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NFL Fantasy Cheat Sheet: Tony Pollard vs. Tyjae Spears

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Speaker 1

Wow, Wow, Oh, look at that.

Speaker 2

That was hot.

Shout out to our l Q man, LaQuan put that together a little intro, because before we were starting the show and the cameras will come on, we'd stare at it for a second and then we'd start talking, and that was weird and awkward.

So now we're weird and awkward after the whole thing goes off, but we're not staring at the camera without saying anything.

Welcome to the other edition of the Fantasy Sheet Sheet.

I'm Marcus, that's LaQuan, that's Michael Fellows.

How we feeling on this Thursday?

Feeling good?

It's Friday Junior?

Is how what we call it now?

Friday Junior?

I kind of like, yeah, all right, we have to play stuff to talk about some some fantasy related things, some you know, broadcasting type things.

But first we should we started a little field trip.

Is that where we're starting this week?

Probably?

Okay, we had a little field trip earlier this week.

The three of us got together go see Godzilla and Kong the New Empire.

I know we haven't started the Florio Film Festival.

Maybe that becomes a staple on this show as opposed to the podcast we do it on this show, we talk about movies or something like that.

I'm not sure, but uh, Floria your quick review of the new Godzilla Kong flick.

Uh.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's chaotic, it's crazy, it's unrealistic.

Speaker 2

All of that.

Speaker 3

It's everything that I sign up for when going into that theater.

I knew what it was going in and I enjoyed it like a little bit too much, cgi maybe for my liking, but I look, they make you love monsters, and that's that's all I can ask for.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I love the chaos, the monsters, you know, cang, you know, beating another monkey with the monkey.

Speaker 2

It was like one of the like moments I was just like, did that really just happen?

Like was my personal favorite?

Speaker 3

You?

Speaker 2

Oh my god?

The Godzilla Suplex is probably top tier right there.

It really was sort of like Monster Royal Rumble, huh, Like just you had all these monsters and like here's the don't if you're gonna go see it, don't go in thinking about it.

Like it's not a no, it's not a plot heavy movie.

I mean they talk a lot, but like, don't don't try to think about what's happening.

Just just enjoy large monsters rumbling on screen with one another.

Speaker 3

My favorite part about it, as someone who's watched all of them the Godzilla movies, is like in the first one, they're like, these things have been here for hundreds of thousands of years and we never knew and now like a new one wakes up every other week, right, and.

Speaker 4

They have locations of all of them, like they're.

Speaker 2

All over the world.

They're popping out.

There's a million of them all over the place, and they wake up and they fight, and then you know, uh, some humans do some things and at least keep most of humanity from getting destroyed.

Although the monsters do a pretty good job on the cities of Rome and Rio dejan Arro.

So those cities, according in if this movie is Cannon, those cities are mostly not on the map anymore.

No, they're gone.

You know it's gonna happen, right, hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Speaker 3

Vin Diesel is gonna be the one that takes Don Touretto is the one that takes out Godzilla.

It's gonna meet in Rome.

It's coming full circle.

Speaker 2

I mean, yeah, no, absolutely, That's kind of the way this series ends, is you know, it's I got a fast and furious Jurassic Park, Godzilla all like three crossovers, and that's how all those series are gonna end.

So anyway, Yeah, he's standing tall over Godzilla and Kung.

I mean seven out of ten, Floria, what would you give it though?

That's mine?

Speaker 3

That's about right.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Look, I am a fan of bad like my friends always make fun of me, like, oh Floria looks bad?

Yes I do.

I want to be entertained for two hours when I put it on a movie that's all experience chaos like it doesn't have to make sense.

Speaker 2

No, it doesn't have to make This movie doesn't make sense at all.

So if that's if you're not if you don't need it to make sense, enjoy this movie.

Go buy some popcorn and enjoy the enjoy the afternoon.

That's all I'm gonna say about it.

Also to you that both of you have to go see Godzilla minus one.

I didn't see that.

Wow.

Actually have some people in the chat too, Grayson Red saying, fun fact, the new pink form of Godzilla was based off Goku.

I didn't know that.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah, actually I learned something new today.

Thank you.

Shout out to Grayson Red for that one.

It is a you know, pretends to be a football show here that we do so at least I have won.

Like some of my fantasy related story saw this earlier Today story about the Titans backfield, right, they bring in Tony Pollard in free agency, and they already have ty J.

Spears, they lose Dereck Henry and offensive coording to Nick, Holtz says he thinks they are a kind of a one A one B situation.

I feel like we sort of were afraid of this when Tony Pollard came in, But now LQ hearing this out loud, how do you feel about this backfield?

It's a little nasty.

Speaker 4

I would take the value year obviously in drafts, you know, with Spears being that he's explosive back.

I think Tony Pollard will be what he was last season, not much of a guy that's gonna break away the gap between him and Spears, so they will be utilized, you know, on the field at the same time on a one B like he said, but it's gonna be a fantasy nightmare for a lot of managers.

Speaker 2

I mean, Flora, I'm assuming you're just taking the guy who's cheapest in drafts.

Speaker 3

At this point, I might just stay away altogether.

I my fear is that this is going to be a lot like the Pittsburgh Steelers last year.

And I went back and looked at both of these guys and like, they are very They're as pass catchers, as runners, they're all they're very similar.

So I was excited for Spears before they signed Pollard, but they gave Pollard money, so I don't think he'll ever go away.

Like, I don't think it's possible that Spears just outplays him and they give him a whole bunch of work.

I keep saying, I wouldn't be surprised that this is like the Steelers last year, where not a great offense, there's two running backs that eat off of each other's plate, and like there'll be some weeks where you're like, oh, maybe I could start this guy, but overall, you're never going to feel great about it, and they're probably both going.

Speaker 2

To reduce each other to be RB three's that's my fear.

But right now, at least in Best Ball Drafts, Spears going about thirty spots later than Pollard colored the RB twenty two.

Spears the RB thirty four in Best Ball drafts.

It's just so weird to me that they have two guys that have very similar skill sets and how they're going to fit them into an offense that, let's be honest, was not the most prolific last year when it came to scoring.

And look, they lost their best player.

I know Derek Henry was getting up there a little bit getting older, but he was still their best offensive player.

He's gone.

Now we're not sure what will Levis can Cot can totally be.

It is not the most stable situation right now in Tennessee question in the chat from Maggie.

So, I wonder if it'd be possible to talk a little bit about how you ended up as fantasy analysts and as hosts of this podcast.

Oh, this was aicular show.

We just came up with it on our own.

I think this was like a brain child of LaQuan and Florio and I'm just sort of along for the ride.

But as for how you got here, Floria, your quick, your quick elevator story about how you landed here.

Speaker 3

I had a lot of different jobs in this space.

Before I worked at the NFL network, I was doing like a radio show gig on the side Fantasy Sports.

I was writing for like The Athletic and some payment like the New York Daily News, stuff like that, and then I just saw an NFL research job for Fantasy applied for thinking it was in Manhattan.

It wasn't moving out to La Shout out to Grand bar Field because when he was here, he was like, you should write for us one hundred percent.

So I started writing.

Then I started doing player stories for the app, and then COVID happened and you guys had a little bit of a shortage and they were like, you want to jump on Fantasy Live and I was like, hell, yes, And I kind of been off the ground running ever since.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what's your story?

My story, man.

Speaker 4

I was just hanging out with a couple of friends back home.

You know, we started a fantasy league.

I ended up winning that league the first year.

And then people started asking me questions at work amongst my friends and stuff, and I made my own YouTube channel and kind of the rest is history where I just started putting, you know, my content on platforms.

I started off on Facebook, Instagram, and then finally found Twitter, and that's kind of where, you know, the momentum game where I became to get a following stuff like that, and then you know, one four a m.

You know, morning on a Tuesday.

I believe it was.

Speaker 2

I applied for.

Speaker 4

NFL researcher jobs similar to Florio and thinking, you know, the job will be remote, and then boom, it's in LA and then I'm here.

Speaker 2

Now I know you guys both thought it like I get to stay on the East Coast to do this like NFL job, and then they're like, no, man, you got to come to Los Angeles.

Speaker 3

I walked by daily the NFL office in New York.

I was like, oh, I instead of getting off one train station, I'll take the train two more stops and then I work there.

And it was like the third interview I found out it was in La.

Speaker 2

Oh that's funny.

My story real quick.

I worked in radio and sports radio in various forms for a number of years.

UH found out that from a former coworker that the NFL was hiring.

They were looking for people seasonally.

I went online.

I literally went like NFL dot com slash jobs, applied for like five or six things, most of which I wasn't qualified for, and eventually the one they called me back for was writing about fantasy.

I'd never imagined it as a career at that point in my life.

I only played fantasy mostly just to be social and either keep in touch with old friends or make new friends.

I'd never really thought about playing it on a competitive level or anything like that.

But it beat what I was doing, which is basically sitting on my couch freelance writing and watching old episodes of Law and Order SVU.

So you know, I I the interview I got hired.

I started here is basically a copy editor, you know, reading other people's copy and editing it and occasionally doing some blog posts, doing the occasional cameo on a pod, and then fortunately been able to sort of work my way up the ranks.

And August will be thirteen years.

Could I be here longest long as I've ever been at one job in my entire life?

So nice, that's the long and short of it.

This will actually be for me as well.

Speaker 3

I just realized, because yeah, I'll be seven years in August.

Wow, congratulate, longest I've ever been at one place.

Yeah, long as I've been at one job.

So that's a short version.

Speaker 2

Maggie, I'm sure if you know we ever met in person, and you wanted to sit down, and you know, if you were willing to buy us a beer, I'm sure we could tell you more in depth about exactly what exactly went on there with all that.

There other things that are going on right now.

I know that you tweeted this, lookwon Ram's about to have two wide receivers finished inside the top fifteen.

Again.

You're putting out here, Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua workout videos.

Speaker 1

Let's go.

Speaker 2

You're like, it's hype, It's workout hype video season.

Like, let's be honest.

This is you getting fired up about the rams.

This is even about fantasy right now, right, this is you putting out some RAMS propaganda.

Yeah about it right, cats out of the bag.

But I do believe it.

I am a true believer of it.

Man.

Speaker 4

They could have two wide receivers finished in the top fifteen again, because eighteen and nineteen it was back to back seasons where one of them were Robert Woods, and you had Brandon Cooks there that finished top fifteen.

The following year he had Cooper Cup and Robert Woods.

So I think it can happen.

Speaker 2

With Cooper Cup and pookin Nakoul.

It definitely can.

Yeah, I don't think that's a ridiculous statement, but let's go.

Speaker 3

My thing is if it's if that's gonna happen, I'm on Cooper Cups side all day long.

Because pookin Nakool you're taking it in the first round as the wide receiver six.

And I loved pookin Nakoola last year.

I think he's a very good wide receiver.

It's also I think possible that his rookie year might be his.

Speaker 2

Best year in the NFL.

Speaker 3

Wow will be Whereas I think Cooper Cup like we're getting.

I took him in an underdog draft yesterday, pick forty one as my wide receiver three.

Speaker 2

That's love.

Speaker 3

I'll take a three round discount and get what I still believe when healthy is a top five wide receiver walking planet.

Speaker 2

I agree, Yeah, I mean I think that's it.

Like the again, I think the general consensus is unless there's a guy that you love, love love, if there are guys that you feel like can finish fairly close, I tend to the lean toward the guy I can get at a bigger value, and right now that is Cooper Cup Who's you know, underdog wide receiver twenty five.

You said you gotta pick forty one.

The average is like thirty eight basically, so you were pretty much right on where a lot of people are taking him at this point in drafts.

I mean, I think with both these guys healthy, I think there's absolutely a chance they both finish as top fifteen wide receivers.

You know, so you're looking at low win wide receiver, one high end wide receiver to possibilities for both of them.

You know, the Rams are gonna be.

They're gonna be pretty good this year.

Yes, yeah, extremely good.

They're gonna be this year.

They're gonna be.

Speaker 3

They're gonna cause some problems pending Matt Stafford's health.

Speaker 2

That's that's the biggest.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, that's the big It all falls apart.

And you know, if he's injured, man like from the running game, the guys on the perimeter, it just falls apart for fantasy as well.

So hopefully Stafford, please, I'm begging you stay healthy.

Speaker 2

Uh yeah, I mean for for the Rams, for the sake of the Rams.

Uh.

That's gonna be the good.

Although when you guys go and draft Michael Pennix, then you'll have somebody else back there to to bacuum up.

Speaker 4

I keep hearing this it's either a bo Nicks or Penix, and I'm okay with both, to be honest, because I'm just staying focused on this season with Matthew Stafford's health, and we go get another ring baby.

Speaker 3

They're trying to draft someone around the same man ages Matt Stafford.

Speaker 2

I mean, yeah, why why does Let's need loving old quarterbacks?

I cannot answer that question.

I don't know.

I do not know to answer C.

K.

Jackson's question, Yes, we do read the chat.

We answered Maggie's question.

We took a comment from Grayson Red and yeah, we would love to see you start a German NFL fantasy podcast.

I don't know this for a fact.

I would be willing to bet there probably is one out there somewhere.

You know, we definitely know of Spanish language fantasy podcasts.

We know there are plenty in the UK.

I would be willing to bet that someone somewhere has started a German language fantasy pod.

Speaker 3

But in Germany listen to our podcast, which still is mind blowing to me.

Speaker 2

Right, But you know, here's the thing, people in other countries actually know multiple languages.

It's just US Americans that that struggle against it.

Yeah, we really struggle against man.

I haven't done my duo lingo for the day, but I'll make sure I get my fifteen minutes of duo lingo in, so I can, you know, brush up on my Spanish, get a little stronger, and then one day, one day, I'll try to have a you know, at least basic level conversation with our problem.

Risio gutierres about Hey, Star Wars, fantasy football.

I don't know something like that at this point.

Do other weird things going on?

Patrick Mahomes.

Normally we're talking about people blocking for Patrick Mahomes.

In this instance, it's Patrick Mahomes blocking for somebody else, namely his three year old daughter, keeping her from watching the solar eclipse and potentially hurting her eyes.

It's a little cute video.

He got some quick feet there, he does, I hope.

So, I mean, look at somebody who watched him, you know, shred my team in the fourth quarter and oversigned to a Super Bowl.

Yes, he has quick feet to get out of trouble or I guess other people from getting into trouble.

That's what it is experience.

Speaker 3

Last season, she was she was walking straight looking at the sun, like, oh yeah.

Speaker 2

Full send all of you guys like experience the eclipse.

Earlier this week, I was working path to the draft, so I went outside.

Speaker 3

I was I was at home.

I went in the yard and I was like, let's see it, and it got a little bit dimmer, but uh, that nothing compared to like ten I mean, oh no.

I was posted a video their entire buffalo went like nighttime and all you saw was like their stadium.

Speaker 2

Likes, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 4

That's kind of scary though, right, Like it just bright as day and then all of a sudden night, like what happens.

Speaker 2

I have a friend who lives kind of in the Dallas area and they he was in the path too, and and he sent some pictures that he's, yeah, we can kind of see it.

He said, the pictures don't do it justice.

He's like, it's absolutely amazing to watch it in person.

I did the whole like fifth grade science thing where I took a calender and and you know, held it over a piece of paper so you could kind of see the shadow, Like if you looked at the right spot, you can kind of see the shadow there.

So like, yeah, shout out to mister wizard.

Yay science, Like I felt like Jesse Pikman, Yes science.

So that was my experience with the with the eclipse this week.

Question from crowned me twice in the in the chat here outside of c D and ferguson, anybody else from Dallas, you guys would feel comfortable using a draft pick on that's a Dak for sure.

I don't take Dak.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'm so confident Dak underrated.

Speaker 2

I feel like, yeah, definitely is.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I feel like the good and bad of Dak is embodied in Cowboy fans themselves, right, because like Cowboy fans never seem perfectly satisfied with Dak, But the moment anybody that's not a Cowboys fan says anything critical about Dak, then Cowboys fans rise up as one to attack.

Vacuums attack absolutely every time.

Speaker 3

Even from a look Cowboys fans are crazy and they can they can have their opinions on Dak and everything.

But like from a fantasy standpoint, he was the QB three last year, fourth in points per game, and like looking at his his years where he stays healthy the last few years, like he's been the QB three, QB seven, QB two, and we never talk about Dak as one of the top fantasy options.

Speaker 4

That is true because I honestly like looking at some of the quarterbacks in the top five, like, I'll probably take Dak before I take Patrick Mahomes this season, and I'm pretty confident about taking that, you know, because I think Dak right now underdog's like QB six or QB seven right there, and I'd rather just go ahead and wait a round or two and get Dak Prescotte instead of Patrick Mahomes sitting there at the QB five.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

I mean, look here, Dok is a great fantasy quarterback, and I think he's a pretty good real life quarterback too.

You know, I don't know if he makes it into the the tier of the elites, but he's a very good quarterback.

And I think part of the reason we don't talk about him is because he isn't sort of that tier where he's not you know, you're not reaching for Dak, right He's not being drafted at the Allens and Hertzes and you know, Lamar Jackson's and you know whatever.

But he's also not one of those guys like if you were if you were a weight on a quarterback person and you know, he's not going with the Jared Goff's or the Brock Parties or anybody like that.

So he sort of comes in that middle tier guys who are pretty good that you feel like you can rock with more often than not, but you're not you know, you're not fighting, You're not elbowing people to get to Dak Prescott when it comes to, you know, to the draft board or anything like that.

Speaker 3

His last five years on a per game basis, he's been QB three.

One that was the shortened season where he only played like a month eight fifteen and four.

Yesterday we were talking about QB tiers and we say, we all agreed the first one and whatever order you want, Alan hurts Lamar Mahomes, maybe not LQ with Mahomes, but I think that'll be the first four off the board come draft time after that.

Like at least I know, I said Richardson Stroud Berrow would be a group for me.

Speaker 2

I think Dak belongs in that tier as well.

Yeah, I think that's fair.

I absolutely think that's fair.

By the way, to also finish up the question from a Crown meets wise, I would also take a draft pick, use a draft pick on whoever the Cowboys draft as their running back, right, agree, Jonathan Brooks?

Okay, maybe not Jonathan Brooks, right, And it's not about him as a person or an athlete, just he's a guy coming off in the right, coming off an ACL tear, and who knows exactly when he's going to be ready to go.

So uh, maybe not Jonathan Brooks.

But if the draft, you know, I don't know another running back, then I would probably be in on that because that that guy is probably gonna get the first rack in the star being the start.

I just want to see duce Vaughn get an opportunity.

I know he came the lead guy, right, he could be a special teams special teams speaking, which if you haven't caught it, If you have not caught the podcast, go check it out because we talk on it.

Lawan did some research about defense and special teams on the fantasy side and what could be the future for this year based on the new kickoff rules.

So it's an interesting it's interesting conversation.

At the end of this most recent podcast, you can go check that out.

Braden Hill wants to know who will have the biggest impact among rookies for fantasy this season.

Speaker 4

It's hard.

It depends on landing spots.

I think it's one of the receivers, one of the big three.

Speaker 2

If I had to pick a position, it'll probably be wide receiver.

It's so it's, you know, whoever gets the best landing spot between Marvin Harrison Junior, Molikue Neighbors, and Romo Donze.

Speaker 3

I don't know if it's a hot take at this point.

My hot take is that like one A, one B.

But I would if I had if I'm the Cardinals and I'm sitting there and I need a wide receiver, I think Malik Neighbors is the best in this last but it feels like Marvin Harrison Junior is gonna end up there and that landing spot is going to be better than any realistic one for the for for Neighbors at least, I would.

Speaker 2

Say, yeah, I agree, Yeah, so, but I think that's what I think it's.

It's a wide receiver, is the answer, the short answer to your question, and we'll kind of figure out, you know, which one it is.

Ba's it's not sort of what happens, uh with the draft.

Last couple of minutes before we get out of here, Grayson red says, whether fair or unfair, Dak has not won in the playoffs much that affects our perception of him.

Yeah, maybe, yeah, I think because we're so rings obsessed that yeah, probably doesn't.

Right, didn't help.

Speaker 3

My question to Cowboys fans is the grass is always greener, right, what are you going to realistically do that that is better than Dak?

Speaker 2

That's the problem because, like, especially because he's better than average, you know, like it's it's not like those years where the Bengals were kind of stuck with Andy d like he was he was just good enough to keep you competitive or whatever.

Like that is better than Andy Dalton was.

You know, He's just not any lead level quarterback and there's no shame in that.

But you know, I think that might have something to do with it.

Speaker 3

It reminds me like with Justin Herbert too.

People are always like, well, he's overrated.

He's not really the sixth best quarterback, he's the eighth.

And it's like who cares, Like he's.

Speaker 2

Not the problem.

You're splitting hairs now.

Speaker 3

Yeah, like you're not gonna get better than him there, Just accept it.

Speaker 2

Last one real quick from Jonathan B.

Will Jsen have a major breakout second season?

I'm gonna say no, not a major breakout.

I think he's good.

He's just he's just stuck on a team with two really good veteran receivers.

You know, in a quarterback who's who's good enough but not great, not not great enough to support three guys.

I think on a on a heavy level, No.

Speaker 4

I think he's on his Drake London run right now where we know he's good, but we just have to wait for that breakout when some things change around him.

Speaker 2

Do you think the change in O C might help?

Speaker 3

Because Waldron was kind of like, I have a system it's based around these two wide receivers.

Now they brought in the dude from Washington who ran a pretty good three wide receiver set from what I've seen.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean, I think it helps a little bit.

But I also think that, you know, we've seen the best of Geno Smith too.

Yeah, that's you know, that's the thing.

You know, I think we've seen the best of Geno Smith, and I'm not sure that he can support all three guys on a very high level.

I think, you know, I don't know that there are a lot of quarterbacks out there that can support three wide receivers.

So yeah, I still think Jansen's a good player.

This isn't like me saying he's bad, just I just don't know that the circumstances allow for him having a second year right now.

So anyway, I think it's a good spot for us to pause.

Bus I have a dentist appointment.

I have to go get my teeth all cleaned up.

We expect you're in the chair.

Actually yeah, yeah, no, I actually I moved it just so I could be here with you guys.

Speaker 4

At that's how much I thanks.

Speaker 2

Anyway, go check out the podcast.

The link is in the chats.

You can go check it out, or you can just you know, go to iTunes, Spotify, wherever you find podcasts, and go go check out the latest edition of it.

We'll be back with you next week for another edition of the podcast.

We're back with you next Thursday for another edition of the cheat sheets.

So we are always grateful for all of you who jump in the chat.

Shout out to Kyrie Douglas who's leaving us Batman.

We appreciate you all the work that you put in.

Hopefully this is not the last time we talked to you.

We are as as is custom here around our network, we send people out into the pasture for five months out of the year and then maybe we call them back.

So hopefully we would love to have you back.

It's up to us Kyrie comes back.

But in the meantime, we appreciate all the work you put in on this show, on the podcast, on everything you've done for us over the last several months.

So enjoy the off season, go get some sun, go enjoy the beach, enjoy the beach, and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon.

For the rest of you, I promise that we will talk to you again next week.

So thanks for hanging out with us here on the Fantasyet cheat sheet.

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