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Speaker 2Well.
Speaker 3It's nine am at summer camp.
Speaker 4This morning at the tile well, and I fell.
Speaker 5Asleep about fifty kids and teens from kindergarten to high school or getting ready to start the day, and in the.
Speaker 4Money, I was tiled.
But then it's excited when.
Speaker 5The campers are carrying lunchboxes and walking into this brightly lit space where the walls and windows are covered in.
Speaker 3Drawing, It's back to you.
Speaker 6A handful of.
Speaker 5Kids find a table and they quickly start a game of Oh no.
Speaker 7You guys are cooked.
Speaker 3Stop say that.
Speaker 5Some of the kids are coloring quietly with the counselors, and a group of middle school girls are sitting in the corner sipping out of pink water bottles.
Speaker 7The pea cheating off the straff.
Speaker 5But the counselors are wearing these colorful name tags and red whistles around their necks.
This is a community with a large immigrant population, so they're switching between English and Spanish.
How at a glance, this looks like a typical summer camp, but for the kids here, this summer has been anything but normal.
We're not going to tell you where this camp is or what anyone's name is in order to ensure their safety.
And remember those red whistles around the councilor's next.
They have a very specific purpose.
They're the first line of defense against ice.
If a federal agent shows up at camp, they'll blow the whistle.
A counselor tells us that this is part of a carefully designed plan that volunteers and campers have been practicing like a fire drill.
Speaker 8We have two outdoor monitors, we have door monitors.
We have a campus monitor that's just keeping an eye out.
We took down our signage, taped up paper on the walls.
We're going to have some of the students draw on it.
But that's an ice measure.
Speaker 5These children and teens are some of the over four million US citizens under the age of eighteen who live with at least one undocumented parent, and for them Trump's mass deportation campaign.
Speaker 3Feels like it's at the front door of their lives, even in safe havens like camp.
Speaker 6This is a my drowning of a cat.
Speaker 7So the camp was living in a neighborhood in a box because his family went to go on fine Field and they got lost.
Even the bodda trying to find the family, the mom and dad, and he also got lost.
He felt nervous, sad.
He was crying because she didn't found his family.
Speaker 1From Fudurrobibia.
It's Latino USA.
I'm Maria and your horsa today a summer vacation like no other.
Summer came as ICE increasingly began to target undocumented people with no criminal record whatsoever.
We wanted to know what summer break looks like for US citizen children of undocumented immigrant parents, the millions of American kids who live in fear that their own parents could be taken by ICE.
We take you to two places.
The camp that you just heard about.
We're also going to introduce you to a teenage girl who's navigating her final summer before starting college.
We're going to hear in their own words, what it's like to grow up in the backdrop of Trump's America in the summer of twenty twenty five.
I'm going to pass the mic back to producer Ariel Goodman, who's going to take us now to meet the teenage girl, Sophie.
Speaker 3No sorry, Sophie is practicing parallel parking.
Speaker 5She's in this sprawling parking lot outside of a mall.
Speaker 3She's getting ready for her driver's test.
Speaker 9I'm I used to parking in parking lots, so that's what we're doing right now.
Speaker 6We're practicing in a parking lot.
Speaker 5This is a mile stone that she's been working towards for months, and it's one that's required sixty five hours of driving practice with her dad, Ba.
Speaker 10Ba And as you can imagine, it hasn't always been pretty.
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Speaker 6We get into fights, but he's a good teacher.
Speaker 9Like we might scream at each other, but like at the end, I'm a better driver regardless.
Speaker 5Sophie's dad is undocumented and he's been in the US longer than he ever lived in Mexico, where he was born.
Speaker 3He was Sophie's age when he first came here, really close.
Speaker 5He was working these long night shifts at a bakery, and he didn't have a license back then, but he needed to drive in order to get to work, so he would risk it.
Speaker 9Me as an eighteen year old, I can't imagine like not being able to have your license where you're driving, Like that's really hard.
Speaker 6Even with my permit, it still feels really scary.
Speaker 3Sophie is a US citizen, she was born here.
Speaker 9But still I could be a really good driver, but once that police car comes behind me, everything comes out the window.
Because I'm with my dad or I'm with my mom, Like they could take my mom, they could take my dad, they could take me, because racial biases are all the same.
You see me, you see my mom, you see my dad.
The common denominator is that we're in Mexican, and like, I don't want to be detained, but knowing there's about possibility when you go outside, it's hard for me to enjoy my summer.
Speaker 5Sophie is not alone in this feeling.
In fact, the reason we're telling you her story is because of just how common this is.
It's also the reason that we're not telling you what city were in, or the names of anyone else in her family come.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 5Sophie's dad shares this sense of unease.
It's one of the main reasons he's teaching his daughter to drive this summer.
Speaker 11The then was mio Qui Juan.
Speaker 5He and his wife are scared of being taken by ice, but their biggest concern is what would happen to their daughter's life if they were.
Speaker 3Taken Sophie.
Speaker 11Suela.
Speaker 5Sophie's dad says that teaching her how to drive means that if the worst were to happen, he would at least know that she could get herself to college or drive herself to doctor's appointments.
Speaker 11Maybe maibe in Sofia Hey practical.
Speaker 5Sophie's dad has worked in construction for over a decade, and last year, the owner of the construction company where he works voted for Trump, and soon after the inauguration.
Speaker 11Lost problem say especially.
Speaker 5His boss called him.
He told him it's best that you stay home.
Once things quote calm down, we can get back to work.
Speaker 11I didn't lose my job, it was just like the person I was working he know, feels safe for me.
Speaker 6Well, you're no longer working with him, though he's not giving you pay leave like he fired you.
Papa.
Speaker 11If he's afraid that when somebody call the police, I could get the party.
So he's he's not he's no one on his on his conscient He.
Speaker 6Doesn't want to lose his most valuable worker, basically.
But I find kind of.
Speaker 3Suspicious.
Speaker 9If I feel comfortable because my dad likes his boss, I guess, But me personally, I am giving him this.
It's giving situationship like you're not getting any of the benefits.
You're just doing his work.
Speaker 3N he didn't value you.
Speaker 5At this point, Sophie has practiced parallel parking over twenty times.
Under the beating hot sun.
She parks and gets out her log book from the glove compartment.
It's filled with these carefully handwritten entries that log every time her and her dad have practice driving this summer.
She logs her practice session and then she realizes she's reached the sixty five hours that she needs to get her license.
Speaker 6Everything's good right now, life is good.
Speaker 9Yeah, as completion for my sixty five hours of driving, We're going to the Mexican ice cream place.
Speaker 6Yes, it's a tree for both of us.
She built love.
Speaker 5We drive to the ice cream store and walk in.
Sophie and her dad are excited.
They say that this shop is the best one in town.
Speaker 6Well, I like their Bubblegum flavor ice cream.
Speaker 3It's really good.
Speaker 6My mom likes her on us.
Speaker 5As we wait for our order, all of our eyes drift to the TV hanging in the back wall of the shop.
Speaker 3It's a national newscast from Univision.
Speaker 5A councilman from Los Angeles is describing this massive ice rate that just took place amidst the uprisings in LA over the summers, and so they're taking workers, the councilman says, people with families and deep roots in this country.
They're entering churches without Warrantsrero's.
Speaker 7Familias he is.
Speaker 3Ada for young people like Sophie.
This summer sort of looks like any other.
Speaker 5It's filled with long, hot days, fun moments with friends, some boredom.
But in the background of day to day life is this sense of profound and encroaching fear that a parent and life as they know it could get taken away from them at any moment.
Speaker 1Coming up on Latino USA.
As ice raids swept small towns and big cities across the country this summer, we ended up speaking with experts about the trauma that children experience when they're forced to live in a state of fear about their parents' safety.
Stay with us, Yes, hey, we're back.
Before the break, we heard from Sophie.
She's a teenager navigating summer vacation amidst the fear of ice.
And as the season went on, ice raids continued to intensify, sending shockwaves through many immigrant communities.
Producer Ariel Goodman takes us back to the summer camp now that we visited at the top of the show, and we're going to try to understand how the kids there are making sense of it all.
Speaker 5This summer's ice raids followed a similar playbook.
Dramatic videos show federal agents detaining day laborers and home depot parking lots, and chasing farm workers across fields.
Groups of masked officers swarming in and picking people up off the streets, shoving them into unmarked cars, Massive groups of armed agents descending on workplaces.
Speaker 6Vice agents swarming all the gates.
Speaker 3Here at the car wash, grabbing some of the workers as they dried cars.
Speaker 5It didn't matter if it was a small town or a big city.
Each raid started to feel more militarized than the previous one, and the ripple effects could be felt everywhere.
Back at summer camp, the same one we visited.
At the beginning of this piece, a high schooler is celebrating her birthday.
The camp's director is checking in with the over fifty campers, whose ages run from kindergarten to high school, as if there.
Speaker 12Is something that worried you today or the warriors this week.
Speaker 3Is past.
Speaker 5I'm afraid they'll take my parents away.
It's a common feeling at this summer camp.
According to the camp's director, whose name we're not going to use in order to protect him and everyone else.
Speaker 12We know that in the town there has been high levels of anxiety by the presence of eyes in which lately has been showing as a militarized police.
That image is really terrorizing because it's people who are coming equip with many weapons on them.
And I think one of the losses is normality.
Normality to go for chopping, normality, to put the kids to the school boss, normality used to walk as a family in the park, the normality to have fun, and the kids are feeling unsafe.
Of course, they are not blind.
They listen, they see they understand what is happening around.
Speaker 5In order to understand what young people in the US are going through right now, I spoke to experts who study the effects of war on children.
One of them was a cousin of mine, clinical child psychologist doctor Andrea Goodman Hansel, whose doctoral research focused on the kind of trauma that children carry when they survive things like a holocaust, a war, or a natural disaster.
Speaker 6After a natural disaster, people can say to a child, Okay, the hurricane is over, it's not going to hit here again.
Speaker 7You are safe.
Speaker 3We're going to build from here.
Speaker 5But children worried about their parents getting to have no sense of relief.
She says that living in this state of unknowing produces a kind of chronic PTSD that leads kids to lose trust in the world itself.
It was something that the dozens of kids that I spoke to for this piece were managing in different ways, but they were all reckoning with something similar, a loss of the idea that the world is a safe place.
Speaker 2I just hope my parents don't like get taken away, or like they don't get caught something like that, because it's sad seeing how others get their parents taken away, and I like every crime for them.
Speaker 9Mostly all the summer i've been home, I haven't really been going places.
My family's like worried when they go outside because of ice could be anywhere.
Speaker 7Sometimes my dad showed my mom videos stuff ice the police deporting people.
Were scared that the police comes to our block and knock on all the doors and checked up their immigrants or not.
One time I dreamed about the police coming in our house and they got our parents, and then all my cousins started crying.
I jumped off my bed and I started running to my mom's room because I was scared, and then then I walked them up.
Speaker 6And what's your message to other kids who are going.
Speaker 11Through this.
Speaker 7If they get like nervous, like, don't get shy and breathing and reale and continue what you was doing.
Speaker 5Okay, let's see you do it.
Speaker 1We'll be right back.
Yes, hey, we're back.
Before the break, we heard directly from some of the more than four million US citizen kids who are grappling with the looming terror of Trump's immigration policies.
We're going to go back now to Sophie, who's the teenager that we last heard from when she was practicing for her driver's test, and our producer Ariel Goodman is going to take it from here.
Speaker 5For Sophie, this was a summer of milestones, and it started with her high school graduation.
Speaker 9I was scared of walking up on the stage.
Those heels were really killing me.
I was thinking, Wow, I'm finishing high school.
I'm going out to college.
Speaker 5Sophie's mom grew up in Mexico and this was a scene that she had only ever watched in movies from the US JOOI and Fendicula Mexico Quelos Studiente s at savan suvirete, the classic scene of smiling teenagers throwing their caps up into the air.
So soon, Sophie will be the first member of her family to go to college, where she plans to study immigration law.
Speaker 3This means a lot to Sophie's mom.
Speaker 5When she first got here, she was undocumented, she was navigating a new country, she didn't speak the language, and she often felt like she couldn't give her daughter the support she needed at school.
But on top of getting a high school diploma, Sophie also received a special recognition from the school district for being a bilingual student.
She was being recognized for something that her mom taught her her Spanish.
Speaker 13Medioma mil ingua la manela and let me be that la mandela, let me carrassan maybe the then tu san diaz, india frutos.
Speaker 9I know she was ashamed of her Spanish when she came here, but now I'm like, wow, I am getting recognized that I can speak Spanish.
Speaker 5A few days after graduation, Sophie's family and friends gathered to celebrate in a park and.
Speaker 9We were pairing for the party and we were all setting up and like there's a lot of police activity because I heard like ambulances and stuff.
I was like, ooh, I don't know what's happening there.
And then we saw a band and I was like, whoa a band?
And then I saw I was like, oh, white my heart saying because like how how myself was to react?
I was scared, but like, thankfully it wasn't any Ice fans, but it's still kind of like made me remember, like you're not really safe even if you're celebrating the best moments.
Speaker 5You know, throughout Sophie's summer, that fear hung at the edges of her everyday life.
Speaker 3Like a distant ghost.
I'm about go to college.
Speaker 9I want to go to the pool.
I want to hang out with my boyfriend.
I want to hang out with my friends like I want to be a teenager.
I want to get in trouble with my parents, not with the Department of Homeland Security, you know, or ice.
Speaker 5But still, Sophie moved forward with her summer despite the fear.
She celebrated her eighteenth birthday this then it was time for a long awaited moment.
Speaker 11Okay, it's fuss.
Speaker 9Right now, we're in my car or my dad's car, because we are going to my exam for driving.
Speaker 5On a rainy morning, Sophie gripped the steering wheel and she drove with her parents to take her driver's license test.
We got to the offices, Sophie registered with an instructor and then got into the car that despite her being kind of embarrassed about it, her parents were both filming the whole thing on their cell phones with huge smiles on their faces.
Speaker 13Uh.
Speaker 5She pulled out of the parking lot and her mom and dad waited, but when she came back, she was crying.
Speaker 3She didn't pass.
Speaker 5Okay, you're strong, her dad tells her.
This isn't going to break you.
You get three chances, it's gonna be fine.
Sophie moved on with her summer, but in the background, the Trump administration's attacks on immigrants continued to intensify.
Parents trying to drop off their kids at school watched as Ice agents handcuffed a woman just a block away from the playground.
As the end of the summer approached, All of this was in the back of Sophie's mind as she prepared to leave home and go to college.
Speaker 9It feels wrong because you assume, I guess a child, that your parents would protect you no matter what.
But what happens when they can't protect you, and what happens when they leave you?
How am I going to support myself if I don't know how to?
Speaker 5Sophie took her driver's test again, and this time she passed and got her license.
Then, as often happens during summer vacation, it was like you close your eyes and all of a sudden.
Speaker 2Good morning.
Speaker 3How is everybody exciting done?
It's freshman drop off day at college.
Speaker 5The dorm is filled with families taking pictures and accompanying slightly lost looking students as they move in Sophie's dad carries these huge boxes of shoes.
Speaker 3And bedding up two flights of stairs.
Speaker 5Her mom is carefully disinfecting the drawers of the dorm room bureau and neatly putting her clothes away.
After they finish, Sophie and her mom hug and start to crack.
Her dad is filming the whole thing and trying to get her to smile.
You're gonna try your best and build something better for yourself, he says.
Then he makes her send a message to someone who will also miss her, their dog Max.
Speaker 11Okay, I love you.
Speaker 3Back at camp, the kids are also getting ready to say goodbye.
Speaker 4Tell us what we're doing right now?
We're going to see The river is.
Speaker 2At night.
Speaker 4It might look scary, but to me, it kind of looks beautiful.
And there's leaves, trees, grass, birds, animals in a river.
Speaker 5The path that we're walking on is this tunnel of green forest.
It's the kind of place where everything around us looks and feels alive.
Speaker 4You're just did to see butterflies and birds.
Speaker 6What do you think it's like to be them.
Speaker 2Sad whore?
Speaker 7Because what if like they lose their family member, or like what if their home gets chopped down because they live in trees.
Speaker 5I spent this whole summer talking to young people, hearing different versions of a similar painful story.
Their sense of home, of safety is getting taken away.
It's like everyone forgot that.
Just outside the frame of the news report or the ral video, there are children there and they're a part of this story too.
Speaker 7Birds really need home, Like they make nests, and maybe like in the nest there's their baby, and people just like chopped down the trees or something.
Speaker 4So I feel bad for the babies.
They just got born and they could have seen the world and like other stuff.
Speaker 5One hundred and eighty thousand people have been deported since Trump took office in January, and countless more have been taken to immigration detention camps, and this administration shows no signs of slowing down its mass deportation campaign.
Speaker 3The quote Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 5That passed by Congress in July has allocated an extraordinary seventy five billion dollars to ICE.
That's more than the entire military buzzy for almost every country in the world.
But still, in every conversation with kids, you can feel them blossoming.
They're discovering the world and asserting their place within it.
And if you listen closely, you can hear them imagining a future that they are a part of and inviting us all to help them build it.
Speaker 4If you could say, like a message to the world, or would it be My message is to let it grow.
Speaker 7Don't chop off the trees, because you never know when burn us are in there or birds are in there.
Speaker 1This episode was produced by Ariel Goodman.
It was edited by Seer Quevedo and Latino USA's managing editor Fernanda Echavarri.
It was mixed by Julia Caruso.
Fact checking for this episode by Rosanna Aguire.
Our cover art was created by Josse Ortis Pagan special thanks to Ramiro aguilad Villa Marin and Maria del Garmin.
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