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Yeah, there's the comments.

It's the last Friday, and I know you don't pay attention to the paranormal part.

The last Friday.

We put up an episode on on the channel with the actor Christopher Barry, the character actor, and he had a he had a pretty cool video of what may or may not be a cryptid animal.

Okay, he didn't say it was encryptied.

He just put it up there.

It was very mysterious.

Conclusions draw You draw your own conclusions.

But the thing is is it is so funny going through the comments, because one comment will say that is the most the best video I've ever seen of a dog man of a cryptid.

You can see this, you can see that.

Then the next person will say, that's video is terrible.

I can't what did you guys do that on you know, a flip phone, you know, And it's like, aren't you guys watching the same thing.

So, but there's lots of people though that watch the YouTube stuff on Great Big you know, it's like television forum, you know, And so they watched the show on their television.

And some people are like, we're watching on seventy inch screens and we can see, you know, the outline of the head of the creature or whatever it is over there.

But then there's people that don't listen.

They don't listen to the details, which you know, you and I both know that's what's wrong with what's wrong.

With well, really that's the world's a better place because of people like that.

But what nobody is listening to.

Whatever it was was speeding behind a six foot tall stone wall.

Okay, so it limited what it could have been.

And you know, people will going, oh, that's a dog or that's a cat, or that's a raccoon or something, and you're just like, do you not do you guys?

Why bother?

You know?

You know?

So, I don't know.

It's just it's just one of those frustrating, frustrating things.

But we appreciate all the new fans.

And if you're if you've listened this fart and you are mad that we're not talking about stuff, just there'll be a new episode Friday.

But if we want to stick around have some laughs with us, well maybe maybe there'll be tears of sorrow.

I don't know, tears of joy, tears of sorrow.

Who knows, who knows what we're going to come up with.

But I wanted, I wanted.

I didn't want to tell you, so I did watch three really good music documentaries that I think you'll you'd enjoy.

They're all on HBO Max and I don't remember if I did I start talking about the Billy Joel one a couple an episode or two ago or not.

I think so yeah, I think.

So Okay, So we finally finished.

It was just like it was a five hours two episodes, two and a half hours or whatever.

It's really good.

But Billy Joel really got screwed, really got screwed more than once in his career by people handling his money.

And like what what did they say?

What happened?

Well?

The worst, the worst was is so he was married and it's so he got married in his first why well, now let's see, let me put this way.

He signed his first rec contract, went out to California and recorded his first album and not knowing any better, I can't remember what the hit song was on that on that album, like New York State of Mind maybe or something was the was the hit song?

And basically that contract he had signed away all his publishing, all his song I mean signed.

What would they give him for it?

Why would he do that and give him money or something?

Well, it was the first I think he had been on a on a record label back in New York.

But nobody really knew what to do with him, and it didn't you know, he wasn't selling records or whatever.

So this guy said, hey, look I want to produce you.

Here's the contract.

Well, the contract basically took everything and at the end of the day this album that ended up selling three million copies with New York State I think it was a New York State of Mind.

His wife, who then became his manager, said they received seven, seven and eighty four dollars total for that.

So he had nothing.

I mean, that's that's nothing, even in nineteen so I.

Assume that's the last album he made for him.

It was then he so then he went on quote unquote strike because because he just he was like, look, I'm not making another record for you and started playing in the piano bar.

That is where then he got the idea for Piano Man.

And Clive Davis came around and had heard him play something on an album or on a radio seation in Philadelphia, got ahold of him.

They bought this other guy out, and you know, he started his career over.

And it was about the third album with Clive Davis where he finally hit and hit big.

Well, he was a terrible drinker and his what his first wife, who was as manager, finally was like, look, I am I can't do it anymore.

And she goes and I don't.

I don't want to manage it.

I don't you know whatever.

Well he goes, that's okay, I'm going to have your brother manage me.

And she's like, I don't think that's a very good good idea.

And he had been involved in the whole process the whole time.

Fast forward that he gets you know, gets married to Christy Brinkley.

He is having his most successful run of touring and stuff, and they come to find out that brother had basically crapped away about twenty or thirty million of his dollars and he had nothing.

This is what I don't understand.

This goes back to DAC type stuff.

Yeah, these guys aren't checking their bank statements, and you know, you know what I mean, I mean, you know what I mean.

Well, I think they I think what happens is is that they are they are the commodity, and they know that they they keep the keep these guys so busy, okay, and they keep him on the road and you don't know what dad is.

Yeah, but why don't you just you get on the bus one days, I need to see the bank account.

Oh I'm gonna call Chase Manhattan and cut you off, mister manager, go screw yourself.

Well that's what he ended up having to do because he owed similar to Dac, he owed about five million dollars to the irs and didn't have the money to pay it.

And he's like, what do you mean.

So he didn't want to believe that this guy, his former brother in law, was screwing him over.

Oh my gosh, family will screw you fast.

For the Mexican it's jeem Andy Christmas.

Anyway, So they go in there and they hire a forensic account, and they go in there and find it.

He just so that's screwing number two, hiring the forensic account.

Yeah.

So he goes back on the road and it basically ruined his marriage and Christy Brinkley because he had to work NonStop for like two years.

And when they had got together, he said, look, I'm not and they had a kid and he's like, look, I'm not gonna I'm want to be here for the kids stuff.

And it was amazing when Christy Brinkley was still tore up about it.

She was still she was still in love with that dude.

It was pretty obvious.

That's because her fortunes have changed too.

She's probably one another slides to that, another punch of that meal ticket.

He is on his fourth mayor.

He got married again, I think in twenty fifteen, and.

People are just lucky like that.

He has two kids.

So he's seventy six years old and he has two kids under like eight years old.

I'm just like that, You're never You're even if you live ten years, you're still not going to see him really grow up.

You know.

That's just I don't know, but he looks.

I think he's sick right now too.

He's got some stuff.

Going me too.

Yeah.

So but if anybody you know, people from our generation who remember, like the all the good music, all the good music he had, it was very interesting.

It's just you know, you and I know so many stories about these famous people that just have nothing.

Let well, so.

Exactly, we have nothing left.

Well I didn't have that much to begin with, but we got nothing left.

But the other the other doc that I that I watched that I've thoroughly enjoyed was with the one about yacht rock now you know what, Yeah, you know what yacht rock is?

Right, like they do.

I listened to while ago I turn you know, they got to Michael McDonald or something.

I'll listen to it.

But some of that stuff there was a reason why nobody remembers it.

Well.

The the funny thing is, so they started doing this, they did in this documentary they they discovered, so the term yacht rock was coined.

Like in two thousand and five, there was a web series that these comedians did where they dressed up like Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins, Haul of Oates, all those guys, and it was really like they were They weren't so much as making fun of them as mate is paying homage to them.

Okay, and the guy that made the documentaries like man, I just remember it was so so funny or whatever, And that then created the momentum for yacht rock because then what happened was is because they said never there was really only one video and it was the last video that Michael McDonald did from remember the movie Running Scared with Gregory Hines.

So they consider that what the heck was that song, the Running Scared theme Shine Sweet Freedom.

They consider that, like the last yacht rock song that hit.

And they said in the video then Billy Crystals were hearing the Hawaiian shirt and they're in this like bar so kind of that kind of is the only time where the theme of yacht rock kind of fit in.

So these comedians coined this term.

It sticks and there's this resurgence in you know, Kenny log because Kenny Logins went on to have a great career and doing other stuff, you know, doing other types of music, and Michael McDonald and all that, and it was it was really kind of cool to see how tied into each other they all were as session musicians and stuff.

And they said, and so Toto is considered yacht rock, would you consider Toto yahrak, I guess well, they said what they said, They said that that this is the tie in the Michael Jackson is that in Michael Jackson's Thriller album, Toto, the Toto guys, who were great session musicians, then got all hired even as they were Toto one of the biggest bands in the world to play session the session music on Michael Jackson on Thriller.

And I was like, that's I mean, that's kind of amazing.

But the funniest part was the stuff about Steely Dan.

And I never really understood Steely Dan, but one, you know, but once they started talking about you know, they said those guys were such great songwriters and studio musicians that they just people kept saying, look, you guys write really weird, but it's good stuff.

You should do it on yourself or do it yourself.

And so they did, and then they just when they quit touring in like seventy four, they just there wasn't really a band.

It was just two guys.

It was the I think the Becker guy and then Donald Fagan or the Steely Dan guy.

So they talked about him, but everybody else was in the documentary interviewing him, talking to him.

And so it gets to the end of the documentary and the director says, so, if you wonder why Becker or Fagan was we're not featured in the documentary.

Well here's why.

So he plays his phone call of him calling up Donald Fagan and it's like, yeah, I'm the guy that's making the documentary on yacht Rock and Donald fake It's like yeah.

He goes, well, I just want to kind of ask you some questions about what you feel your place is in in yacht rock, in the genre, and and you know, White's lasted so long, lasted so long, and Donald Fagan goes, well, how about you gofters so fix?

Why because he doesn't want to be a star with rock, guess not?

But you know he's in the he's in the rock and roll hall.

They're in the rock and roll Hall of Fame.

Steely Dan is they sold.

I looked up.

They sold forty million albums and they only had like three top ten hits.

But I mean, you can't hardly turn on a seventies radio station and not hear a Steely Dan song every you know what I'm saying.

So then I then I watched the Beg's one that.

Was I love oh man.

It was so it was so good to see how they where they came from, and how how good they were writing songs and stuff.

But it was kind of it was kind of sad because and I think, isn't Barry Gibb.

Isn't he dead now too?

I think there's only one left.

Okay, so it's it's Barry then, But.

Is he gone too?

I don't know, I don't, I don't know.

But he was still alive.

He was.

He was still alive in the documentary and and he's just like, man, he goes, I'm the last one left.

You know, they're all gone.

Yeah, I've seen that.

Yep, they're all gone.

And I mean it was amazing.

The the demo tape they turned in when they when the guy, so, the guy that produced them got bought bought the rights to Saturday Night Fever to that article, right, and uh he said they picked out their favorite disco songs and then they said, well we got to get a couple from the Begis and they sent a tape that had five of the best songs on it.

And it was like more than a woman, you know, disc Disco Fever Saturday, you know, stand alive all that and they go, this was it was just amazing.

It was like getting the winning lottery ticket in the mail.

They said.

So, I don't know, man, I just thread that story, you know, the paraballs of the six hundred million, and the story linked with a thing that said the largest one in recent history is one point three mil billion, remember, like in twenty twenty four.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we probably.

Think you dude, got to check for four hundred and twenty two million dollars.

That's where asked me if I'd rather have four or five number one songs this year or four hundred and twenty two million.

The songs ain't worth what they used to be, but the lottery take us sure are.

But I will bet you to buy the rights to those five songs, it costs you good.

I wonder who old them.

I'm assuming Barry Gibb probably still owns the publishing.

I would assume.

I mean, this song's gonna be worth forty fifty million just those five songs from Saturday Night Fever probably at least.

I mean, they're they're they just they're non styck.

I'll bet you each one of those songs still makes one the two million dollars a year just from airplay, airplane stuff, you know.

So so yeah, so all our all our listeners go check out those docks.

If you're from our generation, love that music, even if you're not from the rock one was great, though, it was really great.

I didn't understand.

I did not realize that.

And I don't even know this dude.

He's but he's a current guy, Thundercat.

I've heard of him, but he did a song with Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins is actually really really good.

It's actually really good.

I don't know who anybody's my wife and daughter who went to about three concerts in the last month.

And now I do know John Party on Saturday United State Fair.

I know who he was just because I seen him in Jackson Lomi last year with.

Him, so they went and saw him.

Okay, who else?

I don't know?

Meghan Maroney, Oh yeah, Megan Maroney's good.

Never heard of her, and I forgot who's the third one was somebody?

So when you said Thundercat, you just it didn't matter many just you might as well just say, you know whatever cat and the hat because.

I don't know who these people are.

A guy, A guy I write, I write with got a Christmas song cut by John Party last year on his Christmas album.

It's kind of cool.

Yeah, yeah, it's kind of a that's kind of a cool.

Cool thing.

We got to give a shout out is this week.

High school football start in Missouri.

This week they've been doing practice.

My son just walked out of here while go going to practice.

But I mean game nine.

First game the next week.

Okay, so here in Ohio.

First games this week, which would be the twenty second, so it's a week early.

We have a we have a young listener, a high school senior, Lawson Bedford, Looston Bedford linebacker for the North Kingston Skippers.

I'm not sure about the team name, the Skippers, but they're in Rhode Island.

Lawson's a fan of the podcast.

He reached out to me.

He was talking about some music and stuff.

It's good to have young listeners.

But I'm telling you, I kind of looked.

I kind of checked out the North Kingston Skippers.

They're pretty legit.

They've won a couple of state titles here in the last they're kind of like where your boy.

Goes and what and what's called the Kingston, Rhode Island.

North Kingston Skippers.

So they're in North Kingston right now.

Now what I couldn't figure out was, and this is probably only going to be interesting to the Rhode Island people, but when I was reading about their season last year, they missed.

So there's a state playoffs and a regular playoffs, and so it must only take the top the top teams, like say the top four teams in a region must go to the state playoffs.

But then there's a regular playoff.

I can't imagine them like this weekend, Like next week for our opener, I'm gonna have to drive about ninety miles to go to it.

Ninety mile?

Is that a It's not a league game, right, it's an out of out a league game.

Well, I mean it's it's on our schedule a lot.

I don't know.

You mean, are they in our conference?

No, they're out of conference, So I don't know, the problem is in our conference, we don't have enough schools serve the same size as.

All So how many league games then do you got to?

You gotta play.

Like when I was going through school, we had ten games in our conference, so you played nine conference games, and then the first game of the season was always non conference and we would always play Besirus the city team, and then once they started messing around, then you had to pick up two three non conference games because the conference would go down to seven, eight teams or whatever.

So and I know there's there's schools around here that can't get anybody to play them, and they'll have to drive, like you're saying, like an hour and a half.

I mean, it's silly drive an hour and a half, two hours to play football.

That's nothing.

I will say, some of them will get the end of season, we'll be driving it, you know, two hours.

But that's for the playoffs, right, yeah.

Well usually, yes, the playoffs will be a big drive.

Usually if we make the playoffs.

I mean, I hate to be presumptuous.

Well, you know, I I wish and loss and luck, good luck on the season and hopefully they hopefully they do well, and he'll keep us updated.

And I mean, like I said, I think North Kingston looks it looks pretty tough.

So like I said to the Skippers, I'm not sure.

I'm from Rote.

I lived in Rhode Island for about a year, or lived in Massachusetts for a year and worked in Rhode Island, and I just the Skippers doesn't sound tough enough for a bunch of Rhode Island kids.

But if you're the skipper, you don't have to be tough as long as the sailors are talking as well as the people underneath you.

Right, this is an episode of Gillicks.

If you go down to the army, the general is usually not a bad ass, but he's got a few thousand of them underneath me.

So okay, all right, Well, I'll buy that.

I'll buy it.

So tomorrow is my day off.

I'm going to pick up a I made a purchase.

I don't know if you will approve or not.

But somebody that I know had a dumb condone its drive through sign and they moved, and they asked me because I know I love duncindonents if I wanted to, if I wanted to buy it off of them.

So my wife and I on Friday try to stop there.

I couldn't even get the sign in my suburban.

It's that big.

Couldn't put it on the roof.

I wasn't gonna put it on the road because it's just the one side plastic hard plastic to get it then, So I'm going down with with our truck tomorrow and my buddy, my buddy, Jamie Thompson, who's the old bread man, he's gonna he lives down there around the corner.

So making sure you got some adult supervision because you probably don't ship about securing a load.

I don't.

I don't, but but I can do enough.

I can do I can do enough.

I don't know.

I was just reading about the Saint Louis mail facility.

He can't do anything.

So, oh my god, I've been on national news something about the Saint Louis mail facility.

Yeah, something about the mail sorting facility.

They lose it, they can't keep it.

They ain't got it, so they must teach you guys in Indiana or Ohio better than Saint Louis.

No, the Cleveland Cleveland Center.

Here probably dodgs and bullets and stuff, you know.

In Saint Louis or Cleveland both.

Uh No, I just don't think people want to work anymore.

It's not an easy job.

I mean at all.

I don't know.

I don't know.

You know what's terrible is the guy, the guy who just retired, who retired like a year ago, whose route I have now.

He just sent me today the listing of the condo he bought down in North Carolina, in Sunset Beach.

Yeah, and I'm just like.

Man, you didn't like it.

You don't like Sunset Beach.

I thought you liked it down there.

No, I said, I said, congratulations, you know you offered, you know, we could go downstanding time.

It's a really nice looking condo.

And I guess Sunset Beach is a really nice place now for retirees.

But just like, man, I'm so close.

I'm so close.

I hope nothing happens.

You know.

I don't want to be a retire re hire like you.

I just went to right, you know, if I was buying a com that would be on my.

Ork or something.

But is my Orca Greece?

No, it's in Spain, Spain.

Yeah, you know, I remember when you guys went to Spain, you really really yeah, whenever when you guys going.

On spring break?

For sure, not sooner.

I was gonna go a couple of months about.

I was gonna go in July.

But in the June versus July, we couldn't trust our teenager at home all and we didn't think.

So yeah, now is your is your older boy close to there?

Yeah he's well, yes, we're gonna go visit him in Cadiz.

Right, Well that'd be that'll be fun.

I might stay and know how my lottery tickets pan out?

So what when do they When do they draw the power Ball?

Wednesdays and the Mega Millions is Mondays and Fridays.

I think Power Bowls Saturdays and Wednesday.

Saturday and Wednesday.

Okay, so you're saying I got to it.

I can't I'm not up on it.

I can't.

I can't believe i'd get lucky enough to win.

So I can't win.

If you don't play, you can't look out lucky.

You've been in love, you're on your third wife or third I am.

Not on my third wife.

Why I have not on my I'm not a third wife.

Some people are just lucky like that.

Speaking of wife, this chair, So my wife, you you you made fun of my tying down a load.

My wife bought this, bought a chair, and I put it together yesterday and as of right now, I have not fallen an office chair.

The chairs not collapsed under my weight.

So I mean, I don't want to speak too soon and fall out of you here.

But yeah, but I'm just not good at that stuff.

That's the thing.

My gravity always worked.

But you're I mean, you're so much better at all the mechanical stuff.

I just it just does it just scares me.

Well, yeah, scart much to work on my pool?

We are you gonna work on your pool?

Well, I gotta check my salt.

My salt light's blinking out there.

So I got some things to do.

So you gotta add you gotta add salt to.

That, yeah, usually added sometimes I was just reading yesterday.

I've hat it for four years now.

I never cleaned it.

There's a you gotta clean up the sell the salt and sale somehow.

So I might have to do that.

I don't know.

She's does the salt corode?

It's all plastic.

Oh, it's all plastic.

There's no there's no steel or anything.

That some brass and some aluminum and now there's not much to corode.

Man, just.

Hm?

So, so is everybody back to school then?

In Missouri.

By tomorrow?

By next week?

Sure?

Tell kids started last week.

Most of the public schools around here start this week.

So the Catholic kids start different.

Well, well, they needed a little extra I guess.

Or they just have their paying their penance, right.

The the the glory is in the suffering, right.

So it's not not my words, is their words.

So the the Cathol kids probably been worse all summer long?

Is that what you're saying.

No, I'm just saying maybe they they have a higher calling.

Ye know.

Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.

Well, well, yeah they're talking about tonight.

I don't even remember.

I don't know I did.

We were going to talk about that, But I did have one.

I did have one story.

I wanted to to one story to share here?

How about this headline A Michigan auto worker's wallet is found under a hood in Minnesota.

One hundred and fifty one thousand miles later, a retired Michigan autoworker looked at a Facebook message after midnight from a stranger.

Did you lose your wallet years ago?

If so, it was in the engine bay of a car.

So the guy who's walleted it was Richard Goldford couldn't believe what he was reading.

So his trifle wallet was stuffed with fifteen dollars, a driver's license, a work ide, gift cards from I think it was Cabella's for two hundred and seventy five dollars, and lottery tickets.

It could have been your wallet.

It could have been a lot mine wallet, mine or mind.

But he got it back after turned out.

Yeah, so this guy took it was a dot.

What was an edge Ford edge.

Surprised the last one thousand miles.

But he was working it was Yeah.

The wallet was discovered in June by mechanics.

It was sandwich between the transmission and the air filter box of a twenty fifteen Ford edge, So it must have must have fallen out.

So what was I say?

So the filter box would snapp into place after the repair.

So I messed around a little bit and then pulled it back and there was the wall sitting on the little edge where I needed to snap it down.

I pulled the wallet out and that was it.

So he turned back the counter to twenty fourteen, around Christmas, and the guy was working on the same car at the Ford factory in Wayne, Michigan.

It was in a long line of new vehicles assembled elsewhere that needed extra electrical work before being shipped out.

He realized that his wallet had fallen out of his shirt pocket and was certain he had lost it in a car, but figured it was on the floor of a Ford Flex, not an edge.

They searched thirty to forty cars, and that was it.

They you know, because of course they weren't looking in the right place.

And so he retained his arm.

He's retired.

But here, what did I read that Cabella's.

It is going to replace that two hundred and fifty dollars worth of Cabella's.

There was two hundred and fifty dollars with the Cabellas and twenty five dollars out Back, So Cabella's is going to replace his his gift cards so he can keep his wallet as is.

So they're going, which I can't believe it'd still be good, but he said, they don't know if Outback is going to do the same thing.

So there you go.

Man.

Yeah, I just like when I worked up at Detroit, those guys, I don't know if I ever said it, told the story about the one guy said don't ever buy a car on a Friday.

And I'm like, I always heard that, Yeah.

That's what he said.

So the guy told me, he goes, don't ever buy it.

No, he said, don't buy it on a Friday, and I go wide.

He goes, because every Friday we pick out one car.

And he said they'd either drop in a nut or a bolt in the back quarter panel inside of it, so you'd have you'd hear this rattling and you'd never be able to find out what it was.

And I'm like, are you kidding me?

And he goes, Nope, he goes.

We do that every Friday, pick out one car, and he goes.

He goes.

Sometimes, h sometimes a guy would dropping a wrench and really really shake it up, because but you literally have to take that car apart to find out.

What was making that noise.

Well, that's disheartening, that's in some ways.

So there you go.

Don't overbuy car.

Don't everybody car.

Don't everybody a new one.

I've never owned new car my life.

So.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I mean I don't.

I've owned one and I bought it and so my wife could drive it at the time.

You learned that lesson, didn't you.

Yeah, where were you to tell me not to do?

You wouldn't listen to him anyway.

But that's okay.

Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode of the From the Shadows podcast.

Until next time, never shy away from the darkness or what may be lurking in the shadows.

We are out

God, windows were tidy in our shadows.