What happens when a leading banker groomed in the disciplines and attitudes of the private sector finds himself in charge of the NHS in England? 

Surely he will be highly sceptical at least, suspicious and critical at best? 

But no - the story of Richard Meddings the outgoing NHS England Chair is of a Damascene conversion. 

In this podcast with Niall Dickson and Roy Lilley, Richard reveals himself as an arch defender of the NHS at every level including the achievements of the about to be abolished NHS England.