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Hello and welcome to the Establishing Shot, a podcast where we do deep dives and two directors and their filmographies.

So we will not be doing that today.

However, today is one of our fun middle of the road episodes where in between right now we're in between West Side Story, which JP Boudreaux, who's here with me today, join me for last week.

Great conversation on that movie, which we both loved.

Next week we'll be doing the Fableman's, but we're going to do a movie draft episode today.

So to go along with Spielberg's West Side Story, we are going to be drafting 1st century movie musicals.

I'm ready to dance, fight our way into this draft for sure.

Yes, I've been working on my pirouettes and my twirls and my snapping.

Get your swing plate handy.

You know or you know, a rocket in my pocket.

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Just.

Going by.

It's a revolver, guys.

I'm talking about the revolver.

Come on, you guys all know I can still carry.

In your pockets.

But I'll be cool.

But I'll, I'll keep.

Cool.

OK, All right, all right, fair.

Tell the tell the people what our ground rules we agreed to is.

Yeah, yeah.

Let's talk about the ground rules.

Well, OK, first, before we get into the ground rules, what makes this is the big question.

What makes a movie?

We talked about it probably a lot last week, but maybe someone's jumping in for the first time today.

What makes a movie musical distinct from a stage musical to you?

I mean, obviously the big part is the perspective.

And yeah, like, obviously if you go watch a musical on stage, you're in your seat and that's your only view when you're filming it.

You can move the camera in and out of position.

You can do a lot of other things to bring the audience into the moment as well as something we talked about is, you know, a lot of very traditional stage plays, musicals included, that don't include microphones and things like that.

Although most musicals probably would have some kind of microphone, but you're often having to perform, you're performing for the back row, right?

You're projecting, you know, so sometimes.

Bigger.

Right, Exactly, exactly bigger.

Like you literally have to be more over the top with everything because you want the people all the way the back to be able to see.

So you have to do a twirl in a movie.

You might just do like a little like put in a musical on a stage.

You have to do twice as much effort for people to to see what's happening.

And so you can kind of lose some of the intimacy sometimes in a, in a, a musical stage play that you can regain when you have a camera that you're bringing in.

And I think you just have again, I I not, not to say that there's anything wrong with like a stage play musical, but.

Oh no, yeah, I think you just different mediums.

You have, you just have so many more resources available when you're doing it as a film and you have a a much more, I don't want to say, I don't know if uniques the right word, but you have a much more maybe intriguing way to be able to present the material.

Yeah, well, I think so.

I think the big difference to me is in a stage play, the audience, you as the audience member, you kind of in a lot of ways choose where to put your focus.

And so in that sense, one of the cool things I think about a stage play is especially with with stage plays where there's a lot of moving parts.

You know, you have a lot of people on stage for, for instance, for West Side Story that we covered last week, maybe at a time, there's a lot of stuff going on.

Hamilton is another thing, but there's a ton of stuff going on on stage all at a time.

And so the cool thing about a stage play is you as the audience member get to kind of decide what to focus on and what to watch.

And so you can go several times and kind of like pick out different new things that you're that you're noticing going on.

And so there's that that kind of element that is really cool about a stage play, whereas in in a movie musical, you know, the director in the cinematographer are making those choices for you.

But in that you also are able to like hone in and focus on the point that's trying to be driven or the moment or the character that you're you're wanting to focus on in those more like cinematic moments that kind of focus your attention.

So I think they they both have like their advantages and they're like, you know, they're different, you know, because obviously stage, there's people that just love stage plays and would go, you know, as often as I go to the movies to see a stage play, I don't really have that.

We don't really have that here in Lafayette, LA as an option.

But yeah, you know, they both have their advantages as far as like a medium to express stories and and whatnot.

But yeah, for a movie musical, it's, to me, it's just all about like what what decisions are like the film makers making to like focus your attention, to give you like experiential moments of perspective.

Like you were saying that you can't really get like from watching a whole stage of people.

Yeah.

And so here's my second question.

Why are musicals so much more rare in the 21st century?

Or is that just like, am I perceiving that are they actually more rare than they used to be now?

Or were they always kind of more rare, but we just weren't experiencing it in the moment and back then?

I don't know.

It just feels like you don't get as many musicals as you used to.

I don't know.

Do you have any thoughts on that?

Well, you know, I was kind of in in researching for this.

I pulled up on Wikipedia.

They have a page of list of musical films by year, and as far as I can tell, believe it or not, there has not been a single year that has not included like quite a few musical films.

Now it's very obvious that like after the 50s it starts to kind of go down and you can kind of see it kind of trending down over the years.

But pretty much every year there's at least like 10 to 15 like musical sort of films that could be that could be included.

I do think obviously this is including like animated movies, including like direct to DVD sequels and like, like it's including everything that could be considered a musical, even if it's like, like I think I think I'm seeing on here, like one of the options is like Leprechaun in the hood, which, you know, hopefully you weren't going to pick that one for your draft.

And like, I don't, I've, I've never seen that movie.

I know of it.

And I'm like, I don't know why that we could be considered a musical.

I'm guessing there's a couple like hip hop moments in the movie or something.

I don't know.

But but yeah, it's just it's just interesting or yeah, so I'm looking at this list.

I'm like, there's definitely some movies on here that I'm like, that's not a musical.

I don't know why you're calling it a musical, you know, so so I think it's it's not necessarily that they're more rare.

I think that we just don't get a lot of most of them are not on the level of like a West Side Story.

Most of them are not being released in theaters.

A lot of these are either going to be animated or they're going to be, you know, these days you'd be like direct to streaming probably.

And I think that's the biggest thing is that they're just they're not it's the same thing as like westerns, right?

Sure, like westerns are rare but we usually get at least a few like high like you know higher profile ones.

They get some kind of theatrical release a year still.

Yeah.

But you go back to like the 40s or the 50s and like every movie was a budget.

So I think a lot of it has to just do with just an over saturation and people just get kind of sick of it.

You know, I think that's kind of where we're starting to get with like superhero medium now in some way, or at least specifically the MCU.

I feel like the MCU is definitely starting to kind of lose some steam with people.

You see some of the last couple of films if not really done as well as they wanted.

I think people are just kind of like, I don't know if it's so much they're they're tired of them or people are finally realizing that the quality is starting to really wane per SE.

But at the same time, I say that while we also have like the DCU just now fully launching.

So so I think maybe this the superhero bubble is a little bit different because there's so much material to to pick from.

But I but I do think that when when a certain genre is really latched onto in every single movie seems to be following that genre, they just start to kind of fall off after a while because audience are like, oh, great.

Like I'm sure they're like in in the in the somebody's grandma was like, oh, wow, another musical.

Love it.

Yeah.

You know Fred Astaire.

Right, exactly, and also he has to think about the 2 is like back then there wasn't any way to like consume the musical outside of going to see the film right projected in the.

Theater, Yeah.

There's no, there's no home video version of it.

There's no, there's not really a recording you could take home necessarily.

And you couldn't just go watch all the classics instead at home.

Right.

Exactly, exactly.

Whatever we're.

Showing at the theater, Yeah.

So I think that's that's part of it too.

But but yeah, I know we just, we just live in such a different, such a different world.

No.

And so I think that there are still musicals more often than we realize.

They're just not on the same level as they used.

To be, yeah, I was going to say too, it's probably, I was going to say like would bet that it's a lot to do with marketability too these days.

Musicals probably used to be a lot more marketable to a wider audience.

And it just seems like these days, any given person you say like, hey, do you like musicals?

You get a lot of like, there's not a lot of like people that are just like all in ready and excited for the next musical that comes out.

I think when you have stuff like Wicked comes out, that's like a big deal.

Like that can help the general public's like opinion on musicals.

But yeah, it's I think it's a marketability thing.

Like studios aren't going to put a bunch of money behind a musical because they just don't feel like AY dot, they're going to make money off of it at the end of the day.

So and I mean, there's a there's a a little bit of truth to that.

We just talked about how Spielberg lost money on West Side Story and it's a huge like it's a huge production, like phenomenal movie is still lost money.

Now, part of that is because it was coming out of COVID, I think, but I don't know that it would have been done like if it released today, if it would have done like a ton better, it would have done better for sure, but I think it still would have been like only making a little bit of money, like net, you know?

Yeah, probably I, I think.

Because it was over $100 million movie.

Yeah, yeah.

And I and I, I really hate to say this, but I really think you got to.

I really just got to latch on to to the viral marketing.

I mean I'm thinking about like K Pop Demon Hunters which I've not watched but it's just apparently taking the world by storm.

It's really good I'll.

Probably see it eventually, but.

You should watch it.

It's it's honestly.

I saw I'm on Netflix, so I have to either use watch it while I met someone else's house that has Netflix or, yeah, find, find other ways that I wouldn't know how to do.

But but yeah, so I, I think the same time, like I always, always really cool to see something like that become really popular because it's like it's something different, you know, like I, I remember when Squid Game exploded, I was very happy because I'm like, I love seeing people.

I mean, not I mean K Pop team hunters, like it's an English language film and it's made by Sony animation.

But people consuming something that's kind of representative of another culture, I think is great, you know?

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, let's set the ground rules for our drafts.

The big one is this is 21st century movie musicals.

So we're talking about movies released from 2000 to today, the year 2000 to today.

So not 1999, not 2026, but but from 2000 to the day.

So that's the big one.

The other thing we are we're not doing like, so musical can be a broader term to also include things like jukebox music, jukebox musicals or like musical biopics, which are like you can think of things like Bohemian Rhapsody or Rocket Man, which are like biopics about artists.

And there are performances that are like artistically placed in the film to relate to the artist.

Like there is that sort of thing, but is more like a biopic than a musical.

And so we're we're not really including stuff like that.

So we're doing it.

We're going with like the traditional way you think of musicals.

So that's that's the second ground rule.

The third one is where each allowed one animated musical.

So you can think you're Disney musicals or, you know, there's, you know, I, I kind of doubt you're going to choose Trolls, but something like Trolls I I guess could probably count as a musical.

Literally any of the like the Pitch Perfect films, you know?

Would be the.

Way we talk about nevermind I completely miss missed the plot about I never thought about jukebox musical anime.

Yeah, Pitch Perfect would be like a jukebox musical.

Not really a musical.

They're just kind of singing songs all throughout.

That's true.

That's true.

It's like that's the other side of it too.

It's like, OK if if they just sing a song, is that a musical?

No, it's not.

I I I wouldn't say so either.

I.

Think I have a movie that I consider a musical that my wife and other people I've talked to say definitely not a musical.

Well, because they they will let people decide.

They just sing songs.

They're performing songs throughout, but they the songs are like originally written for the movie and they do play into the plot.

It's just like they're not just like breaking out into song per SE.

So I don't know.

And there's maybe like my to my wife.

There's not enough of those music moments in the movie either.

What?

What do you think is like the bare minimum for a musical?

How many?

How many musical numbers?

I don't know, like for let's say for like an hour, 30 hour, 45 minute movie.

I mean, you probably want at least like what, 7, five to seven at least?

See, I think 5 is kind of what I felt like is the bare bit of yeah, 5 good songs.

Yeah.

And this one that I'm talking about definitely has I.

Mean because West Side Story has like.

West Side Story has like 10.

Yeah, it's like 2 1/2 hours.

So I mean, that's, I mean, do you feel like there'll be more in that?

Kind of, yeah.

But then you, you get something like Jesus Christ Superstar, which like the whole thing is songs like rock opera, you know?

Well, I'll be asking you this before we get into it.

What what, what, what is your, what's your opinion on a musical versus like a rock opera?

Do you have like a preference?

No, I, I don't know that I've seen enough rock operas per SE, like, like I'm thinking of like Phantom of the Paradise is like a rock opera, and that's really good.

Well, I just, I just read.

It's like, it's like, like a musical is like.

Phantom of the Opera is a rock opera for.

For what It, have you ever seen Phantom of the Opera?

Yeah, Yeah, it's a rock opera.

I mean, it's, it's got a lot of like electric guitar parts, I mean.

It's like all the rock stuff too.

Is is not not necessarily meaning rock music, but it's meaning like yeah, rock opera is a term for like almost from beginning to end, almost every single thing is sung versus a musical is like.

That's how spoken opera is, though.

And then breaking, yeah, I mean, a little bit, yeah.

No, it is like the like I would say probably like 90% of 90% or more of Phantom of the Opera's sung.

Yeah, maybe so.

It's been a while since I saw but that's that's like my.

Mom so maybe Phantom of the Paradise, maybe not because there's it's broken up with dialogue and song, but but Phantom of the Opera, like the actual we watched it back.

Me and me and my wife did a musical March back in March.

And so we watched a bunch of musicals in the month of March, some just us 2, some with the kids.

So we watched the I can't remember which recording it was of the Phantom of the Opera.

I had never seen it before.

Like a Broadway recording.

Yeah, it was.

It wasn't Broadway.

It was like the London one.

It's like it's like the main.

When you look it up, it's like the main one.

With Michael Crawford as the Phantom.

I don't know.

I don't remember who who the.

Yeah, that's my mom's very musical and she loves that version of The Phantoms.

Gotcha.

Yeah, I mean, I can tell you in 2 seconds because I have it pulled up.

No, it's Ramin Karimlu.

Karimlu, it's the The Phantom of the Opera at the Royal Albert Hall is, if you like, look it up.

That's what it's 2011.

I mean, yeah, let's do we need any more ground rules or any more?

Nah, we're good.

Let's get into this.

Let's jump into it.

I unfortunately you have the first pick because I picked first when we did our movie presidents draft.

So now it's your turn to pick first.

Again, there's a lot about it.

There's a lot of power here because I, because I, I know there's probably a couple really heavy hitters we're both going to be trying to go for.

Yeah, you think so?

I do, I do and I I could think of two that I that I really would love to have my list and I probably pause.

Yes, just like all other typical movie drafts we're doing like this is the West Side Story.

It's the like the the main honorable mention.

Are we agreeing on that?

Oh yeah, of course.

Because I think it might be my number one choice if we were, if it was on the board it.

Wouldn't be my number one choice, but that's fair.

That's fair enough.

OK.

Yeah.

OK.

Go ahead, go ahead.

OK so so you know a little fun fact about me, I think I've talked about this, but like I grew up in a family that was very musical.

My mom loves musicals Broadway's my sister especially.

She used to watch she watch start listening to a new musical and she would watch or listen to it for weeks on end learning every single song.

Annoying if I'm honest.

But one of the one of the movies.

And I think I think I got to start with this one of the movies that she watched every day for like 3 weeks straight that at first I was really annoyed, didn't want to watch.

And then there was a scene of it that caught my attention and I finally watched the entire thing and I think.

It is probably one of the greatest musicals ever to put to film, especially considering everything was sung 100% live.

I think I'm going to open up with 2012's version of Les Miserables with Hugh Jackman and a bunch of other people.

Phenomenal cast, phenomenal music, phenomenal cinematography, everything you.

Jackman and a lot of other people you got to mention.

I was, I was, yeah.

And got the way by name.

So I'm sorry, I was just blanking on Eddie Redmayne, Amanda, Sacha Baron, He's great.

You know, Helen Blakeen Carter.

I mean, I there's is a ton of great, great, great, great like performers in there.

And especially like it's really cool seeing Hugh Jackman considering that like a little fun fact for the audience.

If you don't know, like prior to Wolverine, he was actually a Broadway actor in Australia.

And so this was kind of his his returning to musical theatre of sorts prior to like the greatest showman, which I actually kind of hate that movie.

But but anyway so Les Miserables spoiler.

JP will not be that.

Will not be the greatest, the greatest showman.

I'm sorry y'all, any of y'all out there like that movie.

Have fun there.

Are a lot of people, there's a lot of fans of that movie.

So you might have, you might have just ruined your chances at winning.

That's true.

That's true.

I I mean I thought I watched that and I was like this feels like they wrote the songs 1st and then they tried to figure out how to put a musical around it.

That's fair.

Anyway, yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of that either, to be honest.

But but yeah, I don't mind it.

But yeah, so yeah.

Lim is directed by Tom Hooper, who also directed 2019's Cats So.

Which?

That's also on the board.

Spoiler I don't think either of us would be picking that one either, but I never.

Seen it so.

Me neither, but I was.

I was too scared by CGI cat suit Taylor Swift.

So yeah, yeah, yeah.

And and good picks that Who's that British guy?

The the gym.

Yeah, he does the The Late Show.

Yeah, James Corden, that's.

Corden.

Corden.

Yeah, yeah.

Good pick.

I haven't seen this version of late.

Dang.

Well, this is the only version I've seen.

No, no, no, I haven't seen it since I saw it in theaters.

I was trying to remember if I've seen it since then, but yeah I haven't seen this since I saw it in theaters.

I want to say after musical March, I didn't watch Lee miss.

Well, we tried to watch ones, a lot of ones we haven't seen before.

OK, fair, fair.

And so fill in a lot of blind spots.

So.

Yeah.

And then the month is only so long.

So eventually it was April and April.

Musical April doesn't sound as good.

That's true.

I remember loving this movie back when I saw it, but I haven't seen it since then.

It's one of those that like I have it on my list, but it would be like if I was taking it, I it would kind of be like, I think I would still love this movie, but I don't I don't know.

It's kind of it's kind of one of those movies that like some people really love, some people are kind of man on and then there's some people that like are like, Ah, not very good.

It's kind of got people on all ends of the spectrum.

Yeah, I I also feel like I I really love Key and Peele's parody of Les Mis.

Like the sketch.

I don't think I've.

Seen that?

It's so funny.

I've seen a lot of their stuff, but I don't think I've seen.

That like they have a full on sketch that they did for their show years ago after this movie came out where they match like the vibe and the set and they're just like kind of making fun of like.

Because.

Like I think the joke about Les Mis specifically is like it's got a lot of like everybody's singing different things at the same time.

Sure, yeah.

Which so I think it's kind of the magic of musicals is like the ensemble and I really love but but I do know that some for some people might be a bit much.

Yeah.

And so, but yeah, I think, I think, yeah, I so I recommend for anyone who is a fan of musicals, if you haven't seen that sketch, literally just go to YouTube key and Peele Les Mis and I'm sure you'll be able to find it.

And highly recommend watching that.

You'll get a good a good giggle out of that for sure, yeah.

I also know I also am.

I also am remembering I saw this in theaters with my ma who which is my grandma.

That's what I call her.

So shout out to her.

She's whenever I've seen movies with her in my life, she is like she always wants to pull the moral of the story out right after you see the movie and try to figure out what the moral this.

And I don't remember what she did with Les Mis, but I mean that's chock full of morals of the story, so I'm sure she had something for that one.

But yeah, I bet you she's like, she's like an A tier post movie discussion circle member.

Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

I remember seeing King Kong with her, the James Cameron King Kong and she was like she was ready man with her take away.

Peter Jackson.

Peter Jackson, Yeah, I don't know why I said.

I don't know what a James Cameron King Kong movie would look like.

It'll probably look really good.

I mean, maybe if we're talking like aliens James Cameron, but not Avatar James Canyon.

I Adam.

OK, you.

I'm glad you made that pic so that I can make the pic.

Probably the other movie you were going to pick.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah.

I'm going with 2016's La La Land by Damien Chazelle.

Yeah, I mean, took the world by storm, won an Oscar for two seconds and won a Best picture Oscar for two seconds.

Before it was taken away.

Won best picture anyway.

Moonlight is a great movie.

I like La La Land more, but it was one of those where it's like, yeah, OK, I can see, I can see it, you know, it's a great movie.

But yeah, La La Land, I'll say this too.

It's it is a it's not a like a remake, but it is a hugely, it's a hugely inspired by the story of one of my other favorite all time musicals, which is the umbrellas of Schaeburg, great, great French musical, which is completely sung by Jacques DeMille.

If you haven't seen that movie, you should see it.

It's great.

But but yeah, Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone just making movie magic.

It's just great.

It's just great all around.

It's it's not like cliche in the right ways when it you know, it's cliche when it needs to be.

But doesn't like sit in the cliche, obviously with like the ending and what not.

But yeah, I, I love La La Land.

I think everybody loves La La Land.

Every once in a while, one of the songs I'll catch myself humming, even though I probably haven't seen it in like a couple years at this point since I saw it last.

But still, those songs just like pop up in my head.

So yeah, La La Land.

Yep, that's one of them.

Yeah.

All right, from here, I don't know where you're going to go.

Honestly, I have no clue.

So.

Yeah, I, I definitely got a couple others that I, I very strongly want to be able to have on my list, but we'll, we'll see how it goes.

So, OK, I think I think for, for my, my next pick, I think I got to go for one that I feel like even if you don't like musicals, you would probably like this movie because because I, I would say it's a musical for people who don't like musicals.

Because I, I think that the overall vibe of it, a lot of people could really get behind.

It's got a great cast, great team in front and behind the camera.

I think I got to go with 2007's Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street, Johnny Depp, Elena Bowen Carter, Alan Rickman, directed by Tim Burton.

So you already, if you like the Tim Burton vibe, there's plenty to love here.

It's it's a really like, it's like a really stunning film to like look at visually, even though it's got kind of a bit of a washed out colour palette.

But then when the when when the blood shows up, it kind of helps counteract that, right, because they make it real high.

And so it's, it gives it and, and like the whole world is like this very it like it's in color, but everything's like very black and white and Gray.

And so except for a couple very like key things like certain people's hair or if a blood shows up or this person's wearing this particular outfit.

So but yeah, I mean, the songs in it are great.

There's definitely not as many as some other musicals, but but what do you, what do you think about that?

When I say I think, I think it's a musical for people who maybe wouldn't traditionally like musicals, but I think this one's a little bit more conceivable maybe.

I think the Tim Burton of it all probably helps in in that regard.

And Johnny Depp's great.

I think it's one of the.

Best Roles and Helena Bottom.

Carter's doing her thing that she always does and it's always pretty great.

So this is another one I haven't seen.

It's been even probably even longer.

I don't think I've seen it since I was in high school.

I think when I saw that, I saw it I probably a couple of times during high school, but I don't think I've seen it since.

And I wasn't really into musicals in the high school per SE.

I wasn't like anti musical, I guess, but I wasn't like, oh, let me go watch a musical.

So I really liked it back then.

And so that probably is a point in favor of your point of a musical for people who aren't really into musicals necessarily.

But yeah, I, it was definitely on my list.

I was probably going to pick it at some point if you didn't just based, even though it's been so long since I've seen it.

But yeah, yeah, good pick.

Can't go wrong with Yeah, you can't.

Well, I won't spoil what the movie.

What happens in the movie?

Yeah, tasty.

I'll just say that.

You run for that one, bro.

OK, you know, you know.

Yeah, if you know, you know.

OK, so we are picking 1 animated each.

We're allowed one animated one.

If we were if it was like unlimited animated, they the list might just be a bunch of Disney, Disney movies.

That'd be so yeah, that would be boring.

So we're doing one each.

I don't think I'm going to pick mine yet, even though I highly regard my top choice and I don't even know if this movie that I'm about to pick, I don't even know.

Like if it's on your radar, but I am going to go with Lin Manuel Miranda's 2021 film Tick, Tick, Boom, starring Andrew Garfield as Jonathan Larson.

The it's kind of the story of him writing and getting rent done ready or it's it's really like the failed project before he writes rent more so.

And it's based off of like a kind of solo, a solo musical sort of show that Jonathan Larson performed called Tik Tik Boom.

And so this is like Lin Manuel Miranda's like musical version of like adaptation of his it it there's a lot going on with it.

But have you seen this movie?

Have you seen Tick Tick Boom?

I've I've not, it was definitely man, it's definitely a movie that's been on my radar that I want to get around to one of these days.

Love Andrew Barfield, Vanessa Hudgens.

I know she's in and she was a bit of a childhood crush of mine for sure.

Yeah, I don't know.

I will eventually I'll get around to it, but and I've seen some clips of some of the songs and stuff and it looks like it's it's pretty solid.

Yeah, it's really, really great.

It's a lot of lot of fun and it's got some really, really catchy tunes too.

And so yeah, it it's just I wasn't sure if you'd seen it or not, but I just had to take it right here because it's probably the next like non animated one on my list that I like the most.

So yeah, tick, tick, boom.

I mean, you can't go wrong with Lin Manuel Miranda, so.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's my pick.

Where are you going next?

All right, man, you know, there there's just so many choices surprisingly.

But I, but I think I got, I got to honor a real classic at this point, you know, as I said, a musical that I really love and I specifically love the film version of.

And growing up, it was very highly regarded in my household.

I think I got to go with 2004 as the fan of the opera.

OK.

I think I haven't seen that.

I think this is a great like, it's just a great film, like the way it's shot.

It's got that really great gothic vibe to it.

And personally, and this is a good value, very controversial to the real what what, what do you what do you call like musical fans?

Are they music heads or?

I don't know.

Show Tune addicts.

I don't know, you show tuners out there.

Yeah, probably a hot take, but Gerald Butler is my favorite phantom.

I think he sounds great in this movie.

Emily Rosum sings like an Angel.

He also Patrick Wilson in a very in a kind of an earlier role in his career in this movie as as the count Divicont whatever they say in French.

I can't remember, but.

But yeah, it's just a fun.

It's just a really fun musical and yeah, just overall just a really good vibe in this film, I think.

Yeah, I forgot this is directed by Joel Schumacher too, which is kind of interesting.

Yeah, definitely one of his.

I would.

I would assume it's better than Batman and Robin.

It's it's definitely better made.

I mean, Batman and Robin is a fun movie.

Sure, Yeah.

Batman Forever I think is better than Batman and Robin, but they're both.

Oh yeah.

I would agree.

But yeah, I mean, I, I watched Phantom of the Opera for the first time, like the state of filming of the stage production back in March and thought it was incredible.

The performers in that particular recording, like were incredible, like chills, like chill bumps on my skin, incredible on some of the in some parts of the movie or of the performances.

So, yeah, I can see how this would be a good, like there could be a good movie adaptation of it.

Yeah.

So I haven't seen this, but maybe next March, maybe next March, we'll watch this version of it.

Yeah.

And it's, it's interesting, everyone, as far as I know, everyone in the film does their own singing.

I don't think they sang on Saturday except for Mimi Driver, who plays Carlotta, which is very interesting because she she has some very infamous, like very operatic moments.

And so she is dubbed over, but there's actually a song that she sings on the over the end credits.

It's her voice sounds good.

She just couldn't do like the operatic stuff necessary to play Carlotta.

So that is kind of interesting.

But I think it's a great adaptation of the musical and great, great production design too.

Like just recreating kind of the vibe of like, you know, 18th, 3rd, seventeen, 18th, 3rd, 19th century Paris, whenever it's like the 1830s, whatever it is.

So yeah, I recommend that as well.

OK, this is my third pick.

I think I'm going to hold off on animated again.

I have so I have one that's like a off the wall pick that's just like I don't know that it it's it's one of those that I might do on my last pick if I'm feeling like feeling crazy, because it's definitely not going to give me any votes in the poll because I don't think anyone has seen this movie that's going to be voting in these polls.

So I might hold off on that.

I'm going to do 1.

So this is one that I think is I mean, it's it's I'm by picking this, I might be kind of cheating and have being able to do an animated and I still have a Disney movie 2 Disney movies, but this is one that I don't love this, but I do think it's a lot of fun and has a really great lead performance by Amy Adams.

If this is going to tip you off, but I'm going to pick enchanted.

It's a really fun movie, kind of the the classic Princess movie obviously starts off animated for not very long before it's live action.

So I don't think it's an animated movie.

But yeah, I, I enjoyed, I I saw this with my wife years ago.

I had never seen it back when it came out, but I enjoyed it.

I thought it was a lot of fun.

And yeah, has all the things you want from a Princess movie.

And Amy Adams, like, really sells you on that kind of ditzy character.

That's the Princess character that they're kind of playing off of.

So yeah, that's my pick.

OK, great.

OK, think I think for for my my 4th pick here, I think I got to go.

I think, you know, I'm a man of the people.

Yeah, you know for sure.

And I think I think I got to give the people what they want Do it, you know, give it to for for us, for us millennials.

I got a little nostalgia pick for you.

OK, one that, you know, arguably probably isn't a great movie, but kind of following up with you about, you know, having potentially having 2 Disney movies, one of them which being animated, although maybe I'll pick a non Disney animated movie.

But I think we would be remiss if we don't include at least one High School Musical.

OK, I think, I think I got to throw High School Musical in as my 4th pick.

One of those movies that like, you know, if I go back today and watch it, I'm probably going to think it's pretty cheesy.

But some of those songs are great.

I mean.

So here's here's the thing.

This together every once.

Here's the thing, I have never seen any of the high school musicals.

Well, I've never seen them, but I still I still know the words to some of the songs.

It's a cultural.

So there you go.

It was a cultural moment then.

Yeah, I remember when that first one came out, bro.

Every.

I mean, yeah, everyone loved it.

Everyone.

For sure.

And, and I think it was, it was a theatrical release, right?

It wasn't like a Disney Channel movie.

I'm pretty.

Sure.

I don't know.

I think it might have been a it might have been AD com that got a theatrical release because it was so big.

It does say it's a television film, but I mean.

Yeah, it's a it's AD com for sure, but I do think it did get some some theatrical love too.

But yeah, I mean, I was like, I would have been like a sophomore somewhere in there in high school when this movie came out and so.

I was in 6th grade.

Yeah.

And so like I was kind of at that like too, too cool for school age.

So that's probably why I never really watched it.

But and then and now I'm at the point where I'm like, I don't really have any reason to go watch it other than like.

Maybe when your kids a little really.

Wanted to force me to watch it with her so.

Do you know, do you ever, do you ever feel like you have to be careful about what movies you let your kids watch, even if they're age appropriate?

Because then they're going to want to watch it over and over and over again.

Oh no, we just, we don't, we don't do that.

So.

OK, great, great.

If they want to watch it over and over again, it's just like, no, we're not watching that so.

That easy, huh?

We do the same thing.

We do the same thing with music.

Yeah, we're we're not.

We're not a kid controlled family.

We make the decisions because we're the adults.

I don't really understand these families that are like, we had to listen to Baby Shark in the car again.

I'm like, why?

Like aren't you controlling the phone?

I don't really get it personally so.

Turning into a controversial parenting parenting podcast.

This is my podcast so I can stay.

I I didn't, I didn't mean, I didn't mean to.

To hit such a such a nerve there, man.

Oh well.

Man, it's just one of those things that like, I'm always like, but why, why your kids control it?

I don't know.

But my, our kids aren't like the only thing they want to watch over and over again is Bluey.

And I'm kind of OK with that.

Like it's because they're like 8 minute episodes and I can be like, OK, just two Blueys and then, you know, we're done.

So we we we limit the screen time with our.

Kids straight to bed with you.

Oh, no, we're not watching Blueies right before bed.

No way.

Ain't no way.

And never go to sleep.

Yeah, man, that was quite the Bunny trail.

I've got to make another pic.

I'm going to go ahead.

It's I guess it's time for the animated movie.

And I did.

So I saved it for this long because I did do some like some a little bit of research, scrolling down the people that have logged this movie and saw that you did not have it quite highly rated enough for me to think that you're going to take it.

But this is one of my favorite Disney movies just all time.

I'm going to go with Moana.

I love Moana.

I don't know just the the kind of like theme of this calling that's higher than you and you know, kind of not knowing what to do with being confused by that calling and not knowing what to do with it.

Like her kind of big moment, like epiphany moment always kind of makes me like tear up a little bit.

And then you get you get the rock like rapping badly too.

So there's that.

That's true.

That's a lot of fun.

I love Moana.

I think it's a great movie and it's a musical.

It's a just kind of the classic Disney Princess musical.

So I have my Enchanted and I have my Moana so.

Fair enough.

I think I'm set now to take kind of whatever weird movie I want to take for my last pic so.

That's true.

That's true.

You definitely can.

You don't have to take an animated one, but I guess.

You're right, You're right.

I mean, I mean, there, there, there are some animated movies I can think of that I would want to include.

But I'm like, really, I'm trying to think if like there's another like live action film that I want to throw in there because there are some really great live action and like we can only have so many.

I have two.

More that I would want to pick.

There's definitely one.

Between those two.

There's definitely one that I would love to pick, but it is technically against the ground rules that we set, so Oh no, I can't, I can't.

What would it be?

Well, I'll have to wait for the honorable bench for that.

So because because it it is, it is technically against the ground rules.

But I do think I want to do an animated movie and as as well as as easily as I could go to a Disney animated movie.

There's one animated movie that is a musical, has musical numbers in it that I feel really connected to more than pretty much any Disney movie that came out kind of during the era that we're sticking to that I watched a lot as a kid and I think has some great songs from the ever talented Elton John.

OK.

I think I need to go with DreamWorks.

The Road to El Dorado, 2000.

Oh, I double checked the date.

I double checked the date.

Yeah, your 2000.

Huge nostalgia hit for me.

Big childhood favorite.

I mean, you got Jeff Goldblum, Kevin Kline playing the two main characters playing off each other.

So well, there are not only is there, I mean, there are musical numbers that they perform, but there's also the original musical moments that Elton John performs.

So maybe, I don't know, maybe it's a little bit on the fence and if you could consider it a true musical, but I think that's my animate.

I honestly it's been I've seen the movie for sure and I remember it.

I can picture like the characters.

It's a couple really great memes.

Any of the songs.

Like both, both as good.

Classic meme.

Yeah, yeah.

I couldn't tell you like if, if there's enough songs or whatever.

Oh, it's like it's good to be a God.

Well, there you go.

That one or like, friends never say goodbye.

I mean, this is how much I watched it as a kid.

I remember.

Yeah, friends never say goodbye.

Oh, there you go.

It's a good one.

The Road to El Dorado, a classic DreamWorks animated movie.

And you know what I'm realizing now?

You know what I'm realizing?

I made the wrong choice for animated.

I should have picked a different DreamWorks movie.

Also that probably.

A couple.

There's a couple of Disney movies I could have thrown in.

Probably more than.

One, I do think, I do think our lists are very interesting because I feel like and did you, did you grow up watching musicals or not really?

Not really.

So I think.

It's interesting stuff.

Not really when you look at.

Our lists, when you look at our lists, I think most of my picks are very like much more traditional musicals and a lot of what you've picked are very like kind of newer.

Modern.

Modernized versions of musicals, because even it, even though some of the picks I have are like modern versions of musicals that have been running for a long time, they're they're very traditionally like filmed and like they feel like a stage musical put on film, whereas like you know, things like La La Land or Tick Tick Boom or or even like Enchanted or much enchanted.

Yeah.

Modernized and like their approach to the film.

They're very much more of the born out of the 21st century.

Yeah.

And your your list is like, is OK, let's in the 21st century see how we can, like, accomplish this classic on screen sort of thing.

Yeah.

I don't.

I don't know when Sweeney Todd was written and.

It's definitely.

It's not like that old but.

No, it's definitely, it means it definitely was around before that film version came.

Out.

Oh yeah, it it's not as old as like Les Mis and Phantom.

Well, Phantom of the Opera would have been.

The opera's like at least the East.

No, I think.

It's, I'm pretty sure Sadie's.

Yeah, I like the original, probably production in the 80s.

But yeah, I I definitely see that.

The stage musical came out in 1976.

So yeah, there.

You go Sweeney Todd was Sweeney Todd premiered in 1979.

OK, so it's even older now.

Oh.

Stephen Sondheim.

There you go.

I didn't even know that he did the loose Stephen Hahn and Sondenheim and the the booklet the the what was the thing libretto.

The libretto is written by Hugh Wheeler.

OK.

There you go.

And apparently the character Sweeney Todd first appeared in a penny dreadful titled The String of Pearls.

So interesting.

It's also apparently.

Based learning things.

It's like a whole, it's like apparently a lot of layers for how this this, this movie came about.

But yeah, so 1979, that's a way older than I was expecting.

Yeah, me too.

Yeah, OK, I'm going to stick with my born out of the 21st century theme with this last one.

This this last one, you know.

Do with it what you will.

Going to be the the.

This is literally going to be the reject modernity embrace tradition poll of 1st century.

It is going to be, it is this is going to be fun to see where people go and what they're voting.

So OK, the I'm going to pick the 2020, another 2021 film by Leos Carrix called Annette starring Adam Driver and Marion Marion Cotillard.

Have you heard, have you even heard of this movie?

Do you know of this movie?

It is.

It is a musical.

I'm just going to read the letterbox description because I'm not going to do it justice if I try to explain this movie.

The story of Henry, a stand up comedian with a fierce sense of humor, and Anne, a singer of international renown, in the spotlight.

They are the perfect cuff, healthy, happy and glamorous.

The birth of their first child, Annette, a mysterious girl with an exceptional destiny, will change their lives.

This is a really weird movie.

The poster looks insane.

It's like the two of them dancing like a wave.

Yes, OK.

Yes.

It's a really weird movie.

Adam Driver.

Not the best singer out there, but he's he's fine for what the movie.

The movie is just kind of like very strange and weird.

Lias Carricks is a French born director.

His movies aren't necessarily like in French.

He has like this is an example of that.

So he's a French born director.

So he's got the the French kind of weird sentimentality going going for him with this movie.

I don't think this is a huge spoiler because like it's, it's like early on, like you learn what is mysterious and weird about the daughter that they have, that they're that they bear, she's a puppet.

They their baby is a puppet.

So it's weird, and so it's.

I was interested and now I'm intrigued.

Now you're really interested.

Adam Driver is doing his kind of like angry Adam Driver thing through the movie.

Marion Cotillard is really good the the song.

Here's the other thing that kind of probably led me to like this movie more was I saw the Edgar Wright documentary The Sparks Brothers shortly before I saw this movie and they wrote the music for it.

And so like the songs are kind of like these strange, weird Sparks.

Sparks the band, the band called Sparks kind of style things, but in a written in still like a very like musical form.

But yeah, it's it's a very strange movie, one of those that like you watch and you're like, what in the world is going on?

And then also like Adam drivers very angry and he Can't Sing good, but it's good enough for what this is.

And then also like has a couple of moments that are actually like very touching and moving that are unexpected.

And so I really love a movie, you know, whether it's a musical or not, that like can unexpectedly kind of like sweep you away in the motion.

And so I got all of that from this movie.

And then I just like movies that are like weird and doing something different and strange because I watch a lot of movies and you end up seeing a lot of the same sorts of stuff.

And it's not necessarily a bad thing.

But when you do see a movie that's like, oh, that's very different.

Like I kind of like end up liking those more than a lot of people might just because they're so strange and different.

So yeah, Annette is my last pick and it's very much a 21st century musical movie, so all.

Right, there we go.

There we go.

All right, the movie that I did not pick that I love is John Carney's movie Sing St.

Have you seen Sing St.

I heard of it, but I haven't.

You love it.

It's very like, I mean it's a it's a kid who meets a girl that's a little bit older and tells her he's in a band.

So then he has to start a band with his friends and they write music and the music they write, they do like they record music videos with her and they perform at a school dance.

But there's like there to me, the songs that they're writing are like are kind of like in this the correct sensibility for a musical.

It's kind of like what he's going through with like trying to get the girl or like kind of like a regretting the decision you made that like, you know, it's all the songs are like born out of that sort sort of sensibility.

And then there are some like there are some that are just like them shooting music video or them, you know, performing it.

But then there's also moments of like you're doing some cross cutting between them performing it at like on stage and like the girl and her like dealing with whatever she's dealing with with something else.

And the music is speaking to both situations.

And so, like, to me, it feels like, yeah, it yeah.

It's not like the traditional way you would think of a musical, but to me, it fits.

But you know, my wife says no.

Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of movies like I like, like for instance, like I was looking at the list on Wikipedia and it says the Crunchy stole Christmas.

It says it's a musical.

And I'm like, which one?

There's like the two the the Jim Carrey one.

There's like 1 actual song in that movie.

No Sing St.

has like 5 or 6 original songs.

Yeah, written for one.

Movie.

You know, one movie that's on here that I, I thought about picking, but I haven't actually seen it.

So then I kind of can't pick it.

One musical of sorts that I've always wanted to see and it's always, it's still a blind spot for me.

Is 8 Mile never gone around to see Eight Mile?

How do I don't know if that's a musical?

I haven't.

Seen either I think.

I think is it might be I mean, I think it's actually more of a biopic than than a musical biopic.

So, you know, because there's quite a few really, I guess we're kind of getting the honorable mentions here.

And then honorable mention another great animated honorable mention, Jonah, a Veggie Tales movie.

Little, little, little, little throw out for you.

The one that I definitely would have picked if we had said if we had not said no jukebox musicals.

Another favorite one that I used to watch all the time when we were younger, we had on DVD Moulin Rouge.

OK, love that one.

Love that one, but it's it's a it's technically a jukebox musical.

Is it really OK?

It is, it is.

I have a lot of these.

Most, most of the songs they sing are not, they're like, there's like Elton John songs and like a bunch of other stuff like like, you know, so like.

Across the universe.

Across the universe.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like Lady Marmalade is is not original.

You know, diamonds are forever.

Diamonds are a girl's best friend.

Not our original, you know, even like the we could be heroes just for one day.

That's Elton John song.

Yeah.

So there's, there's a lot of that kind of stuff in there.

You know, I think another one that I I've seen more recently that I thought was really, really funny is Tenacious D and The Pick of Destiny.

Yeah, I forgot about that movie.

That I I thought it was hilarious.

Little, little crude, but I mean, it is Jack, yeah.

So I don't remember hardly anything about that, but I definitely watched that in high school for sure because I I loved Tenacious D when I was in high school.

Yeah, I'm.

Just kind of, I'm just kind of going through the list here trying to see some other ones that stick out to me that I'm like, oh, people should definitely.

So another one that I was was either going to pick Annette, which I did or this movie, but I didn't want to pick another Lin Manuel Miranda cuz I already had tik tik boom in Moana.

But in the heights is really good.

It's not directed by it's directed by John M2, but it is a Lin Manuel Miranda stage play and it's very, very good.

If you if you haven't seen it, Anthony Ramos is great.

If we're sticking to like kind of sticking with the 21st century, I will say I would say it's kind of in the same vein of like Sweeney Todd where it's kind of like got some horror aspects to it, but it's way weirder.

It's a very weird movie, but I like, if you like a rock opera, Repo, the Genetic Opera.

Very weird.

Never.

Heard of it?

It's it's set in the the near future and it's about this guy who is the repo man and by repo he, he repossesses organs from people who can't pay the company for their, their, their organ replacements.

Gotcha.

And yeah, it's a rock opera.

It's a very weird movie.

Paris Hilton's like in it.

Like she plays like the daughter of the main of like the guy who like runs the corporation.

Yeah.

There's some weird stuff in there.

Sarah Brightman, who is the original Christine Dyer from from Phantom of the Opera.

She's in it and a kind of a smaller role, as well as the girl from Spy Kids.

OK.

Yeah, yeah.

She's she's like the daughter of the repo man in the movie.

There's a lot of singing in it that's not like the best, but it's it's again, it's just kind of like a weird like you either like the vibe or you don't like the vibe.

I don't, I'm not including this in the honorable mentions, but I will say one movie on this list that I still have not gone around to watching and Myrna and I have talked about wanting to watch it together.

Amelia Perez.

Yeah, that is amazing.

I've seen seen nothing but the clips that have been out there.

And it is like, it is the biggest train wreck I have ever seen in my life.

Especially because Myrna was talking about how like, specifically Selena Gomez, like, she's like speaking and singing in Spanish.

And she's like, yeah, like myself and like a lot of my friends, like we've seen the clips of her singing.

We have no idea what she's saying because she doesn't pronounce anything correctly because even though she's she's Hispanic, she she apparently didn't go up speaking in Spanish.

So.

Yeah, it's.

I want to include it on the list, but it is one that I'm intrigued to watch the entirety of to see if it is as bad as it seems to be.

I'll say this, Zoe Saldana still love her.

She's I won't say she's great in the movie because just the material I just think is really bad with what she has to work with.

Like all props to to Zoe Saldana.

She's she's great, you know, But yeah, I yeah, we do.

I mean we can do my SO.

I think with ready player one, we did a what was the we didn't motion capture performances draft and I think we did a dishonorable mention also.

So you can I might have to put that as my dishonorable mention.

But another one I watched recently that I just like it did not work for me.

Was I watched Chicago to prep for this because I felt like I should watch the another one that's won best picture?

OK.

I just, it didn't like go for it.

Not really.

I didn't like the story.

The singing was, I mean, the singing is good.

The filmmaking choices are fine, but I don't know, it's kind of bland to me.

It's like to me, it's like the flashiness of like the the colors and the costumes and like the kind of burlesque style like performances are like they to me, they're just like, I don't know, frosting on the most bland thing you've ever.

Put in your mouth, but John C Reilly performing Mr.

John C Reilly's scene is.

Like the best thing in the movie.

Yeah, it is.

I would.

I would agree.

It's been a long time since I've seen it, so I don't necessarily have a strong opinion on it.

Yeah.

I just didn't go for it.

I don't.

I had a hard time seeing like why so many people really go for it.

But yeah, I mean, it's got a four point O on letterbox.

So like it's probably a me problem but just did not work for me.

So that would be my dishonorable mention along with Amelia Perez.

OK.

I don't.

I do have a few more honourables if you want me to go through those.

I was going to say I don't really know if I have a dishonorable mention because I I don't think there's ever been a, a musical.

Like I don't think I've ever like watched a musical of the ones that I've seen.

And I'm like, Oh, I hated that.

Like there's definitely a lot that like like I've never watched any of the pitches.

No, I I don't, I wouldn't like those movies.

I know I wouldn't like the pitch perfect films.

So I've never seen.

The first film.

Oh, no honorable mention.

Well, let me hear your honorable mentions before this.

Yeah, OK, honorable mention.

I didn't I didn't go for the the new wicked like a lot of people did, but it is still like it is still like enjoyable with some great, really great vocal performances.

And I think Ariana Grande is actually like really great in it if she was to be the best part of the movie.

So I've I'll shout it out the what year 2011 The Muppets.

I have fond memories of that movie with Jason Segel and Amy Adams.

Just, you know, I really like The Muppets and so I have fond memories of seeing that.

And then my last one is the the animated movie that I thought of too late that I should have taken instead of Moana, but I'll give my animated honorable mention here and that is the Prince of Egypt.

How did we not take the Prince?

Of Egypt.

That's not a 21st century though, It's 1990s, true.

That's why I didn't.

Take it.

I almost thought about it, but I was like, no, that's the 90s.

It doesn't.

That's.

True.

That's why.

That's why it was not on my radar.

Well, I'm good.

I'm good to go then.

Yes, otherwise I definitely would have taken that as my.

Animation Well, I'll do it.

I'll do a different animated honorable mention then, because I feel like I should do at least one.

We already mentioned K pop demon hunters.

It's kind of like on the edge of like how much of A musical it is.

But but I think it is a musical animated music.

They literally released a sing along version in theaters.

Yeah, how it would be between that and Tangled, I think OK, too great.

Tangled I really love.

And then yeah, K pop Demon hunters.

It's.

I also say.

You really should see it, it's really good.

I want to check it out.

I I would say I think the two the two biggest more recent like Disney musicals that we overlooked Coco.

See, I don't think Coco is really a musical, OK?

I haven't seen it in quite some time, so.

There's like, I know there's some.

Music in it.

Yeah, there's music in it, but it's not like none of none of them are like really about what's going on in the the moment or anything.

They're just like performances of songs.

The one that definitely is a musical and even though most of the music is kind of annoying but I have to give it its props because the ending didn't make me cry.

Actually Encanta.

Yeah, it's a great movie, I think.

Really good.

The the ending when Mirabelle finally gets recognized and yeah, for for the person that she is.

Like that kind of thing always gets me.

Like same thing with like Walter Mitty, right?

Just makes me up every time.

People are going to get mad at us for not mentioning Frozen, so I'll at least like, mention it.

I've never watched it.

I refuse.

It's fine.

So I guess so kind of as we're kind of wrapping things up here, I, I do have a question to, to kind of to kind of sum things up.

Let's do it.

OK, what is 1 non musical film that you think would work as a musical?

And we can even say, what's a 21st century film that you think would?

Work.

It's a 1st century one, OK.

Let's just stay on theme.

Let's stay on theme.

OK, let's see.

I'm going to go with, OK, can we include 1999?

How cool, how fun would it be if someone could pull off a musical of the Matrix?

That'd be pretty sick.

What would be awesome, right?

What would give me give me 3 show tune titles from The Matrix the Musical?

OK, One would be 1 would be called Mr.

Anderson and it would be OK, It would be the Agent Smith leading that one.

You know you would have.

Anderson, You're a very naughty man, Mr.

Anderson.

Things are getting out of hand, Mr.

Anderson.

Oh man, OK.

Now I want to write it.

Then you would have, then you would have.

OK, that was the only one I had like out of pocket.

Just off the top of my head, the name of the song.

I think you'd have to call.

I mean, one song would have to be called.

There is no spoon.

Yeah, OK.

And then think, I think you'd have to have something with like a glitch, like a glitch in the Matrix.

There'd have to be some sort of song there.

Or maybe there would definitely be a song like the Morpheus, the like classic Morpheus training Neo for the first time.

I'm just not sure what the name of the song would be for that one, but.

OK, interesting.

OK.

Yeah, that that would be really fun.

I kind of cheated a little bit.

It's all right for the sake of the exercise, it's allowed.

What was your?

Did you have one?

I I did, I think the first one that came to mind and I don't know why but I just think this would be really fun is I don't know, I just instantly thought of Inglorious Basterds.

OK.

Like, like I see it.

Yeah.

Like, I don't know.

I mean, you could do you could do, you know, Red Carpet for Hitler could be one of the songs.

I don't know.

I don't know, like, like, like I'm in like a scene like a West Side Story of all, like The Jets together, like singing together.

But it's like out of rain and his guys talking about how we're going to put out a red carpet for Hitler, but he's going to die.

You know what I don't know?

I think it would be, I think you could just go like the reverse of frozen and instead of let it go, it'd be let it burn, you know?

Yeah, there you go.

I would say, I would say that that'd be like the closing, that'd be like one of the, the closing act opening, opening song.

I'm trying to think of, I'm trying to think of like what a good opening track would be like.

Like what?

What's a song that you could have at the beginning, like enemies of enemies of the state in your floorboards, you know?

Yeah, cause 'cause there's the thing about musicals, a lot of times the songs are named after something that's said in the song.

So.

So.

I think it would.

Who's in your floor?

Have a glass of milk.

Yes.

Who is that in your floorboards?

I hear them rustling underneath.

Who is that in your floorboards?

OK, here's OK, here's another one.

I have one song title for this one.

This is actually a 21st century movie, Mad Max Fury Road.

And there will be a Nicholas Holt song called What a What a Glorious Day.

Yes, I love it there we.

Go.

That's the.

That's the one.

Dude, Oppenheimer in the musical.

I don't know if I'm feeling feeling that one, but definitely.

I'm I'm feeling, maybe I'm.

Feeling Nicholas Holt as nuts singing.

What a glorious day.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that one.

I don't know.

I think, I think it's, I think any, any movie could be a musical.

But could it work as a musical?

I don't know.

But I, I think that's very erode.

Yeah, that would be pretty sick.

I think that's a good exercise for, for your, for the listeners out there when they listen to this episode is you know what, what, what would be a 21st century movie that you think could be turned into a musical?

Yeah, I'd like to see a Wes Anderson movie as a musical, too.

I thought I heard that he was doing 1.

I don't know.

I haven't heard.

That maybe maybe I'm crazy.

Maybe I'm crazy.

Let's see here I.

Think The Life Aquatic would make a good one, But it would, yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah, I don't.

Maybe not.

I thought, I, I thought I heard a while back his next movie was going to be a musical.

But I mean, he's he's he's right there.

I think he would kill a musical for sure.

He'd he'd do great.

Oh man, well that was fun.

I should probably read our final results real quick before we close out.

Our final results were JP ended with Les Miserables, Sweeney Todd, The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, the 2004, The Phantom of the Opera, High School Musical, and The Road to El Dorado as his animated choice.

I ended up with La La Land, Tick Tick Boom Enchanted Moana as my animated choice, and Annette, a film that nobody has seen and will earn me no votes.

So yeah, I think we got some good lists going here.

I think we have some big ones that people will be mad at us for, like Wicked and The Greatest Showman.

But you know, we can take.

The oh, the Greatest Showman wasn't going in my list.

I already said that so.

Same but but people do love that one so we'll definitely get some hate.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that's fine.

We'll take it.

I was impressed, in fact.

You know what, You know what, you know what?

I disliked that movie so much.

I just remember this.

If I had a dishonorable mention, it would be that.

Oh yes, there we go.

We're.

Going to end on that.

J PS Disciples.

I don't like that.

Mcphee's dishonorable mention The greatest showman.

You heard it.

Mostly because PT Barnum was a terrible person in real life so.

Yeah, jp.boudreau@gmail.com.

That's not a his actual e-mail, so don't bombard that person.

Right.

Give him, give him the wrong.

One, All right, let's listen with that.

Next week we will be jumping into the last Spielberg field as of now with the Fable Men's and yeah, looking forward to that.

And if you haven't listened to our conversation last week on West Side Story, make sure you do that.

And yeah, and also go back to the beginning of that episode to hear about what JP has been up to, projects he's working on and stuff.

So do that.

And yeah, follow him on Instagram and Letterboxed.

I'll link those in the episode description.

That's all we have for this week.

I've been Eli Price for JP Boudreau.

You've been listening to the establishing shot.

We will see you next time.

We were happy here for a little while, but look, I think it.

Was.

This way.