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Does Cube Need To Hang The Mic Up?
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Speaker 1Oh yeah, what's your recognize so far?
What's four and three?
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Speaker 3That's not bad right there.
Yeah, So I'm gonna genera right into it.
Man, Me and me and you have been having a conversation over the past you he's man about.
Speaker 1Og like Triple Og West Coast rapper.
Man.
Speaker 3They just dropped the new album along with a visual that's kind of going viral for I would say the wrong reasons.
He definitely gets a lot of attention off of it.
Right we're talking about my man and ice Q, and this is what I got to say about q qbe is barred none.
One of the greatest rappers of all time.
Like you cannot say nothing about his career.
You know from him from the time he launched with n w A just all the stuff he did America's most wanted, like he got classic albums, and he's known, he's known for being vicious on that microphone.
Speaker 1I would see it one time.
Speaker 3I would say, at one time, que for sure one of the most respected rappers on the West Coat, not you know, not Gus the West Coas, but rat period.
Speaker 1We say so when you agree, i'd say.
Speaker 4And steal significant as far as concerned.
Speaker 3Cube is a superstar.
No way am I trying to be a little his legacy or nothing like that.
A lot of people have a problem with the visuals he dropped for that for his new single MM with him the scarface on the like dressed like babies you know where they had the babysuits on when they.
Speaker 1Looked like two little toddlers.
Speaker 3Right.
No, DJ Pooh produced the video.
I think sometimes man, people don't want you to change.
People want you.
They'll want you ever to have humor.
I think if you, especially an artist of cubes caliber.
I think people always want to see him as the predator.
Speaker 4Well you gotta look at you know, choose iconic status.
As far as hip hop concern is substantiated.
I guess it's the a parody or take on some people feeling like because of our stature or our or maturity that we should I guess, you know, partaken and other activities than trying to rap.
Speaker 1Mm hmm.
Speaker 4So I guess that's a play on you know, Q taking it like what age am I supposed to act them?
Speaker 1And then the paletyyond that toddnership.
Speaker 4You know, I don't know.
I guess you know, we would have to act.
What was the concept behind it?
Maybe it's the concept of you think a niggas should be young or infant or that stage to be hip hop.
So it's a play on that.
I guess.
Speaker 3Well, I think, first of all, this is what I think, man, this is my honest opinion.
I think Cube is successful.
I think Cube was rich as fucking I think Cube could do whatever the hell you want to.
I think it was just I think it was just as attempt.
I think he was being funny.
I think he just you know, having the humorous I think he was having fun with this shit, you know.
Speaker 4And they're a lot of his projects as far as movies are concerned.
Speaker 1They deal with the.
Speaker 4Comedy aspect, lodging spells outside the seriousness of what he has done as an actor.
Here's a lot of films that play on the comedy stature.
So I could see in his eyes it's a play on that.
I'm not the serious.
I'm crowning you feel me?
Speaker 3Yeah, obviously.
The one thing I didn't like, though, Man, this is what I was saying, that is Cube is such icon.
I don't think Cube ever knows.
Oh, nobody explanation man for what he chooses to do with his career, because he's at this point, he's in his own money and he's putting his own records out right.
And he responded to this nobody guy on Twitter, right, a guy on Twitter said that you should go hang the microphone looking.
Cub responded back to him, when I think when you do that stuff with people, man, you kind of give them a stage.
Everybody don't need a stage, you feel what I'm saying.
Had he ignored it and just blocked to do it or whatever, nobody would have paid attention to it.
He just went on about his business, but he gave this due to form, so that means that it obviously bothered him.
Speaker 1I'm sure you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4Sometimes people can't go too far with their opens and sometimes you get into a position to where you don't feel like turning the other cheek.
You get me to you deal with that shit.
You fail me, especially myself as an artist.
I guess you have to be able to take the criticism.
But sometimes I like that.
Like I said, sometimes people can go too far and and you might you might feel the need to address certain shit that motherfuckers is staying on your page because you're looking for positivity, you know what I'm saying, the same situation.
Not to speak on whatever, but it was a situation where I posted something and there was a comment made and they had to do with the post.
It was totally just some other shit.
You feel me and sometimes you know, I have to go in the DM and it's like, you know, what was the need for all that?
Not that he was saying anything negative towards me, But the post is for the promotion of my shit, not for you to get off your grievance about some shit that might be ailing you, and because you know there are people watching, you feel the need to, you know, so like from tars people or fans or whoever, go to extra mile and it might make you uncomfortable.
Sometimes it might make you have to address some motherfucking.
Speaker 1Well.
Speaker 3Cube is a very significant figure, not just on the West Coast but in all the hip hop period.
And you know what, you just made a valid point.
All of his movies, with the exception of Boys in the Hood, have been light hearted, humorous movies.
Friday, Are We There Yet?
Barbershop?
And I actually liked that side of the Cube as an actor.
You feel what I'm saying.
He makes good movies.
He makes good, light hearted movies, right And I think this right here.
I think people get into place, man, to where they don't want people to change, Like people are very unacceptable change when it comes to music.
It seems like like they're not down with that.
Like if I think if you did a certain record, man, people will look at you like you was crazy.
You know what I'm saying, If you did a Will Smith style record, man, I think people will look at you like as who lost his mind.
I don't know if I would like to see doing all records like that.
You feel me what, Yeah, but this is what I was gonna say.
You've paid your dues as an artists, an artist should be able to do what they want to.
That don't mean everybody go accept it, right right, That don't necessarily mean everybody gonna be an acceptance of it.
Speaker 1But I don't think.
Speaker 3I think sometimes these fans they say stuff and they take it, they make things real personal to where you almost got to address it.
Speaker 4Well, some times, you, like I said it, sometimes motherfuger might go too far and you may feel that me there's always you know, turn the other cheap, be the bigger person and all that shit.
But sometimes a motherfuger might just touch that motherfucking spot to where you feel like, oh, just that going a little bit too far.
I might have to holler at on me or you go, or anybody with an excessive opinion you know, yeah, you know what, brilliant, that's just what it is.
It's just a motherfucker's opinion, right.
But like I said, sometimes some people's opinions might be a little too excessive and it might touch a nerve especially I don't know, if you know, if you feel confident about what you're putting out and what you're doing, then you confident about it.
Would you feel a certain way if you didn't feel as confident about your pride and the motherfucker was telling you, you know, some shit, I'll steal nigga eel if you knew deep down that your shit wasn't that's popping as you would hope it would be.
Speaker 1And now you're seeing people comment.
Speaker 4And say certain things what you feel that's why because you not as confident as the project as.
Speaker 1You felt it would be.
Well, this is what I say.
Speaker 3I definitely think when you respond to something that you already have something on your mind, right, Like let's say you've just been getting bombarded with negative stuff all day and the man's bus was just firebomb You see what I'm saying.
He probably didn't want to hear that shit at the time, because the first thing you see when you turn your thing on.
I've had people to way they felt like they could say certain things to me and just do it with no thing.
But then I go look at their page and see that they only had maybe sixteen followers and they was following five thousand people, and they just like losers.
So it's like, I'm not gonna respond to a loser, right, you don't hold no significance over my life.
Man, I think I've kind of been past the point man that I allow people to live rent free.
Speaker 4Inside my head, yeah, I hear, I hear that saying a lot, you know, And I guess when you dealt with the music business and you dealt with opt it, when you dealt with in the music business that you deal with business and other bullshit shit don't always gonna go your way, you know what I'm saying.
It's not gonna always go your way.
So you have tomorrow how to have thick skin, especially in this entertainment world of music, movies, you know, writing books, whatever whatever it is, and they entertain feel right because directors and movie trump pedice can put our movies spend twenty thirty forty million that mother, we're gonna even make back fifteen twenty the first week.
So that looked at as a bomb, as a failure.
You're gonna have the writers criticize, right when there's a bad movie or they think somebody acted back.
You see them go to the columns and the shit real quick and be like, oh, this movie trying to suck give me the three or four.
The rating was real low on it.
People can voice their opinions, sot a do so I guess, you know, in a sense, we have to be able to You gotta have to pick skin, you know what I'm saying, because not everybody gonna like what I'll put out he gives me.
Speaker 1And thus, when you open yourself.
Speaker 4To public opinion by being in that spotlight, right, by being in that entertainment world, you open yourself up to rid of chule and comments and opinions, and you have to be able to deal with that, right because if not, you shouldn't be in that field.
Speaker 3Well, that was the other part I was gonna say to I was gonna say to you know, que made a comment to you know, go find your humor and get out my business.
I think when you decide to release an album to the public, you kind of make it everybody's business because somebody's gonna have an opinion, whether that opinion is solicited or not.
Speaker 1You know, I try my.
Speaker 3Best man to always be respectful about things, even though even if it's something I may not particularly like.
I don't feel you have to actually bash somebody to disrespect somebody to say, you know, give a casual observation on an album.
More peace of art, because all alreadience is all subject if anyway right, something to me and you might not like it, might be twenty thousand other people that like it.
At the end of the day, the only will he did hit me and told me he wanted to watch you show down in Houston, and he said it was packed.
Man, he said it was a It was a rocking ass show.
And you know it was fact.
This dude filled the whole stadium, you know, whole arena.
He still can go out, man at fifty six years old and feel the whole arena.
Man doing classics.
It's at the end of the day, man, I think Cube didn't tell the hell he want to because it ain't gonna it ain't gonna stop.
And I think at this point he just having fun.
Speaker 4I mean, you got to, uh, when you've been through as as much as Cube has been through, as far as the business is concerned, gip pop, the movie world, being a hip pop artist, being a label, being a movie producer, acting in movies, getting the scripts to act in other people's movies outside of your own.
They can in stride and when you have done as much as Cube has done for West Coast hip hop and hip hop in general, certain certain people we look to as or heroes as far as sustaining on a legacy of what we loved as consumers and fans, because not only a line artists.
I'm a consumer because I buy shit.
I'm a fan because I love when I hear a good song.
So certain niggas have the right to you know, and que I can do this shit because I started this shit.
Speaker 1You get me.
So if I feel like I want to put out a record.
Speaker 4And this is how the direction I want to go and I want to clown and I want to do a video where I'm mocking motherfuckers who say we should be acting on aids, and we should because we always go up against that with the newer generation and just people in general not feeling like we should be rapping or making music or whatever it is because for some reason they want to restrict and they want to put an age limit on hip hop, which is ridiculous because no other genre of music does that to its artist, past or.
Speaker 1Path, praiser or even future.
Speaker 4You want to record to you a hundred years old, I'm pretty sure if you could record as an old school pop artist, or if Dolly Parton wanted to go out and put out a record, she could put out a record, nobody would tell her.
Speaker 1Why don't you just sit at home and stop rapping?
Speaker 4I mean, stop lake and country song you two motherfucking old Nobody disrespects their appears outside of hippop.
You actually get disrespected as a legacy artist and hippop because it's like, it's it's absurd for you to be putting out music to some people.
Speaker 1And that's just some critics, you know.
Speaker 4So you got to in one hand, you got to laugh because the video was comical.
But then in another hand, you got to give a nigga a salute for standing up to motherfuckers who feel like we should be hanging it up when the mic is concerned.
Who are you to tell me?
I am acting my age, motherfucker, but I'm a I'm a clown, because what age is supposed to be able to wrap the babies?
Speaker 3They getn't.
So you know, well, this is the thing, right they I listened to the whole album.
Here's some songs I like on there.
It's not like like the thing Neil is Man, I think what people mission this huge music is not whack, right, I think he's just fighting his own legiends, so to speak.
Because you got to remember, I heard Lethal Injection when it first dropped, right, America's most wanted not not Lethal Ejection, but Death Certificate, Death Certificate when it first dropped, And that was white one of the best albums I've ever heard, right still to this day.
Speaker 1Right, And I think Cube is fighting that.
And I think.
Speaker 3You got a whole generation of fans that don't remember that Cube or right, they just no cue from being Craig on Craig on Friday or you know what I'm saying, the dude from a barbership, right, that's all they know him from.
Speaker 1They don't remember that that vicious ice Cube.
Speaker 3So as long as we doing music, man, as long as we're putting ourselves in front of people, people have the right court of public opinion.
Right if people go say what they feel they can say is some of these dudes is brutal.
But I'll tell you this, half the people that dropping their unsolicited in comments and their opinions about shit don't even have decent lives.
They mad at theyself but that's why they come so hard as somebody else, right, somebody out to living their dreams of doing what they're doing, because it's always it's a touch of jealousy to it.
Man, it's always jealousy.
Speaker 4I don't know what beyond people would saying negatives being a hater.
I don't understand the reasoning behind.
And and again these are people's own opinions to why a motherfucker might even stray some shit like hang it up?
Speaker 1Are are you a cute fan?
Speaker 4Or are you just a motherfucker who popped in for a minute to see because you've heard the ice tube and the Legenderry ice tube and whatever, And maybe he just popped in and was like, maybe I didn't.
Speaker 1Like the project.
Speaker 4You know, we have to be careful in the way we address our opinions because you fould the easily just said, you know, hate you if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1I'm a big fan.
Speaker 4You know I really didn't might like this project too much, but you know, I'm always down and I'm gonna always support and you know I'll be waiting for the next one.
Speaker 1You know, that would have been something that was not me.
That's the type of shit.
Speaker 4I would try to say if I'm a genuine fan, But if I'm just a dumb motherfucker and trying to get attention by saying the negative shit on the motherfucker's page, then I don't think I would even address it because I know what the mother trying to do.
Speaker 1You're trying to get more motherfucking likes and motherfucking.
Speaker 3That's what that thing has been seen over a million times, and that's what I'm saying.
People that do stuff like aren't real fans.
So I've had people, We've all had people that try to.
Speaker 4You can't be a fan if you're telling the motherfucker you need to hang it up.
Like I said, maybe this is just not your cup of tea on this project.
But my man has always put out significant music, so maybe.
Speaker 1This one you didn't like.
Speaker 4But there's a way to address that, and there's a way to voice your opinion in the positive aspect to where you not speaking click bait type of shit and attention for motherfuckers you on the Oh look, this nigga reached by Ice Fool responded to this nigga it that made his century.
Speaker 1You give me.
Speaker 3This is the one thing I would say right, And this is what I tell everybody, be careful singing them, singling out the paters, and actually rewarding them for their behavior, because when you respond to hater, you actually wordinator Hey, if you're right, you acknowledging them right, and you letting them know you bothered me.
So I'm gonna have to say something to you.
And I'm pretty sure it's millions of people or thousands of people at least, who have left positive comments on CUE, but he ain't probably say none of them.
Not Once you feel what I'm saying, I think that we need to focus on the catch.
Speaker 4Well then or unless you do that still, then what signals out the difference of that fan from the.
Speaker 1Twenty others you give me?
I mean the twenty million others.
Speaker 4It's always the negative motherfuckers that stabbed out the boldest and that you want to address because they saying, come off the wall shit you feel mem Have you.
Speaker 3Ever had anybody tell you that she was in height you should hang the microphone up.
Speaker 4Not in so many words, but like I said, I still fit into that class of people feeling like, you know, we should hang the micup at a certain aide.
If I had a person directly tell me, oh man, that ain't it my nigga, you need to hang it up.
I mean there's people who would turn around and when you go, oh yeah, I'm getting ready to put out a project.
Speaker 1You see people who goes okay and or who tears you get me.
Speaker 4It's it's not that necessarily the motherfucking taint rap.
Speaker 1It's just that.
Speaker 3Nigga.
Speaker 4You you fit the you fit the age limit criteria.
You fit, you fit the uh you fit the motherfucker with it.
You know, you see the infomercials on TV and when you get a.
Speaker 1Certain age, you get a break from your.
Speaker 4Insurance and shit, yeah, like you you're fitted to that class.
Now they feel like they feel like hip hop is the young man's game.
It's it's like I said, it's outside of any other genre of music.
Whether it's R and B, whether it's pop, whether it's jazz, whether it's blues, whether it's country, whether it's motherfucking Asian, whether it's Puerto Rican, whether it's Lexicon.
Speaker 1It don't matter.
Speaker 4It could be eighty and it's still putting out records and if you have the significant fan base, it'll be one hundred thousand motherfuckers that a big ass concert or whatever whatever.
Speaker 1They respect that hip hop is like.
Speaker 4Hip hop is like sports, nigga, right, hip hop ain't even like the drug game, because if you're able to sustain in the drug game, you can look up and nigga, you can beat fifty five sixty and still be balling.
Speaker 1You can still be seventy balling pimping.
Speaker 4You get me nigga out there with holes and cat Daddy and the nigga who there kept his nose to the motherfucking grind and ain't exposed, And just then, no, nigga's nigga the generation of Kilo happers, you feel me?
But hip hop, Oh no, nigga, once you turn thirty five, you might as well start packing it up, because now.
Speaker 3Hip hop is looking to be the voice of the young and angry.
I believe in I think that people that really preach agism, because that's what the deos, you know, to tell somebody, hell, you too old to do something right.
I believe a certain among those people are rappers themselves.
I think only I've never heard an actual fan say, oh, I don't listen to him because he's too old.
I just think people listen to good music and bad music.
You know, it's either good music or bad music, right, I think people what they attracted to, right.
And I say that because I was and I'm not gonna get this guy no kind of shine.
And I saw this guy the other day.
He put a post and he had ice huge video picture from the video of him and face says, the baby's right and said, here's another example of a man wasting a perfectly cut budget that could have been spent on a young rapper out here in La.
What he could have took that money and promoted the young rapper in La.
And it's like kind of like, dude, who are you to tell this man what to spend his money on.
Speaker 4Well, usually that comes from a motherfucker who's trying to get into the business and they feel that they're hot and they're the next up and coming thing, And why spend money on this old school, last nigga when that money could have been directed at me?
Speaker 1But the talent just don't be there.
It's a nigga.
Speaker 4It's a gang of niggas who can rap, you feel me can niggas who can rap?
Speaker 1But can you create music?
Speaker 4That's the whole difference between a lot of iconic artists, and you know, no disrespect to my young generation because they get theirs.
And that's why I never have a hatred or a haterithm for the young generation of music, even though we on a different page with our shit that we're still trying to create.
And not that a nigga couldn't do that type of motherfucking shit, but what I look like doing some shit that the twenty year olds are doing.
Speaker 1So I stay in my own lane because I feel.
Speaker 4That I have solidified myself and have enough fan base over the years and over the countries and states and different continents that I can sustain putting out music.
But you've still got to put out some quality shit, now, you feel me, because the cards are triple stacked against you as an iconic figure because you have to compete, and so you have to at least put out shit that's decent.
If you put out shit that was significant, I don't think you would get the negativity of AIDS as much as you would if your shit was of high quality.
Speaker 1You get me.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm gonna tell you this, though I hear that argument all the time.
Why don't y'all move out the way and let the young people through.
It's almost like they begging, like, like, please stop making music, so somebody would make something significant, make something to make someone want to play your music.
Because I'm gonna be honest with you, hip hop is on the decline for the first time in fifty years.
Speaker 1Bro.
Speaker 3Hip hop is fifty some years old, and we've dominated hip We've dominated like music as a whole from the on set, and it's starting to go down.
And that's because of the quality of the music.
A lot of these people are just making shitty music.
Man, the music is not no good.
I'm saying that.
I'm not an hater.
A lot of the music that these young kids making, it's just not good music.
A lot of it I wouldn't even classify as rat.
Speaker 4Hey my the computer working right now.
I'm about to jump in, all right, yo, y'all.
Yeah, there we go, right there, there we go.
We get Oh, you're on the phone, y'all.
You see that dedication.
You did it from the phone till the computer came back to working.
Speaker 1Yeah, you don't speak.
We all good.
Speaker 4So that's what I say, man, it's the it's it's just the significance of of how good your project is, because you still got to put out some decent music.
Speaker 1You feel me at the end of the day, you you want to you you you're competing.
Speaker 4You're still a competition, right, you're getting me, and so you have to be able to compete.
Not that you're gonna be expected, not that you're gonna be expected to do the forty.
Speaker 1Right, you ain't to do.
Speaker 4The forty yard dash, right, come on, you're you're over forty five years old.
You're not expected to do the forty, but you gotta at least do the twenty.
Speaker 1You get me, and you get me.
You gotta lead.
Speaker 4If you can't do the motherfucking twenty, that I'll I'll know what you do it here, because if you if you run it, if you run it a twenty at under my meiga, come.
Speaker 1On, man, come on, help me out.
Speaker 4And now you're gonna get the booze from the stands and you're gonna get the all.
Speaker 1Man, what is this motherfucker doing here?
Speaker 4You get me this nigga limping, he can't even do a twenty And nigga ran like five ten yards a nigga and just pooped out.
And and that goes for your material.
Your material is, we're not expecting it to be a forty you get me.
Them young niggas is running forties right now.
But your shit gotta at least be a twenty man if you want to compete in the in the section.
Speaker 3And I will say that.
And when I say these young cats see a lot of people Kendrick is forty.
I believe Kendrick is almost forty if he's not forty already.
Right, I'm not talking about him, I'm not talking about the j Coles.
I'm not talking about the Drakes.
Them dudes don't careers.
That's over ten years.
They kind of the OG's And at this point, right, a lot of this stuff is just not good because it's not being developed.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 3And even if you did the side take a young rapper me, you had a conversation about this, right.
You know, I got a record label and I'm doing some things, and I'm really doing it for the love of the music because there's really not a lot of money and actually making the music.
Now, you know, you got guys out there.
As a dude that made beats and that can produce, there's not really a reason for me to go out there and really try to push my beats because you got cats to selling beats online.
I don't know how to tell you, Lisa beat, but they leasing beats online for twenty five dollars.
Bro.
Speaker 1If some of that shit is fired, some more was fired.
So how do I compete with that?
Speaker 3Do I go out and put my beats up on beat Stars or one of these other sites and say, hey, shoot me fifty dollars and you can have a license for this.
Speaker 1Hell no, that's not even worth That's not worth doing, bro.
Speaker 3And it's like they've just the value out the music so bad now, man with I almost think it was on purpose because the record companies making their money either way, all of them got ownership and Spotify.
Everybody from these all these record labels are getting a piece of the action right right.
They play on the way just to take everybody kind of knock everybody of the loop.
Speaker 1And I would say, like, you know, you got guys like.
Speaker 3Rock Marcy Now the Benny, the Butcher, those cats.
That's kind of selling the consume right now, and they ain't making their money.
Speaker 4If you're selling a product and it's product that people want, people gonna find a way to get it.
Speaker 1Right.
That's with any ding right now.
Speaker 4With with with the Internet and Google search and all that other bullshit.
Right, you can basically just request what you want and if it exists, you get me, you can buy it.
So, you know, if niggas have a great social media presence, if niggas are putting out some decent product of music that they feel consumers feel like they want what they want, you get me.
It's like when you go out to eat, motherfucker you're gonna order.
When you're ordering something, you not ordering it because whatever.
You ain't ordering some shit because you don't like it, right, You ordering this shit because you like that shit.
You planning on fucking that shit up.
You planing on cleaning the plate.
So and then there's times, you know, and this is with consumers too.
There sometimes you might want to try some shit, right, you might hope it's good.
I mean, it looked good.
Right, this is a place that you frequented it before.
You know, you've never tried this other product.
So again, your shit got to be good and if people want it, they're gonna be able to get it.
And it's just another way for us as artists to try to stand firm on believing in ourselves and gambling on ourselves, right, Because if you gonna let Spotify and all the mother places gamble on your mother fucking income and your position in the hip hop game, you might as well gamble and roll the dice yourself, right.
Speaker 1So I might as well just put this shit up on my own.
Speaker 4Site, and instead of making sixty cent, I might as well make a full ten dollars and just hopefully push the shit on my page or you know, whatever price is a nigga pushing his product for, because.
Speaker 3We're telling you right now, we ain't we selling for way more than ten dollars.
Speaker 1Bro.
Speaker 4I'm just saying in the aspect of, you know, of what people gonna spend, a person donna spend whatever they want to spend on what they want to have, whether it's motherfucking ten dollars, whether it's one hundred dollars.
My aspect of saying, you're still making more money than you would make from Spotify pushing shit on your own on your own platform, And that's what a lot of artists are starting to do because, like you said, and inflation has risen to get me and to press up a CD and package it up and get it done and all that.
It's valuable to a true consumer.
So you know, shit is the fans are willing to get what they want to get.
Yeah, the thing is right, you got Cee these right now?
Man, I would say, right now, Vinyl is still expensive to make.
Vinyl has always been expensive to make.
That's why vinyl costs went right exactly.
You have some people sell a vinyl for two hundred three hundred dollars, right, but finyl sales yup.
People want to buy them.
All that stuff is looked at its collector's items.
Now, well, you know, going back to you know ce Man, I personally want to see all the OG's continue making music, right, even if it may not be without necessarily like from them.
You understand what I'm saying because it's okay to say you don't like something, right.
Speaker 1You can definitely have an opinion of your likes or dislikes, and people shouldn't take it personal because, like I said, people just expect.
And I'm not talking.
Speaker 4About you know, whatever a new fan might expect, you can't compete with, you know, what's going on in that other realm of hip hop.
I'm talking about someone who has followed you or someone who has listened to your music over the decades.
You know, somebody who would go to that concert of Cubes, you get me.
That's a true fan, that's a true consumer.
Because everybody in there should recognize who Cube is, the work he's put out, his position in hip hop, and they should.
Speaker 1Again know the product they're getting.
Speaker 4So those are true fans, and those are people who are willing, and those are people who will contribute and go out and buy an ice Cube record.
I'm one of them.
Yeah, So think about that side of the record.
You know, I download the ship and I'll listen to it.
Speaker 1You give me.
Speaker 4Everything is not gonna be to Everything is not going to be the people's liking.
True fans, and true fans are gonna love what he puts out because they just respect the craft of ice Cube and.
Speaker 1What he does.
Speaker 4Some people who are just passing through might have an opinion about what they like and don't like.
Speaker 3You know, one thing Willie De told me was, well, Cube did the show on him, Houston.
You know how to say even sort of lights to the good your blunt and it read ice Cube's a pin.
Speaker 4He had a blint floated over the arena, bro right, like right, the only traces on the road with them.
You know he built them two cars.
Mm yeah, he built them two low riders.
He built the uh, the good day Lowrider, and he built the boys in the hood Lowrider.
Speaker 3That's due shout up to shout out to the homie Chris.
But you gotta just think about this, right, Cube obviously don't need the money, right, And the reason why bring up the PLMT not only because that's built like I would have been hyped if I have saw some ship like that the show, right, But to put those blimps in the sky costs a lot of money, bro, If I'm not mistaken, it's more than twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4You got a Cube, it's up his his you know, he's he's he's a good showman.
Speaker 1He puts on good showman ship.
Oh he put through, he puts.
Speaker 3Because I'm gonna tell you, young people, I've seen a lot of y'all perform.
It's some of y'all to get busy.
I ain't gonna go into that right now.
Some of y'all get busy, but a lot of y'all really need to work on y'all stage presence out here, dudes rapping over the tracks, just standing up there kind of like this.
Speaker 1Hey, the song is going on.
They just standing up there, just.
Speaker 3Kind of just just doing whatever right up.
Is still one of the best performers in hip hop, still one of the best performers in hip hop by far.
And for him to go out and spend the money on a blimp, right, that means he's doing this for the love, because that means he probably spent the significant portion of his money, you feel what I'm saying, just to put that show on.
And I remember Willie de Make sing that he did the show before down there, and Q kind of operated at a loss on the show, like because he just likes being out like this a dude.
They just love hip hop, bro, Like he for sure don't need it no more at this point.
Speaker 4I mean, if you in the position to where you can put together your shows.
Speaker 1And you can go out on the road and do twenty thirty dates and give people that that reminiscent feeling of yester Year's hip hop, and especially with.
Speaker 4Somebody like Ice cue Cube, we've traveled with through time as far as his music is concerned.
So He'll take you all the way back to once at a time and the projects to something he put out last week, and that shows longevity.
Speaker 1In hip hop.
Speaker 4Not no mixtapes, No disrespect to mixtapes and whatever people do to get on and whatever.
But this as a dude who has sustained a career over decades.
As far as him concerned, hip hop been around fifty years.
A lot of us have been putting out music for maybe thirty thirty five forty years.
You're getting me at a time where hip hop was frowned upon and you got banned for a way you talked and what you look like and references you made, which is all open, open door now.
Speaker 1You know, it's like dudes in zail too.
It's just like motherfuckers had to go through the rough shit for us.
Speaker 4To be able to sit at the front of the bus today.
Speaker 1You get me.
Speaker 4You had to go through those rough times, just like our ancestors when it came to you know, eating certain places and drinking out of fountains and shit like that.
Man, we we went through hell.
People hated us, you know, like people mouffuckers was banning.
You couldn't get played your videos wouldn't get played.
Speaker 1Motherfucker's would be out there using your.
Speaker 4Motherfucking references and your lyrics as quotes, and their motherfucking campaigns, and motherfuckers out there running over your CDs that I had an episode where motherfucking mentioned me, and and and and saying.
Speaker 1That I was a negative influence countings.
Speaker 4Most wanted whatever.
It's what you had to go through to be able to.
Speaker 1You today.
Motherfuckers today gotta deal with none of that.
Speaker 4They walking well, you could be the roughest, toughest criminal asses motherfucker on the planet and they walking with open arms through the doors.
Speaker 1You know it was you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4So times change, right, Times have changed for a lot, but.
Speaker 1It's still a struggle.
Still.
Speaker 3You're still generation for sure.
Paid dudes are early generation.
Hey, let me ask you this, a did you feel bad when you saw the moff of the room over your CDs?
Speaker 4I ain't feel bad about it.
Shit, And you had to pay for that ship, so it didn't matter what your record sal wasn't like you got the ship for free.
You know what I'm saying.
You you still have to go spend the church's money to be.
Speaker 1Able to go run their motherfucking's over.
Speaker 4So shit, if you will take money out your budget where you could be using it for something positive, you want shit, I ain't doing nothing and you've dumb.
Motherfuckers don't understand.
That's how the world work, right.
They see negativity.
Shit, they wanted more.
Now I really want to go listen to it.
You steam rolling the ship and banning it and saying that this motherfucker can't be played.
Speaker 1Oh, I got to go get this ship now.
Speaker 4Man, you the work man.
That's crazy.
Man, that's crazy.
And guess if just motherfuckers just feel like I don't know, dude, do do you know?
Like people tell you, I don't know if that fits your age the age description?
Do do do?
Speaker 1Do?
Do?
Speaker 4Beg's or young thugs or young homies tell they ol g's as quick it's time to start banging, or it's time to get out the neighborhood if they're still there.
A lot of niggas move away and do that.
But I wonder if that's an issue you getting me the young niggas in the hood, are y'all telling or they're still old g's left around in the hood and are y'all forcing them to get out the hood, because what it's a bad influence because old niggas are still representing the block.
Speaker 1I don't think it's no more hood at all.
Man.
Speaker 3They seem like they're tearing all that down.
But this is what they say.
You box you on Wine eight.
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While his music often portrays the realities of street life, which can include violence and gangs, he has stated he used the rap to tell stories and does not glorify street life.
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As they say about you, they say that she was a storyteller, bro that she was a good figure of the music.
Speaker 4I've never tried to be a negative influence to because.
Speaker 1Let me tell you this, it was my choice to join a gang.
I think have to.
Speaker 4We all lived in poverty at one point.
I grew up in Georgian You get me.
That's a that's that's a bad start right there.
Not to say that Compton was bad because I tell motherfucker's all the John my child.
The upbringing was lovely and I didn't know.
I didn't know what poverty was.
Even though we was in poverty, I didn't know what that shit was.
We stayed in the house, we had a vehicle to go back and forth, and we didn't start.
The lights was always on.
You getting it was was gang baying and dope dealing and shootouts throughout the neighborhood.
But that was a part of growing up in coming gin.
Speaker 1You're getting me.
Speaker 4It was great Christmas parades and motherfucking Christmas is in the neighborhood, and getting getting bikes.
Speaker 1And skates, and.
Speaker 4Being able to go to places like Louis Bergers and get a chili burger and fries special if my bringing on Burgers, and just not having to go through the bullshit, you know, not saying it was bullshit, but whatever mAbs was gonna come up with the meal for that evening.
Nothing was better than getting a burger and fried special.
Sure, so life was great.
Trips to the auntie's house on the weekends, motherfuckers out there getting loaded.
We in the cousins rooms, playing the video games or watching TV or you know what.
I'm saying, cousins come over our house on the weekend, We go over the house and shit like that.
Man, life was lovely, but you know, we lived in a gang infestic niggas was drive by shooting and niggas was selling shame and you know, and different neighborhoods were serving different narcotics.
Speaker 1And your auntie you.
Speaker 4Lived in in Blood neighborhood, your other auntie lived in Blood neighborhood, and you starting to claim crip shit and life started to get serious.
Speaker 1But like I said, who knew.
That's that's just what it was.
You feel me.
Speaker 3So at any point when you was doing them CD when you was younger, man, she would still be doing that stuff today.
Speaker 1Man, I didn't know.
I didn't know what.
Speaker 4I'm one of them type of motherfuckers who I try not to think so far in the future.
Now I'm I'm worried about what happened next week.
Speaker 1You get me.
That's it.
Speaker 4If I can sustain and make it through next month, then everything is good.
And then I go from there.
Then I go from there.
You can dream big and you can walk things as ship.
Oh, in five years, I'm gonna do this and you you don't know what God's gonna do to him, you feel and you have no clue what you've got.
Speaker 1Really, if I can wake.
Speaker 4Up tomorrow, then I'm dealing with tomorrow and I'm gonna do whatever.
Nothing's planned, you feel me, unless unless a motherfucker, Hey, you gotta meet next week, or you got a doctor's appointing the next week, or oh I gotta go to football practice.
You feel me that type of shit.
But other than that, you take it as it comes.
You feel me because nothing is everything that's unexpected.
You can say next week you're finla, go do some shit, and next week come you not doing it?
Speaker 1You feel me.
Time is for sure not guaranteed.
Man.
Speaker 3There have been interviews that we were supposed to have, man, and I might have delayed on the sick.
You know what, I'm gonna push this back in the subject dies.
You know that's happened a couple of times.
Man, And really, I don't think we should take time for.
Speaker 4Granted, No you can't.
You gotta take every day and stride and it is what it is.
Enjoy every day.
And it's okay to dream and have plans, but you know everything is unexpected.
Everything you know, life can throw you a curve ball.
So I wake up tomorrow and we're gonna do what we gotta do tomorrow.
You feel me, And I want Friday.
I'm gonna do what I gotta do on Friday.
And that's how it works.
Speaker 1Yeah, And I think man shut out to Cube.
I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3That's on my bucket list to actually be able to sit down with Cube man and we have a conversation with him one day, just about this career as the whole, you know, because he's done some mother, he's a lection.
You know, a lot of people throw that term lex a round with these definitely a legend and they brought good music to the coach and it's done a lot of things for the culture.
Speaker 1Man.
Speaker 3I think if people go back and actually look at people's body of work and look at the impact on the culture, I think they're handled.
Handle these people with a new form of reference.
You know.
I think somebody like you definitely deserves our respect.
I think he I don't think people should be allowed to just come at him, tell him to put the microphone down, Like, who the hell does that do?
Tell him to put the mic down up?
Speaker 4And like I said, sometimes you're gonna run into people who just and and and most of the time they're nobodies, right, They're not always a newbody.
And most of the time those are people who are seeking attention and want to just be seen or heard.
Speaker 1So those are the people we you know, we we.
Speaker 4Let him have they they they five minutes of fame.
You get me, go ahead, go ahead and clown and talk shit.
And then after that, I'm just gonna delete you and block you, and You'll never be able to make another comment again.
So get your get your little spotlight right quick, be a hater, get your little spotlight, because I'm not gonna even respond negatively to you.
After you get through rattling raving, I'm just gonna delete you and block you.
Speaker 3And now that the problem is solved, well, you know what the thing is, right, I don't even give them that much.
Heyduke, just block round block and I don't got so swift of that ship man.
Speaker 1Block or it's easy.
Speaker 4I mean it's it's it's easier than sitting up, giving a person a public platform and going back and forth with a motherfucker.
You ain't gonna never see in your lifetime.
You ain't gonna never run across this motherfucker.
They're ratting, they're raving, they're doing all this shit, and most of the time it's it's just for like I said, it's all for the sake of a motherfucker trying to get BA their glory on for a minute.
Speaker 3Well, I remember, if you remember brought one time, there was no access to artists like that.
You had to actually write a letter and if you could reach the actual artists right you didn't have the way you can just go send somebody a DM or go on somebody's posts and just say some old fucked up shit.
Speaker 1Man.
Speaker 3I think that we need to start giving the artists, need to start bringing that mystique bag and not giving everybody access.
Speaker 4I think that what you do well, I used to always tell only chill.
You can't make yourself accessible to everyone.
That's why I've torn down and the social media a lot.
I would used to be on there every day checking shit.
I can't even tell you the last time and before I posted the album cover, shit that I've been on Instagram in months, months could roll by, and I don't even think the look on the Instagram.
Most you know go on Facebook and little bit just because a lot of you football platforms on Facebook.
So other than that, man, you get worn out with with with with social media.
Speaker 1You get worn out.
Speaker 4You don't know who's genuine and hopefully you know you attract these people and people follow you because they're genuine fans.
Speaker 1But you have to be careful with shit, man, and so I chill.
Speaker 4You can't make yourself as accessible like you can't go to everybody's shit, You can't pull up at every function, you can't do interviews with everyone.
You can't go on everybody's podcasts or do beats for everybody or do versus for everybody, because you're burying yourself out.
And then motherfuckers be like this motherfucker again, you give me?
Who wants to hear this neck?
Speaker 1Again?
You get so you can make yourself as.
Speaker 4Accessible to everyone as you think you should because of the way social media has pushed the line of accessibility for the common person to be able to hit up a celebrity or or a musician or whatever.
It's open season.
You get me.
Speaker 1This is my last question for you.
I'm gonna see if you really answer.
Do you think that there are some ogs who should probably put the microphone down.
Speaker 4There's a lot of OG's who have already put the microphone down.
There's a lot of people that you don't see put me out music today, and I'm not gonna name names, but there's a few.
And then there's a few who feel like they still have the ambition to create good music because of what they're being forced to witness as far as uh, what they have created and started.
You know, there's a lot of niggas I look at as OG's and hip hop who could still put our music, you get me.
I would still I still listen to you, I still listen.
I'd still listen to some iced tea.
I'd still listen to some Chubb Dy.
I'd still listen to some Easy if he was alive, you feel me.
Uh, there's a lot I still listen to some dubs.
Some still fie is still putting our music, you give me.
There's certain niggas that I would still be true fans of putting out music.
And then there's some dudes who attempt and just not don't have it anymore, you get me, And.
Speaker 1So they might have to consider putting the mic down.
Speaker 3Yeah, And ain't nothing wrong with that either, man, y'all make sure, Matt y'all Walton, get the ice Cube album.
Man, go streaming.
Man, it's man up.
It's actually in a bad album.
I'll actually listen to it.
It got a few dough tongs on there, but more than a few.
It's there's different cubes in a different place, and we gotta stop it.
Man Cube fifty six years old.
No, we can't expect him to be Cube.
That was twenty one.
Speaker 4And music music is gonna go different.
Whatever you did in your teens and twenties, you're not expected to still be doing in your forties and fifties.
So thus you have to evolve with the age and what and what is expected now.
People are still gonna expect you to give them some of those true songs that they grew up with.
But you have to be able to adapt and overcome.
You feel me, Yeah, you know, speaking of elves before we go, you know, we go ahead this album release party.
When you think we do nothing release, he's party of a listener party.
Well, yeah, November party maybe, yeah, November.
I should be done mixing in November.
Speaker 1I know.
Speaker 4I said I was gonna try to drop the record Halloween, but we're getting a little more interest in the record.
I know some people might say who cares, And then there's some people who go, yeah, do what you do, keep going.
But yeah, for true fans and for a couple of people that we know, managers and whatever, we're gonna just put together a little listening session.
Niggas come through smoke, have a little sip, and I'm gonna bang the record.
Like I said, we had about forty songs right now, all forty gonna go on the project.
No, but we're gonna We're gonna put the dopest songs out, maybe eighteen songs, and then we're.
Speaker 1Gonna go from there.
Yeah, we gonna help, but we go with lost some general public people to come, but not a whole lot of them.
Just twol fans that you know will do.
Speaker 4Special invite you know, a motherfucker after text code a number or something to a code or inbox whatever, a special email and for you know, maybe have them answer some questions or see if they true fans, or see what's the oldest project they have of m C eights.
How you know, what's their collection looking like.
And then those who heard it, that's dope right there.
So y'all flood against the Chronicles page, y'all page.
We want to see y'all, We want to see them pictures.
Speaker 3And with the oldest project you got, I wonder if anybody else they gotta got asset.
That'd be crazy if they got what was that?
That was a blue cassette, wasn't it?
Yeah, the OZ Blue cascipt.
I'm gonna see if some one of y'all got the OZ blue cassette.
On that note, we out here, We check y'all out next week.
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