In this loose, long-awaited, and longer-than-usual episode, Stephanie and Trevor commiserate about a season of sickness, debrief on Steph’s NaNoWriMo win and the final chapter of The Pantser who Planned, discuss Steph’s newest release, and then dig in on what it’s like to write creatively when writing is also your day job. In between discussions of developing a sense of audience and voice, they indulge in asides about author socials, how wardrobe helps you find your audience at events, new Doctor Who, and bizarrely, Tony Curran’s oeuvre. They do the slowest-ever lightning round of pros and cons of writing when writing is your day job, touching on planning, ego death, and busted hands, among other things. Also, Stephanie administers a test on Bishop.