
·S12 E321
Episode 321
Episode Transcript
Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is not intended for all audiences.
Speaker 2Listener discretion is advised.
He came over in the corner with a hammer and just started beating me, unmercifully, just beating me and beating me, and the blood was discussing.
He said, all of you have just stitched.
Speaker 3Me, and I've got to kill you.
Speaker 4You've likely heard the phrase kindness is its own reward.
This is a belief many of us have.
They good deeds might bring a little good karma, and then helping someone in need is just the right thing to do.
Most of the time that belief proves true, but not always.
Sometimes kindness is twisted into something dark and ruthless.
A simple favorite can spiral into a choice that should never have been made.
There's another saying, one that speaks to the crueler side of fate.
No good deed goes unpunished, and in the rarest most brutal cases, an act of generosity doesn't only lead to regret.
It leads to suffering.
It leads to bloodshed, it leads to death.
Speaker 5This is Guardian Medical.
Do you dispatch for medical police or is it an different number?
Okay, we have a medical alert for client at forty four Cleveland Street.
Speaker 4At around two am on November sixth, twenty fifteen, in Youngstown, Ohio, nine to one one Dispatch received a call from the healthcare provider, Guardian Medical.
They requested that an ambulance be said to the home of one of their clients.
Speaker 1Okay, what's going on there?
Speaker 5We had the medical alert to go off and we did not be seeper response over the phone or over the two way And can you tell me about the patient here or honestly I'm showing is that she has MS and cannot walk and the age they have bound is forty one.
Speaker 1What's her name, Erica Huff.
Speaker 4After this call came in, an ambulance was quickly dispatched to the home of forty one year old Erica Huff.
Speaker 6Guardian Medical call, They want you to go to forty four Cleveland Street.
Speaker 1The alarm went off there.
Speaker 6And they didn't say what was wrong, right, No, they didn't make any contact with her.
Speaker 1It's a forty one year old female, Erica Huff.
She has MS and cannot walk.
Yeah, I think we've been there before.
Forty four Cleveland right.
Speaker 7Good.
Speaker 1More than thank you.
Speaker 4This wasn't the first time emergency services had been called to Erica's house, and on the surface, it seemed like just another routine call.
But in less than two hours, that assumption would be shattered.
What started as a simple ambulance dispatch spiraled into chaos.
Three ambulances, two fire trucks, and several police officers would descend on Erica's home.
Among the many people who arrived was a homicide detective.
Speaker 8My name is Ron Roadway, my official title.
In twenty fifteen, I was detective sergeant with the Youngstown Police Department, assigned to the homicide bureau.
Erica Huff was a forty one year old who resided on the south side of Youngstown.
She had a severe handicap and health issues.
She had multiple carosis ms, she was bedridden.
She didn't live by herself, but she had health aids with her.
Her mother was pretty active in her life, helping her out.
Speaker 4Erica Huff relied on a wheelchair to get around and needed daily assistance with even the most basic tasks like bathing, preparing meals, and doing laundry, things most of us take for granted.
Living with multiple sclerosis is no walk in the park.
The disease, which attacks the brain and spinal cord, can cause extreme fatigue, muscle weakness, severe pain, and a host of other debilitating symptoms.
Fortunately, Erica had a loving mother and stepfather who cared for as well as in home caregivers from the company comfort Keepers who checked on her regularly.
Perhaps the hardest part for Erica wasn't her own suffering, It was the fact she couldn't care for her five year old daughter.
Her illness made motherhood an uphill battle, forcing her to rely on her mom and stepdad to raise the little girl.
No matter how much she loved her child.
Multiple sclerosis had stolen the simple joys of being a hands on parent.
But despite all these challenges, Erica did her best to push through each day.
Then, on November sixth, twenty fifteen, her already challenging life turned into a nightmare.
Speaker 8On November sixth, twenty fifteen, the first call I Believe went out around two o'clock in the morning two o'clock am.
It was a medical alert from the home of Erica Huff on Cleveland Street.
EMTs and an ambulance responded to.
Speaker 4The home that morning.
Erica's life Alert necklace was activated triggering an ambulance dispatch.
For the next hour or so, all was quiet.
The responding paramedics never requested assistance or called in an update.
Then, at around two forty five am, nine to one one received a second call, this time from a man named Lonnie Johnson Town One.
Speaker 9Yeah, this is Lonnie, forty four Cleveland.
My wife come over because of my daughter.
Speaker 10Her daughter's along with a house, and so she came over here to see what's going on.
And then it was taking so long.
Each time I called, nobody answered.
So I came over here and she hollered, run run, and she screamed aloud, and I'm not gonna set the door, but the lights are off.
Now.
Speaker 1I don't know what's going on in that house.
Speaker 9I don't want to go in there.
And some that and happened.
Speaker 10I need to cop to come to forty four Cleveland Street in Youngstown, Ohio.
Speaker 1Okay, are you still there?
Though?
Speaker 10Yeah, I'm I'm I'm about maybe a two or three colleagues away from that house.
Because Ronnie Johnson Jr.
Speaker 1She screamed and told me.
Speaker 11To run run Lonnie, run, And.
Speaker 10I went to go to the door and I turned around and called come back and call you guys cause something and then the light everything is off in that house.
The light's off.
Speaker 9I don't know what's going on.
I need some help.
Speaker 1Okay, Wellsten, tomw okay, ca very please.
Speaker 4Following Lonnie's call, police were sent to Erica's house, but their arrival wasn't as fast as Lonnie had hoped.
Speaker 1Yankstown nine on one.
Speaker 10Yeah, I just called out long ago and asked him for a police to come the forty fourth Cleveland Street.
Speaker 12They're on their way.
Speaker 1Okay, oh wow, okay, okay bye.
Speaker 4Growing impatient, Lonnie called nine one one a second time.
Meanwhile, dispatchers were struggling to understand why police were being sent to the same address where an ambulance had already been dispatched.
Why hadn't they heard anything from the paramedics on scene.
Speaker 6Did you transport the lady from forty four Cleveland or Cleveland?
Speaker 13Oh that was the medical warm Yeah.
Speaker 14No, it was false alarm.
Speaker 1Oh okay, it was a false alarm.
Once we finally go out there, it was false.
They didn't take her nowhere.
Speaker 4Strangely, the ambulance paramedics reported the initial call as a false alarm, but when police showed up about an hour later.
It was immediately obvious that something was terribly wrong.
Smoke was pouring out of Erica's windows.
Her house was on fire.
Officers quickly requested fire trucks and more ambulances.
Speaker 1I think we need you back at forty four Cleveland.
Speaker 15Okay, what's going on there?
Speaker 1Okay?
I sent you guys there before for an alarm, and now the police were called there.
Speaker 6Some guy called the police there and they're saying there's a deceased female.
Speaker 1Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 6They got the fire department on the way there now and to gain entry to get into then too ambulances.
I don't know what's going on, and I think for two yes.
Speaker 4Not long after arriving on scene, the responding police officers made a chilling discovery.
They found a dead body.
Speaker 1I still don't know.
Speaker 6He was saying there was a dead body there, didn't I asked for the fire department, and then I asked for another ambulance.
Speaker 8Yeah.
Speaker 16Now markets got unseen and said that there's an occupied structure fire there.
Speaker 1We only sent one truck.
We didn't call for no.
Speaker 8Yeah, now they're calling for another a go on.
Speaker 7Now they're requesting ladder truck and battalion too.
So I'm not sure exactly what's going on.
I just wanted to give you a headtipths Inspire Department is involved and there's a dead body there.
Speaker 4As more cops, firefighters, and paramedics arrived, dispatchers scrambled to gather information, trying to make sense of the chaos, but one detail stood out.
The original emergency call had been dismissed as a false alarm.
But why what had actually happened with the first ambulance?
Speaker 17What do they have going on there?
Speaker 1Okay, they got a medical alarm.
Speaker 18They fed at fifty five to fifty five, got there, said it was a false alarm, goes they're not something door, somebody says run, he calls unknown trouble.
They get there and say they have a dead female.
They have a dead female there, apparently that's what they officer said when they got there.
Okay, that's all they know that a dead femail enough.
Speaker 6How did you guys determine that it was a false alarm on Cleveland Street?
Speaker 16They actually, our courage just told us that a thirty something or so.
Your old male he answered the door and said everything's fine.
Speaker 15It was a false alarm.
Speaker 6Thirty something ish year olds he may have thirty something year old male right.
Speaker 1Answered the door and said everything was okay.
It was a false Yeah.
Speaker 4It turned out that when paramedics reached Erica's home, a man waved them off, insisting there was no emergency.
Without verifying anything, the paramedics left, never checking on Erica, never stepping inside her house.
That decision would prove to be disastrous.
Eventually, Detective Ron Roadway arrived on the scene and spoke with the responding officers.
It began trying to make sense of the mayhem.
Speaker 8Officers were dispatched to the Cleveland Street residents.
When they arrived, they of course were going to run the primitive house.
They heard and then noticed that the air conditioning y'ared out of one of the bedrooms was being pushed out.
Speaker 1We got there.
It was weird.
Speaker 17You hear the alarm going off, and we go to the back and then Thowe was trying to push out the air conditioner in the back.
Speaker 1Uh huh.
Speaker 7And we opened the.
Speaker 17Window and ripped the air conditioner out, pulled this woman out and she was bloody head to toe, and then the other woman within their dead.
Speaker 8And that's when they made entry into the house and discovered two victims in the house.
Speaker 4As officers approached the back of the burning home, they spotted movement.
A person was trying to escape the house by pushing an air conditioner out of a window.
Police rushed to assist, pulling a bloody woman from the bedroom window.
She'd been beaten nearly to death.
Inside that same room, lying on the floor and surrounded by flames, was another woman.
She was dead, her body was battered, her skin singed by the growing fire.
The police pushed into the house through the back door.
In the dining room, they found yet another person, a man collapsed under a table, seemingly unconscious.
Speaker 17Our guys went there for unknown trouble.
Founded deceased female, fears to be beaten to death.
Found another female beat almost to deaf.
Found a male almost almost dead.
They not really sure what happened with him.
And their house was on fire.
Somebody set the house on fire trying to.
Speaker 1Cover it up.
Speaker 17No shit, Yeah though, fd's trying to put the fire out without disturbing the crime.
Speaker 7Scene too much.
Speaker 1But we got at least one dead right now and.
Speaker 7Two that are circling the drain.
Speaker 4In total, three people were pulled from Erica's burning home, two women and a man.
One of them had already lost their life, and the two others were rushed to a nearby hospital.
As firefighters worked to put out the fire, Detective Ron Roadway prepared for what he knew would be a long, grueling investigation.
By the time the case was closed, multiple charges had been filed, including murder and attempted murder, and in the end, thanks to the relentless efforts of investigators, a violent and ruthless killer would face the ultimate punishment.
On the morning of November sixth, twenty fifteen, an ambulance was dispatched to the home of forty one year old Erica Huff, who suffered from multiple sclerosis, but when the paramedics arrived, a man outside the house waved them off, insisting there was no emergency and that Erica was fine.
They left without ever stepping inside.
Speaker 6Okay, Originally, at two o'clock we got a call from the medical alarm people.
Speaker 1Guardian Medical said that there was an.
Speaker 6Alarm and they didn't have any contact with the person that living at that house, so I had to send an ambulance.
Speaker 1There was a medical alarm.
Speaker 6The ambulance responded and they cleared it.
Some guy answered the door when they got there and said that it was a false alarm.
Everything was okay and send them away, and then all hell broke loose.
Speaker 4Shortly after paramedics drove away, a chilling nine to one one call came in.
This time it wasn't a request for an ambulance, it was a call for police.
Speaker 6And then almost an hour later I looked up in the addresses on the screen again, this guy named Ronnie call and he said that he got to the door somebody yelled run.
Speaker 1The house was dark and he didn't know what was going on.
So that's when she put in unknown trouble.
Speaker 4Officers responded to the call, unsure of what they were walking into.
When they arrived, they found part of the house was on fire.
Before the flames spread, they managed to pull two women from the home.
Both had been savagely beaten, their bodies drenched in blood.
One of them was dead and the other was barely clinging to life.
Eventually, a Youngstown, oh Ohio prosecutor joined the investigation, and the deceased woman's identity was confirmed.
It was Erica Huff.
Speaker 12My name is Don Candello Mesa.
In twenty fifteen, I was the chief trial Counsel for the Mahoning County Prosecutor's Office.
In twenty fifteen, Erica Huff was forty one years old.
She was a mother, a sister, a daughter, as she lived in Youngstown, Ohio.
She had debilitating MS and she was in a wheelchair at that point.
She hadn't always been in a wheelchair, but at that point she was, and she had some home health care aids that would come and help her get ready for bed and cook and do other things around the house.
She had a five year old daughter who stayed with her parents, also in Youngstown, and she would visit often with her daughter, but she needed care to help her do everything from day to day.
Speaker 4The woman who had survived the brutal attack was Erica's mom, sixty eight year old Denise Johnson.
She had been beaten nearly to death before the fire broke out.
Speaker 12Denise Johnson was Erica Huff's mother.
She was retired, I believe at the time, but she had taken on a lot.
So when Erica went to a wheelchair and had to sort of give up custody of her child to her parents, Denise had retired and she was with Erica's stepfather at the time, Lonnie Johnson, and they lived in Youngstown and took care of Denise's daughter.
Speaker 4Erica's five year old daughter depended on her grandmother Denise and her stepgrandfather, Lonnie Johnson for care Erica's illness made it impossible to raise the little girl alone, and her parents took on the role of primary caregivers while also assisting Erica with her daily needs.
They were devoted, loving people, but on that horrific morning, tragedy struck.
Erica was found dead in her bedroom, beaten so severely that she never stood a chance, and as if that wasn't enough, the killer had set the house on fire to cover up the crime.
With Denise barely alive and rushed to the hospital, police turned to the only person left the question, Erica's stepfather, Lonnie Johnson, at seventy six years old.
He was brought to the station for an interview with the homicide detective Ron Roadway.
Speaker 19From what we understand, your wife's daughter, your stepdaughter.
Her name is Erica huff Aza Gras and she lives at forty four Cleveland Street.
Speaker 20She suffered from MS Is that correct?
Yeah, she has okay, pretty bad.
Advanced her some wheelchair to the bulls to the wheelchair okay, and she can't walk.
She had people coming even clean her up, and she can't even walk.
No, she can't take a step.
Speaker 19And I believe comfort Keepers is one of the companies that comes in and takes.
Speaker 14Care of her.
Speaker 4Detectives started with routine background questions before shifting to what really mattered.
The morning of the attack.
Annie explained that he'd been asleep at home when it all began.
Speaker 19And it's my understanding somewhere shortly around two o'clock this morning, your stepdaughter wears a medical alert, and that medical alert went off.
Rural Metro Ambulance Company was notified, and your wife was notified.
Speaker 14Is that correct.
I'm assuming you folks were sleeping when you got the call.
Oh yeah, okay.
And then your wife gathered herself together and went over to the house.
Speaker 9Yes, she said, on the wool and turned that alarm off.
Speaker 15Now doesn't go awful lot?
Speaker 14Is that something what happened every now and then?
Speaker 9But she went over the forty and pushed a button, you know, took care of it, right.
Speaker 21But she said that you stay home with the granddaughter, Erica's daughter and stays with us ninety five percent of the time, right, And she said, you stay with her because I don't want to wake up and we're both gone, right, And I said okay.
Speaker 4When Erica's life alert necklace was triggered, the healthcare company Guardian Medical was notified, as was Erica's mom.
Without hesitation, Denise got out of bed, got dressed, and rushed out to check on her daughter.
Before she left, she told Lonnie to stay behind so that Erica's daughter wouldn't be left home alone.
He agreed, but as time passed and Denise didn't return, Lonnie grew uneasy.
Something felt wrong.
He decided to go to Erica's house himself.
Speaker 11About fifteen to twenty minutes so, I said, you know, let me get in the truck in gold and see what's going on.
Speaker 14When you first got there, he walked up to the front door.
That's right, okay.
Did you go in the house.
Did you knock on the door?
Speaker 9No?
Speaker 11I went to reach for the door to open it and thought it was over right, and she said no, run.
Speaker 14Did you see your wife?
Speaker 12Just hear her?
Speaker 11I just heard her, okay, So you never actually made it through the threshold, and made it through the threshold.
Speaker 14Was the door completely closed the entire time you were there.
I didn't get a chance to touch it.
I went to reach for it was closed.
Speaker 9Yeah, it was closed, Yes, sir, it was closed.
Speaker 14And basically what you heard was run, Lonnie, Run run.
I told you to run.
Speaker 19And so now when you when you heard her say that, I mean, you automatically assumed there was something something wrong.
Speaker 11So I turn around and I parked the car and I called nine one one.
Speaker 4As Lonnie approached Erica's front door, he heard Denise's voice, but her words were garbled and frantic.
He thought she was telling him to run.
Later he would be told that she was actually screaming for help, but in that moment, all he heard was the urgency panic.
Turned and ran and called nine one one.
By the time police arrived, the house was in flames.
Speaker 12They respond to the house, they go around the back.
They see some smoke coming out of the window.
They're able to tell that an air conditioner unit was partially pushed out the window.
They then removed that air conditioning unit and pull Erica's mom from the window.
Speaker 4Officers pulled the Nise from the burning home.
She was barely alive, her body battered and soaked in blood.
Then they found Erica.
Speaker 12They were able to go back in that room or see in that room that there's another body laying on the floor.
They put that fire out and or partially put that fire out, and they're able to tell that Erica is now deceased.
Speaker 8When she was found, a fire hadn't been set in the bedroom where she was at.
She was burned.
She did have some severe blunt force trauma.
We later found out that she had been stomped on severely on her stomach.
There was a lot of internal bleeding, which is one of the causes of death, and she had also been strangled.
Speaker 12The corner testifies that she had elacerated liver, broken ribs, and evidence that she had been kicked in her stomach or stomped on, and then she had blunt force to her head.
And then she had the ligature marks and the ligature was still around her neck when she was laying on the floor in her room.
Speaker 4As police moved towards the backyard, something strange caught their attention.
They caught a glimpse of a man who had closed the back door When.
Speaker 12They come around the back door to see if there's anyone else in the house, they're met by a male trying to come out the door.
He then pulls the door shut on them, and then they have to break in the door, and they find that mail hiding under the dining room table with a like a duffel bag next to him.
Speaker 4It didn't take long for police to realize what was happening.
The man had been trying to escape, but the police had arrived too quickly, trapping him inside.
Speaker 1Well, next guy, I was laying near the boro.
Speaker 8We got here.
Speaker 1Oh, I think we got here.
Speaker 21Too quick because when they got here, they said, look there's somewhere at dinner you shut the back door.
Speaker 4Officers forced the door open and entered the smoke filled room.
Lying under the dining room table was a man in his forties.
His name was Lance Hunley.
Speaker 12Forty six year old Lance Hunley was from Washington, d c.
He was coming and staying in Youngstown.
He was brother to Erica Huff's child's father.
So Erica Huff had a child with Greg Hunley.
Speaker 19This gentleman Lance, whose name is Lance Hunley.
But according to what you folks and Johnathan we're telling us his brother is the father of your little grandchild.
That's true, Okay, So there is some connection with this guy.
And apparently from what we're getting, he had nowhere to live, and your daughter has allowed him to come and live with her for the last three to four weeks that graduating.
Speaker 14I noticed on his idea that he had an address in Warren, Ohio.
Speaker 9Well, that was where he was staying with his brother.
Speaker 19Is that where the grandchild's father stays.
Speaker 14He was staying with him.
Speaker 11He was staying with him, and he said it was too many people over there, so he couldn't sleep because he was working at night, right, And so that's when he asked, Erica, can I come and stay with you.
Speaker 4As investigators dug into Hundley's past, they uncovered his connection to Erica.
He was the brother of Erica's daughter's father.
When Hunley first moved to Youngstown, he stayed with his brother, but that arrangement fell apart.
Needing a place to live, he turned to Erica.
She agreed to take him in.
That was a decision that would later cost her everything.
Speaker 9Now, over the.
Speaker 19Last three or four weeks, I mean, has there been anything that Eric has said I mean, was she concerned about this.
Speaker 9Guy at all?
Speaker 14Did she say anything about erratic behavior?
Speaker 11Said to Denise and I that he was complaining about the girls that come to clean her up.
He said they're not your friends.
He said they got to do their.
Speaker 9Job, and he complained about that a couple of times.
Speaker 14But Erica, I mean, in the last three or four weeks, has not complained about it.
Speaker 11Almost things she complained about him trying to tell.
Speaker 14Her what the comfort keepers.
Speaker 9What the comfort peoples, and that's her job to take care of them.
Speaker 19But she never like said anything like I'm afraid of this guy.
He's not hating me, nothing like that.
Has he ever had words with your wife before?
Speaker 14No, No, not that I know of.
Speaker 12No.
Speaker 4Right at first, Hunley wasn't the worst housemate, but he did have a troubling personality.
Erica's in home healthcare workers later revealed that he was controlling and bossy.
They claimed that when they rejected his unwanted advances, his behavior turned hostile, and one of them eventually refused to go to Erica's house if Hunley was there.
Erica eventually realized she couldn't keep him around and planned on asking Lance to leave.
Speaker 8Hey, listen, we're going to be getting warrants on this guy at the hospital this morning.
Speaker 7Okay, okay.
Speaker 1If he's get being treated or relief, it would be do.
Speaker 8You know, I don't know he's being there, he's under observation.
Speaker 1I don't think that personally.
Speaker 15I don't think there's anything wrong with him.
Speaker 1Gammon, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4After being pulled from the burning home, Hunley was taken to the hospital for smoking elation, but as soon as doctors cleared him, he was escorted straight to the Youngstown police station for questioning.
Speaker 22Okay, I am detective stars at wrong roadway and your name, sir is Lance l A n Cezar.
Yes, Lance, could get take a few minutes and leave that alone and talk with her.
Speaker 14Sure, multi tell well or we don't want you to multitask, We don't want to talk to you and pay attention.
Then you can look at that all you want.
Sir.
Speaker 4Funny knew he was in trouble when detectives began the interview.
He feigned distraction, pretending to be preoccupied with his hospital paperwork.
There was an obvious attempt to downplay the gravity of a situation.
Perhaps he thought acting indifferent would convince them he wasn't capable of brutally murdering a disabled woman.
It didn't work.
Speaker 14Would you like to speak with us or about this incident?
Yeah?
Why am I here?
Okay?
Well, we're going to explain that to you.
Okay, We're gonna explain everything to you.
Lance.
Speaker 13Where do you live, sir?
Well, right now, I was staying at urga house house huff.
Speaker 14You were staying there?
Yes?
And how long are you staying this?
Sir?
Beautiful?
Buttom off, how do you know Erica?
How did you come to live there?
Speaker 13Her daughter is my niece.
My brother and her head a relationship.
Speaker 14I know you've been living there around a month.
But how long have you known Erica?
Have you known it for years?
My niece would be six.
I've been knowing her about eight eight o.
My brother, I don't know, maybe eight years.
Speaker 18Eight years?
Speaker 14Your Mary, do you have a pretty good relationship with her?
Speaker 15Of course?
Speaker 14Okay.
Speaker 4Detectives started gathering background details, then they cut to the chase the events leading up to Erica's death.
Speaker 14Were you at home at forty four Cleveland last evening?
Excuse me?
Were you home at forty four Cleveland last evening?
At Thursday evening Thursday evening, I was in and out.
Speaker 19Okay, but at some time did you come home for the night, like to go to bed and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 14Oh yeah, let's let's just speed it up.
Speaker 13Man.
Speaker 14When I got home?
What time did you get home last night?
Speaker 13What happened?
Speaker 9Yes?
Speaker 14I got home.
Speaker 23I don't know.
Speaker 14I left the bar?
What bar?
Speaker 15So seven time?
Speaker 14So you went from the seven tavern to home?
That's right right up the street.
Okay?
Do you remember about what time that might have been closing time?
Or didn't look at my why he's doing the slightest idea.
Speaker 4Fuddally claimed that he'd spent the night drinking at a bar before coming home.
Beyond that, he refused to say much of anything else.
Speaker 14When you got home, you have your own bedroom, there is that?
Speaker 9Correct?
Speaker 14That's correct?
Okay, Erica has her own bedroom.
That's correct.
Speaker 9When you got home?
Speaker 14Was Erica awake asleep?
Speaker 13Do you never comes here?
It gives triggy.
Okay, now my question to you, and I'm gonna arrest at this time?
Yes, okay, okay, I think this and I'm I kind of figured out something from the police office.
Speaker 14Eric had died.
Yes, I think I need to get a lawyer.
I think I need to stop question.
Speaker 4Realizing he was cornered, Humley shut down the interview.
He asked for a lawyer, but before the interview ended, he made one bold, desperate claim.
Speaker 13But I will tell you this, I wasn't the only one in that house.
Else was in the house.
I don't know the person who choked me out.
You just told us you didn't want to talk to us.
Speaker 14It that's it.
Speaker 24And he talked to us, y'all do y'all job.
I just but you understand you either talk to us or don't.
You don't want to speak right, I'm I'm arrested for murder.
Apparently, yes you are, so I need yeah.
Speaker 14Okay, well let's see Saul communications this point though.
Okay, I just wanted this.
You know there was another person in the house.
Speaker 4This claim would become the foundation of Hunley's defense.
He insisted he wasn't the killer.
Someone else, he said, had murdered Erica and nearly beaten Denise to death, but the detectives weren't buying it, and thanks to Denise's survival, they didn't have to lance.
Speaker 8Hunley had been at a south Side bar.
According to him, we did go and interview people at the bar.
But Lance Hunley had returned to the residence on Cleveland Street, and it appears that Lance Hunley had strangled Erica, had taken her, had thrown her out of bed, beat her and stomped her with his feet, I mean kicked her so badly she had internal bleeding inside her stomach.
Lynn had gone to the garage and got a gas can spread gasoline around the bedroom.
During this time, Bennise Johnston had got the report of the life alert had come to the house.
When she entered the house, she observed Lance Hunley standing there with a gas can.
Asked him what he was doing with the gas can.
She took the gas can from Hunley took it out to the garage.
When she entered back into the kitchen area from the garage, Hunley attacked her with a claw hammer and hit her numerous times in the head.
Told Denise he had killed he had killed her daughter, and was going to kill her.
Actually produced a knife at this time and put it to her throat.
Drug Denise into the bedroom and threw her down on top of her daughter, who was smoldering from the from the fire.
Speaker 4Lance Hunley had savagely beaten Eric a Huff, murdering her in cold blood.
When Denise arrived to check on her daughter, he turned on her as well, intending to finish her off, but before he could, Lonnie showed up, forcing Hunley to scramble.
Then came the police.
Lance's attempt to set the house on fire and erase the evidence had failed, so the police arrived.
Speaker 8Before Henley could make it out of the house.
So Hunley determined he cleaned up, put some clothing in a bay of the clothing with blood on it, and he laid down in the dining room, and when officers arrive, he acted like he was a victim of his crime.
Speaker 4Detective Ron Roadway didn't have to speculate because Denise Johnson survived.
Though she was critically injured, she lived to tell him exactly what happened that morning.
Speaker 8Denise Johnson did survive the attack.
She had been hit numerous times in the head with a hammer.
Believe her injuries included a fracture's skull severe lacerations.
I mean, when I.
Speaker 25Saw her at the hospital, she looked horrific, but by the next day, I mean she was quite a strong woman, and I mean was able to come back putty quickly from the injuries and was very very helpful in the outcome of this case.
Speaker 4Later, Denise would give an official recorded statement, and nearly three years after the attack, she would stand in front of a jury base her daughter's killer and tell them the truth.
In the end, the jury had to make a decision not about guilt, but about whether or not Lance Hunley deserve to die.
In twenty eighteen, prosecutors in Youngstown, Ohio, were preparing for a murder trial a lot of that going around in Ohio.
Their target was forty eight year old Lance Hunley.
He was accused of savagely beating forty one year old Erica Huff to death and nearly doing the same to her mother, sixty eight year old Denise Johnson.
Given the brutality and the heinous nature of the crimes, prosecutors had made their decision.
This wasn't just a murder case.
This was a death penalty case.
Speaker 12When you have the defendant or the suspect at the scene with a double bag full of his bloody clothes and he killed and attempted to kill two or more persons, this is one of those cases where we knew the death penalty specification might be on the table.
Speaker 4Of course, before the trial could begin, Hunley needed a lawyer and he needed a defense.
Neither would come easily.
Speaker 26Hunley initially claimed he was insane at the time, only to later change his mind.
He fired his first set of lawyers after they pressed to have his competency evaluated.
In July of last year, after his new attorneys asked that he be tested again.
Speaker 15The issue has to be resolved, cannot be abandoned.
Speaker 26I think we all know that I am having some trouble convincing mister Hunley.
If such, Hunley became so angry in court he had to be restrained.
Speaker 4As the trial approached, Hunley made things as difficult as possible.
He was combative, disruptive, and openly hostile towards the court.
He had no interest in working with the public defenders assigned to his case.
Speaker 27Until you can submit to a competency examine, evenish, until you submit to a competency examination, that that right didn't.
Speaker 28And you're the extra set of company of that which I don't.
Speaker 14I never wanted to fush.
Speaker 1I understand that, and trying to me.
Speaker 14You are trying to make new things that I don't want it.
If you want to do it or not, you're order.
Speaker 28I do now still in you.
Speaker 4After a second competency hearing, the court granted Hunley permission to change his insanity defense.
Why do they always think you're crazy when you're actually stupid?
Speaker 14Beats me?
Speaker 4But there was still the issue of him refusing to accept any of the attorneys provided.
Speaker 26To him this morning.
After firing his second set of lawyers.
Hunley insisted he could not work with anyone who was local.
Speaker 13But I simply asked you put out an exsurnance from Auti town, and you told me not.
Speaker 26But the judge said she'd changed her mind and would find Hunley a public defender from out of the area.
That seemed to satisfy him.
However, less than five minutes later, they were all back again, with the defendant asking how long it would take to find new lawyers.
The judge couldn't give him an answer.
Speaker 14I'll show you.
Speaker 26And even when the judge asked him a series of questions to see if Hundley knew what he was doing, he was insistent, figure.
Speaker 14That I'll figure that.
I am absolutely positive.
Speaker 4In the end, Hunley made a drastic decision to represent himself.
The court begrudgingly allowed it, appointing stand by counsel to assist if needed.
With that settled, jury selection began and soon the trial was under way.
Prosecutors went to work laying out their case.
Speaker 12We used the ambulance drivers to talk about who waved them off when they came to the door, and it was him, obviously who waved them off.
We used the coroner's testimony about what Erica's causes a manner of death was.
We used the police to talk about their investigation and all the different evidence that they collected.
We had DNA experts to talk about not only where Erica's DNA would have been, but also where Denise's blood was and where Lance Hunley's DNA was left.
And we have the detective kind of round up all the testimony at the end to kind of clean up and make all those connections as to why we think.
Speaker 28Humley did this in the first place.
Speaker 4The forensic and physical evidence against Hunley was overwhelming, but the prosecution had something even more powerful.
And I witnessed one of Hunley's victims had survived.
Erica's mom was alive to tell the story.
Speaker 22And Denise I was actually here Friday morning when you were in the emergency room, and.
Speaker 29I think you remember talking to me a little bit.
You were actually in very bad shape when I talked to you.
The doctors were just finishing stitching up at least six lacerations in your head and your forehead, but you were still conscious and you were able to talk to me, and you basically told me what had happened that day.
Speaker 15And the reason we're here now is we want to memorialize everything.
We put everything, especially in a homicide case.
We do it on GVD TAP.
Speaker 4Three years before Lance Hunley's trial began, Denise Johnson sat in a hospital bed, battered but alive.
It was twenty fifteen, just a few days after the nightmare that had unfolded in Erica's home.
Denise was recovering from the brutal attack that had left her daughter dead.
Despite the trauma, she spoke to Detective Ron Roadway in a recorded interview.
Speaker 15So I'm going to take you back to early Friday morning.
Speaker 19Now, I know the medical alert went off sometime a few minutes after two o'clock in the morning on Friday.
Speaker 15The sixth Rural Metro Ambulance was dispatched there.
They were called and you also recalled it.
Speaker 19You were a contacts and when you arrived, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 15You told me you actually have a key to the house and you went in.
Speaker 30Yes, when I opened the door, he was in the living room, and you say he, and I said, the life Alert people with the lifeline people called me, and I said, where's Eric.
Speaker 28He said, she's sleeping, but the room smelled full of gas.
I said, why is this gasolene?
Can even know the red container here in the living room.
I don't know what his.
Speaker 2Answer was that because I feistily said, gasoline belongs in the garage with the lawnmower.
So I walked the gasolene camp out to the garage, put it next to the lawnmower, and come back in to go to get ready to check on Erica.
Speaker 4Deni's had no idea what she was walking into that morning.
Erica was already dead, her life stolen in a horrific act of violence, and within moments of stepping into the house, and He's found herself face to face with her daughter's killer.
Speaker 2He came over in the corner with the hammer and just started beating me unmercifully, just beating me and beating me.
Speaker 28And he said, why did you come?
I said, first.
Speaker 2Alert told me to come, and I you know, and the blood was gushing so and he said, you need to make peace with the Lord.
You need to make peace.
I said, I have he and the blood was just gushing, and I said, Lance, why are you doing this?
He said, all of you have just ditched me and I've got to kill you.
And then he's beating and beating.
But I heard Lonnie's truck come.
I heard Lonie's truck come, but he was so busy crashing the hammer I did he didn't.
Speaker 28He didn't hear the truck.
Speaker 4At sixty eight years old, Denise fought back with everything she had, but she was up against a man consumed by rage.
Then through the chaos, she heard something, a familiar sound.
It was her husband's truck pulling up outside.
Speaker 14Your truck?
Speaker 11Is it gonna allowed Exhaustris, Yes, she's got phlegmatics on it.
Speaker 9It makes a little noise, so.
Speaker 14Like rumble rumble.
Speaker 9Oh yeah.
Speaker 17So In other words, okay, if she was inside the house, it would not be uncommon or and reasonable for her to hear.
Speaker 14The air truck pull up with the loud motor.
Speaker 15Yes, and that would be distinctive and she would know that you.
Speaker 12Yeah.
Speaker 9Matter of fact, when I went to the door, she hollowed Lonnie run and run.
Speaker 4Desperate, Denise screamed for help, but Lonnie misheard her.
Instead of help Lonnie help, he thought she was shouting at him to run.
That misunderstanding may have saved his life.
If Frannie had charged into the house instead of running for help.
There was no telling how much worse this could have been.
Only may have killed them both.
Of course, the terrible downside of that misunderstanding was that Denise was left alone in the house with Hunley, but.
Speaker 28He continued to beat me and scene forever.
Speaker 2And then he pulled out a switch blade after he broke the hammer my.
Speaker 14Head when he pulled it.
Speaker 15You saw him pull the switchblade out.
I know it was a very heck.
Did you feel him stab you?
No, because you know you have a stab wound under here.
Speaker 8Yeah?
Speaker 9Just he did stab you?
Speaker 28I think he did.
Speaker 15Yes, Yeah, we saw an emergency.
There was a puncture woe.
Speaker 2That okay, And then he started to joke me and dragged me into the living woman.
I fought and I fought and not finally coulding fighting, and he took my breath.
Speaker 4Hunley strangled Denise until she lost consciousness.
Then, as if disposing of garbage, he dragged her lifeless body into Erica's bedroom and tossed her on top of her daughter's corpse.
After dousing the room in gasoline, he struck a match and watched the fire begin to consume the evidence of his crimes.
But then something unexpected happened.
Denise started to wake up.
Speaker 28I realized I felt flames, so I started patting it out.
Speaker 2Then he came with some alcohol and threw it in my face, and then he walked away, and I went to the window and I started pulling the side of the ark, and I did pat my daughter.
Yes, I said, she's still warm, maybe she's still alive, right, you know.
And I said we've got to get out of here.
And and then I thought my jacket burning, so I took it.
Speaker 28Off at the wood Dale.
Speaker 2But then I reached for the window with the air conditioning thing he was and as I'm pulling the sides out, the police apparently were pulling heard.
Speaker 28Yes, they said, Mayam, he gotta.
Speaker 30I said, I'm ready to come just take me, and they pulled me through the window.
Speaker 4By the time police pulled Denise from the burning house, she was barely clinging to life, bloodied and gasping for air.
She used what little strength she had to plead with them to save Erica.
But deep down she already knew the truth.
Her daughter was gone, I said, but my daughter had said here because I wasn't sure.
Speaker 28I kind of knew that my heart she was.
Speaker 4Despite the trauma, Denise's account of what happened on that horrible morning never changed.
Three years later, in front of a courtroom packed with jurors, attorneys, and the man who had nearly killed her, she repeated the same truth she had given detectives.
She told them exactly what Lance Humley had done.
Speaker 26Today they had the mother of murder victim, Erica, on the witness stand.
When she returned, she says, Hundley began beating her about the head with a hammer.
She asked him why he was doing that, he said.
She claimed in front of the courtroom that Hunley admitted killing her daughter.
Speaker 7And was going to kill her too.
Speaker 4After laying out the physical evidence and presenting Denise's unshakable testimony, the prosecution rested their case, the time had come for Hunley to explain himself and present a defense.
Speaker 26Hunley told the jury he came to the area in August twenty fifteen and had been staying at Erica Huff's house on the South Side, paying her two hundred dollars a month.
On the night of November fifth, he'd gone to a couple bars, came back and smoked some marijuana with Erica and fell asleep watching TV.
Speaker 15I'm on the couch.
Speaker 24I couldn't see they face, okay, and there was choking me out from behind.
Speaker 26A Hundley says the attacker used chloroform on him and he blacked out.
Speaker 15Coming to in the kitchen, I started to war towards the back.
That's when I seen a guy come out of HER's room.
Speaker 14And if the gas came in.
Speaker 26Now groggy and frightened, Hundley claims he sees the victim lying on the floor of her bedroom.
Speaker 10And I.
Speaker 15Chucked her an.
Speaker 14I didn't feel the pause.
Speaker 4And they took the witness stand and launched into a bizarre theatrical performance.
According to him, a masked intruder had attacked him and knocked him unconscious with chloroform.
When he came to, he claimed Erica was already dead.
Speaker 14She told lads, it's not too late.
Speaker 15We can come up with something to tell the police.
Speaker 26Hundley says he then started hitting the elderly woman with a hammer, telling prosecutors during cross examination he was scared.
Speaker 14I was offended.
I was defending myself.
Speaker 1Oh yes.
Speaker 26Prosecutors pressed him, asking why, with the house filling with smoke, he didn't try to escape.
Hundley kept saying he didn't.
Speaker 10Know what to do.
Speaker 15I'm hunding the influence of chloroflum.
Speaker 26Although Hunley was rescued from the burning house, he says he never told anyone but his lawyer's this story for nearly three years, consisting today.
He never killed Erica Huff.
Speaker 4In a move as desperate as it was disgusting, Hunley pointed the finger at Denise Johnson.
He insinuated that she was somehow involved in her own daughter's murder, and that in a moment of panic, he had attacked her with a hammer.
The story was ridiculous and coherent.
Den it made no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 23Humbley, claiming this morning he was defending himself that he saw Denise Johnson carrying a gas can coming into the house, didn't know what was going on, and he grabbed a hammer and started hitting her with it, claiming to be defending himself.
Speaker 26But this morning, during closing arguments, prosecutors told jurors Humbley concocted the story, hoping to create doubt.
Speaker 31He beat her, He stomped on her, and then he strangled her.
He then had to get rid of the only witness who came to the house, Denise Johnson.
Speaker 4Hunley's defense was weak and almost laughable, and after closing arguments, the jury had their say.
Speaker 26After just three and a half hours of deliberation, jurders returned their verdicts shortly after two this afternoon.
Speaker 2We the jury find the dependent Lands Hunley guilty of aggravated murder and.
Speaker 28Violation of a hire us.
Speaker 26Humley sat motionless and quiet as the verdicts were read aloud, guilty in the premeditated death of Erica Huff, the attempted murderer of the victim's mother, and aggravated arson for setting fire to the crime scene.
Speaker 4The verdict surprised no one, except maybe for Hunley, guilty on all counts, but the jury had one more decision to make.
Would Lance get to live in the cozy little jail cell or would he pay the ultimate price for his crimes.
Speaker 26Just last week, a Mahoning County jury determined that a man from Youngstown should die for his crimes.
This morning, Judge Moore and Sweeney determined Lance Hunley offered absolutely nothing during his trials to offset that.
This morning, she upheld the jury's decision that he should die for the murder of Erica Huff back in November of twenty fifteen, as well as the attempted murder of Huff's mother than East Johnson.
Speaker 4Naturally, Hunley appealed the conviction and the death sentence.
In a unanimous decision, the Ohio Supreme Court upheld both.
As of April twenty twenty five, Lance Hunley sits on death row in Ross County, Ohio.
Of course, in today's world and in the state of Ohio, no execution date has been set, because haven't you heard suicidal empathies all the rage these days?
Despite the overwhelming evidence against him, only has never once admitted to what he did.
He probably never will, He's maintained, is in a sense, leaving the question of why unanswered I.
Speaker 12Think Lance committed this crime because Erica was pressuring him to leave and wanted him to leave, and he had nowhere else to go.
I don't know what was going on in his head that he felt he couldn't go back to Washington, d C.
Where he was from.
But apparently in his mind he was backed into a corner and this is the only way out.
Speaker 8What exactly triggered him, we don't know.
You know, he would not confess to this crime, but you know, we believe he was upset that she was asking to move out of the house.
Speaker 7Else.
Speaker 8You know, with my experience and what I felt on this case, he was the social path that he was.
He just you know, snapped and started, you know, strangling her and beating her.
No reason whatsoever they do what he did to such a severely handicapped woman.
Speaker 4Prosecutors and detectives have their theories about Hunley's motive.
They believe that Lance had been struggling financially, and when Erica told him that he had to move out, something inside of him snapped.
Ironically, if anyone had a right to feel beaten down by life, it was Erica.
Multiple sclerosis had stolen her ability to walk, her independence and even her ability to care for her own daughter.
But she never once let that turn her into a monster, not like Hunley, who, on the other hand, let his bitterness fester into something deadly.
That's what entitlement does to people.
They think they're owed by the world, and when they don't get what they want want, he decided to just go ahead and take it anyway.
After the attack, Erica's mother shared her own theory when that dug even deeper into what might have driven Hunley to kill.
Speaker 2Because we were not his friends.
We were everything I think he wanted and didn't have.
And then here I go a week before getting a b of and he says, well, why didn't you get a Mercedes?
I got what I wanted, you want and what I've worked.
Speaker 15For, And your husband worked all his life exactly.
Speaker 8Both your children are well educated college graduates working in.
Speaker 28Their lives, and we did we wanted.
Speaker 2Well, I'm getting want in this spring.
I said, well, you do what you want to do, you know, But he was I could see the resentment.
Speaker 7In his eyes.
Speaker 2He hated us.
We were everything in life that he may have wanted and didn't.
Speaker 4It seems that a toxic mix of jealousy, resentment, alcohol, and eviction pushed Hunley over the edge.
He brutally beat a disabled woman to death and then turned his fury on a sixty eight year old mother, nearly killing her as well.
Through it all, Hunley never stopped to consider one simple fact.
Erica was one of the only people in this world that had ever shown him kindness.
She'd given him a home when he needed one.
She didn't have to, but she did, and that kindness was repaid with disgusting, brutal violence.
Speaker 15I mean, the goodness of her their daughter allowed him to come there.
Speaker 19Yes, and he's been living there for about a month, right, and he even had his own bedroom there.
Speaker 8She was, I'm saying, think he just prayed upon her.
You know, I need somewhere to live.
I'm your I'm your daughter's uncle.
You know, just preyed upon her vulnerability.
And you know, probably she was probably a nice, sweet person, you know, felt felt bad.
Speaker 14For the guy.
Speaker 4But like many of us, Erica Huff believed in kindness.
She thought helping someone in need was the right thing to do.
It's what all those PBS specials tried to teach us.
Remember, But when she opened her door to a monster named Lance Hundley.
She unknowingly let evil inside her home, inside her life, and then it took her life, nearly silencing her mother as well in a brutal attempt to erase the truth.
But Denise survived.
She fought through unbearable pain to tell her daughter's story, to ensure that Hunley would never harm another person again, and perhaps to teach all of us a very important lesson.
In the end, her voice put him exactly where he belonged on death row.
Erica's murder is a chilling reminder that evil doesn't always announce itself.
Sometimes it wears the face of someone you trust, and sometimes the kindest hearts pay the highest price.
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