On this episode of newts World, the George Soros Empire is now the Alex Soros Empire and the son is even more radical than the father.

In June twenty twenty three, it was finally made official Alex Soros would be taking over the empire started by his father, who has contributed thirty two billion dollars of his own liney to the cause of left wing ideas.

As the news broke, one question echoed around the world, what will the future of Soros's influence look like?

In his new book, The Air Inside the Not So Secret Network of Alex Soros, Matt Palombo investigates the transformation underway.

This is not the end of Soros backed radicalism, It's just the beginning.

I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, Matt Palombo.

He's the content manager of bonginoreport dot com and the best selling author of nine books.

Matt, welcome and thank you for joining me again on new Chorld.

It's always good to be auto with you.

I think the George Sorows book was the last we discussed together, and a lot has obviously happened since then.

I wrote a front cover story for The New York post, and it was actually unintentional.

They asked me to write a story and didn't tell me they were going to make it the front cover story.

So that was an interesting surprise to way up to one day in twenty twenty three.

But that helped kind of give the book new life and helped spread it quite a bit.

And one of the most surreal things that came from it was I got invited on Harris Faulkner's show and she had me talk about the exact same topic they wouldn't let you talk about.

So there is some bizarre shift in I don't know, the normalization of going after George Soros or something, and I would like to think I maybe contributed slightly to that.

I don't know if I can really claim credit, but I think the Boogeyman's status or people being afraid to even be accused of being anti Semitic or something for going after him has faded a little bit.

So now we're all eyes are on the sun.

And he is definitely much more open than his father in terms of his influence, which has helped me quite a bit in writing the book.

I'm grateful to him for that.

But so before we jump into the book, which is I think a very important contribution to understanding what's happening in how things are going on.

Tell us just from here about your day job as content manager for the Bongino Report, which is one of the leading conservative news aggregators.

Yeah.

So back in late twenty nineteen, I was working a very very boring job at a bank I won't name him, and I got a call from Dan bong and he said, Hey, I'm starting a new website and you're going to run it.

And I thought, all right, perfect, I'm out of here.

So very shortly after we launched bonginoreport dot com.

It was an alternative to Drudge Report, and Drudge for forever basically was the leading conservative aggregator, pretty much the only one.

There was a very noticeable shift to either the center left to the left in recent years under Trump.

He seemed to have some sort of vendetta against Trump and that influences coverage everywhere.

There's been rumors that he sold the site, but I haven't seen in the evidence that that's actually the case.

So that was the genesis of Bungina Report, and we just try to educate people the best we can on a diverse array of topics.

It's mostly politics, but we throw you know, sports and entertainment, hell, fitness, and some other topics on the website, just so it's more of a one stop shop.

We have an opinion section that will feature yours truly quite often and a lot of other very well known authors.

So that's what I've been doing.

This is actually my last month there, but it's going to be in very very good hands.

You have really, you and Dan have really built that into a very significant website in terms of conservative networking.

Thank you so much.

Yeah, it's helped me a lot professionally, and I know it's helped educate a lot of people.

But I've had a lot of great contacts and I met you and your team through it, so it's helped me tremendously.

Before we get to your new book, I have to ask you, since you wrote Dumb and Dumber, how Cuomo and de Blasio ruined New York, we sort of have gone way beyond to Bosio.

I mean, what's your view of Zoran mom Donnie as the new mayor of New York.

Well, fisically, we already know what's going to happen, because it's going to be a continuation of what is already happening, and there being a wealth exodus, a person exodus, and you know, as someone who is in New Jersey or even if you're in any surrounding state, even more liberals are leaving to join your state.

So you know, not only is the exodus bad for the state itself losing people, the people leaving are predominantly liberals who don't understand cause and effect and don't realize that their own voting is what's causing the policies that caused them to leave, so they turn the surrounding states more blue.

I mean Vermont very famously was a bred state for a while.

It was immigration from New York that turned it blue.

So it's not going to be good for people like me in Jersey.

But then also he is an anti police to fund the police guy.

His chief of staff supports putting social workers and sending them instead of police.

And it's policies where just one question can collapse the idea it's okay, what if they have a knife, what if they have a gun, And they always give some fantastical answer of well, in a perfect world they wouldn't have one.

Well, we don't live in that world.

Other ideas like having fair free buses or continuing to not enforce the fare in the subway has sec order effects in terms of crime, and that you know, on an individual basis.

You know, if I don't pay my fare, I get onto the subway.

Okay, they're at three bucks.

Someone who doesn't understand crime could say, well, the cost of processing you and blah blah blah is more than three dollars.

So what's the point.

And what they're missing is the second order effect, and that of all people who commit crimes on the subway and by extension, the bus, basically one hundred percent of them don't pay the fare.

So it is a great filtering mechanism by enforcing that one hundred percent.

And for a long time, Costco that was their business model was to have a barrier to entry in terms of the fee you have to pay, and that pretty much filtered out anyone who would choplift and it'd cause other sorts of problems.

So we need that for you know, just law and order reasons as well.

Why do you think mom Donne emerged and I mean he got fifty percent of the mode in a three way field what do you think is happening.

Well, it's depressing at this works on adults.

I would say he ran a good campaign in the sense that it's the campaign I would have run running for high school class president or middle school class president and there's not going to be any homework and we're going to a skate park side school.

It was that kind of campaign.

And whatever sort of fake charisma he had seems to fool the left.

He has the almost identical fake smile that AOC has when they're trying to resonate with people.

It really just worked.

And his social media army was very effective as well.

They would pose videos of him just being a human being and blow it up as oh my god, look how lucky we are to have him, or things in that category.

I hit him going to a bar nightclub and oh my god, when was the last time you can remember a candidate doing this?

And I'm thinking, well, yeah, he wants to win an election.

This isn't rocket science here.

He's tried to appeal to as many people as possible, so, to be honest, the fact that he only got marginally over fifty percent, given how much he did out campaign his competitors, if you do a campaign adjusted basis.

I think he would have lost when we out campaigned him, but it was enough to win.

And we already know how the story is gonna end.

It only really ends positively if he can't get done anything he wants to get done.

I saw a report yesterday he's going to be calling Donald Trump.

I guess to try to fall out that relationship because Trump ahead of the election said he was gonna freeze federal funding.

He sort of walked it back, but Bloomberg yesterday was quoting Trump insiders as saying they do have certain programs in mind they're gonna target potentially.

So I think Zoran is gonna try to maybe fall out that relationship or work with Trump a little bit gun on his good side, and maybe that will take the form of not going through in certain policies.

But there's no way this ends up.

Well.

We have hundreds of years of history to tell us exactly what's gonna happen.

We have states that have had government owned grocery stores, and if he does have those government own grocery stores, we're gonna have photos of New Yorkers coming to New Jersey like bords Ey Elson, the supermarket all amazed that we have food in Jerseys So that'll be some amazing images.

To what extent do the limitations on the mayor, between the city council, the state legislature, and the governor.

To what extent is he less of a direct threat than his speeches would imply.

Well, I know Hoschel has cast doubt specifically in the free bussing program, so that's at least one although it seems that for half of the city they already have a free bussing program in that you just don't pay and for the bus driver it's not worth the confrontation, so maybe it's not much a change there.

And yes, he does need the city council to go along with the tax increases.

I mean, I believe there's only five or six Republicans in their city council.

So it just comes down to the center of left versus the progress faction, how they decided.

To what extent was the impact of George Soros and Alex Soros and the money they pour into building these systems, To what extent did that help with the rise of Mondani.

So one of the group that got the most money that was helping Mandami was the Working Families Party.

They've gotten many millions from Soros well Alex and George both and they are a third party that they do have representation in government.

I think they've won to two seats in the Philadelphia City Council, but it's mostly an add on to the Democratic Party in that they will run their candidates as Democrats.

And in New York they have fusion voting, meaning you can run as more than one party, So there is a single digit percent of the electorate probably that are Democrats who are so far left they are disillusioned with the party, even as far left as it is, and would only vote for a Democrat if they're also in the Working Families Party line.

Ed would vote for the Canada on the Working Families Parti's line.

Now, to get on that line, you have to sign on with a bunch of very cartoonish far left policies.

And this is basically what everyone at a Climate Hystoria protest or a free Palaceline protest believes, being very anti cop tacts billionaires and millionaires, and they never say how much, just always more so those kind of politicians, And Mamdami himself actually voted for himself on the Working Families Party line, So he clearly identifies with that faction, and it is a socialist faction, but it's really the most successful third party we have in the country, and that if you count people who are members of the Working Families Party plus the Democratic Party, the two have dozens of seats in New York legislatures and all of that.

I did not realize that he had voted on that line.

What does that tell you?

When he's done smiling, he actually is on the hard left.

He has the charism of a used car salesman.

Whenever I see that smile, I think you're trying to defraud me in some way.

I don't know.

It's just very bizarre to see because I think for us, there's no way it's even convincing.

But he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

He fundamentally, I don't know if he even views himself as American, and in fact, his mother himself and this was twelve years ago, said that he doesn't.

But the thing that was most notable to me during his election speech was that line where he says, you know it's for the Senegalese taxi drivers then used beck nurses.

These were demographics I didn't even know were associated with these professions.

I think it was like mad libs.

He was all right, it was Becky okay nurse.

But we on the right have for decades criticized Hyphi needed Americanism, so African American, Hispanic American, Asian American instead of just saying American, and he reversed it.

He dropped the American part.

I've never seen that done before, So I don't know.

He does seem to have an US versus that mentality.

When AOC was at one of his rallies talking of the groups who built the country, she never mentioned the British or the Dutch.

It was immigrant groups that have only been here for the past thirty to fifty years.

So he, I think, views himself and those who support him as separate from the rest of America, the country's standing stock, and we're also going to see that appear in his policies.

He himself has called for taxing, in his words, richer, whiter neighborhoods.

He made an effort to say whiter.

So that's the kind of guy he is.

How did Alex end up becoming the heir.

He actually was?

Not who people thought would be the first pick.

A lot of people thought his son Jonathan Sous was going to be the pick.

I personally leaned towards it being Alex, just because I knew that Alex was the one that was sort of accompanying him on his business trips growing up, and Alex through his social media for the past few years leading up to the announcement, just all the people who is publicly meeting with Tipney off that it would be him.

But there was an article in Vanity Fair I believe that talked about this, and a lot of insiders actually thought that Alex was the wrong person to lead the organization.

And if you've ever seen the guy speak, he's you know, I'm not perfect myself, but he's not exactly Shakespearean.

Someone who knows him described his speaking style as being like that of a record skipping And I think if anyone goes on YouTube and looks up his speech of his they'll know exactly what I mean and probably laugh at that description a little bit.

So what do you think motivates Alex?

Well, I think he's to some extent a carbon copy of his father.

I think that his father was, to a large extent motivated not only by wealth and power, but power just for the sake of having it.

And that was the life that Alex was groomed under From a very young age.

He was following his father around on trips all around the world.

So you know, while you and I were studying for our high school math tests, he was sitting in meetings with Nancy Pelosi and world leaders.

And he flaunts it on social media every single day it seems he is with someone new.

He posted one with Mamdami.

I think it was the night over the day after the election.

It was of note because he was actually in Europe when he posted that photo, meaning he took it probably weeks prior realized it might look bad if the anti billionaire candidate was pictured with a billionaire, and then decided, all right, well, once the election's over, we can do that.

And I'm told so.

He has posted about third thirty or so photos with the Prime Minister of Albania, who is wildly accused of turning the country into a narco state.

And I talked about that in the book.

Maybe that's a tie in of why Alex loves being there so much.

Maybe he's profiting from it.

But the former Prime minister told me he has flight logs that show something like one hundred and forty visits from Alex to Albania in the past couple of years, meaning what he's showing us on social media, as much as it is, is a microcosm of the true influence and he has officially even before he took over officially.

In June of twenty twenty three, he was posting a photo of himself introducing himself to the Prime Minister of North Macedonia and the caption the photo was it's an honor to introduce my father to the president, meaning it was a connection Alex himself had made and was now sharing them with his father.

It was a total role reversal, I point out in the book I Know Him Ramblings.

I'll wrap up on that.

In the book, he mentioned that he had basically taken over operations in Europe in twenty fifteen.

That was when George decided he was going to stop traveling there so often and he needed Alex to basically do his job there.

So it caused me to re examine a lot of the influence I had written about George's influence in Europe around those years.

And reanalyzed, well, what's the evidence of actually being Alex there and having all weaves together.

You point out that the level of penetration.

For example, when Biden became president, who are some seventeen people who came from one of the Soros funded operations, some of them pretty important, I mean near attendant as a very major player, had been very big on the Clinton team, also worked for Obama.

But she was president of Center for American Progress, which Soros was a major, major funder of Ron Clayton.

This really surprised me.

He's on the board of the Center for American prob Action Fund, which is their lobbying arm.

He was Biden's first White House chief of staff and I think probably far and away his best chief of staff.

I mean, you go down this, you'd be in to realize they've really penetrated the system in some very significant ways.

Yeah.

Then there was the three dozen or so meetings that Alex had at the White House, and a friend of mine who works at a CYC called NewsBusters.

He's Joe Vasquez.

He's got like their Soros guy.

So I asked him if he wanted to go through all the White House visitor logs with me and I don't know if this was because of the transition or if Biden's administration took them down, but those visitor logs actually got removed from the website at the end of his presidency.

Joe, I don't know what possessed him to do it, but he happened to have archived them months prior, so without him, this chapter would have never come to fruition.

Him and I spent about a month or so going through all of the visitor logs, and the real challenge was, well, let's try to figure out what those visits correlate to.

And there is about two thirds of them there was some sort of climate issue leading into the meeting or happening being announced within two weeks after it, so it might be a correlation, causation, coincidence, but in two thirds of the cases that's what would happen.

And we thought it was just notable because our research had also shown well, it was four hundred and thirty eight million dollars he spent on these climate causes, the first ever writings of Alex Soros publicly or on climate change, and that's kind of his issue.

So that was our major corelating factor.

But there was one day where in the morning, the President of Kenya had visited the White House and it was at an event where Alex was their president.

He was actually pictured with the President of Kenya.

The President of Kenya was actually working with OSF at the time, USAID and all these green climate crazy deals and all that, and his reputation was kind of in patters at home.

There's a lot of corruption allegations.

Something like half their national debt was in fact was linked to corruption, and this was viewed as an attempt to clean up his image by having him to be the first Kenyan president to visit with Joe Biden.

But that same exact day, just hours, I think seven or so hours later, Alex had a private meeting with Joe Biden.

So after that then all these climate related deals start occurring with Kenya's president in the White House and USAID, and it seemed like a pretty interesting coincidence.

If it was one that all those people would be together, then all these things linked to Alex would play out.

So I think that was the biggest one that we found there.

And also Patrick Gaspar, the former president of the Open Society Foundation, ended up getting an ambassadorship late into the Biden administration as well.

You also have this I think intriguing strategy, dangerous strategy where the soress have gone in and spent about forty million dollars to help elect about seventy five district attorneys and that's had a real effect on whether or not criminals get prosecuted.

I mean, do you think that was a deliberate strategy to undermine the rule of law or what were they thinking?

Well, I would just say it has to be.

You know, these law and order issues, the most predictable outcome is going to be the outcome.

If you have someone who tried to murder someone unsuccessfully and a judge says, well, we're not going to give you any bail, you can go free.

What do we think they're going to do.

My guess would be they might try to kill the person they try to kill unsuccessfully.

If they are an arson s I think they might go consider more artisan after this.

The problem with these second chance judges is they think second chances are infinity chances, but a lot of them ideologically just empathize with criminals.

They had this idea that just circumstances alone can exonerate you if you had a rough childhood, that's good enough.

And it was incredible that the Joe Biden of the nineteen nineties, when speaking about the crime bill of all people, said, you know, I don't care if you had a rough childhood.

If you're a criminal, you're a criminal.

I'm going what happened to that guy?

That actually is the attitude that we need.

Obviously that Joe Biden is long gone.

You know, the first book on George I looked through all of the crime increases under them, and granted some of this was under the backdrop of the national crime wave in twenty twenty from the George Floyd protests, but in the places where there was the protests plus the Soros DA, the crime rate went up significantly higher.

We had crime doubling in many cities with things like shoplifting.

It's so high that in many places they don't even report it.

And someone pointed out, like the stats can be misleading in that if you are in a place where you have to overprotect against it, you were to some extent in prison your own citizens because you want in prison criminals.

If I have to go into CVS and wait thirty minutes to get someone to unlock a role of deodorant.

For me, that is a micro prison you're putting on your own customers because you won't do it to other people.

And even if you had a scenario where okay, you have Liberal City where the theft rate is identical to Safe City, but in Liberal City everything is locked up and in the Safe City everything's on the honor system, are they really the same crime rate?

And you can see in that analogy how misleading the stats are.

In San Francisco, there was one month where there was a single Target store, just one Target location in the whole city, and they decided they were going to test out a new system to report one hundred percent of shoplifting incidents to the San Francisco Police Department just for one month.

That month, the crime rate in the entire city doubled.

And there are tens of thousands of business in the city, One business reporting every shoplifting incident doubled the city's crime rate.

So that just goes to show you that the crime rates we see, as bad as they are, aren't even close to what they really are in those cities.

And again everyone knows this, and Chasa Buden was famously ousted the margin of the vote was basically consistent with the percent of San Francisco's electorate that are Republican, meaning they kind of got Kingmaker's status in that election.

Without them, they might still have that DA.

So liberals will vote for the worst people possible and enable them to then degree.

So I am cynical on this issue, and that I think these judges know exactly what they're doing.

I don't see how they couldn't possibly know it, because it's the same result every time.

There's never been a case where you let out a guy without bail who committed an attempted homicide and goes, well, that was nice.

I won't make that mistake again.

Were you right?

The George Source did more than any individual to shape the narrative on drugs in America.

Why did he do that?

And how long has he been doing it?

So since the nineteen eighties.

It was what became the Drug Policy Institute, and they started with marijuana, which was, I guess, ironically the gateway drug to bigger drug decriminalization and legalization efforts, where you start with the least harmful drug and you have the rhetoric of well, we really want to lock people up over a plan, and I've gone through the numbers.

I don't think we really were ever locking people up.

You were only getting locked up from marijuana really, if you had a ton of it in your trunk, or if it was in conjunction with other crimes.

I went through the ones because there is I think some libert carrying group had seventy thousand people that have been to jail for weed, and I went through just a dozen of them, and it's like a man committed an armed robbery had marijuana on him, and I'm thinking, well, I don't think the weed was really the reason here for that, but that's how they would sell it, and they, through the media as well, convinced people this was selling to be normalized.

And then I think the narrative they then push after that was harm reduction, where it was well, we're going to have people do drugs, so we might as well have it be safe.

And that logic only works if there is a fixed percentage of the population you're going to be hooked up to a heroin machine all day and go all right, well, something we can do, we got to make it safer.

That's not how it works when you normalize drugs.

And take away the stigma you have people do more of them.

And even if you can make drugs safer through these sorts of efforts, you will also increase the volume by which they're used.

So even if you made the drugs as dangerous, if you're doing them twice as much, it nets out to zero.

And I have stats there on the safe injection sites and all these sorts of efforts.

And you also make surrounding areas way less safe in that you basically are sectioning off a part of town where you are gonna have drug users congregating and no one else.

Normal people can't go there, so you're gonna have very shady people.

It's gonna increase crime there.

So there's just all these second order effects no one is considering.

And the real solution is, well, we just say you actually can't do drugs in the street, and if you're going to, we're gonna have to put you somewhere, and it's either gonna be prison or some work program where you can't do drugs.

And there's plenty of countries that do that, but we've convinced ourselves in this country it's cruel to stop people from destroying their lives.

I mean, you have this general picture somebody is very far to the left, very pro criminal, very pro drug, and yet in Ukraine, at least on the surface, he seems to be an investing money in a way that's important to a country that's in danger of being overrun.

Yeah, so he has been making a lot of connections with these Lenzi administration.

Basically, Zelenzi's number two is a guy who has been friends with quite a bit.

They post pictures together on social media wishing each other a happy birthday, so I guess they're somewhat close.

He has met with Solenzia a number of times.

He donated a million dollars to a charity that his wife founded.

IBus did another problem with that ant problem with him helping Ukraine.

The question just is what is he going to do with the influence after the war, And I think it's going to be to sort of push a lot of these sort of social agenda for ins.

I have a whole chapter in Albania and his relationship with the Prime Minister Eddie Rama, and just last week or so they passed a law recognizing more than two genders.

I talked to the former prime minister and I said, or I just texted and I'm like, so is this Alex Soros?

And he just strets back, Absolutely, it's Alex Soros.

But okay, well that makes a lot of sense.

One tie and I did find there with his Albanian influence was there was a very large munition contract that Ukraine signed with Albania, and Albania was an odd choice because they don't have the capabilities to fulfill the contract, so they're basically just going to sublet that contract out to a different country, which I just sent a raised the question of why do you need a middleman?

It just seemed like a favor for his friend Eddie Rama to make some extra money, given that they could have just contracted directly with whoever's going to actually fulfill the contract.

So there was some minor corruption there that I think I found.

It's a country that I think pay attention to for how he's going to try to liberalize the society afterwards.

This is a person both father and son.

Now, as you point out in your new book The Air Inside the Not So Secret Network of Alex Soros, this is two generations of extraordinarily rich people trying to profoundly change the world.

In the direction that most of us would think's crazy, and they have the money to have a real impact and.

They were succeeding.

Yeah, I mean, it's I don't know if it's funny or tragic that his spending is classified as philanthropy and it's the opposite of philanthropy.

The other thing, too, is his spending two in total is understated because there was the USAID connection.

And I had known of USAID from writing about George in the past and other left wing groups, but even I didn't realize the extent of it.

And it is going back to the sort of mad libs analogy.

It was just the craziest forms of left wing spending you can imagine.

It would be like, all right, we're spending money on helping transgender raccoons learn dance therapy.

I'm going wait a second, what are we spending money on here?

I might have made that one up.

I have a hunch that one was not quite accurate.

No, it was things in that category of just this could easily be made up.

And George Sorolis has been working with USAID East with the nineteen nineties.

I found a document from nineteen ninety three on an early project there to train journalists in Eastern Europe to promote his agenda, and the way he would get funding from it would be both from directly getting money to groups that he controls.

So in two thousand and nine under Obama, he used his influence in USAID to basically change the rules on what you would have to do to get USAAD funding, and it was sort of like that Working Families pledge.

You'd have to sign on to a portfolio of just random left wing ideas like supporting legalizing prostitution, decriminalizing drugs, things the OSF supports.

And this is even for groups that are not political, would have to sign on to all of these things.

And you'd have groups when you'd gone to who we're going, I just want to build a well, why do I have to be on board with game arriage all all of a sudden, it was to flex control over a lot of groups globally, and maybe someone would just have to fake it, but some of them would go along with it, and then he would receive billions of dollars to groups that were not even necessarily groups that he funded or founded, but groups that were adjacent that had the exact same goals as him that he would use to work in conjunction with him.

The most notable group that he started was the East West Management Institute, which got two hundred and seventy million for USAD and it was actually the bulk of the usaa DE funding that was direct to him.

And that group is run by a woman named Elina Fiso, and she is the ex wife of Eddie Rama, the Prime Minister of Albania.

And that group played a very large role in constitutional reform in Albania and the consequence of that constitutional reform was it completely left their legal system and share the percentage of people convicted for drug trafficking collapsed.

There's a backlog for decades and cases that are still getting worked through, and it coincides with Albania becoming Europe's first narco state because they lack the capacity to prosecute these people, and I argue it is by design.

There's an enormous amount of corruption in their permitting process to build buildings in Almanium, and there is this paradox where there is a declining population but there is a surplus an explosion in housing construction, but it is all drug trafficking money.

So they're building these high rises.

No one is living in them, so it's not really adding to the housing stock.

So the average rent there is five hundred dollars a month.

That's basically eighty percent of the average salary.

So if this was legitimate construction, they should have some of the cheapest housing in Eastern Europe.

Because it's all drug money, it is flooding to supply with housing that is not actually helping anyone.

And I've seen estimates that Rama the Prime Minister, is worth hundred of millions in euros, but heart to verify.

Let me just say I think that your new book, The Air Inside the Not So Secret Network of Alex Soros is available on Amazon and books risols, and combined with your earlier work on his father, you may well be the world's leading expert on the Soros family and their efforts to undermine the West.

And I want to thank you for joining us.

I think this has been fascinating and I know you're going to go on and serve the country.

The work you've been doing is very very important.

He's a lot from you, So thank you very much.

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