make coffee into my life, but you haven't because I ain't got any water.

Listeners of the show, if you don't understand those references, it's a call back to a previous episode.

So what do you do then?

Stop, drop and roll?

What's the protocols?

Get get on the floor.

Get away from anything that might fall off the wall.

Well, it's not got that serious really.

Although I did Google earthquake Chagao and there was people in forums going, is it safe to visit Chagao right now?

Is it really terrible?

And people were saying no, stay away.

So I was quite surprised to learn that it was actually there was some evacuations, people being told to get to high ground because there was the threat of a tsunami.

Wow, and how far away is your shack from the sea?

About you could probably, you could probably get to the water if I had to.

I think I could be in the sea in 30 seconds.

Is it that close?

Oh my God.

But I would be to do that I would be running.

No.

I mean, even if you weren't doing that, they're still very close.

What I'm trying to ascertain is whether you would be engulfed by a wave or not, and I think you probably would be.

Quite good if in the Patreon section of this episode you just rift and I tried to jump into the sea and get back.

Can we do like a live stream or something?

Maybe we'll try.

Yeah, that's not it.

That's not worth a couple of dollars.

I don't know what it is to see you in the Patreon section.

I can't do it right now because I'm scared of the tsunami, but in subsequent weeks, before I leave, Shagao will do something like that, yeah.

That sounds good.

There you go.

Now's the time to sign up, guys.

Yeah, OK, Well, Speaking of the Patreon section, I'd like to use this opportunity to let people know we have a Patreon section, the Lost and found section.

It's ever such a beautiful section at the end of the show, and it costs such a minimal amount of money.

We need your support now very much more than ever to grow the share and make it a beautiful, wonderful community.

So if you do by chance have a couple of spare dollars a month to listen to an extra 50 minutes the end of the episode, go ahead patreon.com/tropology podcast.

It's just a beautiful place over there, and we love you very much for trying your best.

Now, though, Adam, we've got to hear from our favorite travel AI, the proverbial vagaboot.

Who's going to judge which hostel it wants to stay out based on the quantitative measure of authenticity alone?

Let's battle it out, Alan.

It's hostile wars.

Hostile wars.

OK, here we are.

Hostile wars.

Vagabot, of course, our own tripological AI trained on data from backpackers who went to Thailand on a gap year.

It just seeks the perfect, most authentic experience ever.

And by authentic, of course we mean absolute most horrendous.

Me and Adam are going to compete to find the worst reviews in Chiang Mai, Thailand, and we'll see where Vagabot wants to stay.

And that hostel will be named and shamed live on air.

Adam, you are the winner of last episode of Hostile Wars.

You, of course, had the hostel which Vagabot chose.

I'll go first, shall I?

Sure, sure.

Let's, let's hear what you got, mate.

Let's hear what you're going to deliver to Vagabot.

Your suggestion?

See if you can become the Chiang Mai champion.

It's a place we've both been, I believe, a place where you know and love and a place where you absolutely want Vagabot to have an authentic experience.

Yeah, Chiang Mai.

I didn't spend a whole lot of time there, but I tried to find the worst review that I could so that Vagabot would really get its teeth into Chiang Mai as a place, and I chose a review by a 25 year old Spanish traveller who gave the hostel.

I'm about to read out the review from two stars only.

Oh.

Low.

Here we go.

The owners were not friendly from the beginning but after I checked out they were just so rude.

I asked if I could leave my bags until 6:00 PM and they agreed.

But around 4 PMI walked past the hostel and I found out there was no one in reception and my bags were left outside on the street.

I called the owner asking for explanation and she basically hung up on me.

I have never experienced this lack of hospitality before.

Very unprofessional and rude.

My goodness.

OK, I don't fancy my chances.

I'd be furious.

I'd be livid.

You'd be livid, wouldn't you?

Things like that just left strewn across the lawn, whatever they were.

What would you do in that situation?

I mean, there's very little in the way of recourse.

I suppose what you're going to do, call the police.

But I would be furious.

Oh, the very least I would do is go on the Internet and leave a two star review.

It's amazing that they, I mean the, the, the stain must have been amazing, the comfort of the bedding must have been amazing to have earned that extra start.

Well yeah, interesting to know your thoughts mate.

When you were doing your research a lot of bedbugs being mentioned I found in hostels in Chiang Mai.

I don't want to put a cat amongst the pigeons.

But I'm just saying if you are going to go there, if you are going to Chiang Mai, maybe do do read the reviews beforehand because you wouldn't want to stay there.

Yeah, I want to talk more about bedbugs.

I of course only experienced them once in my whole time, but because I've avoided them for the most part because they are the bane of the traveller.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think I've ever experienced them, and maybe that means I actually have and I've just been completely unaware.

Maybe it's me.

Maybe I'm infecting all of the other beds?

Oh, that's nice.

That's what she said.

That wouldn't be a nice thing to say, would it?

At all?

He infected my bed.

Grace, Grace, Grace.

Yeah, they're horrible.

Anyway, moving swiftly on, I have selected the review from a 18 to 24 year old female from Finland who was also given this Hostel A2 Star review.

Let's have a read.

Here we go.

Had a very bad experience in this hostel.

Found bedbugs in many of the beds in two different rooms.

The staff did not care about it and did not seem to be concerned at all.

They were not helpful when we told them about the problem and when we asked for a refund, they completely ignored us and they were on their phones instead.

The staff also slept in the same room as us, which was pretty weird.

One morning a random woman appeared in my friend's bed.

I don't recommend staying here.

Yeah, I mean, it is the cardinal sin.

They've allowed bed bugs into the property and then they've not been proactive about it.

I don't fancy my chances in actual fact.

Well depending on what you're after a 2 star review could be an ace or of you random people showing up in your bed and the staff sleeping in the room as well.

So I mean, surely the conditions aren't that bad, are they, if the staff are staying there as well?

I mean, if there's bedbugs, Adam, I think that Vagabot is going to absolutely love it.

Let's, let's, I don't know.

If everyone knows what bedbugs are in the way you do, I think people might just see an insect in a bed and think it's a bedbug.

Well, let's find out what Vagabot where where Vagabot wants to stay.

Adam's Hustle.

Why?

Because bed bugs are the nuclear bomb of authenticity that I'm looking for.

Once they're mentioned, it's game over for anywhere else.

Alan's review was bad service, but Adams was legendary.

Authentic backpacking at its best.

Book me in baby peace.

There we go Adam, you win again.

Vagabot, of course, viewing bedbugs as more of a beacon of authenticity than having his bags left out on the street, which I don't think touches the sides for Vagabot.

Being at the perfect travel AI, I think Vagabot probably doesn't have much in the way of bags anyway.

What can I say, mate?

That's a couple in a row now.

Yeah, I think you need to step your game up.

And of course, as is tradition, I'm now going to reveal the name of the hostel that is New Warm Light Hostel.

New Warm from light hostel in Chiang Mai.

If you want to go and have an authentic experience in Northern Thailand, go and head there.

You're very good at choosing authentic places for Vagaboot to stay.

While it bodes well for your ability to win at Hostel Wars, doesn't bode well if me and you decide to host any tropology tours in the future.

Looking for the most authentic because we would do it in reverse, wouldn't we?

We would basically try and find the the worst hostel and then definitely avoid that one like the plague.

Yeah, if we do do a tropology tour, rest assured that we'll find out where Vagabot's staying and we'll stay on the other side of town.

Well, we might organise a walking tour where you can all meet up and that sort of stuff, but there will be no better hugs like I promise you that.

The Vagabot walking tour where you just go and look at a rubbish dump and.

There I did.

I really enjoyed that mate.

I'm glad I'm I'm not going to be a sore winner.

I'm I'm really happy with the result and I was quietly confident.

What?

Is a soul winner someone just celebrating so much so they get sort of intramuscular damage?

They're just like, yeah, man.

Get all sore as a result.

Yeah, gloats.

It's all winning someone who gloats, aren't they?

There's just someone who rubs it in the loser's face and says, you know, there's an arrogance to them and I don't want to be that guy.

Well, I'm happy for you.

I'm happy for you winning at Hostile Wars again.

I know that you're sort of developing quite a deep relationship with Vagabot now.

The he told me that you'd be messaging him quite late into the night, sharing your travel ideas.

So I'm not going to say that I'm jealous necessarily, but you know, Vagabot should just bear in mind that I edit him and put a voice to him.

So just, you know, maybe want to give me some flowers next week, Vagabot.

Now, though, Adam, it's time for my favorite part of the show.

And your favorite part of the show?

And I've been messaging a couple of listeners.

I prefer to interact with the listeners.

You prefer to interact with Vagabond.

That's just one of the key differences between us.

They've been saying it's their favorite part of the show.

I'm of course Speaking of tales of a Trip.

3 minutes where listeners can send in their greatest travel stories at tripology.com/tales of a Trip.

It can be.

I mean, you can talk about anything.

You can tell me a story about the time where you bought a coffee for a homeless gentleman on the streets of New York City and ended up having a whistle stop tour of Long Island.

Or you could tell me about the time where you broke into a pillow factory and just nestled yourself in amongst all the lovely soft bedding there.

That would be nice story.

3 minutes as you like.

Let's hear what 1 listener had to say.

Hey guys, I hope you're well.

Thank you for connecting with me.

I've got many stories, many crazy stories to tell, but the one that comes to mind, the one that that is better than the rest, it's the best.

Always whenever people come up to me, this is quite often I speak about this and people always ask me what's the craziest story you have?

And this one is the craziest story I have for sure.

So basically I was in Nigeria.

I was in northern Nigeria, which is known to be one of the most dangerous parts of Nigeria.

It's known to be very dangerous for extremism there and I went to go see a bare knuckle boxing match.

I thought I was going to watch, but actually what happened was I didn't just watch.

So went with my tour guide and he sat me down.

There's a stadium of maybe 5000 people to 10,000 people, all Nigerian.

And basically these young, young guys are just basically just punching the hell out of each other with rope.

They just have rope around their hands.

So actually the, the hit is more, it hurts more with the, with the rope.

And he told me we're just going to watch.

But he said to me, my tall guy said to me, it'd be funny if you, if you joined, you'd be the first ever foreigner to, to fight.

And I laughed and I said that that would be funny.

And he took that miscommunication.

He took that as a yes.

So all of that, I guess I've got to take responsibility for that.

But he took that as a yes.

Next minute, you know, he's, I didn't know any of this, but I hear my name on the loudspeaker.

That's the first time I knew that I was fighting when they when they said Harry Jaggard from England is going to fight now.

And I was rolling the camera at that point.

So I thought in the in the moment, I thought it would be funny.

So I said yes.

And that's I have no boxing experience, by the way.

Not, not any now now I've been boxing, but before that I had no boxing experience.

And next minute, you know, they're tying me up with rope.

They're putting rope on my hands.

They spit water on you so you're more like lubricated.

So you get hit.

The hits don't hurt as much.

And then I'm in the ring and this guy's like the same height as me.

But it's a weird style of fighting where you just, you hit with one hand.

And he, he really went to town on me.

I said to everyone, I was like, oh, can you just make it like a, can you make it like a easy match, like a fun exhibition match.

But he didn't get that miscommunication again.

And he's hitting me, hitting me, hit me, and then he knocks me out.

I fell to the ground.

I thought I was knocked out, but didn't look in the video like I was knocked out.

But got up and they called the match off and I had a bloody lip.

And that is the last time I'll be boxing internationally, professionally, I guess it would be parents weren't happy about that.

Had a injury for the rest of the trip, couldn't eat, had to eat through a straw.

And so I probably wouldn't recommend it for anyone.

And that's the craziest story I have, so thank you.

How's the Harry Jagger?

The crazy, crazy times they put.

They tied him up with rope and spat water out of it.

Sounds like a mugging.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, as if it wasn't bad enough already.

That is my idea of of maybe a nightmare.

I don't think I would have ever rope as well.

As soon as Harry said rope it just makes me wince.

The cascade of events they're going, yeah, that would be funny.

And in doing that, in acknowledging the humor of the situation, Sir, you've agreed to a rope tying, some water spitting, a punching in the face, and a week of drinking food through a straw.

Yeah, my God, talk about getting stuck in.

I mean, if you, if you haven't seen Harry's stuff yet, of course put links in the description, that sort of stuff to his Instagram and YouTube channel and stuff.

It's amazing, amazing content.

Absolutely love watching his stuff over the years.

Really like endearing, great interacting with locals and just captures a side of travel that I don't think many other people do.

Speaks a number of languages as well.

Just an awesome, really, really likable guy, which almost makes this story even worse because I can't imagine the the physical violence of, you know, even just a sparring match with big guys from northern Nigeria with ropes around their hand.

I'm not sure I would.

I would even do that for for fun or an excursion or even for the don't get any ideas, Alan.

I wouldn't do it for the purposes of content.

Yeah, well, I mean, let's play some tripological reasoning with regards to this.

Let.

I think that you might have a similar reaction if a Nigerian gentleman said to you, oh you know, it'd be really funny if you went into this bare knuckle event.

You might say, yeah, that would be funny.

At what point do you abjectly make enough of a fuss to stop the cascade of event?

Well, I think, I think I don't, I'm not sure in that environment it would already be quite strange for me to be in that environment watching a bare knuckle boxing match.

I don't think I've seen, you know, Chiang Mai got a mentioned earlier and I'd see a Mai Tai fighting match.

Exactly.

So just imagine that, but in.

Africa, yeah, I would like to think that my response to that would be yeah, that would be funny because that's quite sort of light hearted and yeah, a good joke.

But in reality I'd be I'd be thinking there would be few things less funny actually than me being in that ring.

I would I maybe I'll regressively, I would have put a stop when I saw the the ropes coming up to me.

No, no, no, this is not you know, that is yeah, I know, I get, I know I'm like that would be the first foreigner and that'd be really cool and you know, you'll be really good for the, you know, event and whatever, but I'm absolutely not going to do it.

I've just seen the previous fights and I don't want any.

I don't want any of it.

Thanks.

So as the situation snowballed, you would kibosh it I.

Think so?

I would have to.

I mean, I wouldn't.

I've never had a punch in my life, Alan.

I wouldn't know what I'm doing.

I'd be so out of place.

It would be, you know, I mean, I think out of the two of us, yeah, you would Would we be there together?

Maybe.

And we, we could just usher.

Usher you in, perhaps?

That's what I would do if I was in that situation and you'd been so stupid as to say that's that would be funny.

I think I would have to step in.

With a tour guide in that way.

Yeah, if you did something like that, I would go Adam, it's not looking good for you, mate.

I'm going to have to going to have to save you here.

But in return, consider it a sort of life and you'll have to do it a podcast with me for the next 10 years.

You say funny, I'll show you fucking funny.

Adam, I'm sure for straight away this all guy says, oh, it'd be funny if you stepped in and you go, yeah, that would be about Adam, you idiot, you don't understand the Nigerian customers at all.

This is going to get out of control.

You're going to be in the ring, you're going to get a bloody lip, you fool.

The northern Nigerians have got a very particular sense of humour that I don't think you quite understand.

That's that's right up your street though, isn't it mate?

I can imagine you wanting to go to an event like that, maybe drawing the line of being involved in one until you'd had more boxing experience perhaps.

But for anyone who hasn't seen it jump on YouTube, I'll put the link in the description if there's any consolation.

Harry, the video is worth it.

It's it's pretty rough, but I do think it makes for great watching.

Yeah, and what a great submission to Tales of a Trip.

I think that you, more than me, are good at sort of saying yes to experiences while you're travelling.

I don't think I'd have got in that situation.

I think I'd have been like, absolutely not emphatically.

I don't think I would have engaged.

So there you go.

I'd have missed out on that wonderful experience and the wonderful accompanying video.

Yeah, well, thanks ever so much for sending in Harry.

Big, big fan.

Hopefully we see you out there somewhere, mate.

We'll have to do something in the future.

And I think that's pretty much it mate, isn't it?

I think we're going to shoot off into the Patreon section now.

Yeah, the Patreon section, the Lost and Found section.

Go to patreon.com/topology podcast if you want to hear that little bonus 15 minutes, the end of the episode.

But for now, send in your Tales of the Trip stories and we'll see you all next week.

Thanks for watching.

We'll see you there.

Bye.

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