I'm Scott, I'm Russell, and I'm Leo.

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Russell, I believe you brought our guests this week.

Who'd you bring?

Yeah, TwoXChilly is one of the coolest TikTok Twitch streamers I've ever seen.

He's very innovative.

He's been playing Valorant, Eldering, all these games while walking basically miles on a treadmill.

You do like marathons almost, right?

Half marathons every time?

Half marathons every time.

I've only done one marathon so far.

Yep.

That's amazing.

walking a marathon.

- This is like almost every day, and I think, right?

- Almost every day.

- And I-- - Wow.

- And I've lost 90 pounds about since I started a year ago.

- Whoa!

- So, helping the kids going.

Ready to keep trying and doing my best, so.

- That's sick, welcome to Spitball.

- Thank you, glad to be here.

- Do you wanna plug your, let's let you plug your handles and stuff right now.

- Chilly, where do we find you?

How do I learn more about what it is that you do?

- Yes, so you can find me on TikTok, Twitch, Instagram.

All of my handles are TwoXChilly, that's T-double-O-X-Chilly, and that's cold Chilly, not the hot dog chili.

(laughing) - Too Chilly For You, love it.

Often we have a guest who comes on and says, "I don't know, we have two ideas, three ideas, four ideas.

"I don't really know which one I should pick." And when that happens, sometimes it makes sense for us to do a round of intermurals.

So that's how we're gonna get warmed up this week.

Who wants to kick us off with a half idea that they don't feel deserves a full pitch, but has some legs and someone can take it and run with it.

- I have a fantastic little intramural.

- Kick us on the back.

- I was watching my dad clean for my kid's birthday party and we use Clorox wipes, like I think it's a family.

We just use the Clorox wipes to clean in every surface of our home.

And I'm like, why?

- And what were you doing while he was cleaning your house for you?

- Let's just take care of the kids.

- Yeah.

- I think, I don't even know, but yeah.

(laughing) And I have a ton of those at home, but I started to think about this.

I'm like, it's basically a more expensive, it's a wet paper towel, more expensive paper towel.

Why don't I create a little paper towel holder, (laughing) add chemicals.

- A little Clorox basin.

(laughing) - Little, little, yeah.

It doesn't, but here's the thing.

I don't need it to be like the bleach one, right?

Like if I wanted to be more safe about it, like every Clorox wipe's like a disinfectant one.

I just want a set of wet wipes that aren't baby wipes, that are like cleaning wipes, to clean the surfaces of my home.

I don't know, I just, the whole spray bottle, paper towel, just seems like a two-step process that's been consolidated into one.

Why pay a premium for smaller sheets of paper?

It just is crazy to me.

I could just throw a paper towel roll into a plastic bin, Pour a little water, shake a roo, ready to go.

That's good.

Your product, the second you launch this, is gonna be at the end of the meme that's, mom, can I have Clorox wipes?

We've got Clorox wipes at home.

(laughing) And that's the name of my brand.

We have Clorox wipes at home.

(laughing) Do you guys use those wipes?

Like, do you know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, we get 'em at Costco, 'cause we get the multi-pack.

We go through 'em too.

I just pictured a Keurig solution for this, Russell.

like just a recurring like a ketchup packet or something full of the powdered chemical that you dump into your shaker thing so it has all the ready to go goodness of the disinfectant.

- I feel like that material is different.

Like, would paper towels just disintegrate?

I don't know.

- You can't flush paper towels, right?

Because it doesn't-- - That's true, that's true.

- I'm banking on that technology.

(laughing) My entire intramural idea.

- What about instead, if it's a thing where the dry paper towel stays outside of a box, and then as you pull it through, it goes through something that wets it on the way out.

That way you don't have it just sitting there dissolving overnight.

- That's actually so much better.

I guess like dip it.

Or I guess, no, it would be a special device that would run it and make it damp as it goes through.

- Yeah, I'm thinking like a laminator, right?

You'd like push the paper towel through it and it comes out the other end soaked.

- Honestly, not bad.

- That'd be cool.

- Not bad.

That actually might be more approachable than having a giant paper towel roll stuck in your underneath your sink.

You know, it could be a machine that's under a cabinet or something.

Yeah, there you go.

I guess you could do this for like other things, like what?

Like instead of a bidet papers and then you just put your paper towel, paper towel.

I've not used that.

Yeah.

I didn't want to go the toilet paper route because you had brought up this integration thing, but this is so interior mural.

But like, if I could get like, like, it'd be nice to have a wet toilet paper every once in a while when you're not in your bidet friendly home, you know, you're visiting family or friends and you're like, hmm, if only I had my...

So you just pull out your briefcase sized paper towel, wedding machine.

I don't know about this, man.

I think you had me until this pivot to the debate.

I just think there's other use cases, but I don't even know yet.

That's why it's still in intramurals.

Can't make it to pass varsity.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

This is a awful idea that I think a lot about.

I don't drink enough water.

I need to make myself drink enough water.

We've talked about this on the show before.

Yes, indeed.

Can we just make, like, nicotine infused water and just get addicted to drinking water?

(laughing) - Maybe not nicotine, like MSG or something, but just something infused in water that triggers something in my brain that's like, I need more water.

- You just reminded Chilly to take the first drink of the day, I think.

(laughing) - Thank you, I appreciate it.

I wouldn't need that reminder if I had the nicotine patches, I imagine.

- How do you make it addicting?

- I mean, you could do classic things like sugar or whatnot, but nicotine just seems to work.

- Cocaine?

- Cocaine, there it is.

- Go straight for the hard coke.

- Coca-Cola.

- Make water addicting, huh?

- I'm coming up empty.

I'm trying to like gamify this or something.

- We don't need to spit more.

- I feel like water's already been made addicting.

We're already past that point, other than drugs.

But it used to have cocaine in it too, right?

Isn't that what Coca-Cola used to be?

Maybe we just have to bring it back.

- Bring back our OG coke.

- Oh man, what if you could trick your body into thinking it's dehydrated, like needs to be, You know that thirst craving?

Like how can you create that craving?

- That dry throat.

- Maybe you put a dehumidifier or something.

- I was just gonna say, what if there's like a little fan that kicks on and blows on you?

You're like, ah, ugh.

- Ew, I need water.

- You're drying yourself out.

- Have a salt lick next to your desk.

- Yeah, I mean.

- This is getting pretty abstract.

- A pretzel, a bowl of pretzels, just.

- A bowl of pretzels solves this.

within arm's reach everywhere you go.

- Yeah, maybe that would be the idea.

Whenever something good happens, when you're gaming or you finish a task, you get rewarded like a pachinko slot, a pretzel pops out, you eat the pretzel, you get thirsty, you drink the water, you get rewarded with a treat, and now you're hydrated.

- Whoa, what if you like, yeah, gambling's an addiction, just make, in order to pull a slot machine.

- If you're a toggle or something, you've got your like work time tracker, every time that you've done out a work ticket or work order and your whatever job it is that you do, every time you complete that paragraph you're writing.

You get a treat.

Just a little treat.

I'll pull the slot machine, but oh, I gotta drink a shot of water before I pull it.

Oh.

What's something that you need to do, like every time you move your hand from the keyboard to the mouse, or every time you pick up your soldering iron, I don't know, whatever it is that you do for a living, you need to like have the water to unlock it like a person taking a breathalyzer to start their car.

That's it.

Yeah.

Just stand up.

Yeah.

I guess your, your USB port could disconnect while you're at work.

Your screen turns off.

Just blanks it until you disconnect the bottle.

There you go.

Lift up the water bottle, drink it.

Yeah.

We can just have like a 30 minute taser go off and synchronizes to the taser.

You're like, wait, I don't want to get shocked.

Or you could reset the clock.

And like every time you increase the timer over time, so that you start drinking 10 minute intervals, five minute intervals.

- We've gone from treat to punishment, I like it.

- I mean, we started with nicotine, so I think we're doing better.

Yeah, negative reinforcement, shoot, yeah.

- It's positive reinforcement 'cause we're adding a stimulus.

But it's a negative thing, yes, yes.

But I wanna jump in an idea that Russell said, the gambling slot idea, if you don't mind, if this is the intermural part of the show.

Gambling for kids, that sounds horrible.

It's already there You know how I said a pretzel coming out of the slot.

What if it's candy that's randomized and depending on what you pull You can get you know a nice healthy snack or something that might give you health issues later in life As I think I mean That's what those candies are now you put this coin in the slot you push it in and outcomes the candy Why not gamify it by having a crazy selection you just saw you should feed them dinner You're gonna eat your carrots and broccoli every time you pull the slot machine there is a chance Full of ice cream, yeah, they would be on the table the whole time.

It sounds unethical Kid I just I just one more carrot.

There's a chance Maybe that would give them the chance to eat more more vegetables if they know they have a chance a 10% chance of candy Yeah, maybe but then they get you know, 20 pieces of vegetables beforehand Is that is that truly a loss there?

They say that intermittent rewards are more powerful of a dopamine rush than like constant rewards So you could even use this for like we're doing potty training where you did your chores today You got one one pole on the the random snack machine Oh, I got a handful of peanuts.

Sorry better luck next time go do some more vacuuming son.

See if you get it again Yes, so much therapy It gamblings gonna be all over this and they don't even have to lobby to make this legal I Read a thing on hacker.

This is a pivot a bit.

We're gonna go away from child abuse now I read a thing on Hacker News that it's kind of hard to find a co-founder and find like partners for starting a business and find vendors that align with your interests and partnerships for companies and stuff.

So I want to pitch you Omegle business edition or chat roulette business edition you hop on Everyone who's going through there is maybe you have certain times where people are coordinating to go on But this is press the button speed dating boom boom boom right through but you have like You're doing what we're doing now, but with each other.

Here's our business.

Here's yours We're not really compatible or in the same industry or anything next boom three minutes.

You're out.

Okay, shoot Oh, I actually am in a manufacturing and you are a distributor.

Wow.

It's cool that we met I would love for like boom Kevin O'Leary or like Jeff Bezos It's just someone to just casually jump into one of these sessions and you just you're flicking through people and you get one of them I'm Mark Zuckerberg.

What?

Hello.

Would you like meta to buy my startup?

Mr.

Zuckerberg?

I mean that could be a good way for the big the bigger names in this industry to like Learn about what things are getting off the ground.

Maybe we could do this with spit ballers our listeners Come on board and their Oh Meggle Servers Russell, I don't know if we can handle that All right listeners all you got to do is just go to regular Omegle and start pitching the people who are on there already about your business.

We're going to take it over.

You might have to wait through some uncensored nudity, but on the other side...

You could find your next multi-million dollar idea.

It's like gambling.

Tell me about how you got acquired.

All right, Razzle, you're up first this week.

What do you got for us?

All right, so this is a weird one.

This almost is intramurals, but I'm good.

Just above the threshold.

I love it.

I am, you know, a secretly, let's say a pyro at times.

So I love making bonfires, love fires in general, fireworks, whatever.

This is not an admission of guilt.

But I thought I was, we were, yeah, I was doing a bonfire and I was like, "Man, you know what'd be fun right now?

"If there were just some like pyro toys "for a bonfire that are a little dangerous, "but kind of fun, but not too dangerous, okay?" Like, I mean, fireworks were basically shooting bombs into the air and they're exploding.

So let's start there and then come back to my pyro toys idea product line, you got the can melter as a pyro toy.

It's a little device, you stick it in the bottom and when the thing gets hot enough, you can throw cans in there, cool.

It may not be great, but it's a fricking pyro toy.

You're not expecting that.

- It made a forge.

- A little forge, right?

A paper incinerator, a chimney top, a fire tube.

Okay, you literally take a tube and you can move the fire around or something.

Like, you know how you can make the fire shoot out of a tube?

You could totally come up with a bunch of different tubes.

And-- You've been coming up with this idea since you were six years old, haven't you?

Call that one the Prometheus.

[LAUGHTER] We need some toy designers.

I'm going to find a co-founder that's a toy designer.

On Omegle Business Edition?

Exactly.

Great.

They sell, like, what, the color-changing things?

Yeah, like the powders you throw in.

Right.

Pretty cool.

The closest thing to a pyro toy you can find, but it's not dangerous, it's not fun enough.

You're not actually playing with the fire.

So I'm just trying to find, s'mores, marshmallows are a way that you do that, but they're all a little too, well PG, we'll say.

Come on, we don't want something that's a little more rated R, PG-13 when it comes to my bonfire experience.

You know, maybe we throw in a little isopropyl alcohol, right, make it a little fun with that.

- A small water balloon full of alcohol.

- Oh, jeez.

- I mean, every kid dangerously has played with a lighter and an ax can.

I'm saying there's probably a way to do that more safely with a Pyro toys.

That's kind of the idea is, there's a whole market out there for Pyro.

I think toys sounds weird though.

We need to make it more like adults.

- Pyro gadgets.

- There we go.

- Pyro gadgets.

- Pyro gadgets.

- I like your Prometheus.

That was a good idea.

gadgets are fire.

That's a great name!

Prometheus first found fire, right?

Leo, I know you're a pyro at heart.

Very much so, very much so, but I'm having trouble conceptualizing things like tube and I'm not saying no, but I'm not in yet.

I'm saying like a fire slide.

How's that?

A fire slide.

Tell me more about the fire slide.

Okay.

It's a metal tube or a metal like device.

Okay.

That I bet you could bend the flames in a certain way to make the, I don't know, like a fire slide.

Like a marble run, but upside down.

Dude, there we go.

Something like that, right?

You put a little coal, fire coal on the top and maybe it'll spin down the fire slide.

I've got one.

Have you ever seen people take like an oil can and then a bunch of box fans and make a little tornado?

That's what you need.

You need a couple of those little fan guys that you put around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a solo stove official attachment or something.

Fire tornado!

Any outdoor fire.

Yes!

Very cool.

Imagine making s'mores in a fire tornado.

You know, the backyard bonfires.

Freaking jet turbine.

I want to go from your PG-13 to your R version.

You know those airzookas?

You just like you're pulling back and it just shoots air forward, just fill it with some hairspray and a little igniter on the end.

A little circular ring of fire shoots out.

Can you take an airzooka with hairspray and just shoot it through a fire?

That's a good idea.

Boy, this is going to be a bad thing to put into the world.

This is not a net good for society this episode.

It's chaotic, yes, but you know, good, bad, evil, it's one of...

neutral.

I was thinking similar to Scott's idea where I don't know if you guys played with powdered sugar with flames but if you throw it it makes like a mist of fire because they're highly flammable instead of those salt shooters that destroy flies you put powdered sugar and it makes a kind of explosion.

I bet that'd be a fun toy and you can have a little snack on the other side in case you don't you know.

It probably smells good the caramel okay.

You want freckles for life?

Brand new.

Molten sugar at your face.

Do you ever see those instant food cannons some YouTuber made where you're shooting like shrimp horizontal forward and it goes through-- like jets of flames come up as it's traveling through the air and cooks it instantly and then salt and other seasonings go through and hit it in the air as it's still flying.

And in like the two seconds since you launched it, it comes out fully cooked and like-- That can't work.

It must work horribly.

But I would love to play with that.

Completely raw on the inside and charred to a crisp on the outside.

I haven't heard of this.

It's fun.

Like a Rube Goldberg machine.

A fire.

Yeah.

Speed run.

You know how, like on How It's Made, they'll have like the long conveyor belt of something getting cooked in an oven for 20 minutes.

It's like spiraling through.

You almost want to make like a hot dog marble run that goes through the fire over a couple of minutes and comes out the bottom like perfectly cooked.

That's fun.

It reminds me of those gumball machines that super-sized giant ones where you put the coin in and then you see the fun route your gumball takes but instead it's just a glizzy warming up over various flames and hoops and fires A hot pocket Instant fast food You probably could do something like that with a marshmallow.

Yeah, or it's like it's got the cylindrical shape.

Maybe it would work I don't know fire dot toys.

I think there's a dot toys deal, dude.

There you go.

Yeah, that's a fun idea Russell All right.

All you got to do is slap slap a sticker on it that says Warning never attempt or something and absolve yourself of all legal liability and you're good to go Yeah for indoor use only A lot of legal disclaimers on that one not for use for fire, but all the videos Fire all over the packaging is do not use near flames We said it's just a powder sugar gun.

I don't know why you're shooting it through the fire There's like a kid shooting it through the fire on the baggage Warning do not attempt This might be a different pitch but have some covert marketing where you take a product that's totally not intended It doesn't look like it's intended for your actual use and then you subtly Market how it could be used in a much more fun dangerous way Did you know nerf gun commercials do not show them shooting the thing at any other children?

They're only close-ups of them shooting like off into the middle distance and at targets and stuff It's like that like nerf never says this is a gun only it's only ever a blaster and they never say or show it being Shot at anyone.

It's just it's clever.

Yeah, but then there you are, you know Obviously the first thing you do is you shoot your little brother's eye out.

Yeah, exactly Yeah, the trebuchet something that we could Would love to see a flaming log fly through the air You live in the suburbs Okay, here we are if anyone has a pond or something you live anywhere near a lake and you're just launching flaming logs into water That would be amazing.

It's a good night.

This episode has boy energy We just lost our last female listener we did it well done everybody Alrighty, Scotty, what do you got for us this week?

I think I'm just hungry, and based on our shrimp and fire conversations, I'm changing this to...

Okay, you ever see the movie, The Menu, recent?

Yes, great movie.

Comedy, horror film.

It's like a super fancy five-star chef goes crazy and ends up killing his last group of customers because they didn't appreciate him during his life.

Is that with Anna Taylor-Joy?

Yes, yep.

Okay, I did see that.

Okay, perfect.

You guys appreciate it.

That's crazy.

case, spoilers, the last scene of this movie is the main character escaping by convincing this chef to make a non-fancy meal which just ends up being like a classic American McDonald's cheeseburger but I don't know I think it just was super hungry when I saw this but that was on screen that was the most delicious looking cheeseburger I've ever seen in my life like you see all these McDonald's commercials where they have like the you know these like Elmer's glue and cardboard if they try to make it look really good this was like real and good and you could tell that this was just like exactly what it was.

If Gordon Ramsay made a cheeseburger this is what it would look like.

And so my pitch is can we just make a fast food restaurant made of strictly gourmet top highest end quality ingredients and do the same classic things the McDouble, the McChicken, whatever but just made it the highest as possible.

I will pay the premium for whatever it takes to get that because of how freaking good that looked on this smoothie song.

And that is the entire pitch.

Is the thing that differentiates it from normal, you still want it to be like a fast casual like quick drive -thru-y type thing?

No I don't even...

Are you just pitching a fancy restaurant at me?

I think I'm just pitching a fancy restaurant.

You could have the same themes of like it feels like a McDonald's in some form or another but just I want the food to be highest quality possible.

Yeah the best cheeseburger.

How, I'm still stuck on how is this different than a five-star restaurant.

It's just a branding exercise of taking a super fancy five-star restaurant making it look more like fast food and then you would get that attraction and that virality of people being like I want to try what KFC would be like by the best way.

You're like you're leaning hard into the this is exactly that thing next door but good.

And you'll use that as your branding and - Oh, okay.

- Fast food is always fast and cheap.

This is just-- - Well, not anymore.

- Well, I'm the opposite.

- Well, right.

See, everybody, fast food's never cheap, right?

It's increasing in price, but this is like-- - Used to be, yeah.

- Nah, we get rid of the cheap part of the fast food element, and now you have top food, right?

Like, I want the best burger.

Like, how different is getting the worst ground beef to the best ground beef, right?

The logistics system is still the same, right?

- Ground Wagyu.

- Seriously though, Russell and I, during COVID, we purchased like a quarter cow and we just split the meat.

And we had a group of guys that did that.

And the ground beef that we had from that was just night and day better than anything I've ever had before.

They were just organic dairy cows and the meat was incredible.

All ingredients like that.

- I think that your secret to success here in Virality be leaning into it being literally like without the word McDouble it is exactly the same you have to make it obvious to the customer yep this is a KFC whatever chicken bowl but our version that goes back to the underground viral marketing on Instagram right this is a queso rito from Taco Bell but we've made it fun and good right Taco Bell would be good the McCrown you know have the branding colors and everything surrounding the product when you're showing it but never say the name exactly you could go viral with that so this is a sit-down restaurant?

no I'm thinking this is fast food because if you made a drive-thru that'd be pretty sweet yeah honestly if you have like good ingredients you only have like five options on the menu and you're just making a bunch of them back people would go for that you still get it just as quick have it rotate yeah this week is Wendy's week or whatever but you don't actually say it red-haired - Hard girls chain week.

(laughing) - Take out from a rest, like would you, I don't know, would you pay premium price?

I guess it's like, it's the same idea and concept of ordering from a restaurant for pickup, right?

But this would be, I don't know, I'm thinking like a drive-thru experience or a rotation kind of experience, right?

Like, why make a whole restaurant?

Just make, I mean, I think the-- - Fair.

- Why does all the, like if you take the same logistics and machinery that McDonald's and these other chains use, but replace it with top ingredients.

Like, you're gonna have way better.

- Keep everything the same, but just change things.

- Yeah, like that's what every, yeah, it's fresh.

Like what if we just bought a McDonald's franchise, renamed it to, you know, what is it, Nathan Fielder?

Didn't he do something with Starbucks or whatever?

- Dumb Starbucks, yeah.

- Dumb Starbucks.

You literally like, the same, everything.

And then you just pull a stunt like that and see, all right, but we get, you know, you have top chickens, top cows, we use the same equipment, but it makes it better.

It's just overall, right?

- Immediately got a cease and desist from Starbucks, but you may name it like McDornald's or something, see how far you get.

- We just, yeah, we work with a guy named McDonald.

(laughing) It's his name.

We're not doing anything illegal.

- Robert McDonald's.

You just add that on top, his full legal name.

I don't think that works.

I don't think that's how trademark law works.

- Maybe make it the name McDonald's and then you're gonna make it double, make it single, make it quarter pounder.

- Big make it Donald's.

Licensed Donald Duck, there you go.

- I'm just trying to picture that highest end burger that you can possibly do ingredient wise, cooking wise, and then put it into like a classic McDouble box whatever the cardboard that it comes in with like the wrapper on it of course I wonder if that would make it taste worse how much of it is presentation but no that's just not true based upon the beef that we had that one yeah no I think that's part of the the novelty it might be like a psychological thing where you know like you're buying this for the experience at first right you're paying 25 bucks for a McDumble all of a sudden with fries but you know like the The potatoes are fresh.

The bread has cooked this morning.

Bread's cooked this morning.

Yes.

Onions are down the street.

Rare.

Whatever.

I don't know.

Microgreens, of course.

Microgreens, yep.

It's like Claire Saffitz's old Bon Appetit show at the Gourmet Makes where she'd make like the gourmet version of Pop-Tarts or whatever.

You almost have like that but full restaurant.

Exactly.

Fast food.

Perfect.

Perfect example.

Yeah.

I could see that working.

Make it like a pop-up that happens every month or so.

Location different food rotation and love the patient and have it in limited quantity have people lined out the door so that people are like Hey, I got the special McDonald's.

I got the fast food dot period Who knows what it's called and then just keep it going with the highest and quality air city is a great idea I heard next week is Arby's week and that they're gonna be over in San Diego or whatever.

Yeah This could be a cloud kitchen, you know those cloud kitchens that are only existed on like grubhub and or - Like the ghost kitchens?

It just appears in your neighborhood and everyone freaks out?

- Yup.

- It's risky.

- Well, they just take, they just work with like, you know, your local restaurant to, and then they, yeah, the door dash driver will go to like, New Holland Brewery or whatever and just pick up a chicken sandwich there and call it the, you know, the hot and fire sandwich with this whole new brand and they mark it up two or three bucks.

Or Mr.

Beast, Mr.

Beast did this.

All of Beast's burgers were coming out of like, a big boy chain or whatever.

And you're like, you know, they probably supply some extra ingredients, but maybe you work, you do that with like a, a high-end restaurant or a restaurant next to a high-end restaurant.

(laughing) You know, work that out.

But what is it, Binging with Babish?

You guys watch that guy on YouTube?

He does TV food.

Like he'll take like the turkey sandwich from Friends and recreate that in his kitchen.

You could totally do something like that.

Like you could, I mean, this could evolve into like, instead of just duplicating existing fast food places and elevating them, you could take TV franchise foods, like the one you saw on the menu, the menu burger, right.

And cloud kitchen that, right.

That's like the Minecraft burger, like the Minecraft movies all over the place, right?

Like you just just create a cloud kitchen for.

So you go to entertainers, the Hollywood studios, game publishers and stuff and you say, what are some food items in your thing?

We will make a recipe and distribute it to Cloud Kitchens and do all the work to facilitate that as a middleman.

We will license your IP and you get a cut or whatever.

That's fun.

Have you ever wanted to eat the cake from Portal?

(laughing) - Oh yeah.

- We'll make it, you know?

We'll decorate it, we'll do all that and then send that out to your local distributed Cloud Kitchens to make it on DoorDash, yeah.

That's a great example of helping out a mom and pop shop.

They follow a recipe that's the portal cake, and it's literally their same bakery.

They're making the cake.

They just put icing in a different way.

OK, I want two things from this.

I want the final dish at the end of Ratatouille, exactly how it looks like when they serve it, and Emperor New Groove Kronk makes those spinach something right before they-- No, what does he call them?

Yes, I know what you're talking about.

the greek things yeah i want those i want the krabby patty from yeah that's a great one that's a fantastic one can they trademark these things like yes i want the blue pet krabby patty though what was the one that he made the the competing store that changed colors the pretty patties i want a pretty patty i'm gonna take a krabby patty and a Can I jump in for a food related item here?

Do it, yeah!

Do it!

Okay, okay.

Alright, Chilly, what do you have this week?

So Scott talking about fast food, Russell talking about campfires with his pyro toys.

For some reason I was thinking about space food.

I feel like a huge event's going on, Jeff Bezos' ships are going around, Katy Perry drama, right?

What if we create a very high end, very bougie space food where it's literally food attached Spaceships fitted in its way so that it re-enters orbit and heats this food up Tell me there isn't someone rich enough who would want the experience of true space food And I think it mimics back to you know space-dated food dried food You know space candy space ice cream where everyone it was all the rage And I think it's crazy how commoditized all of these new space races are and we're not diving in on space food How do we not have Katy Perry's fine steak meal or something like that?

You know, I mean I think I think there'd be a market there very limited Tom Scott famous youtuber put a piece of garlic bread in space by a very high altitude balloon system and then brought it back Down, but if we could instead release the steak raw and then have it gain heat It's gonna be on the earth cook on re-entry not to naysay here I think you'd have the same raw in the inside and charcoal on the outside problem unless you've made some sort of special Oh sure Have it re-enter orbit at a certain angle properly so that it cooks.

You know, medium rare You can have different launch options.

You can have the rare raw blue blue origin Zero G sous vide.

Well, like you could like candy or whatever you can cook sugar really at high temperatures, you send it through space, and now you literally have candy that was made through space.

And this could be a big bag of sugar or something, right?

- This is the least sustainable thing we've ever come up with, I think.

This is great.

(laughing) - Yeah, gasoline-- - You spend a few trillion dollars and then you get a handful of candy, I love it.

- All right, all right.

No, no, here's how it'll be sustainable.

We piggyback off of all these rocket launchers, you know, that are sending millions, Yeah, it's just you put you attach one bag on there on its way up that it releases halfway through to go green Literally, we're gonna make money and then donate to the planet.

Yeah, it's so easy.

They don't have to know We can just magnet to it right as it's launching boom.

Yes But I think it's a math problem I think it's a math problem to heat up the food at a certain temperature for a certain time and get back into reentry I don't know how much it do you have to make it go really fast in order for that to happen?

Scott do you know?

I think it's just the atmosphere Balloon going up and then coming back down.

I don't think that's gonna cook it on there.

You got to be going like Obscenely fast orbit fast in order to get the heat to do it So it costs a lot of energy to get the rocket moving that fast slowing it down is what heats it Yeah, but could you start out with the balloon have the balloon lift the rocket launch it sideways?

Right.

Could we invent a space elevator on our way to cooking garlic bread better?

You could use the Sun Sun is the ultimate slow cooker if you think about it Okay, this is kind of crazy but Kinda like can food go bad out in space.

I said the ultimate vacuum isn't it?

Super very cold Yes, it's very very cold.

So if you have a stick hanging out in space for a few weeks, I mean it'd be fine.

It dry-aged in space.

It does have a ring to it.

It just seems like one of those luxury things that, you know, Salt Bay's restaurant or something, or high-end restaurants would want to have a crazy technique that brings people in, and that would be the thing.

- I think the gods describe Like pyro toys and this are like perfect little gift ideas for 20 bucks that you need to fill out your stockings Space skittle, okay space X literally tells you how much you can send into space and how much it costs, right?

Let's do a P&L real quick get the cogs Okay, Falcon heavy.

All right, you can send a Falcon heavy for like I think it's like yeah, it costs per kilogram Now we would we talk to Elon obviously we just on Twitter Because that's how you reach them And we just tell him about He's not doing anything I don't know I just that would be fun I think that'd be something different and fun.

We could attach them to satellites.

I know we have Thousands of satellites out in orbit right now.

They get commissioned decommissioned all the time some micro sats But they're just boxes of cereal.

Could you create a device?

That uses the air or the as it's falling out of the sky It still went to space but it's cooking on its way down.

Does that make sense?

No, so, okay Imagine you create a propeller All right, generating energy in order to heat the steak somehow as it yes on its way down So you've got now yeah, not only you're setting up the stake you're setting up a griddle and a battery on the way down It's a propeller that generates enough friction on its way down on a metal plate no You know who would be able to make this I think ninja would they have the ninja air fryer the ninja creamy They got the ninja slushy If it was one company, I would put my stocks in in the ninja You're pretty I fan that's blowing on the stake as it's falling to earth that is adding more air It's that that's what we call a air fryer All right, well that's my idea Leo what have you brought us this week Okay, so my kids enjoy Borrowing our phones and sending emoji messages to my parents and loved ones.

It's very cute They just sit there with the emoji keyboard and swipe and peck at it and something that even my now three-year-old can do trouble they quit out of the app they Accidentally the screen turns off they and text message comes in and takes over and then they lose where they're at There's a bunch of reasons why using our phones for it is kind of inconvenient.

I would love to build some sort of hardware that is the emoji sending BlackBerry, but for kids where they have a predefined list of recipients that the parent is in control of and some sort of hardware keyboard or MacBook Touch Bar style interface or something where it's just a dedicated emoji sender like the Facebook poke but a little bit more robust or remember Yo that kind of app or something Just like maybe this could be a totally software product and it takes over the phone full screen and can't be quit out Unless the parent does some sort of special swipe or something or maybe this is a hardware thing I don't know yet But I need to productify this thing because it's driving me nuts that they're like Can I send an emoji message and I lose my phone for a half hour while they get frustrated nice How would you how would you build this?

Here are your requirements easy to use for kid they type in emojis There's hundreds of emoji to pick from which is a problem Maybe you have a narrow set or not I don't know and then it connects to Wi-Fi and sends it it can even send it over like What's app or Facebook messenger or something?

So you don't have to worry about having phone numbers and cell phone connections and all that, right?

So then how do you what's the user interface for someone like that?

I think it's just a very Specific designed let's say tablet for now.

Sure a tablet with a specific set of Screens and features.

I love this because I think there is a use for Like a mounted tablet kind of thing for kids to call FaceTime Yes, yes as well as send messages voice messages Like yeah, my kids started getting into sending like he wanted to not send a voice message she wanted to press the microphone so that the thing would type out the words for sometimes, you know, and then-- - Okay.

- Yeah, you can do voice attacks, that's the word.

- Yeah, yeah.

- Yeah, and so you just jump between the three.

But the interface for a kid, like, it's really hard to, it'd be really cool if you saw a screen of all the people you know, right?

And they can swipe left and right, select the person, call.

- It's a safe, and I think that's a win for like, if you're a mom or you're alone as a parent in a house, Yes.

And something happens to you.

You fall.

You can't get up.

Life alert.

You go to-- no, that's-- oh, sorry.

That's not the tablet I named.

In just emojis.

Hey, Grandma.

Mama fell on the ground.

Totally.

Can she call?

We've trained our kids that they can go to the Google Smart Speakers and press this and swipe here.

And now you'll be able to do a video call with Dad or Mom.

If something ever happens, you can do that, right?

But having that be easier would be great.

Well, there you go.

- It sounds like what, like a smart speaker.

- It's not great though.

Like we need to build our own smart speaker here.

- So you do want dedicated hardware for this, you're thinking?

- I think so, or just like you said, an iPad with the tape to the wall that has the app floating full screen that we're designing this UI for sure, hardware or software.

- My idea about the interface, it mimics PowerPuff Girls, if you guys remember the phone that would come online and it's rotary.

Each rotary hole would have a different emoji with two different buttons underneath.

scroll pages and on top would have you know your list of contacts if you want to go there you can choose your contacts from There maybe one through nine on the rotary phone That's fun.

That's novel.

Yeah having something tactile would be great and then take the phone up you can leave their voice messages Maybe have a small display screen to have what Russell said which is like a text-to-speech I think that'd be really fun a little tactile whether it's Something that is touchscreen itself in the rotary phone or just you know a tactile screen and then something behind it I could see that being done with like yeah Yeah, I am NOT inspired by an iPad with my app on it that probably honestly I haven't searched for this that probably exists I love like Imagine like an old-timey cash register and you're walking up to it and pressing grandma's picture and then like pulling down the lever that could clunk And then like different buttons are popping up and stuff make it fun Absolutely.

Just put ESP32 in it that sends out the message.

That's what I was thinking.

ESP32, yes, yes, yes.

Put in Arduino, ESP, yeah, exactly.

Have it Bluetooth to your own phone or iPad.

Sure, I love this.

Connects to Wi-Fi and sends it on Telegram, Signal, Facebook, whatever.

Totally.

Grandparents, we don't have to build the whole messaging and auth stack from scratch.

This can be something that sends a little ifs, then that hook or something.

but the interface is the core issue for sure.

- I'm just picturing two of these typewriters, but they're, even if you did create the stack in yourself, you have one typewriter, you type on one, and then it auto types on the other one, like old school Morris or something, and you're just communicating back and forth through emojis on a typewriter.

- Two typewriters, emoji keyboard, you press the button on one and the other one clicks, is amazing!

It's a fax machine, but analog.

And oh, I love that.

- Yeah, Leo's geeking out.

It's just totally Leo.

- Oh shoot.

That's so me, yeah.

- We're hitting so many different decades or centuries with this one device.

- My old school typewriter doesn't have enough wifi.

- Could be a small one, right?

Like I could get a small one that would be like a little receipt printer type of thing size, but you'd hear it going, right?

(imitates typing) In the other room while you're there.

You're like, oh shit.

- I sent a message to mom, yeah.

You know those smart mirror displays with the screen behind it?

I was thinking something like that, but maybe using old Android smartphones decommissioned screens where it's a mirror for your kid and has a camera So if your kid makes a certain face It would predict what kind of emoji you would want to send display it and then have them choose it So then your kids stuck it behind the camera going Big smiley face tap brownie face tap - Face, heart.

- I can imagine they would be in front of that thing for hours.

- Oh, that's a great idea.

A user interface where the user is putting in the emoji by acting it out.

That's great.

- Wow, Keith.

- Someone's probably done that.

That's the interface.

It doesn't even have to be the smart mirror.

Well, I guess that you'd have, you know, if you have the iPad on the wall or something, that's one way to type it in or something.

Man, that rules.

- I feel like people would do that.

And then you could, it would send the message and the recording of like the video recording too.

- Right.

Like the heads up, you know the heads up game, right?

Where you're like, where it's recording, you could do that, something like that.

- Remember there was a keyboard that was something that I wanted so badly in like the mid 2000s where every key cap was a, an OLED screen.

And yeah, it was like an array of them.

It was too heavy and it didn't feel good to type on and it was glass and it wasn't great.

But yeah, you would like hit shift and all of the lowercase things would turn to uppercase or you'd hit control and it would say cut, copy, paste, whatever, instead of the letters and things like that.

I almost want something like that, where I've got a row of, say, I don't know, 15, 20 little keys with screens on them.

And they're categories.

And when my kid presses the first button that is faces, then the rest of them all change to happy, sad, laughing, whatever.

And then they press that or something.

You know what I mean?

I've been trying to think of the different ways that this interface could manifest, because once we get Input down.

I don't think it's very hard to plumb it up to getting to the recipient, you know But I think the camera is probably the best one and then the grandparents get the cute kid video What if we just design a singular key switch and they tap it in a rhythmic order to send the emoji over?

Has that been invented yet?

Beep beep beep beep beep Old Morse code?

They said smile It could be a giant wheel that they click, you know, like a giant you like a your bike locks, right?

It's got ero one two, three, four, five six, seven eight nine, but just one giant wheel of emojis I mean, this is a little weird and different You turn it you hit send turn it hit send turn it hit send just okay Completely out there like a fishing rod We'll say on one side that gets you your emoji to the right arrow Once the arrow lines up with the emoji you want to send or something push a button Yep, and the thing is like little tiny emojis and it's the size of a frisbee and they're just yep Going through 50 60 70 of them as they spin through it.

That's fun I feel like the customized keyboard the closest thing I could think of as an existing product would be one of those alligator stream decks Yeah, it's customizable screens and then having it go to you or whatever ASCII key Whatever, etc to the emoji biggest Elgato stream deck is like 8 by 8 or something.

We need like 50 by 50 They make a studio.

I think it's like two rows.

It's super long for those server racks or like a roll desk that people Yeah, they have large ones on Aliexpress.

Really?

There's like a really long Stream, you know, the stream deck is just a giant screen with like key clear key caps in the yeah I've got that's the cheap way to do it.

Yeah, I just didn't know that like I figured it would be lots of little screens behind There right, but the cheaper way to build something like that was just one LCD panel Makes a lot of sense.

That's what I was thinking of with the rotary screen phone.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah Yeah There's some sort of opportunity for a Facebook portal or smart display or something for kids out there And if someone wants to take it and run with it, I would be your first customer.

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Thank you guys for having me.

I appreciate Russell reaching out I've been a fan of your show for a few months now.

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