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The college will playoff bracket, It's all over the place.

There's about three teams that are sitting on the outside looking in.

We're thinking to ourselves, do they need to be in not out?

On maybe these teams?

Why are we doing G five's I don't know.

But Championship weekend, this is where we're gonna go over North Texas Tulane.

Biggest storyline coming out of that.

Both teams do not have their head coach, Duke Virginia.

Everyone and their mother who loves chaos is focused on Duke BYU versus Texas Tech.

We saw this a couple of weeks ago.

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As Josh pay breaks it down Alabama versus George the SEC Championship.

A lot of people wondering why does it matter with the new playoff bracket.

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We had a massive milestone last night live in front of the world, and it was Josh Pate with the goal of getting the five hundred k subscribe.

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I was told to pass along the message that the ring the I Do is you accepting the role of commission of college football.

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Say what, it's starting to seep in there a little bit more.

Coach Coach mc guire.

Headed to the Big twelve Championship game.

But what's on his mind?

Future Commissioner of College, Future Commissioner College?

Hey did you text it about that?

Like?

How did you?

He just randomly was in a press conference.

He was like, let me just shout out, Josh Paper.

Yeah, Like his sid hit me up and said, Joey just said this, which to me means you guys are just sitting around, you know, between practice out there, and he said that.

It wasn't until an hour later one of my buddies said, hey, cool, shout out and McGuire's press conference and I said, say what now?

And then I go and watch and I'm just clapping in my car at the YMCA.

I just took the caffeine water.

Elbows are going a little itchy, adrenalines flow in and uh yeah, so first coach, but probably not the last coach.

Like now it's you don't want to be first, but you don't want to be third.

So like, who's going to be second to publicly use their platform to do the responsible thing?

You know?

And the big thing is they're probably going to win the Big twelve Championship.

So now you have the Big twelve Championship winner, claiming Josh paid is the commissioner of college football.

Now we need legit just two more dominance to fall Big ten at SEC.

We get those that two done.

It just completely dismissed the ACC.

Yeah, not even there at this point.

I mean, based on his college football bracket, right, are we all kind of dismissing the ACC?

I am you were this year you did announce the ACEC for twenty twenty five season.

I don't denounce.

I think the only resume that's worth talking about is Miami's.

But even then, is it worth talking about?

Because because my thing, my whole thing last night.

Did you watch this show last night?

I watched part of it, but my daughter, she was on a swing, she hit the back of her head.

It's a whole story.

Wow.

Well, the one clan's not having a good time on half of November.

Because he's he's on his platform saying Miami has to be in over Notre Dame.

No, no, no, Notre Dame.

Oh yeah, not Dame, Notre Dame beat, or sorry, Miami beat Notre Dame.

So yes, I agree with you.

Careful, it's not that simple.

It's not as simple as play.

I'm speaking sarcastically.

Of course, you're right, because you know, you play the game on the field, and you're thinking to yourself, hey, man, if the resumes are like remotely comparable and we've played, shouldn't I get the edge?

And then the Notre Dame calculator heads come in and like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

There's so much more you need to know.

And you would sit there and listen to all that.

It would take like an hour, and then you would go, well that just made my head spin.

But still they played on the same field, right, yes, and obviously they're comparable because they're ranked right next to each other.

Right.

They would just sit there with their mouth open and you would say, okay, Miami over Notre Dame.

Really, people overthink the room on this stuff because they have too much time to sit around and thing.

It really doesn't have to be that complicated.

It can be if we didn't play, but if you and I played and then our resumes look similar.

Like what a disservice to head to head results to try and speak over them, like one of the big talking points.

I get it.

If I were a Notre Dame fan, I'd be fighting to get my team in.

I understand that one of the talking points has been well, yeah, head to head does, Matt.

It is a data point, but it's not the only data point.

The committee needs to look at everything they are, but the data points don't have to be weighted equally, Like if I got a head to head result and I beat you on the field, and then everything else is kind of shades of gray.

The most common sense viewpoint in the world, Like my sister could walk in and say, okay, well let's just put the head to head winner over the head to head loser.

It really is that simple.

Yeah, that's why she wins the March Madness Bracket every year.

She doesn't overthink the room, and in this case, you don't have to overthink the room on this.

You got a result on the field and you should honor it.

Well, the way it started is what is it?

Notre Dame comes out at eight, Miami's at eighteen, Like I'm with you.

When Notre Dames started oh and two, you look at the rest of their schedule and the majority of college football fans is like, Notre Dame's out.

There's no way.

We all know that they're probably going to sneak in somehow, but there's no way.

They start off oh and two against Miami, who was ranked eated at the time.

And then you lose the tx A and we talked about it, who's.

In it again?

Collectively four points of these two teams, And you're sitting there and you look at Miami and you are fired up for Miami because they were a top three team at one point.

And all Miami has to do is handle their simple ACC schedule and could lose a game, yes, and could lose one game, but they lost two games.

Like if you look at Miami, SU and Louisville, yeah, it's like you go look at Miami, like, just go handle your ACC schedule, which is the worst Power four conference this year they played against their when they played across conference against Big twelve teams, ACC went one and six first Big twelve teams like by far and away, the ACC is the worst conference this year of the Power four, and all you gotta do is go handle your ACC schedule, not including a schedule that doesn't include Virginia nor Duke, who's both in the ACC Championship, Georgia Tech, who was like a front runner in the AEC until they kind of pissed on their leg there at the end.

But those three teams were on their schedule.

It was SMU pitt in Louisville and they lost to SMU and Louisville and their overtime, which one came first, was it?

It was Louville and then they lost to SMU and they lose right there at the end of October or right at the beginning of November to SMU and OT after losing to a very average Louisville team in the ACC to where when you lost the first one, you went from three ranking down to ten, not that bad of a drop, but then when you lose to SMU, who was six and three at the time in the ACC, who lost a Baylor who had lost the TCU, who had had some crossover against other conferences, you lose the SMU and then you dropped to what was it like eighteen twenty like Notre Dame, after they lost their first two weeks, they dropped all the way to twenty four.

And it's not like they were making leap frogs bounds up to the top ten, like incrementally they climbed throughout the rest of the season because they skunked everybody that they were playing.

I believe a heavier ACC schedule.

I believe there was a stat as well Notre Dame was the first team in the modern area to go start zero to two and still being in the top twenty five.

Is that a correct stat possibly?

I think so.

I think they started Yeah, I believe they dropped all the way to twenty four twenty.

But again, you look at Miami, who is a good football team.

I wanted like when Miami started off the way they did, it's like it would be great, Miami makes us run.

But when they get in these moments and Miami becomes Miami and Carson Beck becomes Carson Beck.

They lost two games in a very average ACC schedule that they should have easily been able to handle, and they hurt their self doing that.

To where then when the college wall playoff rankings open up on day one, and you could say that's where it sucked.

That's where it was kind of tough for Miami to get in the conversation.

But Miami started at eighteen when the CFP rankings came out after again their second loss to SMU.

So coming off a loss, they get ranked at eighteen.

Notre Dame gets ranked in the top ten.

So you're incrementally putting them closer together to where now they can be side by side.

But you kind of the whole system gets messed up if you're sitting there and it's like you just make a decision, Hey, we're gonna put Miami in over Notre Dame.

Like I agree, Miami has his head.

To head win, but the head to head win the only playoff caliber team Miami has faced is Notre Dame, and it came at the very end of August against a freshman quarterback who had his first career start at home on your home turf in Miami, and you beat him by three.

It came down to the last three minutes of the game.

So the way Notre Dames played, the progress that they've made, the way that they've been beating every team by double digits, car has clearly gotten better offensive line's gotten better, defense has been much better, opportunists down the strets to their back of the ball, and Jeremiah Love since that, since that third week, he's looked like this Heisman winner or this Heisman candidate that we all you know, you bet it on him to be the Heisman guy before the season.

But he is clearly, debatably arguably the best player in college football.

And they have momentum with Marcus Freeman, a coach who again they lost in Northern Illinois last year early, But where did they end up at the end of the year The national championship.

So we're sitting here looking at the college football playoffs and who would have the best chance to go get a national title.

It's it's kind of hard for me to say, Yeah, Miami should very easily, without a doubt.

No debate should be in over Notre Dame versus because of what Miami did to themselves during the season in an ACC schedule, and the ACC sucks this year.

Yeah, my retort to that is I would pick Notre Dame to beat Miami today.

So like, no one needs to convince me they think Notre Dame is a better team.

Like I'm telling you this is a guy.

I'm a guy who believes Miami should be over Notre Dame, and I'm gonna grant you several points.

The ACC sucks this year.

Check.

It's inexcusable Miami lost those two games, no excuse for it.

Check.

I think Notre Dame is a better team than Miami.

Check.

All Right, So the first two points, those are already baked into my opinion.

They were already baked in even going into this weekend or this last Yet last night, when the rankings were released, you knew the AC not you.

The committee knew the ACC sucked.

The committee knew that Miami had two losses.

All that's already baked into the pie going into last night, and they're ranked within one spot of each other.

Right, Okay, so that's the current state of affairs.

Then the other part of it is, all right, the eyeball test, which I think has carried the day for Notre Dame so far.

Like I truly believe what's happened is they have gotten those people in that room and there are enough people who just flat out say what all three of us just said, We kind of just think Notre Dame is the better team to where that's carried today, that's seesawed heavier than the head to head result has seesawed.

The difference in me, I think in a lot of people in that committee is I don't care about the eyeball test that includes my eyeball test, because we've done this show every week this year, Right, have any of us gone close to perfect We even last week or one.

You came close to a.

Perfect week last week, but even you went four in one, right, which means no one's football acumen, no one's predictive nature is flawless.

So if you could ever screw up judging a game predictably, why would I value your eyeball test or my eyeball test when we've got critical data and metrics that we predefine that are on a piece of paper.

Now you're right that they can't play this weekend.

Neither of those teams can play this weekend.

So I look, none of this is logic.

We're applying logic to any logical situation already, because that's just the nature of.

A telioris structure of the play.

But I understand someone driving around right now, or someone just hanging out and there watching the show and they're thinking, all right, even having set all that word salad, if both of these teams are ranked where they are, neither of them play this weekend, how could one ever jump the other one?

And the answer is it shouldn't happen.

The answer part B is Miami should have already been a head of Notre Dame in my opinion.

But Part C is I think it can still happen because of the ACC doomsday scenario that we have telegraphed on this show for like a month.

We've been talking about this as a possibility, but we're here now seven and five.

Duke could win the ACC Saturday, and if they do, they're not going to the playoff because they won't be one of the five highest rank conference champs.

So you'll have the SEC's Champ, the Big Tens Champ, the Big Twelves Champ.

You'll get two G five's in there, and then it'll just be up to seven more spots for at large teams.

And I believe if Brigham Young loses that Big twelve championship game, I think they would remove themselves from being the last remaining team between Notre Dame and Miami, and I think that would just put Notre Dame in Miami head to head on selection Sunday, and the committee would have to look at that.

If Duke wins the ACC Championship game, the committee would have to look at that and say, well, we either put Miami in or we don't put an ACC team in.

And I don't really care.

Like You're right, the ACC's hot garbage.

It's terrible this year.

This system was not built to lock out power for conferences.

It was not built to exclude an entire power conference at the expense of having multiple G five teams in just not the way it was built.

It's an ATM and it's built to spit money a certain way.

It's unpopular to say, but that's the reality of it.

I think that committee could take another hard look at Notre Dame Miami given light of that new situation, and at the eleventh hour, jump Miami, and if you think that's impossible.

Hunter Yurchik has largely been a train wreck the playoff committee chair when he explained this stuff, But one thing Rhese Davis pinned him down on last night is could idle teams move?

Could there be movement between idle teams the final conference championship weekend, and he said, yes, they can move.

He refused to say that the rankings for teams that aren't playing this weekend are fixed.

So they move Bama up ahead of Notre Dame last night.

So Notre Dame got one spot closer to Miami if Brigham Young loses, and they're nearly a two touchdown underdog.

If they lose, that's the last remaining team between Notre Dame and Miami, at which point on selection Sunday, those two will be right next to each other.

And you're telling me that the head to head result with teams that comparable is not going to push Miami over the finish line.

I believe it would.

It could.

I mean, how much is like money and ratings and.

That doesn't matter.

You're telling me that matters.

You don't think any of the money matters.

That's a brand like Notre Dame out.

Of the keep it a brand like Notre Dame out of the playoff when they started at A like their system, Yeah, their system Notre Dame started at A.

They've been in the playoff the whole time, and you're gonna say the way that they've been beating everybody handedly that they're slowly just going to trickle out and then they're just going to be out of the college football playoff.

Remember this this past weekend.

It's not like nothing happened this past weekend.

Okay, Notre Dame's demolition of pit a few weeks ago, that was a really big talking point, Like that really boosted Notre Names resume.

Remember that's a ranked versus rings.

You didn't care game days up there, like, that's that's all well and good, you go beat them, I think thirty seven to fifteen or something like that.

All right, So the committee really said, man, that's that's great for Notre Dame, which it was.

Miami just went and beat the same pit team in the same building.

By more, I didn't even hear anyone mention it last night.

It's almost like it didn't even happen.

So I'm not saying that should be.

I mean, you know, Miami has the day that they were up, Like it's like I want to say, they were up and they're still throwing the ball deep in the did you watch Notre Names trying to get this point at this point in the season, you need to make that not Miami, I like sitting where they're sitting at.

Yeah, Notre Dame did the same thing against Stanford.

They should.

You got to run it up.

It's not disrespectful to the game.

It's respecting the system or acknowledging the system.

I just think it would be bizarre again being ranked eight.

It would the way that they've mopped everybody throughout the rest of the year, since these rankings come out weekly, that they've just crept out and now they're out of the college world.

Yeah, to be inexcusable to try and explain it, because there will be no explanation.

And your sin was you probably had Miami too low to begin with, Like bumping them down to fifteen would be okay because you could still make the argument if Notre Dame's eight in Miami's fifteen on that Tuesday night, you could say, the head to head doesn't matter yet because they're not close enough.

They're not in the same comparative pool.

We haven't had a chance to apply the head to head.

And then when Miami creeps up closer finally, like the light clicks on and you're in the same comparative pool and the head to head matters, And that's when Miami jumps Notre Dame.

They didn't do that, So if my theory is correct, they're gonna have to do it after both of their seasons have already been completed for over a week.

And then imagine trying to explain.

That no and too, It's like across the college FOOTBA landscape, fans, players, coaches, everybody, when is the best time to lose early in the year, And Notre Dame they get collectively four points to a good A and M team, a good Miami team, and they've done nothing but take care of business since then, Whereas like, I'm rooting for Miami, but you lose those two games in the ACC, bro, and then I'm wanting to watch both teams Like in the college fall Playoff, I want to believe in the talent and crystal Ball, which, by the way, you know pay T had Chris Ball like he's tight in, he's tied in with he's got.

The numbers, he's the numbers you need to have to be tied into the.

Yeah, I don't see a photo with Freeman post game to where they're kind of talking shopping.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, But it's like I just think it Coach Freeman, like it's like Carson Beck, Carlson Beck like him in the big moment on the big stage, do we really think Miami is going to do some damage based on what we've seen, based.

On his season in the biggest moment, in the biggest stage.

He actually did answer that question.

It's when the they went behind the closed door and they had to play the shitty acc schedule.

They're like a couple of times because the.

Was Notre Dame in the beginning of the year and never had the questions of Carson Beck was it Carson Beck problem?

And was George of the problem?

Carson Beck and Carson Beck came out there and lit up Notre Dame.

He became the favorite for a little while.

Yeah, and then there's a defensive on CJ.

Carr picks against Louisville.

Well, hey, so you want to play the.

Game, I'm saying, that's that will, that's in a different room.

That's that's the the lights are off.

That's like that's practice field, right, that's.

We're talking about.

The lights are on.

It is week zero, Week one, and we're all so excited.

Look at this matchup.

We have this resurgence of a rivalry between Miami and Notre Dame and these two guys coming out of it a freshman and Carson Beck who's trying to resurrect his career out like last year was a heisman.

I think he was a front runner last year.

Right, he comes into Miami and dices under their name wall everybody's watching, and then nobody's watching and he funks up.

It's like, does that really matter that much?

So you put him back the big stage and we've already had them on the big stage.

Is you're not just gonna do it again?

Because I'm willing to say, I think if we sat here, we went to Notre Dame Miami, if Notre Dame can or Miami can find their way to get up in a game, those those defensive ends, eight that offensive line and get again, because that's not just may the offensive line's gotten better.

Look how much better that Look at the talent they've played against.

Yeah, and then it's like you're going to sleep.

If you're the left tackle and right tackle and you're dreaming about those guys, you're like, oh shit, I gotta see them again.

I thought they were a thing of the past.

I thought I didn't have to touch them again.

Now all of a sudden you're going to see them on a neutral field where the same shit is going to happen.

Can I also say one thing, all right, the Louisville SMU losses, I don't have to try and defend that to make Miami's case, Like, I think I can bake those losses into the pie and still make the pie presentable enough.

People talk about all unranked losses like they're the same thing.

Like you could lose to Akron who's number one thirty, or lose to Louisville who's number twenty eight.

People just talk about them like they're the same losses.

They're not the same losses.

Like Louisville and SMU are not elite teams.

They're not terrible teams.

They're just okay teams.

So when you lose to them, yeah, like it ought to have the impact on your resume, that losing to an okay team would have both of them.

It's not we lost to like ungodly terrible teams.

We were four touchdown favorites or anything like that.

And the other thing is what I'm about to say, I don't believe should matter, but the committee uses it all the time.

So I could weaponize their logic against them.

You want to start talking about specific injuries and what teams were at one point.

Well, Isaac Brown, who's the best player in Louisville's team tailbag, was still healthy when they played Miami.

Then he got hurt and they fell off down the stretch, which makes their record look worse.

They're ranked when Miami played them, and they were probably a ranked caliber team when Miami played them.

Again, I don't believe in this logic.

I'm just saying, since the committee disingenuously uses this kind of logic, I feel free to use it.

So you're saying that the committee used the logic of when these teams played they were ranked there for.

Here's what the committee does.

The Committee does not actually decide the rankings.

A computer does.

The Committee then slaps their name on it, and they go on TV and like reverse engineer logic to excuse away or explain rankings that they themselves are not responsible for.

And the reason I know that to be true is because we're in coaching season right now, so we're in coaching search mode, and Florida and Auburn and LSU and Ole Miss Penn State like they've all been wrapped up in this stuff.

You can go on Twitter every ten minutes and hit refresh and get new leaked information about coaching searches right best, and you just sit there and wonder, like, wow, so much of this information comes out, and these athletic directors they're involved in that process and all the information leaks.

Yet you're putting athletic directors in a room to decide the rankings, and no information about the process ever leaks.

Do you ever wonder how that's strange, How information from something that should be way more highly classified does leak, like a coaching search.

But when it comes to twelve or thirteen of you in a room where you're allegedly hot, like hot heavenly debating the rankings.

Dude, on TV last night, Sai Manda, the notre name Alabama debate.

Was intense, so fourth down, Oh dude, it.

Was so intense.

Why don't those details ever come out?

No details ever come out?

It's cause they're lying to you and a computer spits that stuff out and then they just kind of slapped their name on the side of it, and then they have to go on TV and try and explain the rankings process.

But they didn't really take part in it.

That's how you get this garbage.

Like, well, you know, Alabama, they were up seventeen to nothing at one point versus Auburn.

Yeah, but they were also tied at one point versus Auburn later in the game.

Yeah, they ran the ball Okay.

Plus it's a rivalry game.

Boy, that coordinator really made a ballsy call on fourth down.

These are not data points.

This is just minutia.

This is stuff you say.

It's like when your mom just was too tired to take you to the park when you were growing up, and she said, mommy's got a lot of stuff to do tonight.

She didn't have anything to do, She just didn't want to take you to the park.

She could have just told you, we're not going to the park because I don't feel like it.

The committee could just say these are the rankings.

Calls we say these are the rankings, But instead it's so much stuff that doesn't matter or that shouldn't matter.

It's so incongruent.

Logically, you could take whatever he said last night about Alabama, and I could twist that frame of logic to excuse away anything.

I could put Texas at number seven somehow Someway using the Bent logic that Hunter your a check in, not just him, but like all of the committee chairs have used in the past.

So to say I have a little bit of an issue with the process would be accurate.

Yeah.

I think if Miami gets in, just the more of a case where the power of the future college football commissioner would be alive and well, Miami all of a sudden gets in.

He after he releases his clip and stance on Miami getting in over Notre Dame.

Hey, I'm not a Notre Dame should join a conference guy.

I don't care what they do.

I'd find with them either way.

However, this is one of the first times they may have to pay a price for not being in a conference.

If they were in a conference title game Saturday, we're probably in.

Yeah, because I think I think Alabama's in regardless because they're playing in a conference title game.

Notre Dame would probably be in regardless.

Miami would probably have to sit at home because you'd be sitting here talking about Notre Dame earning the right to play in the game.

You get that extra data point like win a conference and you're in, of course, But I think even losing a conference title game, especially a big one like the Big Ten or the SEC, that earns you a little bit of a bump in the committee's mind.

Yeah.

I think last year when the or whenever the twelve team playoff came out, it was like, hey, this five and six slot, that's kind of Notre Dames forever, right, because they get to live in this independent world.

But one thing you brought up with the committee and using old games when teams were ranked, so like a team played a team that was ranked at that time, now they're no longer ranking.

That's a reason why this team should be bumped up higher.

If that is logic that the committee is using, why isn't Vanderbilt in then because.

They don't apply it evenly?

But that yeah, because the logic that the committe would have just said, then Vanderbilt has four top twenty five wins in one top ten.

Yep, and they're ten and two selectively apply it.

Yeah.

And so I'm looking at the thing last night and I understand the Miami Notre Dame argument that's not near as interesting to me is like, why is Vanderbilt sitting behind Texas?

And everybody's answer is, well, Texas beat Vanderbilt, but Texas is nine to three, Vanderbilt is ten and two in a conference that you've said is the most stacked middle pack conference of all time or at this point.

Yeah, I do think the SEC has a great step.

They have the most depth they've gone through the SEC.

They've won the SC.

They beat Missouri when Missouri's rinking college game Day was there.

They beat South Carolina when they were eleventh in the entire country at that time.

It was going off of the skill players they had coming back and the run they had last year, and so at that point, I think we all viewed South Carolina as a possible contender in the SEC.

So why is Vanderbilt being hurt and put at fourteen when I think they should be in?

And I think it's not in so much of the Miami and Notre Dame argument.

It's more of like, that's where this G five thing, I keep coming back to it, and I'm like, these guys, Yeah, I'd love.

To see all these teams just being a playoff so you can watch them.

Play Vanderbilt against the Tulane of the North Texas or all these other G five teams.

It's like.

Just put Vandy in their leagues.

Yeah, you know, you have to have them, had to for all that, for all I care.

Put Vandy in the ACC.

Like Vandy's running the ACC right now in their top four lock.

Yeah, topayer, they're undefeated eleven one.

Well, probably do the same thing in the Big twelve, to be honest, this year, probably it's them in Texas Tech in the Big twelve by a fairly good margin.

Yeah, I mean yeah, Texas Tech to me is just there's Texas Tech and then there's the rest of the Big Gap and everybody else.

The hard part is when you're sitting there arguing like Texas Vandy.

Texas did beat Vandy.

Vandy was coming back, but that could have easily been a blowout by Texas.

They also lost to the logic.

Of it could have been a blowout, Like we're not We're sitting there and Texas goes as to this big lead.

Everyone's like, Vandy cannot come from behind.

They're not built that way.

The first quarter, there's tweets going out saying this game is over.

That was fun, It was cool to it was exciting to talk about Vandy for a little bit.

Vandy comes back and at one point we're sitting there watching on side kick for them to kind of recover.

But Yo, they might actually fucking do this.

Judge the football game for the four quarters that it is, right.

Texas is the entire game.

Can't just say, hey, they went out to this massively and it wasn't Alabama seventeen.

Yeah, that's how dumb it is to say, well, they were up seventeen.

Texas did the.

Same thing against Misissippi State coming back from the right.

Yeah, and in Texas the wire with Kentucky and Mississippi State, Like you're saying, it's like, well, if that's a factor, then we should put that in.

Also, if with the depths of the depth of the SEC conference, because I do think it is the deepest conference this year.

Now, at the end of the year, you look at Vanderbilt's resume, they beat one one top half SEC team, only one team in the top eight and it was missoo was dollars, a third string quarterback, everybody else.

When they had their shot against Obama and Texas they lost.

So if you're sitting there looking at all the SEC teams, because how many how many are in there right now?

Four Alabama for Georgia, Oklahoma.

Yeah four four, But yeah, so you got four teams in there.

Couldn't that same logic be said about A and M.

Yeah, bute loss.

So when we're sitting there picking the game last week and you're looking at who A and M's face that all their wins have been against bottom half teams are finally playing a top half team in the SEC.

But A and M was undefeated.

Now it's like, you have the entire resume at Vanderbilt and if you're putting it against Miami, Notre Dame and then Texas.

In the conversation, if you just look at Vanderbilt as a whole, as a ten and two team, because I think it sucks a ten and two SEC team is going to be on the outside.

They're gonna get screwed.

They're not going to get in the College Wall playoff.

But if you do look at their resume as a whole, they've beat one top half SEC team and it was Missouri and it was zalars as a third string.

See, you're never gonna You're never gonna sell me on the fact that going to Niland Stadium and beating Tennessee last week is not a top half sec win.

That is a that's a big time Tennessee.

They ended up on the bottle.

That's just Will and I are arguing the same points a different way.

The similar to you were saying you could you can misconstrue everything.

The guy said to put Texas at seven.

You're saying, look at their look at their wins.

They only had one top twenty five win and it was Missouri bah bah blah, or one top ten win.

Not not yet, yeah, but if not.

Like one time, I'm looking at the schedule of where do we sit in Week one where we had South Carolina, Missouri, all these other teams were sitting in top fifteen or above, top twenty and above, and they played those teams when they were ranked in that position because at the time the whole world have viewed them as that way.

I personally think there needs to be more weight put on that.

Like you look at a South Carolina win.

Now, no disrespect JP, but it doesn't hold a whole lot of weight back then when it played.

When they played, it was a massive business.

Eleven South Carolina versus Vana Belt their first true test.

Are they really going to get it done?

Are they were really contenders?

In the SEC.

They won that game and was like, holy shit, Vanderbilt.

Man, look at them.

Now, South Carolina had the things that happened to them, injuries happened throughout the season and running back from Louisville.

But I look at how did everything start?

How did everybody kind of view these teams from a top twenty five standpoint?

And when they played?

When they played, did they have a number next to their name?

If they did, that counts for something extremely holistically.

I've always been a huge proponent of what you're saying, of defining the value of a game and a win or loss at the time.

It happened, because if injury go ahead.

But also, how can I how do I not know that the Vandy result started the precipitous decline of South Carolina season?

Like I can't prove that, but you can't prove it didn't happen.

Yeah, So I may be like I'm being punished my strength the schedule could be getting punished because I beat teams just like Oregon.

Oregon goes and beats Penn State.

Penn State falls off a cliff.

Well, Penn State's not falling off a cliff.

If the organ laws doesn't.

They're still a top twenty five roster.

Yes, it's evidenced of how they played against Indiana, but Oregan's getting punished because of what they did to Penn State.

So, like with exceptions, I'm always going to say there are exceptions to this rule with a few exceptions.

I've always been a fan of defining that.

And that does mean that you may play South Carolina in Week four and I may play them in Week eleven and we both beat them by the same score, but you get more credit for it than I do.

That may mean that.

I think that's okay.

It could mean that right, because things happen, things take place.

That's what makes football so amazing.

The thing that starts in week one is never the same in a week fourteen.

That's what makes it awesome.

I think we solved everything.

I think we saw ship.

We're just circles ty service.

I know we don't get to this game the last yek.

It's gonna be nuts.

We get the two G five scenario in I kind.

Of hope it happened.

A couple of seventeen plus point mad.

Yeah, at the end of the day, we're just gonna be mad.

We're just angry that these that these teams were arguing about, arguing for like just handle your business right, yes, when you're expected to handle your business.

Because if this happens, we have the G five teams in and the option for us to fly even with Josh and go to Oregon versus some G five team just to watch Orgon mop them.

I'm gonna be sitting in our room being like, guys, we gotta go to Oregon to watch this blood bath.

Did what they land and have a little good.

Time and just sip some wine probably in the second half.

Yeah, probably leave, yeah at halftime.

But that was great, great playoff game.

You're really trending right now towards having two first round games.

Really, if you think about it, Yeah, look at all the projections you've got to You got like Notre Dame, Texas A and M.

You've got Oklahoma Obama, and then you've got two games where the spread will be close to three touches ounce, which is insane.

Yeah, State from last year teams at home last years before we getting his board and then we'll go quickly.

But Penn State coaching search, are we still am I still winning on a call?

But hey, in Congress to b YU, I know we're keeping their boy there.

Yeah sure, I mean that's big for by keeping their guys.

Just from my understanding of the timeline and everything else, shot out Liam Blumtman.

I was following him very closely.

Yeah, dude, he seemed like a little bit.

It seemed like it was right there.

They were at the goal line with getting him to Penn State, and then b YU gets their boy.

They pushed the team meeting.

They're all at his house, they're all talking into it.

Money's coming elsewhere from these companies.

What is it?

Crumble Yes, Crumble Cookies, Crumble Cookies, Trumble Cookies, Crumble for b YU like big dogs.

Coming in the room with the blessing of the church, coming in the room, throwing.

Out massive contracts, throws up with the blessing, with the blessing of the He went, Crumble Cookies went more American Prime Evil on Penn State, yea than American Prime Evil itself.

If you watch American Prime Evil and then you look at Crumble Cookies, you're gonna be like, that's not.

The modern day version.

Yeah, they're scalped.

They scalped Penn State.

Spoiler alert, but yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you have any clue what's going on with Penn State?

They don't.

How could I they don't.

I've spoken my piece on Matt Campbell.

Apparently they're not targeting him, but then again, they don't know who they are targeting.

So it was Brian Harline at one point in time, but which UCF.

Now it's a real dereliction of duty I think by the athletic director up there.

I don't know if he's gonna have his job much longer.

And you guys have never heard me call for someone's job, because I don't really do that.

But I don't know how like, this is a really it's not an elite job.

It's not Michigan, it's not Ohio State, it's not Oregon.

But dude, this is still the Penn State job.

You can't convince me that this thing's been turned down this much just because the job's not good.

It's because of who's running the coaching search.

And if you can't run a successful football coaching search, Number one, you don't deserve your job as an ad.

Number two, don't fire your playoff caliber coach before you have a pretty good idea of who you could go get to replace him.

So to answer your question, yeah, keep your phone close, the call could come.

You've got experience in the big ten.

I do you know what?

I would you know several of them immediately and know why ill being Knitney aligned to my boy Mitch.

No, you're out.

I'm out no amount of money.

And then that story hasn't been told publicly.

Yep, I have the Penn State job.

I haven't heard anything from my sources of what's going on or if my source even has a job anymore.

Low though, Mitch, fuck your source, right?

Hey?

Is everything good up north?

I really don't know.

At this point, me saying anything would just be feeding into Twitter sphere.

There's allegations, there's allegedlies, a lot of allegedlies being thrown around in the Michigan world.

Right now, it's more exciting to look at and just if you just separate, If I separate myself from being an alumni someone that played there, and I can just sit back and kind of wash the chaos and the shoes that you kind of do, that's where I find more enjoyment.

If I go, I'm like, this does not seem It seems more scary than anything else.

Yeah, scary world.

We'll see.

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Back to this episode, we'll see what happens, Shollie.

Yeah, let's let's dive in.

Let's dive in North Texas TU Lane Big time matchup winners going to the college football play oh two lane underdogs, North Texas favored by two and a half.

The over under on this game sixty six and a half points.

Both coaches are gone.

Both coaches are gone, by the way, I mean they're leaving.

They're coaching the game.

Both coaches have taken new jobs.

But who's bought in more.

I'll tell you what.

When I went after the G five thing.

I had two text messages about it from people that went to G five schools.

Cody January and Sean January both went to high school with them.

They went to North Texas Januaries January the January brothers.

By the way, Sean January.

Back in the day, that two thousand and six state championship team from Catch Shadows over one hundred tackles, middle linebacker, just a salty white boy, paper bones though, could never stay healthy anyway.

They text me and they're like, how could you come at our team like da?

And I said, hey, brother, this is just the reality.

So for that reason, I'll be taking North Texas.

It just seems like they got more heart, I got more hate from them all.

Take them because, to be honest, I don't give a shit about this game.

I will not turn this game.

One I will.

I probably won't even type in my Safari bar North Texas first two lane to see the score pop up.

I'll find out on the show next week.

You can find out the the show on Sunday.

When I see selection Sunday and one, I'll like, oh.

Shit, oh they won.

North Texas won?

Oh too, lame one.

That's that is how my life in this game is going to go sixty six.

Take the over?

Yeah, fucking do you don't take the over?

These guys have bad defenses.

The strategy, that's the strategy.

Six and a half.

Yeah, I'll take the winners.

Winners over here, take the over, give me the over.

And that's the kind of stuff you're hetting on the show, the hard hitting facts the way.

I don't fucking care about this game at all, so.

It doesn't leave us.

I know, uh, I know Klump was excited about this when he posted the games.

He's like, we finally get to talk about Drew mess to Maker.

Drew mess to Maker better those owlers?

Yeah, better than Zolar.

You know, you know Will didn't care too much.

He's looking at his phone about it.

Thirty yards.

Receptions, never started a game at quarterback in high school.

Just oh yeah, yeah, I remember that, dude.

He was not a starting quarterback on his hig school football team, and now he is one of And now.

He's a freshman starting quarterback for North Texas.

He's a red shirt freshman.

Yes, that's amazing.

I think he played the game last year.

I think is how that worked?

Because Cuba five baby, Yeah, I remember this.

G five baby, anything I saw from and I so Drew.

Drew Mestamaker didn't play quarterback at all in high school.

He was a backup.

And now he's a starting quarterback of red shirt freshman.

He's a freshman for North Texas.

And so I'm saying, that's G five baby, he's been slinging the rock.

I'm saying, good for him.

That's pretty crazy.

He didn't play quarterback in high school, didn't quarterback.

Shows up to North Texas and they're like, hey, redcher for you, we don't.

This is Chad Powers.

We don't got a quarterback.

We need a guy.

And he's just like I can throw it a little bit like you.

He is Chad Powers.

This guy is Chad Powers.

Means I could have played quarterback at a powerfil or a group of five school.

You know your problem, mis Mitch.

You matured too late.

Wow, I feel it.

No, No, And that's not even like if you missed your money if you were you now at like seventeen eighteen.

Buddy, you're G five.

Yeah, you're G five, and you're mad at me watching the long room like this motherfucker don't respect us.

And you're right, Yeah, you're right in destigative, imaginative thought process.

You are correct.

Give me the over.

Give me the over.

I won't go to Safari to type in the search, broam.

Just click on the ESPN app and just see what scores are for the game.

And if I even see too little, I'll go on the ESPN.

I do.

Yeah, I have ESPN to Lane Alabama, Georgia.

Oh shit, especially oh hang on twenty twenty five.

That's happened so many times to me.

Did me and technology huh break this one down for us?

Brother, don't don't break it down.

I really did pull in there.

There's spend more time talking about the Penn State coaching sir.

Yeah, we're good.

So this is gonna be really quick.

Time me twenty seconds.

I pulled in this morning and thought to myself, both coaches are on the way out.

I think that disproportionately impects defensive staffs, and therefore I don't think there's a total high enough where I wouldn't take the over.

And I did not know that you guys were going with the over.

But I will take the over with you.

So it's an overtrain.

I have a live show Friday night in the middle of this game.

There's zero chance I can watch it either, so I'll just get half to you didn't have a lot.

You would watch it?

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, twenty.

One seconds, so that went over.

Therefore the total goes over.

There we go.

Yeah yeah.

Also speaking of driving into places, thoughts and prayers with Kathleen onward.

Duke Virginia Virginia favorite in this game by three and a half points.

There's Duke again, just keeping the line closed like they have all year long year.

The over runner on this game fifty seven and a half the ac CE Championship whish.

We've already talked about that Power four power not powerful is a power three and they're kind of pottering in the distance.

Power two and a half.

Yeah, yeah, you know this game happened.

This This game was a blowout already, Like a few weeks ago, Virginia played Duke Virginia was Virginia lost the turnover battle and still blew them out.

The fact that this number is what it is blows my mind.

Then I pull up the model the other day and the model has Duke winning the game outright, and I don't I don't get, I don't know, I don't know I don't know, but I'm taking Duke to win the game.

So the acc doomsday scenario not only is it me sort of wish casting, the model backs me up on this as Duke winning outright?

Is it three and a half?

Yes, ye and a half.

You know I'm taking money line taking Duke.

Give me your money line.

I'm taking you do plus points, but I will take Duke to win the game out right as well.

I have I'll do money line, give me Duke money line on this show.

I've brought up Duke on two sipar occasions.

They were favored against Illinois and one other time as my I took Illinois is my dog and in Georgia tech.

I was right both of those times spending against Duke.

This is my first time betting for Duke.

I'm thinking Duke plus the points.

Hopefully sprinkle that money line though, But for the sake of the show and my standings and me being scared, I'll just take I'll just take Duke plus three and a half.

Hey, hard hitting ship on those first two games, boys, huh.

Hard to beat a team twice?

Hard to beat a team beating team twice.

Mike Alo Bultra right, superiors worth playing for.

We've been doing this rock suit thing.

It started to be it started to be fun.

Now it's getting serious.

What's the record right now, Mitch or clump is it's eighty seven.

I'm leading eighty seven.

So this is an opportunity for me to get up to or worth even at.

Are you prepared?

Yeah, rock paper scissor shoot rock paper scissor shoot superiors worth playing for?

Good game game yep.

Back to the episode next Game.

American Primeval b Yu kept their coach versus Texas Tech, who want Josh paid to be the Commission of college football.

Texas Tech favored by a one hundred and twelve according to my sheet.

Do you guys have the same thing?

What?

Oh, it probably means twelve and a half.

No, favored by one hundred and twelve according to the sheet.

So Texas Tech favored by twelve and a half minus one twelvefof Yeah, twelve and a half?

Why you got the plus one?

Got you?

And then the total points in that game is forty nine and a half.

American Primeval.

It always comes back to that this team has been on our show more than I think any of us expected.

We are a BYU show.

We have become a BYU show.

Now I'm not going as far as crumble Cookie.

Yeah, we grossly mischaracterize everything about the program, everything about the culture, everything about the church.

But you know we are Yeah, we are.

Doing nothing but the blessing of the church.

Nasty work on that, and I'm going to continue to do it.

Jordan Guire, that high flying offense, that incredible defense, what is that?

Rodriguez the linebash Jacob.

Through pick last week.

Out of the Heisman race.

Yeah, I'm gonna take them.

I'll take them minus twelve and a half.

This is gonna be a three touchdown blowout when this is putting.

This is the before.

Like when I was at Michigan the first couple of years with Rich Rodriguez.

Every Friday night we do our team meetings, We have our meal, we have clam chadder to have this historic like famous claim CHATD that all the players will come back to get You can only get it when you're a player at the campus in then after that we would sit and watch a movie.

It'd be Gladiator, friend and I had like those types of things before this game.

Texas Tech is playing the entire series of American primeval and they win this game by twenty eight point or they're terrified and no, they don't even show up two options.

I'm gonna take the one where they bow up.

B y, you got a better shot this time we're on could we see some more chaos?

Model loves Brigham Young.

I have no idea why.

I have no idea why.

Where's the model at on BYU?

It has Texas Tech winning by eight like it thinks it's a huge cover probability edge for Brigham Young.

This is one that you look at and you're like, oh, I bet this game.

I wouldn't.

Oh don't.

I don't agree with the model.

That means I just don't bet it.

Okay, a swing like that that's like raw men noudle express.

Yeah, it would be how do you flip?

So Brigham Young's got to flip something that happened the first time around.

They had sixty rushing yards total.

First time around, they were minus three turnovers.

Brigham Young's got to run the ball.

They got to win turnover battle.

That's how they've done it all year.

I do think they're playing their best ball.

Like I really really respect what they did to Utah, but what they did to Cincinnati was more impressive.

What they did to TCU at home, to me was more impressive.

And they just got incredible news.

They sure did reaction the coaches stay in.

So you got to ride that revenge wave.

You got to ride the our coaches staying wave.

Boys, we win, we're in.

You can't.

So these are the paper poppers.

Texas Tech in the first half their top three points per game first half, top two pass yards per game first half number one, and explosive passes in the first half.

They did that against them last time too.

But the thing about it is for everyone who tries to find a way for Brigham Young to win this game, like, oh man, if they just even up the turnover battle, Texas Tech saddle for five field in this thing too.

Three of them were inside the red zone.

So I look at twenty nine to seven the first time around.

I was at that game, just not a close game, not really a competitive game.

But I was thinking to myself leaving this actually could have been so much worse.

So for every like progression to the mean that you expect from Brigham Young, there's also still a little catapult opportunity for Texas Tech to play their best ball.

They didn't even play their best ball that day.

I have I don't.

I don't know what the model scene.

So I'm gonna take Texas Tech.

I'll actually lay the points with.

The blessing of the church.

I'm gonna go bey wow.

Really, Yes, he hasn't seen American Parmy.

No he hasn't.

No, I haven't seen an Animal House either.

That, by the way, moderious problem for the whole entire thing.

We should become a very serious issue.

Yeah.

Yeah, we did a thing.

I do we allowed to say what.

It was a Fande commercial.

They're updating the commercial with Fando.

We got some stuff yesterday in the shop, production set up everything.

Yeah.

Here it always comes back to right.

And we were doing a bit and Will had to wear a shirt that said college football, right or playoff.

Football or something like that.

And it was a scene from Blueto an Animal House of him trying to charge up the boys to take down the school after they get expelled, and the directors trying to explain to him, and had I got to stop the director.

I'm like, hey, Will, do you know what he's trying to reference right now?

And he just has the same look he has in his face right here, but his mouth you know, that shirt represents a big state, and I go, guys, he hasn't seen Animal House.

The whole production crew stops in their tracks, mouths wide open.

The director goes and types in YouTube the scene so Will can watch it to get some sort of inspiration understand kind of what we're doing this commercial.

Goes, he goes, have you looked at the script at all?

I was like no.

He's like, all right, this this shouldn't be too bad.

And then they explain the whole blue like the blueto Animal House, the scene of everything, and I'm kind of just staying there.

Yeah, was it over when the Germans bomb Pearl Harbord that scene right there, and I.

Kind of just go, yeah, yeah, I got it.

Goes a joke about that is x Y and yeah, yeah the joke, but yeah, Japan the joke.

So they said, I'm kind of just standing there.

Oh yeah, so this ain't Penn State.

Yeah.

So we had to sit there for through a six minute YouTube video of all of us kind of just waiting and looking at our phones awkwardly while Will watching a YouTube video for him to get the premise of what this commercial is going to be and then hey, you fucking killed dude.

I thought you were phenomenal to see.

Yeah, he had to be Bluto and that was a lot of dialogue for him.

Can I be honest, I have absolutely no clue what we want you.

I've seen it.

I have no idea where we were before that came up about.

With the Blessing of the Church.

I'm going to b y you plus twelve.

And yeah, the house is in Eugen I got a thing.

Yeah, tell him about that one.

That's what I'm saying.

It always comes back to Animal House.

We're out there at Oregon and Taylor's like, oh, this is the place is where were shot.

He's like, well, do you know what we're talking about?

I was like, no, it's like Animal House.

Oh this scene was here.

Will do you know what I'm talking about?

No?

No, And I made Will me JP and Garrett.

We had maybe the best walk of all time.

Huh, Like got around those trees that was incredible.

We're going this walk.

Will meets up with us and I essentially make all of us walk to this area where a scene was shot an Animal House on the steps A boys look at it.

Garrett's in awe.

He's obviously moved.

JP's and allward.

It's like they're taking photh this is awesome, And I'm like, will you get it?

He's like where we are we need somebody.

It takes youhe the grand can and them just being like, oh, it's a whole and you're like, all right, it's supposed to beautiful.

Is this the business school?

Right?

Yeah?

And then obviously the A fraternity They no clue where we were before that, Yeah, no idea how we got there either.

What's the chaos that like that would happen if by you were to win this game?

Boh, don't say that it'd be bad.

This is Notre Dame's worst nightmare.

Both, like pretty much everybody in the bub boy, Like, I.

Know, we talked about Miami Notre Dame earlier today, but even if Miami doesn't jump Notre Dame, we are sitting less than twenty four hours removed from the committee, bumping Alabama up above Notre Dame.

To me, that signifies Bama's not dropping no matter what happens Saturday, nor should they so Notre Dame sitting there at number ten if Brigham Young loses, like they're you know, allegedly supposed to do, and Miami doesn't jump Notre Dame.

Like Notre Dame's good, they're in.

But if Brigham Young wins, they're not taking Texas Tech out.

So two G fives and two Big twelves would be in at that point.

Well, the two G fives is contingent on the acc dooms Day, don't concern yourself with the G five.

The point is, if Brigham Young wins this thing, you got to find spots that you didn't think you needed to find.

And then you look at who's number ten right now because that's the cut line and it's Notre Dame, and they probably drop out.

Like this thing comes down to in that scenario, bringing young Notre Dame.

It's not bringing young Alabama.

It never was going to be.

It's bringing young Notre Dame.

I have enough respect for the Big twelve this year that I wouldn't I wouldn't see it as we got two G five and two Big twelve.

You would see it as two G five Texas Tech and a Big twelve.

It's probably what you would see.

Yeah, that's what I would see.

Yeah, Yeah, Texas Text like another pendent they've wor sitened there again, the ACC they just they gotta.

They gotta, they gotta just cut the cord.

Man.

Wow, they don't want they exist this year.

No, no, no, no, not don't exist.

But again it's like this conference.

They and you compare them against who you would relate them to.

Is the Big twelve against Big twelve is six and one against the ACC this year.

So ACC is closer than G five than they are the Big twelve.

In my do you're not wrong about that, You're not wrong about that.

And we all know about my respect level for the G five.

So and I agree with you on the a SEC comment.

So they're not far off.

Yeah in my respect.

Mean if that means anything to the Atlantic Coast Conference?

Uh, next game, number three Georgia versus number nine Alabama SEC Championship, real football, Yeah, real, we think So do we get to talk about I don't know if we can talk about it.

Hold on, let me just real quick.

George is favored by two and a half total points, the game is forty seven a half.

Go ahead and ask that question again.

Do we get to talk about what we potentially what we are doing, what we are doing for this game?

And I'm gonna Hey, we're gonna default to the to the should we call?

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Yeah, look, we teased it.

If we have to edit out, we'll let it out.

But the Boys we get to cover an altcast for the SEC Championship this weekend on ESPN.

Yes too, Yep, it'll be us three.

Harry Douglas teammate of ours.

Were you on the team with him?

I was not on the team.

No, he guys asked cut before then.

But hey, hell of a teammate, Hell a lot of energy.

Guy's incredible.

Yeah, just a wild straight with you.

I like to thank Harry and I have their relationship, motherfucker.

Yeah, he's gonna laugh and giggle about that and have something for me to He played nine or ten years.

Oh dude, he was played Atlanta for a very long time, came over.

Tarry Robiski was in Atlanta.

He became the OC for attency times and he's like, I mean my guy Harry Douglas and brought him over and legit when I was singing on our call earlier during offensive staff meetings and players Harry Douglas and Tarry Robiski would just be in the kitchen, who's our OC and our wide receiver and they just be watching get up, Get up?

Or yeah, like good morning football, and like joking about something and we got it, We got it, we got it.

Yeah.

Question ahead, because this is really big news that you just dropped.

This is massive news.

You're telling me that while the main broadcast is going on on ABC, we're going to have our own alt cast broadcast where the four of us are on the field at the SEC Championship game, calling the action between Georgia and Alabama, two teams that have won ten out of the last eleven SEC Championships, playoff spots on the line, SEC title on the line, first round by on the line, and us with Mike's in our hands.

On the sideline that's happy to see the action, getting the field of vibe.

Waking down ball, see what's going on the sidelines, injuries, fights, arguments, the whole thing.

We get to talk about it all.

On some play by play from our boy Josh Paid, the future Commissioner of College Football.

Oh, here we go?

Is this it?

My foster?

Telo one?

How are you.

Tell them?

On?

Fantastic?

All right, we are shooting the locker room right now.

I have a mic on.

We can cut it, but I'm with Will Compton and Josh Pay and we just announced that we're doing the simulcast on ESPN two.

Is that okay?

Okay, yeah, no, we're good.

We can definitely say we're good to go.

We're good to go.

We've gotten we've gotten permission and we haven't asked had to ask for forgiveness.

So that's fantastic.

All right, fos, I'll talk to you later.

Appreciate you.

But all right, we're doing the thing.

Who are you doing it with ESPN two.

It'll be me and Will Compton, Josh Paying, Harry Douglas.

Will didn't pay.

It was har he got cut.

Hey.

That is huge.

It's massive, big deal.

I mean, boys, the fact that we get to be on the field, the sec Championship, that big of a game like US where it was kind of going fan of college football?

Were he who's the hater?

Not fun on Twitter?

And not yeah yeah the cat we had to delete.

He's gonna be punching air.

He'll know.

Do you think the guy who had deleted his own Twitter because of what you two did to him, he's gonna find out or he's just giving up.

I think I think it's really safe to say he's tuning into Chris Faller and Kirkirk Street.

I think it's really safe to say he's checking out the ABC feed.

I see him with basic cable, and I see him thumbing through an old school with the clicker, and then it's Pops ESPN two and it's your face and it's both of you, like cut screen three pieces and the game's going in the middle and you two are talking and he just sees it for a moment and his heart rate goes to one twenty.

Just he's Jesse breaking bad.

He's he can't keep getting away with this, He screams at the air.

Yeah yeah yeah.

Hate it for him, Love it for us though, Love it for the audience.

You want to tune in and watch, watch us cover a game, the SEC Championship from a different perspective, our very first time doing it.

Who knows how it's gonna go.

I'm sure it'll be a little bumpy at times, no doubt, but this crew will figure it out.

Right, Well, phone won't break.

Call on the game gonna be great.

Yeah, we can know.

We're trying to We're trying to figure out what the wardrobe is gonna be.

I asked that question in the production call.

They're like, you can wear whatever you want.

Because you know my my move's gonna be probably the same jeans I'm wearing right now on a black T shirt.

If they're if we don't decide anything, but if we want to go wranglers with some sort of SEC get up in a cowboy hat, which I know you hate hats.

Yeah.

Well, the other thing to think about is piction.

I'm trying to picture awesome.

I like to fix your hand with a flannel T shirt to button down.

Here.

You can picture me however you want.

This is an indoors game, like we're indoors right now.

It is early December, it is cold.

You wear the T shirt and you gotta yeah, and buddy, is it not freezing in here.

When we started doing the show in week one in late August, it was rough, it was it was right exactly, and now we're leaning forward.

I know we should have a little fire next time.

Can we build a fire?

Why not call Mike, Mike, we can get a fire going.

Yeah, but let's pick this SEC championship and see where O bias lies.

Oh yeah, yeah, ye, Garrett, was you gad to speak?

Alabama's one one what Jordan's one and seven?

Kirby is one and seven.

Kirby is one and seven against Alabama.

Ten of the last eleven SC champions.

And will be eleven of the last twelve.

Because Math and both these teams are in.

It's fair enough.

Uh yeah, another big game for the Tide earned our spot here.

It's a place we've been before, obviously.

As you guys just said, my biggest thing with this weekend is that you guys are going to watch the Tide in the SEC and I'm not so that hurts, but I'm gonna find my own way there so I will see you guys there.

Roll timee.

So Garrett just took an opportunity to get the mic to kind of be like you guys aren't taking it.

Yeah, that's exactly what that was.

Do we do we take there?

I think we've gotta see what we can do at least give them, have to make that effort.

We talked about it yesterday.

I thought that was a no brainer.

Yeah, we got to have confirmation, no doubt.

And I'm bad about that.

Is we're gonna be able to pull off two in a row here on Georgia watching Bama.

They've had a they've went through a big time schedule, They've earned the right to be here.

They're they're gonna stay in the College Wall playoff unless in some world it's like fifty five to seven and they just get blown out, and then you you kind of have to consider, hey, do is Bama fall the playoff after that ass beating?

I see them getting in the playoff about ninety nine percent of the time.

But they've kind of like limped their way to this finish line the way they've they've been winning their games, but they haven't been winning in a fashions where you kind of see ty Simpson.

It's been high and tight.

But again, the story with ty Simpson is you're just barely missing on those deep balls.

Is that gonna continue.

Are they gonna beat Georgia for a second time?

I rowe Georgia team that's been playing spicy as of late, that's been putting the foot on the gas and looking like a team that's can be in my opinion of the team that would compete with Ohio Sate for a national championship.

Does Bama beat him twice?

It's gonna be hard to beat to beat Georgia twice.

So progression regression to the mean in a rematch matters a lot.

Bama thirteen of nineteen on third down first time they played in Athens, Georgia was like two of eight.

Both of those teams are top thirty on third down.

Just in general, Bam a huge edge that day.

These are two huge like premier coaching staffs.

Bama pretty huge edge that day.

Georgia's pass rush did not get to Ty Simpson the entire night, zero sacks, and not only that didn't really even affect him all that much.

Havoc great been spiking for Georgia these last few weeks is that there Saturday.

The two biggest game breaking opportunities, one for both teams is the wide receiver group for Alabama's Jeremy Bernard, it's Isaiah Horton at seventeen.

Lots Ofier Brooks has come on.

As of late, Ryan Williams has been a ghost and can't really get a straight answer about where he's been.

The deep ball thing is huge, like they barely miss him if they hit him.

That fundamentally changes things for Alabama.

They let Auburn break two huge explosive yards after catch plays on them last week.

Zachariah Branch is more explosive than any player Auburn has, so that's where it could break for Georgia.

I also remember Bama's secondary sort of throttling down Georgia a little bit.

Georgia ran it for over two hundred and I expect him to have a fair amount of success running the ball again.

But Georgia's center is probably out for this game.

Both teams badly banged up.

But Georgia's center being at how does it affect snaps?

How does it affect run fits, flow in the run game, collapse in the pocket.

Tim Keenan was injured and just coming back for this Georgia game the first time around, playing like a stud now and so not only is he like a two gap or type, but he can also really collapse the pocket gives him a decent interior pass rush against the red shirt freshman center.

The injury situation is probably gonna matter as much in this game as any championship game we see Saturday.

I am fundamentally of the opinion that it's extremely hard to beat a team twice in the same year, especially when that team is staffed and personneled like Georgia's.

The model likes Georgia.

I have literally no lean in the game.

So just because of the computer, I'll lean Georgia.

It's two and a half?

Right, is it still two and a half?

All right, I'll lay those points.

No confidence in that picked up.

Gonna be a great game.

Over under forty seven and a half.

Again, again, we're gonna be We're gonna be covering the well in the game.

I was having the same thought when he was breaking it down.

I was like, do we even picket picketting?

Well?

We want to do the Herb Street Just do we want to stay completely biased in this entire thing?

Yeah?

Over forty seven and a half.

It's like when these two teams play unbiased.

When these two teams play, I expect a physical football game.

For whatever reason, when these two unifl out there, it's gonna be the SEC championship.

I think it's gonna be two physical teams going at it.

I like the over in this game.

If I had to pick and see how this game is going to unfold, I picture the state of Georgia, everybody at home just barking at the TV because George is gonna pull off a win.

I see the.

Georgia thing too.

I'm gonna take the under do it the over over.

I'm gonna take the over as well.

Excitement.

Everyone loves rooting for points in these games.

Who wants the excited, high flying I see Alabama through the air, maybe meeting a couple of those connections that you're talking about that haven't happened as a recent Georgia.

On the other hand, I see them running the ball very effectively, especially going to Stockton.

Having an extra blocker in there, getting that done redshirt freshman center is a bit of alarming.

But I like Georgia getting themselves in thirty manageables.

Overall, I see a lot of points having this game.

I'm gonna to be over as well.

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Ohio state favorite in this game by four and a half points.

The over under on this game is forty seven and a half.

You have four and a half is light.

It's very light.

It's extremely impressive that on a neutral field anyone can be within five points, just point spread wise of Ohio State, but especially especially a non traditional, non top ten recruiting type team like Indiana, Like that's a such a monumental statement before the game kicks off.

Ryan Day, best friend of yours now shines in these moments, but so does Kurt Signetti.

We saw him go on the road to Oregon earlier this year.

Like that game changed things in my mind because last year Signetti and Indiana went to Ohio State, they got blown out, and they went in the playoff and they got beat by Notre Dame, and it kind of fulfilled a lot of the preconceived ideas that they're mainly a product of an inferior schedule whatever.

This year they look way different to me.

I think they're a legitimate top five team.

But you don't have to wonder.

They went to Oregon and owned Oregon and then they've shined the rest of the way.

So if they can control somewhat the explosivity of Ohio State's offense, they got a shot to win the game.

They do have to have a little bit more balance.

It'll easily be the most balanced offense, like the most toolbox y kind of offense that Ohio State's seen so far this year.

Now to mean Ohio State's incapable of stopping them, it just means it's a different test for Ohio State.

But so much can go right for them.

They can control tempo, they can be converting third downs, they could be tilting field position in their favor.

If you're just hitting Jeremiah Smith for eighty, if you're hitting Carnel Tate for sixty eight, doesn't matter because those explosives, you could win time of possession two to one.

You can win twice as many plays as Ohio State.

It doesn't matter.

It just means they're scoring quick.

So you got to control that to have a shot.

It's a real big test of Will's game because both of them have looked pretty unstoppable.

It's the beauty of conference championship Saturday.

I just ride with Ohio State in these kind of moments until further notice.

As we documented last Saturday morning, very late in the morning.

Yeah, oh we're gonna bring that up.

Yeah, I gotta ride with Ohio State in later points.

I'm taking Ohio State minus four at two.

I just, dude, I think this teeth, this defense is so good and even if even in Indiana being able to move the ball, they'll be able to I'm excited to watch Fernano Mendoza because he's kind of been a Heisman spotlight right here, like right now.

I feel like Diego Pavia, in my opinion, is the front runner of the guy who should be the Heisman winner this year.

But Fernana Mendoza is going to be in a huge moment this weekend against the best defense in the country in Ohio State.

I'm excited to see if they'll be able to turn three into seven because I just believe in Oha State's defense so much.

They're savvy, Patricia, He's got all those guys, all these aliens playing with the higher IQ.

They're very situationally aware.

They're one of the best in the red zone at keeping teams out of the end zone.

I just I think Ohio State has too much.

I think they'll be able to score, they'll be able to get seven compared to Indiana, who will be able to move the ball at times, but I think they'll have to settle for three a lot so I'm taking Ohio State my sport.

Not a lot of mobility in Fernanda.

Mendoza's game has to win it with his arm.

He threw for two fifteen against Oregon, two thirty three against Iowa.

I'm of the opinion he has to do better than that to beat Ohio State.

Are you in agreement with them?

Yes?

And if he does, he probably wins the Heisman.

If he's thrown for what three hundred and gets what two touchdowns, zero interceptions?

I think that would be Yeah, I think that would be enough.

I know who my Heisman winner is and he's out of the playoffs detained.

Yep, yeah, absolutely, no, really, no, that's good.

Listen, the thing that mat Patrici is the biggest game changer that Ohio States had.

Obviously, the decoordinator goes to Penn State.

Bad, bad move by him, Brian Harlane.

He gets elevated as the OC.

But the thing that makes Matatrix is so difficult.

He obviously has a lot of talent on the field.

Every game, he has a roll index of different defenses and different coverages that he can give you that it's gonna take Indiana a quarter two quarters to really figure out they're doing, and then by that time it's halftime adjustments.

So the thing you might have figured out now that mat Patricia comes out in the second half with a completely different look in disguise of what's going on, so he has the ability to keep an offense in a blender for all four quarters.

I had to lose a friend this weekend.

I had to watch my team, who's won foreign four in a row, get brutally demolished and a completely uncompetitive game.

I had to watch kid that we spend ten million dollars getting throwed the ball five times in the first half.

Would have been a different game if we maybe threw a little bit.

I don't know.

I'm not here to say, but that defense is pretty incredibly impressive.

Julian saying he's throwing routes on air and it's not his fault.

He is he's got the two best wide receivers and all of course, well, well, maybe Jeremiah Smith is the best player in all of college football.

I spent all last year after Michigan had the biggest upset in Columbus, winning thirteen to ten.

I spent every single game of the playoffs saying that this is when Ohio State falls, they're not going to get it.

And they just went on a tear.

And at this point, man, they're sixteen to zero since the last time they played.

When they play Michigan and Columbus, I'll think Ohio State minus four and a half.

And not to mention, you got to see him in a little bit of adversity for a minute.

Literally really is saying coming out that first year, he's throwing a pick, throwing a bad pick.

We've been bouncing back.

Ohio State spent more time down in the Michigan Ohio State game than they did the entire football season, which is just insane.

I think they have spent one minute being down the entire year before that Michigan game.

Michigan drives the field, does really good running the ball, kicks three, we get an interception on the first throw of the game.

Ryan Day said in our show, I'm thinking it, we're about to do this shit again, holding for three.

It's you know, after that, it's over.

Yeah, And again just talking more about coach Patricia.

We've played against it, Matt Patricia defense.

Where we've been sitting in the that we've sat in there with variable, we sat in there with any any time you're listening to a coach speak from an offensive perspective, going against a Matt Patricia defense, it's always they take away your best weapon, like your best tools.

That's what they focus on defensively because to your appointment, those and not being very mobile in the pocket.

Front seven is always gonna think we have to stop the run in every game that happens, right, So when you're able to dial things in on third down and play with that level of viq that coach Patricia is going to have that defense ready for.

That to me is where they're able to squeeze Indiana.

A lot of those conversations, see they take place when you're playing against Patricia when he was at the Patriots.

Is if you're an offensive meeting Derson there going hey, this is kind of every defense that they've run this year based on our skill set, this is what we think we're gonna have to run, but we won't know until the game starts of what they're coming out.

After the first series, we can kind of make adjustments from there, but expect these three or four kind of defensive schemes that Matt Patrich has run in the past to kind of stop our bread and butter is what we're able to do.

And that's where you put Indiana in a massive deficit because they have to wait till after the game starts to figure out what their game plan is.

And that's what put its Ohio State.

Right, Like, if somebody's highly targeted on third gun, you're going to assume Matt Paturs is going to take this away.

So how are we going to win on the other side in this situation?

And then there's four d chests where he now he doesn't take that away, and he's messed up your entire game plan.

So it's better just kind of a wait and see moment for them in Indianapolis, Like, hey, we got to find out what they're doing and then adjust from there.

And that takes a lot for Kirksinetti and his staff to kind of decipher and figure out from the get go.

Yeah, Ohio State, man, those sons of bitches.

Good for them, isn't the dude?

The only thing that has changed for me is I I truly respect Ryan Day.

You lost me as a friend and gained Ryan Day.

We're friends.

You said you loved that guy.

No, it was sea bass and dumb and dumber.

He walks up to your table.

You threw the salt shaker at him, and then he called you out and he hawked on your burger and you caved.

I watched that.

That's fucking bullshit.

I watched that.

That's a bullshit.

No, here's what happened, dude, I said all these crazy things.

Yep.

And Ryan Day who denied us, Ohio State denied us?

What was it Sunday?

There's no time for Ryan Day to make it on Busting with the Boys.

Ryan Day also has issues with Pat McAfee.

Allegedly, Pat was very vocal about that.

Ryan Day in the middle season goes on Pat McAfee show, Why fucking victory lapse?

So what did he do?

When I wants to take a piss?

And Ryan Nolan came up and said, hey, will Ryan Day twenty minutes at eleven thirty?

Can you do that?

And go thumbs up?

It's like, yeah, he's taking a victory lap, and so what am I gonna do?

Double down?

Hey, you're still not a leader of many, even though you won a national championship and you just beat Michigan, who's beating you four years in a row.

I'm gonna find something to pull out of the ether.

No, dude, I hate Ohio State, but my god, he's proved me wrong and every since everything I've said.

He was born on third base, but he's elevated his team.

He he's still home.

He is.

He walked into an uber Michigan the bake House in front of one hundred and fifteen thousand people and smiled as he walked down the tunnel and then beat our ass.

So what can you say?

And other than other than you had to win with humility and lose with humility.

Hey, coach day, I said a lot of bad things about you.

You shut my ass up.

Congratulations.

When you guys are on the bar, we're not friends though, who Yeah, we're not friends.

Yeah.

But when you guys are on the bus end of the show, No friend of the show you are.

I don't have his number.

Wow.

When you guys are on the bus, you know, the viewers at home don't know that when you're constantly looking up it's because you're looking at a monitor.

They think you were just too scared to make eye contact with him.

When people were staying that in the comments.

You're a comment reader.

I did not know that and I'm glad you made that clear because I'm looking up and I just his fucking smirk a Taylor, I appreciate you saying all those times, and it's just like you motherfucker.

And he's got me, dude, he I'm fucking I'm in the cave, I got my My arm's chained up, and he's just gotten He's finally got already got blood.

In every James Bond movie, he finds a way to get out.

I'm defeated.

You got my ass till next year.

He basically said, we're good Man threw a rag at you.

Clean yourself, phone, clean yourself up.

I just I just got myself.

I said, thank you, mister Day, doctor Day, good show.

Subscribe please Yeah, tune in ESPN two this Saturday.

Yeah, get back to a positive.

Kick off is at three pm.

Central.

Who knows man, Come hang out with us, big hey.

It's huge, massive, it's fun too be you guys done this before.

It's a lot of fun.

It's very nervous in the beginning when you getting it's a lot of.

Fun going for it.

What's up born for it?

If it were calling Wimbledon, it would be nervous.

This is the SEC Championship game.

This is this is Europe, this is that wheelhouse.

I can sit there a office, a line, doing pretty good.

Back to you onward.

Yeah, talk ball, I want to Yeah, tides the bark in all of it.

Yeah, we're gonna get it.

Any final thoughts, I'm ready to go.

I'm freezing.

I'm ready to go.

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