Hello and welcome to this episode of Tripology.

It's the only backpacking show where the hosts are actually backpacking and doing a show.

It's a backpacking show.

I'm Alan and I'm here with the ever arboreal Adam.

It's so nice to be back.

Thanks everyone for joining us again for another fantastic week.

I've got to start off by saying I apologise for my lighting.

I'm in a holiday park in the middle of nowhere and there's a motion sensor.

It is a communal area.

There are other people in the room, so any noises, bumps and farts you do hear it's them and it's not me.

We're going to continue on from last week.

We're going to hear about Alan's adventures over in Borneo.

Did he see one of those orange apes?

And then of course, we've got tales of a trip at the very end, one of you lovely listeners sending in one of your travel stories.

And then I'm going to tell you a wicked story in the Lost and Found section where I had a very authentic homemade Indian Curry in a campsite in the absolute middle of nowhere, Alan.

The Lost and Found section, of course, available exclusively on Patreon.

There's a link in the description for those of you interested in splashing out a bit of the old cash.

I don't think anyone will mind about your lighting, Adam.

On accounts of no one watches anyway.

Everyone just listens intently, like sort of people with their eyes closed around a campfire.

And that's very nice.

I like that.

Indeed.

Last week I promised to continue my story.

Keen aired listeners, fans of the show will remember that I had an eye infection when I went to Sepilog and the Borne and Sun Bear Sanctuary.

But I decided to continue my adventure in spite of the eye infection and book a three day, two night river safari on Kinabatangan River, one of the best places to see wild orangutans.

I'm very jealous, mate.

I am jealous because it sounds like it's right up my street.

Now.

Is this a river cruise in the sense you're going to be sleeping on the boat?

Or do you get off at various points and sleep with maybe, you know, homestay local family cooking up some nice Borneo grub?

I had very little information going into Adam.

I booked the cheapest possible river cruise I could find where it's kind of a package.

You stay with a lodge, they take you out on the river a few times a day.

I won't name the lodge because I did reach out saying hey, award-winning podcast perhaps.

Perhaps it would be beneficial for both of us if an orangutan was cited, didn't receive a response book just same as everyone else, and as a result the lodge will remain nameless.

But I was quite excited to go with him.

Mate, I just had the eye infection to deal with beforehand.

So in the morning they were going to do a hotel pick up.

On the morning of the pick up a bee lined into town, went to an optometrist and said can you give me a salve, an ointment, some sort of cure for this melody?

My eye was all big and red.

I was in glasses.

I said what can you do for me?

She said sprinkle this on your eye as often as you can basically and it should tide you over until you come back from the jungle.

So I thought OK good to know, thanks for the salve and onwards.

Picked up and taken all the way to Kinipatangan River.

That's amazing mate.

I'm very glad you found an optometrist in these.

Well, you're able to in these far reaching places.

I can see, I can see through the camera lens that your your eye looks pretty good.

Almost back to brand new, you might say.

Yeah, I mean it was many weeks ago that this happened, so if you would just said I can see the remnants of an infection, I would have been pretty offended.

But we got there mate, to this place.

I booked a hostel.

Everyone else on the whole damn trip booked private rooms, the result of which was that my I just basically had a very large private room.

Oh.

Oh, right.

Because you would, you would thought, well, you just booked a dorm.

I guess that's the cheapest option.

Yeah, that's pretty good, isn't it?

Quits in.

We're all doing the same thing.

We're all doing like it's all fully catered.

You know, you get your meals, you get the same number of cruises on the river, you get jungle walks and all that sort of stuff, all the same package, but it was significantly more expensive.

If you went in a private room, I paid about $100 for the whole thing, which is about the price you'd pay for hostels and meals and all that activities anyway.

And I just had a huge room with different beds and I took it a little game to hop between the beds each of the nights that I was staying there to see which one was the best.

Like a sort of kinky little travelling Goldilocks.

Goldilocks Yeah, that's so funny.

Did it?

Did anyone else know?

Did the other people that were staying in private rooms, did they know that you had paid a lot less money and then maybe lucked out with a an absolute dorm to yourself?

When you have got an eye infection, you're feeling a little bit self-conscious, maybe low about yourself.

One way that you can acquire some self esteem is to tell everyone how stupid they were to book the private room and how you are just having a wonderful time in the dorm room.

No one, of course, wanted to join me in the dorm on accounts of the putrid eye infection, but I did.

I was a contagious.

I don't think so, no, but it looked like it should have been.

I knew you leant into that, did you?

Yes, I said, careful of the pillows in the dorm room.

They've had ever such a problem since I've arrived.

Especially the bottom bunks, yeah.

So I did make some friends though, in spite of my aesthetic appearance, and we headed out on the very first cruise of the day.

Yeah.

Do you know what?

The Borneo Big 5, our mate.

Can you name him off the top of your head?

Yeah, I hope so, because I fucking can't.

Orangutans.

Well done, number one.

Yeah, maybe pygmy elephants.

That's it, they're in there.

Yeah, another P Palm oil plantations.

No, they're all animals, Adam.

Well, I mean it would I be silly not to say the clouded Leopard is that.

No, that's too rare to include in the Big 50.

Really.

OK, interesting.

But you're right, a lot of them do begin with P.

Pygmy hippopotamus.

Is that a?

Bowser in Africa.

Wrong continent.

Cool.

Never mind, I'll I'll finish it off for you.

You've got orangutans, you've got pygmy elephants, you've got probosis monkeys.

All those things with the spoon.

Flappy floppy noses.

Yes, Adam, with the floppy noses.

Exactly.

You've got the rhinoceros hornbill.

Oh yes, an amazing bird.

Majestic.

And the crocodile.

Oh, a crocodile?

Wow, I didn't know that.

Yeah, that's wicked.

Very cool.

So you had a hit list.

Can you guess which of those I was most excited about?

Probably the orangutan.

Orangutan was the top.

Can you guess most, number one, most #2?

#2 what would I say?

I'd be embarrassed if I get this wrong.

Would it not be pygmy elephant?

I mean, they're fairly rare.

No, no, because everyone likes the elephants, and I love an elephant, but you know me, I love primates and apes.

So the monkey that you just criticized by saying I had a flabby nose?

Yeah.

Was something that was very high up my list indeed.

I'd often thought as a child, what if an animal was out there that looked a little bit like myth, but off a tree.

Oh fuck.

You know where'd you go from there?

You don't look like one of those monkeys, Alan.

My goodness.

You look more like a macaque.

Or what's a really good looking monkey?

Is there one?

What's a good looking monkey?

Probosis monkeys to me.

I like him, I think it's nice.

It's a sign of intelligence.

The ancient Greeks loved a big nose.

Was that the Romans?

Yeah, both.

I think everyone loves them.

We got on the river cruise, mate, and we're zipping down kind of Batangan River.

The first thing you see is a probosis monkey, because they're, like, ubiquitous.

They're everywhere.

Yeah, Yeah.

And everyone's like, oh, wow, probosis monkey.

I'm like putting my hand up at the front of the boat with my eye all bleeding out of this socket, and I go, excuse me, how many probosis monkeys are in a troop?

Excuse me?

Is the probosis itself a utility or is it just a secondary sexual characteristic?

Or, excuse me, are they highly territorial monkeys or does the female of the species have a smaller probosis?

Or just you select the males based on the size of their appendage.

And I just, I learned a lot mate.

I learned a lot about proboscis.

Monkey, you're the bopping at the back of the class.

Everyone was like, fuck, you know, who's this kid?

Yeah, that's amazing.

Go on.

Then you're going to share some details, then what's going on?

Yeah, I can tell you there is a secondary sexual characteristic, the proboscis monkey.

The larger the proboscis, the more attractive the monkey.

And when the tour guide told me that, I've never felt so justified and, you know, seen in my whole life because I've always been telling people that what's going on here is attractive.

Yeah, how bloody shallow all the different species are, right.

That's that's amazing, mate.

So a little boost of confidence, you know, forget the old eye.

Yeah, a little.

Boost of confidence and I got to see the first of the Borneo Big 5 and one of the ones I was most excited about seeing.

And so that's a good way to start off the cruise, isn't it?

Then you go back.

Yeah, wooing the female monkeys from afar.

Yeah, love it.

I'll.

Tell you what, the alpha males look terrified.

When they saw me coming down on the boat, they thought, what the hell is that?

They're already quaking in their boats.

That's amazing.

Some of what?

One of them, one of them.

They're like hiding their proboses in shame.

Oh God.

People at the front of the boat are looking at you going Blimey.

We're much closer to that monkey than I thought we were going to be on this tour just for 100.

Dollars.

I shouldn't have brought a wildlife lens.

I needed like a macro diving lens.

It's so close up.

I can't joke about it anymore, mate.

I love, I love your nose more than you probably do.

You know, you're a handsome devil and we all think you are.

But yeah, they're, they're funny looking creatures, the old, the old monkeys.

They are, yeah.

A.

Conic, you might say.

And they made for an exhausting first cruise.

So then you head back, you have dinner.

You also go on a on a night cruise, but that's a little bit different because you can't see any big fauna there.

So you're sort of looking at glow flies.

And we saw, you know, a few little budgerigars and parakeets and the remnants of what something might have been a crocodile, but didn't really see too much on the night cruise, so I went back to bed basically.

And then you start the whole damn thing again the next day.

The middle of the two days is the most action-packed because you've got the back half of the first day in the very beginning of the third day, but it's the second day that's packed full of stuff.

Amazing.

You didn't say a Kingfisher.

I remember seeing a Kingfisher when I was in Kinabatanga and that was something that was, you know, beautiful, beautiful bird.

Yeah, you can scarcely move the kingfishers out there actually.

So like maybe 5 or 6 different types of Kingfisher.

It's.

One of the small five, Yeah, yeah.

There's the big 5, there's a small 5, and all the small five are kingfishers, so.

Go on.

Then you've got to tell us what happened in the second day because I'm looking forward to it.

We're we're all thinking me and, and all of the listeners are thinking.

He hasn't mentioned an orangutan just yet.

Well, yeah, mate.

And the theme continued because the second day, every time you go on a cruise on the second day, you're thinking this is going to be the one where you see the orangutan.

And every time we did go on a cruise, we accrued more wonderful sights.

We saw a crocodile.

Take it off, baby.

We saw a rhinoceros home, Bill.

Oh, yeah, We saw a.

Well, we saw everything right apart from the pygmy elephant and the orangutan.

At one point, it's time for a little jungle trek.

So we park up the boat.

We start plodding through the jungle, but we have to turn back because the guide sees on the floor the unmistakable print of the most pygmy of all elephants.

You guessed it is the pygmy elephant.

It left the print so fresh that the guides were like, we simply can't progress because if a pygmy bull elephant sees you, it will ask questions later.

Oh dear.

OK, so the the sword just halted and then you're all thinking you're looking around.

You're looking.

Get back on the boat.

Yeah.

So safety amongst the Crocs.

Yeah, famously, they can't swim the pygmy elephants.

So what's a cliffhanger?

What's going on?

What's that?

What happens?

Next.

Well, I'm just pausing for a little while, you know, So we get back on the boat, we go back to the thing.

At this point, I don't want to go on and on and on and on about it.

But my eyes getting so bad that I abandoned the South and I just thought I luckily had some oral antibiotics in my bag and I was able to just to take them.

They were leftover from the time in the Philippines.

I had a foot infection.

So now I'm just like taking high strength amoxicillin and putting salve in my eye and it's just a real mess up there.

But thankfully I know now that I'm not going to lose my vision because I'm just on.

I've given of the strongest thing.

Yes, they're absolutely riddled with antibiotics, covered from head to toe, outside, inside, emanating from every orifice, I'm sure.

So now we're we've got one more cruise left.

OK, this is an end of day 2.

Is this is there one on day three or is it end of day 2?

This is end.

Of day 2, Day three, you've just got breakfast and you can pay for an additional cruise as an extra 10 bucks.

No, it seems like a good deal.

It also seems like the kind of kind of carrot, something else orange they would dangle to try and get a little bit of money out of you because they know there's maybe.

Well, exactly what's a group of rangs hands called?

I didn't know that once.

Do you know?

A brothel A thumb burg a.

Thumb.

Yeah, don't, don't ChatGPT that.

Let's just go with a brothel of orangutans.

Amazing.

Yeah.

So we went out on the very last cruise of the day.

Yeah.

And a new guy arrived at the hostel, a German guy.

He was wondering, you know, there's two types of Germans that I've noticed.

Yeah, one of them is like, yeah, we've got to go here and then here, and then we go on the cruise.

And it's very good place to see.

It's orangutan and the other type of German is like, oh, I'm just interested in taking a few pictures.

I'm interested in, you know, I've been sort of seeing a few animals recently and I quite like the ginger monkey.

He was the second type of German and he arrived in the hostel.

So now I had a friend.

I said, listen, I've slept on all of these beds apart from that one, so you take the one I've not slept on.

Amazing how kind of yeah, he put his bags there.

Now he's on his first day, I'm on the last cruise of the second day.

We head out together, We're on different boats.

OK.

Once again, an hour down the river, we fail to see an orangutan.

It's not great that $10 is looking ever so sweet.

Opportunity over, we meet for dinner.

Me and this girl that I was talking to, she's just sort of became my closest friend on the whole damn Kinder Batangan River.

We said, we can't believe it.

We've not seen the orangutan.

We see the German guy get off the boat and he goes, Oh my God, it was so great to see the most ginger of all the apes.

And we went.

You didn't.

He went yeah, did you not?

Oh dear.

You saw an orangutan your very first cruise, he said.

Yeah, I saw a whole family of orangutan, baby orangutan, adult orangutan of the both male and the female variety.

Pimp who was running the brothel.

We saw the whole family, so I mean, I was enraged.

Yeah, I mean, it's difficult in those circumstances to just be completely happy for someone else and seeing something that was so incredible because you had yet seen one.

So I do feel that pain, even though, you know, there'll be people listening to this and probably us listening back thinking, well, it's great for them that they saw one, but you kind of feel like they saw one at your expense.

I was happy for him, but I, I quickly went to the owners of the lodge and said, listen, you got to get me on that.

You got to get me on that trip tomorrow.

And they said it's perfect because the German boats saw orangutans.

We know where their nest is.

So we'll be line for that nest at 5:00 tomorrow morning.

And I said book me in baby.

And they said we've not got any spaces.

And I said find a couple of spaces then because I'm really fucking skinny and my nose can just hang off the front of the boat so I actually don't take off much room.

Did I mention I've got a travel podcast?

They said, all right, we'll find you a space, we'll get you on the boat, just pay us some money.

So I paid him some money, went to sleep, my eyes healing at a Wolverine nest.

Great, fueled only by amoxicillin and willpower, and get on the boat in the morning.

Bee lying down Kinder Batangan Riverhead to the nest where the German saws it.

Baby orangutan and they're in the tree.

I see my very first wild ginger as the day it was born.

Adolescent orangutan.

Oh my goodness, how wonderful.

Yeah.

Well, what were the emotions you were you were feeling in that moment?

Because it sounds like quite a journey to get there.

Yeah, both emotionally and and quite literally.

And medically?

Medically, yeah.

Dude they so cool The arboreal ginger ape, the tree dwelling creature that moves slowly from branch to branch so as to avoid detection by potential predator, knowing that the adolescent was in fact joined by a mother and a father who were deeper in the forest but it come to the Riverside get in collecting like little bits of leaves off the tree.

Such a fascinating intelligent creature that have a sort of culture of their own.

When an orangutan sees an orangutan which it it wants to say hello to, it will pick off food stuff and blow them like not as an instinct, but as a like a cultural practice.

They're so intelligent and so refine these apes to see the majesty of this creature up in the tree.

I was blown away by it.

And I looked around the boat as if to say, God, you know what kind of an experience we haven't?

The girl that I was friends with when I can't believe the other guy saw three orangutans.

Oh, you're joking.

She was emotional, actually.

She was where?

Was she from just out of interest?

She's from the UK.

She's from the UK.

Was it not like a dry sense of humour kind of comical timing?

I.

Was, I think she was actually quite tearful.

She was so excited to see the orangutan, but as soon as she said that, I thought that was a great punchline.

That is amazing mate.

I I was right there with you and I'm sure we all were, but I remember when I was looking was watching the orangutan so so sort of so close, so much closer than I expected all those years ago.

I remember thinking to myself, how on earth is that not a human in a suit?

They are so human like it were your breathtaking stuff on if you've not if you've not seen one in the wild, it it really is quite something.

I don't know if you've if you felt so you were your stomach going or was it like a you were jumping for joy because you'd succeeded in your.

No my my eye felt quite sore but I had no digestive symptoms.

But you know what I mean though, I mean, you'd all, you'd all shared that sort of experience together as maybe a sense of community.

There was a German actually on on my trip who was maybe also the second type of German you mentioned who took 220 photos in 45 minutes, if my memory serves me correctly.

So I hope you got some bloody decent shots with this this.

By way of the German who was a photographer and a bloody nice chap and a really interesting guy who's developing a travel app and he's like really, really cool.

I like that German a lot.

That's how I know I can sort of do an impression of someone if I'd like that.

And he went, I'm so happy for you.

As you saw the ginger ape.

I'll give you all of my pictures I have over, you know, he took a lot of them and they're really, really beautiful.

So we'll share some of those snapshots.

Dude, Really, really good and very different to the experience of cephalon.

It's a really different thing to see an orangutan in the wild.

That's my first wild ape.

I famously passed up on the opportunity to see gorillas in Uganda because I was so put off by the $600.00 minimum conservation fee.

So my first wild ape and by proxy my best wild aim.

That's amazing mate.

I'm very very happy for you hopefully as it's it's inspired you to go and see more.

I do share your sentiments.

When you are paying huge sums of money to go and see what is essentially sort of something in the wild can be difficult to to navigate, especially if you're travelling on a budget.

So glad that extra $10 got you the the jackpot.

There was something nice about seeing it in the nick of time as well.

I always think that seeing a wild animal, if it's hard to see it, it's somehow more rewarding in the sense that like, you know, I've tried to see wild tigers now on 4 separate occasions.

I've dumped a lot of money into seeing wild tigers and never have.

And I just know when I see a wild tiger for the first time, I was all the more excited as a result.

So I'm so happy that I got to see an orangutan at the end there.

Yeah, much cheaper, much cheaper to go to a zoo and see all these things, of course.

Yeah, or indeed a brothel.

So I.

Could stay in, That's lovely.

So I decided my eye was all healed.

The Super fantastic.

Seeing the ginger ape.

Yeah, Cipidan.

The diving spot is closed for the month of November to repair the reef.

To repair the reef.

Just let it cure itself and exactly at midnight on the 30th of November, it's done, it's healed, it's back to normal.

No one ask any questions.

Dive there again, spend your money.

So they're repairing Cipidan at the moment, so I can't go there.

And I decide, look at that, just there.

I don't count countries, mate, but there's one other country that resides here on the island of Borneo that I haven't been to.

Do you know what it is?

I do, it also begins with AB.

It's Brunei, I thought.

Let me see what happens if I tiptoe over to Brunei by way of Labour one.

I was going to do it by ferry because the bus trip is really long, just the same price and you get 7 passports copped for it because you have to go from from Saba to Sarawak to Brunei, out of Brunei again, back into Saba, then to Brunei.

I didn't want to cop the passport stamps.

I didn't want to cop the seven hours.

I thought I'd get a ferry lab 1 Brunei.

That's on the next episode.

Now, though, we want to hear from a listener about their greatest travel story in an item that you like to call Tales of the Trip.

So I found myself in Vietnam.

It was me and my friend.

We were about 1 1/2 months into a three month trip around Asia.

We've done Thailand, Vietnam and now we were going the next country was going to be Bali, but we're in Vietnam.

We're about halfway up and we bought these motorbikes.

We thought we were the the dogs bollocks.

I'm sorry.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure if I can swear but I'm sure you guys will edit this out.

We thought we were the dogs bollocks.

We sprayed them our own colours.

We like like graffiti all over them.

They looked class.

Mine was baby pink and like I think like light blue or something.

It just looked awesome.

And obviously it wasn't like it didn't look like a moped.

They look like motorbikes.

Even though they're only they're only 5050CC.

Is it 60CC?

I'm not really sure.

But anyway, they're weak.

They're the lowest CC you could get.

Fast forward, we meet these two girls, they're both English girls with my best friend and we convince these girls we're like guys, let's go on this this trip N together.

And in Vietnam, everyone goes north to South or South to north.

It's a long skinny country and they're like, OK, sounds good.

So let's, let's, let's do this trip together.

So we have these two smoking hot babes.

They're on their mopeds and me and my friend run out.

We're on our motorbikes.

And we were their plan was to go up and go through all the way up through Vietnam and stop along the way.

And it was going to be this beautiful adventure anyway, let's say like day 2, day three, something like that.

I'm going down the road and I'm following my best friend and I get a puncture in my tire and I realise that the tyre needs replacing.

So luckily someone just in the area was literally right there.

They come out, they, they re, they, they give me a new tyre, I pay the money, blah blah blah.

Everything's fine.

What they didn't tell me or because obviously there's a language barrier, is, is that when you replace a tyre, you should drive it.

You shouldn't go straight onto the motorway because it's oily.

You should drive it round like local streets and and that sort of stuff.

First me not knowing this and I go straight back onto the motorway and as I'm as I'm trying to catch up with my friend, I'm going a little bit faster.

I think I see somewhere that he's pulled into so I put on the brakes.

The whole bike comes to a screeching hole.

The back wheel flies out.

I fly off and tumble, tumble, tumble.

The bike's tumbling, tumbling somehow from some freaky coming like from freak, freak of nature.

I end up standing up and I'm standing up and the I look over the and the bike is still, the bike is still like tumbling, so the bike's still got momentum.

I look down at my leg.

It's absolutely piercing blood.

It's crazy.

Loads of locals come out to me.

They throw water all over me.

Anyway, I've only got 30 seconds.

So what do I have to do?

I have to wait there for my friend to come back.

I had no phone signal at all.

This is before the times of I guess like phone service over there if you're a tourist.

I have to wait for my friend to come back.

I was smoking cigarettes to come back.

My time's running out and I had to wait on the side of the road and hitchhike back with his broken bike until someone came and let me put the bike on the back of their van to drive back to the nearest city.

It was traumatic.

I had to go to the hospital.

Cheers guys.

Well done Tom, there clocking in.

Of course when you submit a Tales of trip, the trip, you've got just three minutes, so well done on sticking to the schedule.

A wonderful story, of course, falling victim to that which claims many travellers.

It's a motorbike moped experience crash in Vietnam, Yeah.

I imagine there are thousands of people listening to this who will be able to relate to that story.

Tomo, thanks ever so much for sending in the story.

Amazing, very well told.

It's it's just one of those and it mate where you never think it's going to be you.

Well, especially when you're neglected to be told about an oily tire.

I'd be very upset.

I would be like Tom, I would RIP back onto the motorway with that greasy, greasy wheel and not expect anything to happen.

But I do empathise with that experience.

I've told before the story on the pod when I came off my bike and similar to Tom, had no cell phone reception and there's a unique feeling of just having to wait, injured at the side of the road, thinking at some point my friends will realise that I'm not behind them.

I don't know when that will be, but at that point they will backtrack, expecting to find a bleeding version of me.

So you've just got to wait, haven't you really?

Yeah, I mean, the thing with those with these incidents, and even though this seems like it wasn't Tomo's fault, I mean, it was just due to the information he didn't have available to him.

And it was just one of those things.

It was a a shame.

It sounds like he, I don't know whether it's he's told the story in detail to kind of save the listeners, but I, I bet it was pretty gruesome if the villagers were coming out and dousing him with water to try and wash off the blood and that sort of stuff.

I bet the the cut or wound or whatever he had as a result of the crash was pretty rank.

I think if we'd given him 4 minutes, we'd have got an extra minute of like blood and gore.

Oh, there were veins hanging out of my calf.

Yeah, incredibly descriptive and graphic, but but I think what people should take away from Tom's story or or kind of extrapolate from it I guess, is that usually, not in Tom's case, but usually when backpackers are racing round, let's say Southeast Asia or South America, wherever on mopeds or motorbikes and they do have accidents, it's usually because they've been driving like dickheads.

Yeah, or they've just not wiped down the wheel with the kitchen towel or something similar before getting on the motorbike.

But definitely that when I crashed in in Vietnam it was because I categorically didn't know how to ride a moped or a motorbike as a 21 year old thought.

Probably can though.

Yeah, I mean, you, you definitely can.

It is within your capabilities.

But maybe, maybe sort of a week, a week's training in say, Hanoi, where I learned to ride my motorbike.

Oh, it's not to.

Say or even an hour would have benefited me.

Yeah, I mean, when I think of the sort of shit that we got up to on on my motorbike, because I did almost exactly the same, I imagine it was very similar to the trip that Tom did up and down, up and down Vietnam.

I spent two months on a motorbike and I mean I haven't told my mom this, but I nearly lost my life.

So they they are incredibly dangerous, but they are an immense amount of fun and I struggle to think of a better way to experience a country, especially one like Vietnam, than buy a motorbike.

So yeah, take care, but my God are they fun.

I agree with you, Adam, and thank you, Tom, very much for sending that story in.

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