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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to, too long, did read it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's favorite investigation into the secrets, the rumors, the conspiracies, the long lost historical data of Reddit.

[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.

[SPEAKER_00]: So in the cloud.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's in the class and I'm like some old timey like rocks.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so like tablets hyperglyphics.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, someone buried them in a backyard and another person.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was it a yard at that time when it was buried?

[SPEAKER_00]: Good question.

[SPEAKER_00]: Good question.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, it was the first field that the humans ever plowed.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty exciting.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Why did I just, there's something about, oh, I was listening to someone break down Ben Shapiro's new book and it was basically just like about how some people are lions, some people are scavengers and some people are prey or something and it was that like lions are scavengers.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's not [SPEAKER_04]: Well, no, no, if given the chance, no one would hunt, not even, that's what plowing the fields you're meant to be of, because it's a lot of energy to hunt, and you just get one little meal.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's better to sort of wander around, look for things that are already dead, and then eat those.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's less work.

[SPEAKER_01]: see I recently got an argument with my father at the zoo because he said that he would be very afraid if he saw vultures nearby and I said I wouldn't be afraid if I saw vultures nearby because they're not going to attack me that means there are that something's already dead you're good to go right like I would be more afraid of like a hawk or like an aggressive bird than a [SPEAKER_00]: Are they lazy or they just sigging there?

[SPEAKER_00]: There's not their scavenging there, their energy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but I feel like the bird that is least likely to attack you is a vulture.

[SPEAKER_04]: Agreed.

[SPEAKER_04]: The, um, uh, yesterday I was walking beans and a guy came out of his house, young guy and was like, hey, don't walk on this street.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's a coyote.

[SPEAKER_04]: and it was like waiting outside to like warn people and he was wearing a it was really nice and he was wearing a hat that said fuck Donald Trump and he was like a very nervously on his phone and I could tell he like didn't quite know what to do other than like warn every dog away seemed really overwhelmed [SPEAKER_01]: That's a man who cares about community.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably like on his phone, like, send in messages on, like, one of his lights.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And don't come on the street with your dog.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: I should have been more grateful.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I was so taken aback.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then I mean, beans ran to beans is coyote bait for sure.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: One swallow.

[SPEAKER_04]: One swallow.

[SPEAKER_04]: And he's not fighting.

[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's stupid.

[SPEAKER_04]: so I was like grateful to that.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was like the ghost of of like maybe that man doesn't even exist.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was just like a young cute man in a fucked Donald Trump hat, like nervously texting on his phone.

[SPEAKER_04]: He had been killed by a coyote years ago in 2016 because fucked Donald Trump would still be relevant.

[SPEAKER_04]: I should have looked at what kind of phone he had.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's, that's you be really based in reality.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I also think I have the same phone I had in 2016.

[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't upgraded my phone in so long.

[SPEAKER_00]: Go.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's 26.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's been more like 2020.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like they make it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So they don't even work that long.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mine is big.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Get a new one.

[SPEAKER_00]: My phone longs have had one.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just nothing wrong with it.

[SPEAKER_01]: The battery life is still good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everything's still good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_01]: incredible.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, speaking of things that are not good, let's head over to the subreddit mildly infuriating.

[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: And someone shares this rejection email for the application update for a position.

[SPEAKER_01]: Certain things are blocked out.

[SPEAKER_01]: It says, hi, thank you for applying to redacted.

[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, we will not be moving forward with your application at this time.

[SPEAKER_01]: quote, write a warm but generic rejection email that sounds polite, yet firm.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do not mention specific reasons for rejection.

[SPEAKER_01]: Make the candidate feel like they were strongly considered, even if they weren't.

[SPEAKER_01]: Remember to use candidate name and company name variables.

[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate your interest, redacted, and wish you all the best with your future endeavors.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, I'm seeing so much of that, oh God, this is just going to be the new like reply all by accident type thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's just going to be this [SPEAKER_01]: And that actually really fucks me up because the idea that companies are making you think you were strongly considered even if you were.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see the point in doing that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Why do that to somebody?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you don't learn anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe they're afraid of retaliation or something.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think that's a good company practice.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't really, I mean, I always appreciate when people post their rejection emails from like submitting writing because especially if the email is like, here's what I would change.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, there you go.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's kind.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, or like, I like the writing, but this isn't right for the market play something give some reason.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but if yeah, when you're just like, you are so you are so close, but didn't quite make it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, what do you do with that?

[SPEAKER_01]: And then for that to only actually be like, because you weren't close.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.

[SPEAKER_04]: I got a rejection email address to a completely different person.

[SPEAKER_04]: They repeatedly referred to me as Daniel.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then someone said the acceptance letter to my master's program addressed me as Pam.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a dude.

[SPEAKER_04]: My name is not Pam.

[SPEAKER_04]: Does that mean you're saying he took it in or he took somebody's spot or they just saying spot or or they sent Pam and him the same email but he was he was in they just forgot to change the name You know what's interesting that I worried that people have not figured out is that when you write something and then you copy from another thing and you paste it in [SPEAKER_04]: It's like purple.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a different font.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's got like if you're going to pitch me and you're going to like have your generic opening and then purple font for your like whatever thing you wrote like come on at least change the font, but the thing is sometimes that you can't see it until after it sends so when you copy paste things if you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Put it into your email.

[SPEAKER_00]: It might not look like that until you hit send.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I always highlight and then hit the little T with the X to clear it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: The what's the T with the X.

[SPEAKER_01]: At the bottom of your email, there's a little T with a little X next to it, and it clears out any form adding for you because I have this issue, where when I send my confirmation emails to my clients, a lot of times it will make it purple to us, you know, I'm not rewriting, I'm not, you know, recreating the wheel every time I'm confirming a date, but I try and I go and I make it so that the purple is black again, but sometimes it doesn't hold.

[SPEAKER_00]: You got to do that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it says, no, no, Alison, we, they'll see right through you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_01]: But TX.

[SPEAKER_01]: So when do I do the TX after you've paced it in and you're like, this looks good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Go, just highlight and then hit that at the bottom.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is huge.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad we do this podcast.

[SPEAKER_01]: That really suits my life.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is one of those things where I've thought about it and I'm like, how individualized do these messages like need to be, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, just yeah, like, well, obviously, like, if I'm communicating with the client about something, they're, I'm responding to what they're actually talking about, but it's a confirmation email, like, you know, and, and I thought about like, do I, like, create some sort of like system that sends it out automatically or knew I just do it myself, but then it's like, clearly the same thing each time.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, these are like the weird parts of having a little business.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think you could do like a form.

[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't be upset by that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what's so funny is I'm doing pelvic floor therapy starting on Monday and I cannot tell you the amount of confirmation messages, email, I message, I don't like that at all.

[SPEAKER_04]: I do not like that at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's such overkill.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's also like I got it.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is a weird one where I got the message.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like send end to cancel.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then there was no sense to confirm.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would be so nervous, and the amount that they've checked in on me about this, I'm like, you seem like a company that would want to see to confirm.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's literally, okay, I was telling you about this that I was doing a book event for someone and the amount of emails.

[SPEAKER_04]: The amount of emails for a one hour book review book book event, a Zoom, there's no need to tell me where to go.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, it was like, I'm not joking, probably 45 emails.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was, is that the one that you just did?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they also had the bad with money, email address, so I amount all emails too.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, why are they sitting on all these emails?

[SPEAKER_04]: What is that?

[SPEAKER_04]: and let me try something it's if it's like an eight hour shoot and you have like multiple lines and you're like whatever all of this stuff that's like so intense and you have to like climb them out and get their mobile they'll like barely send half an email a day of your like what's my script [SPEAKER_04]: an hour and hour book event 45 emails.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's never it's always the thing that is so intensive that people are like impossible to get a hold of and that it's like the most minor thing that people want like to just like nitpick and have 45 meetings about.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: How did it go?

[SPEAKER_01]: Fine.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.

[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't interrupt in the middle and go.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is not what we talked about, Gabe.

[SPEAKER_04]: I truly [SPEAKER_04]: No, it was like really good.

[SPEAKER_04]: She's very interesting.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, yeah, there were a lot.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was for CUNY, so there were a lot of people there.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, this is successful.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_04]: How many people?

[SPEAKER_04]: There was like 30 people in the Zoom.

[SPEAKER_04]: So that was pretty good.

[SPEAKER_04]: She's a professor.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, yeah, the book is good.

[SPEAKER_04]: You got a locked in audience.

[SPEAKER_04]: Why are we stressing?

[SPEAKER_01]: Remember when I was a professor?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Of comedy.

[SPEAKER_01]: screening, screenwriting, and short-form internet content.

[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that is something people should definitely be getting into.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, now I would say is the peak.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm confused because I had an M.I.

[SPEAKER_01]: the asshole on my list of things to go over but I just clicked it and it was removed by moderator.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but I, it wasn't a very psilacious wild one.

[SPEAKER_01]: So why, like I can tell you what it was about and then why we think it would be removed by moderate.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was basically like a, I think it was a guy, the OP was like, you know, am I the asshole that I had a like a hidden a secret timeline for my, my dates response to my question.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess he asked this person, this woman I believe if she wanted to be boyfriend and girlfriend and she said that she was going to think about it and then in his head he was like well she doesn't know within the next week that I'm just like you know she's not sure enough and so I'm just going to break things off right and then she she wasn't sure within a week and so then he was like okay well I'm you know if you don't know by now like I think we should end things and then she [SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes they think that these pieces are written by AI and that it's not a real question.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like they think it's, you know, oh, this is someone, you know, rage-baiting.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that one's not even that intense.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually, I think, a really interesting question of like, are you allowed to kind of have these, like secret sort of a private ultimatum slash like timelines that you don't share with the person?

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, and I've thought about this a lot.

[SPEAKER_04]: I really don't know the right answer.

[SPEAKER_04]: Then the other person can accuse you of not communicating and of not giving them a real chance and of not saying, you know, like not saying what you want out of the relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I also think there's a, if you wanted to, he would kind of thing, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm, I'm like, personally, someone that's not opposed to ultimatums.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think it gets lit they get kind of a dirty wrap because it's really about what you're willing to tolerate, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: So they can't be empty threats.

[SPEAKER_01]: It can't be like if you don't do this by this I'm leaving you.

[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be like something that you really come to on your own and be like [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like if in a week this person still isn't sure if they want to be in a relationship with me then I'm I'm going to walk away and like that doesn't make them evil that doesn't make me you know vengeful that just is like what feels right for me and in this scenario it's trickier because they don't know each other that well Like I think if you're in a longer term relationship being able to say like hey if we're not engaged by the end of the year [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to continue this relationship.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like that kind of of like ultimatum, I think you should share it with your partner, you know?

[SPEAKER_04]: Does it stress them into doing something they wouldn't normally do?

[SPEAKER_04]: I guess it doesn't matter.

[SPEAKER_00]: I found the answer.

[SPEAKER_04]: What?

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a fake account.

[SPEAKER_00]: They created a day ago to farm karma.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm a detective.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a goddamn detective.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, and all what you said, you said it was AI.

[SPEAKER_04]: I said it wasn't real.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you're quite.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you're real.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the detective because I found the information.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: You had a thought.

[SPEAKER_01]: But in this scenario, I, you know, I don't think it was like so necessary for this person to, if this was real, let's pretend it's real.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's like an okay thing to not have to disclose to somebody because you don't really know them.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_01]: You're not in a relationship with them.

[SPEAKER_04]: But then what if the person's like, oh, if I had known, I would have been thinking about this and I would have, I would have take, you know, I would have known I was on the clock, basically.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that to me feels like that's like pressure.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, oh, you're only going to say yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: If like, why aren't you sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like why don't you know, I mean, ask that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like that's the thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: If it was like, I've only even need been dating this person for a week and the person's like, you're just have totally different expectations of how quickly if you can't even out with them a good amount of Todd's and it's like a pretty reasonable ask.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if they're not ready to like do that, like, what are we doing here?

[SPEAKER_04]: Girl, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: I can't even think about being in a relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know what that, like, I'm, I feel so far removed from the idea of like asking anyone to do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, can't, I'm like, I'm like, I guess what, what would I do?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't even know.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying things and then I could feel totally differently.

[SPEAKER_04]: I could be completely convinced.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm, I feel like the least qualified.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're like the most qualified relationship person because you have a business about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm the least qualified relationship person.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, who fucking knows?

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's a couple dynamic that the people keep coming back for.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I feel like it's flip-flopped though I never, you were never a real expert.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just, yeah, I just, yeah, I know.

[SPEAKER_04]: I guess, yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: We were both just terrible at them.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you fall Melissa?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like you have a good handle on relationship advice and [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I do.

[SPEAKER_00]: I give it all the time.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I have a whole podcast dedicated to giving it voice.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but on that podcast, do you share?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sometimes.

[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be stuff from the past though.

[SPEAKER_00]: Never anything current.

[SPEAKER_01]: So what's your take?

[SPEAKER_01]: What's your take on this?

[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I forgot what we were talking about because I was trying to find out what I can't tell you.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been listening to not.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, she's like on a mission.

[SPEAKER_04]: She's like, I have to solve this.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's exactly what happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, well then we'll move on.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get your take on this next one, which is from the subreddit apartment living.

[SPEAKER_01]: O.P.

[SPEAKER_01]: writes, kept fighting trash in my balcony, finally confronted upstairs neighbors and was pleasantly surprised.

[SPEAKER_01]: This started out with finding random candy wrappers.

[SPEAKER_01]: There are crazy winds here, so at first I thought they were just carried by the wind.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then I started noticing candy, chewed gum, and finally half eaten apples, and realized someone is definitely using my balcony [SPEAKER_01]: I was furious and that had a complete loss because how do you even start a conversation like, excuse me?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you realize you're throwing apples into my balcony when there is no way it's an accident.

[SPEAKER_01]: I really hate confrontation.

[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't sure if the culprit was the apartment directly above me or two floors up.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I decided if it happens again, I have to talk to them.

[SPEAKER_01]: Today I found these little yogurt bottles and finally said, okay, I've had it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I took one and went upstairs and when the woman opened the door I said, hi, is this yours?

[SPEAKER_01]: She was really surprised and long story short, apparently when her nieces visit and she's busy cooking, they sneak onto the balcony and throw these things.

[SPEAKER_01]: She apologized profusely and I relaxed and said no worries, just please make sure it doesn't happen again.

[SPEAKER_01]: A few minutes later, she knocks on my door and sits on picking up all the trash and brings me a home cook meal.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is not at all what I was expecting.

[SPEAKER_01]: It thought it might be nice to share some good stories too, haha.

[SPEAKER_00]: Awwww.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's sweet.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's story.

[SPEAKER_00]: What a meet-cute.

[SPEAKER_01]: What if she doesn't even have meces?

[SPEAKER_00]: And she's just there on the screen.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's just there on the screen.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do eat those little squeezy fruit and vegetable things as it is called a good girl adult.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not throwing them, but like, it could be that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think the way that the OP handle it, like going and asking highest as yours, I think that was a good way to break the ice.

[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously she feels bad about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, [SPEAKER_01]: See, I was bumping on highest this yours because it sounds kind of like passive aggressive, but I guess it depends on like how you deliver it like you genuinely curious.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and like, would you say like, hi, is this yours because it could be the apartment above.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry if it's not.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, hey, like, someone's been like, I think throwing trash on my balcony and I'm just wondering, is this your sign?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the height of this yours is kind of close to your roof.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's because I think if you go with people have been throwing, like, it's already accusing them of something.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it also feels kind of weird because, like, how does this woman immediately know what was her nieces?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is what I think.

[SPEAKER_01]: But she hasn't been doing anything about it this whole time.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, when you bring the actual trash up, you can recognize the yogurt that she gives them, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's what I think happened.

[SPEAKER_04]: But then I would be like, where's all the yogurt containers?

[SPEAKER_04]: Are they not in recycling?

[SPEAKER_04]: What happened to them?

[SPEAKER_04]: And less, the kids are sneaking food and they're throwing it off the balcony so that they don't get caught.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: It just feels like if you're not aware that your nieces are doing that, then it would take a little bit more time for you to put the pieces together.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I would be like, oh, that's the yogurt I get.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just, I may be my denieses were just there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I'm so suspicious of this nice lady.

[SPEAKER_00]: Even if it was her doing it, she apologized and realized she was doing something wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe she didn't realize it was going depending on her look like maybe her balcony protrudes out and she didn't realize it was falling straight down.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, what she's got is just going into the bushes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: someone said so you're dating now and the person said yeah the wedding will be next month with the nieces as bridesmaid dropping candy wrappers instead of flower petals that's cute my nieces didn't drop flowers right they just walked the dogs I think yes they do you can't give too many instructions at once it was very cute though [SPEAKER_04]: I'll do one of my speaking of relationship advice.

[SPEAKER_04]: This one's wild.

[SPEAKER_04]: I, 29 female, unknowingly got the same couples tattoo as my partners, 31 male, X, and it's eating me up inside.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hi, everyone.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, this might be a long one, but I could really use some outside perspectives.

[SPEAKER_04]: I posted in the retroactive jealousy sub.

[SPEAKER_04]: I hope, as well, I hope that's okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: I 29 female had my first encounter with RJ, reactive jealousy, retroactive jealousy, which I guess is being jealous of exes.

[SPEAKER_04]: With my ex a few years ago, accidentally found old intimate photos and videos of himself in his exes while trying to send myself photos we took on his phone earlier that day.

[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't been okay since.

[SPEAKER_04]: Started comparing myself to all of them obsessively, started arguments over my insecurities.

[SPEAKER_04]: I really tried to make the relationship work though, started going to therapy, read so many [SPEAKER_04]: In the end, I couldn't save it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I decided to focus on myself, continue therapy, and heal before entering a new relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: I met, quote unquote, my current partner, 31 male, coincidentally, about two years ago.

[SPEAKER_04]: I same met in quotation marks because both of us were in the same friend circle in high school and met there, but never really connected or spoke much.

[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, by this time, I was pretty confident that I have done enough self-work in healing to be able to be in a good and healthy relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: So when he shot his shot, I leaned into the idea.

[SPEAKER_04]: We've now been together officially for a little over a year, and a verse where he was last month.

[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, he has a son with another woman which doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[SPEAKER_04]: In fact, him being a good father is very attractive to me.

[SPEAKER_04]: But here's where the issue comes in.

[SPEAKER_04]: He has a bunch of tattoos.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we first started hanging out together, I asked about every single one of them out of curiosity and wanting to know the story behind them.

[SPEAKER_04]: I eventually pointed to a little sun tattooed on his ring finger, and his response was, I don't know, it's just something that's always been really special to me.

[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have any reason to mistrust him so I took his answer.

[SPEAKER_04]: So about three months into our relationship, he suggested getting a couple's tattooed to symbolize our relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: I having a couple of tats myself, like the idea, and asked what he had in mind.

[SPEAKER_04]: He suggested a son-in-moon tattoo since it's something that has always been very special to him, but allowed me to pick the design.

[SPEAKER_04]: I did, we discussed what it would mean for both of us to get inked.

[SPEAKER_04]: About six months and he takes me to his ex's house so he could introduce me to his son.

[SPEAKER_04]: As soon as I saw this woman, I saw it.

[SPEAKER_04]: A little moon on the same finger he has his son tattoo.

[SPEAKER_04]: And suddenly it made sense.

[SPEAKER_04]: I got that familiar almost nauseous feeling in my stomach.

[SPEAKER_04]: The design is a bit different than ours because I chose our design, but it's still undoubtedly a son and a moon.

[SPEAKER_04]: I asked him later that night whether the son on his finger was a couple's tattoo, he admitted it was, but said he didn't think it would matter.

[SPEAKER_04]: Ever since I've been battling the retroactive jealousy demon again, hardcore.

[SPEAKER_04]: I struggled to go places they've been to together.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think about it obsessively.

[SPEAKER_04]: Compare just about every detail of myself and our life together.

[SPEAKER_04]: I even go as far as to say the tattoo I have with him is almost meaningless to me now.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a reminder that I'm the version 2.0.

[SPEAKER_04]: The replica of something that failed the first time.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to not make it his problem or punish him for his past.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is his problem.

[SPEAKER_04]: Trying to deal with it on my own, but it's eating me alive.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I guess when I came to ask to people who don't have RJ, is it genuinely possible that something like this just doesn't matter like he said, and that getting a copy of something you already have with someone else can mean something entirely different and still be meaningful.

[SPEAKER_04]: Please give some opinions.

[SPEAKER_04]: Even criticism is welcome if needed.

[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks in advance.

[SPEAKER_04]: This is one of those things where you're like, [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is something that I think happens a lot, which is like, if you have a pattern of issues in a area and then you wind up with someone who's behaving badly, but it falls under technically sort of this umbrella of this thing is like you've identified as an issue within yourself, it could be hard to recognize it like, oh no, this time it's valid.

[SPEAKER_01]: right like this time it's not me overreacting it's not actually my issue it's their bullshit but i'm so prime to see myself as at fault when it comes to this that i can't recognize like how fucked up their behavior yes yes i love this person is it really even jealousy or insecurity though the first guy kept intimate photos of multiple exes on his current phone he never deleted them after breaking up [SPEAKER_04]: Either he was dating each of them for a very short time, which makes it even weirder to keep intimate pics, or he was moving them over from phone to phone, which is even worse.

[SPEAKER_04]: And the second guy straight up lied about the tattoo, and then convinced her to get the same tattoo as his ex and the mother of his child, then lied again, I didn't think it mattered.

[SPEAKER_04]: Why lie about it the first time?

[SPEAKER_04]: Is she insecure or is she just not seeing the red flags for what they are?

[SPEAKER_04]: Seems like she's getting a gut feeling and is unable to recognize it for what it is.

[SPEAKER_04]: I definitely agree she should not be dating yet.

[SPEAKER_04]: She 100% needs to work on herself.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and I should take this advice too.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's such she shouldn't be dating yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that this guy's just an asshole.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm saying if she shouldn't be dating, if she's still thinking she's in the wrong about this stuff, like she doesn't have the confidence.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but some stuff you have to figure out in a relationship.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like sometimes you have to build that trust and that like sense of self, like with another person, there's only so much you can do on your own before being in a relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: how many moons does he have out in the universe?

[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking that too, it's like he's branding his partners.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, cause like, if I saw a tattoo that somebody had on their ring finger, I would automatically think it was a partner tattoo like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then when...

[SPEAKER_00]: she saw that I my antenna went up and I was like I got to get on the exes Instagram and see if she's got the tattoo like something something that that would match it the fact that he initially just like lied about it like I know it's important to him but [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they should make no sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's just something that's always been working.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then why is it important to give me the why.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how could it it's a thing you chose to have it can't just simply have always been important In that sense, I was like like if it was like important like something about the sun is important to him, but what's the why why is it important?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's a liar.

[SPEAKER_00]: Get away from him.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows what else he's lying about.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, thank you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, I a lot of people in here are criticizing getting matching tattoos three months in.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: We are having the tattoos for X's and I just want to say that's fine.

[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, have I I have multiple tattoos for X's and some of them didn't get three months in.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: James and I have like four and we got the first ones yeah like probably three months in if not if not less I love love you guys Not you don't though.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't you seem to really be kind of anti-lovely I loved I loved to be loved bomb and now I'm and now I'm exhausted the bomb has sort of killed all the the ability to grow you know what I mean all the love bombs blew me up [SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm just ravaged land.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think, though, that this thing of like, I have to work on myself first.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is a form of avoidance.

[SPEAKER_04]: Are you talking specifically to Gabe?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm talking specifically to Gabe.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not working on myself.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're just living.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm not working on myself.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not working on myself in order to be in a relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm this is not like a me being like, let me work on myself so that I can be in a relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just kind of going to therapy and trying not to get killed by the administration we're currently under.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not really, I'm not working on myself.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm going back to the gym and I'm flossing, but I'm not like, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_04]: Just the basics.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, because you said something like that was like, that's why I guess I misinterpreted like, yeah, like, that's why I'm not ready yet is because I still have this stuff.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think I'm just like, so I try to imagine things happening in a relationship like walking around.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, okay, I, this is, I let's see how this goes.

[SPEAKER_04]: I will see a couple walking around holding hands.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll be like, my first thought would be like, do they even wanna be doing that?

[SPEAKER_04]: Or are they just, or is one of them making the other when do it and the other one is like having the worst time?

[SPEAKER_04]: Or I'll be like, I'll see like a couple in a store and I'll be like, they hate each other.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'll be like, what if I had to be in this store with someone I was dating and then I think about all the times I had to go to the store with someone when I was mad at them and then I'm like, couldn't be me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you've shifted from like a few months ago where you were wanting a partner because you felt like it's really hard to like live without one.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that's not why you should have a partner.

[SPEAKER_04]: You shouldn't have a partner because you want someone to take your dog to the vet.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so you can sleep.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's not why you should have a partner.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's part of why it's part of why is like a little lifestyle choice, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Of like I want to share life with another person.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to rely on another person and have them rely on me and be in a team.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that's not what happens.

[SPEAKER_04]: So hard pass.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm traumatized.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: This will also showcase more people behaving badly.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's head over to MI over reacting.

[SPEAKER_04]: We both sent the same one.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we did?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we both sent this one.

[SPEAKER_04]: First time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I sent mine first.

[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't look at yours.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just picked my own.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so this is a text exchange with the explanation, my BF 43 male is a high school teacher and has stated touch with his former student 19 female who went off to college this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Am I overreacting or conversations like this between him, him equals blue, her equals white, a bit too emotionally charged to just be mentor mentee relationship.

[SPEAKER_01]: Melissa do you want to be him and I'll be the girl.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am so sorry I didn't get you the link But it was so nice to see your face here your voice and share some positivity with you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've missed you [SPEAKER_01]: It's totally okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I was really unprepared at the meeting and weird all night.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just kind of did the wrong things and said the wrong things.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was so amazing to talk to you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime we get a chance, I'm always really excited to hear how things are going and to trauma dump all of my very academic struggles.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was good to hear your voice.

[SPEAKER_01]: I really missed you too, smiley face.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, I lead us.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: You did a great job at the meeting.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just read your whole goal.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just read your body language and was sensitive to the fact that you were a little uncomfortable.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're human.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can always call me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I will make time for you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love hearing the stories.

[SPEAKER_00]: Makes my life seem even better.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, this I took, makes my life seem even better.

[SPEAKER_04]: I took to be like, he likes his life now.

[SPEAKER_01]: but then it's like a creepy winky face.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: The wink is where you lose me.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm lost the whole time for the game.

[SPEAKER_04]: The wink is where you lose me.

[SPEAKER_01]: The first comment is someone saying, I'm a male teacher.

[SPEAKER_01]: When he was kept up with former students who are also now in college and just graduated.

[SPEAKER_01]: Never, ever, ever, when I say any of that, it's super creepy and inappropriate.

[SPEAKER_01]: The smiley and winky faces, the eyes missed you and you made my life better, gross.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's not you made my life better.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're misinterpreting, married man innocent, [SPEAKER_00]: No, it is not misinterpreted.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is even considering the fact he's married.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's just an avid level of grossness.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, just re-read it that it's your BF and you aren't married.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't even try to fix anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: Get out now.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's great advice.

[SPEAKER_00]: Get out now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: No notes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe keep watch.

[SPEAKER_00]: My house report him at some point.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hear your voice, see your face.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, I feel like your body person, that can say that is like your grandma.

[SPEAKER_01]: A green.

[SPEAKER_04]: That would be great.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_04]: My god.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, right, like if your grandma says that, it's like nice, but anyone else.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, boyfriend innocent.

[SPEAKER_04]: Why are you taking this side?

[SPEAKER_04]: Because I, like, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was about the meeting that they were at.

[SPEAKER_04]: She was worried about that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Why are they talking about Missy and each other?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you're allowed to miss your friends.

[SPEAKER_04]: I guess they're not friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're not friends.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I just have no idea what's appropriate.

[SPEAKER_04]: There are some things that I've had a lot of older men talk to me this way.

[SPEAKER_00]: I, I'm, oh, Gabe's not on TikTok, but else in your, um, there was this woman this week that like got online and she's like, my husband has been out of work for eight years.

[SPEAKER_00]: I need to make him get a job and then people did research, high school teacher got fired.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, for being inappropriate with 16 year olds.

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was her husband.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I saw things saying that like he was a stay-at-home dad.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so to say he didn't have a job was like really weird.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's was the initial conversation and even people did some more digging.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was a reason he doesn't have a job as a high school teacher.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm having my mind change because they're saying would he say that to a male student?

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: He wouldn't.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough.

[SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough.

[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.

[SPEAKER_01]: No longer innocent.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that the random commenters got to you more than me and Melissa.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I did some of your friends.

[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody has to make the show spicy.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_00]: The post itself was spicy.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've changed my mind.

[SPEAKER_04]: Boyfriend no longer innocent.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's do, okay, I looked at one that was humorous reviews.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like people writing reviews for different, like obviously products or places services.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so this person said I went to this unhinged car wash.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then I actually kind of respect this.

[SPEAKER_04]: Someone left a one star review, worst car, while she ever car was almost as dirty as when I pulled in after paying five dollars.

[SPEAKER_04]: First time there, since the price was raised from $1.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then the owner writes back, I know that's why it's only $5.

[SPEAKER_04]: Go somewhere else.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then one star shows open at 730, drove all the way there and they were not there.

[SPEAKER_04]: Response, go drive off a cliff.

[SPEAKER_04]: Completely rude staff visited around three weeks ago.

[SPEAKER_04]: We'll never go back with the owner rights back, cry baby.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is this all for the car wash?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's the car wash.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Something that ends with $5 express car wash.

Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_04]: don't care.

[SPEAKER_04]: Go somewhere else.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't care.

[SPEAKER_04]: All the response.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's why it's cheap.

[SPEAKER_04]: Go somewhere else if you don't like it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then at one point you just writes, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So this car washes definitely just a front for somebody.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it's about to say to you.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a real car.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think care or like, [SPEAKER_00]: The prices are so low because he's been in business for years and he just wants it to be over with.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, they bumped into him from $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to $1.00 to [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, but like, are they just spraying water on it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Cause those little squishy things do a pretty decent job.

[SPEAKER_04]: One of the reviews that owner responded, I don't care about customers and another.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think most of my employees on drugs.

[SPEAKER_04]: This is not real.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is totally fake.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is no way.

[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, my hero.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm with you.

[SPEAKER_04]: You get what you pay for.

[SPEAKER_04]: And this guy seems upfront about what he's offering.

[SPEAKER_04]: If someone came up to me and asked how much when they're signed in every word, I'd be sarcastic back.

[SPEAKER_04]: If I asked and then noticed the science, I'd be rightfully embarrassed.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is AI.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is AI Slop.

[SPEAKER_01]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's too funny to be AI.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it's definitely fake.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, these people are saying that they know it because they're like, this is in Michigan.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think it is real.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess we all have to go to Michigan.

[SPEAKER_04]: I got family there, I'll ask them to go.

[SPEAKER_04]: Drive your car straight through, express $5.00 much.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it must be a thing where you just drive through versus like anyone actually cleaning your car.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it must be express $5.00 breast car wash.

Wow.

[SPEAKER_04]: Could be in California.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's, I mean, there are tons, there's tons of them, but I'll have to go.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have a car.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just walk through it and see if it showers me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this turn isn't for redded or not yours.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mine.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, boy.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[SPEAKER_01]: What about, um, cats playing the trombone?

[SPEAKER_04]: That's so hard because they don't have thumbs, except for [SPEAKER_01]: him he has thumbs.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you've never seen that.

[SPEAKER_04]: The cat is polydactyl.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_04]: He has a thumb.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not normal for a cat.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're called Hemingway Cats because they they mate and have the genetic mutation and Hemingway had a bunch of them on his farm [SPEAKER_01]: He's like heavyweight just had tons of thumbs up.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's how he was such a good writer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so many thumbs couldn't not be writing, baby.

[SPEAKER_03]: I found one.

[SPEAKER_03]: You did?

[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yep.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is a cat playing a trumpet.

[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is a cat playing a trumpet.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll kind of title meme video of cat quote playing trombone.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, look, Reddit truly has everything.

[UNKNOWN]: Wow.

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