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Director's Debut Feature Film Draft (w/ Haydn Fabre)

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It wasn't closely.

What's the secret thing?

Just got to find something you love to do and then do it for the rest of your life.

I don't want to be a product of my environment, I want my environment to be a product of me.

Hello, and welcome to the Establishing Shot podcast.

Where we do deep dives into directors.

In their filmographies.

I am your host, Eli Price, and we are here on episode 116 of the podcast.

Yeah.

We are.

Last week we finished up the last film of Spielberg so far.

Hopefully going to see another one from him next year.

But yeah, we did the fave woman's last week.

Next week we're going to be doing wrapping up the Spielberg series with a epilogue episode.

I'm going to reflect on the whole series, the whole long Spielberg series.

So we're going to do that next week.

But this week I thought it would be kind of, I guess, a little bit ironic and fun to to go back and do a sort of rerun of old movie draft.

As you may know if you've been a listener for a while, movie drafts used to be contained in the same episode as the films we were covering.

And we don't do that anymore.

Way back on episode, I believe 17 of the show with when we covered following the first film of Christopher Nolan, we did a draft of debut feature films for directors.

So their first feature film of a director.

I think our stipulations were that there had to be 3 or more films by that direct or more than three films by that director.

So they might hear you might be wondering where a few are.

For instance, Jordan Peele only has three feature films, so the Get Out was not an option, for instance.

But yeah, we're I'm going to throw it to that episode.

I thought it'd be fun to, at the end of this series, go and talk about debut films because next week we're going to be going back to Spielberg's beginning and talking about his whole career, reflecting on it.

So that's what is in store for you.

My guest for that episode was one of my good friends, Hayden Fob.

We had a good time.

So I hope you enjoy this draft.

We're gonna move on to our movie draft because this is that's what the people want.

The people want the drafts.

They want the draft.

Yeah, I can.

I can't scream because I have like a baby asleep a room over so.

I'm home alone and there's a young, young couple next door.

They're, they're, they're definitely still awake as we're

recording this at 9

recording this at 9:00, at 10:15 at night.

So it's fine, yeah.

Yeah, it's fine.

No big deal.

Yeah, yeah, movie draft, just draft time I'm.

Draft time.

So here's what we're doing if, well, if this is your first time listening to a movie draft, here's how it works.

We pick a category of some sort to of movies to draft from, and we take turns picking films from that category to be on our film team, if you will.

And yeah, the goal is to build the best team.

So that one when I put the poll on social media that I win because I drift drafted the best team, Yeah, yeah, we'll see.

Naturally.

But yeah, this is a OK, so this is our third draft together.

So I think it's back to you picking first.

You picked first the first time, I picked first the second time.

Now it's back to you.

You get the first pick.

Now I'm nervous.

Yeah, I do have.

I do have a new sound.

When yet Whenever you're ready to make your pick, just let me know.

All right, I'm going to use the same strategy that I always use in this draft.

All right, here we.

Go no strategy with the first pick I'm going to take what's that in the American moviegoers minds as quite possibly the greatest film all time until it was dethroned.

It's one of the recent sight and sound news.

I'm going to take worse and well to Citizen Kane.

Yes, I mentioned it earlier.

I was wondering if that was on your radar.

But yeah, Citizen Kane, great first.

Pick I, I did not know that that was a debut, which is just it's.

Incredible.

Yeah.

It is mind boggling that he's just like right out of the gate Home run.

Best film ever made?

Yes.

I don't understand.

I don't either, but.

Yeah, well, you can watch Mank and find out.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I can watch.

Was that Fincher?

Was that right?

Yeah, David.

Fincher it was OK.

One of Fincher's lower tiers.

But yeah, there's the story it.

Was fine.

You know it was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean great, great pick.

I mean I think that is probably should be like the one O 1 for this category.

Yeah, I think it's a pretty safe bet.

Yeah, I'm going in, man.

It's one of those things like, man, I always run into this problem of my favorite ones or maybe ones that aren't gonna win, win me the draft.

But I also still want to pick my favorite ones.

I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna follow suit and not pick a couple of my favorite ones and pick a more classic 1.

And I'm gonna go with Cindy Lumet's debut in 12 Angry Men.

Have you ever seen 12 Angry Men?

I have not.

That's one of the ones that.

Great.

Movie, I know I need to see it.

I know it's it's one of the ones where I was.

I was like, I'm not gonna tell you that I haven't seen it and refused to pick it because I haven't seen it.

Because then you just pick it as your last spot and that would make me sad.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

You don't want to reveal movies you haven't seen because that happened.

That happened actually the last week for the last draft.

JP kind of let slip that he had only seen a one particular film from a director.

And I was like, Oh yeah, I can save this one for last in the draft then.

Man, that's tough.

Yeah, that's tough.

Yeah, you never know what what I'll be thinking when we're talking through movies in the in the first segment, so watch out.

Yeah, I forgot to hit the sound for myself.

I'm going to hit it post.

I'm going to say it again with the second pick, I'm choosing 12 Angry Men.

OK, that was pretty fun.

All 12 of them.

Yeah, all 12 of the men, particularly Henry Fonda.

Great.

I am Fonda.

Henry Fonda.

Oh yeah.

Spicy.

Yeah.

All right, sound me.

You ready?

Yes.

With the 3rd pick, I'm going to select a film that heavily inspired the film that we discussed today with Quentin Tarantino's debut masterpiece, Reservoir Dogs.

Relevoir dogs, man, that's the dogs.

Of the reservoir.

Man, you're off to a strong start.

I know you've got me kind of shaking in my boots, to be honest.

I'm feeling good, but there's still like two or three more that I saw on my on my lists that I was looking through that I had not seen that make me really nervous.

Oh man, yeah, yeah, man, Reservoir Dogs is a good pick.

It's actually, I'm not like super high on Reservoir Dogs.

I think it's good, but it's it's like it's probably my least favorite Tarantino, which I know other people like.

It's like they love it but but.

It's kind of like, it's kind of like a low tier Wes Anderson.

Yeah, still 4 star even though it's not personal favorite.

My reason I love Reservoir Dogs is because if there's any nerds listening to this podcast, I have a deep appreciation and love for the classic Japanese manga and anime One Piece.

And Sanji is one of the characters that just kicks people the whole time.

And he's based on Steve bushing.

His character, Mr.

Pink, I believe is what was from Reservoir Dogs.

So yeah.

The kicking is yeah.

One piece, I don't know, I don't know that he actually kicks anybody, but he's like, yeah, wears a suit, smokes a cigarette the whole time.

So it's.

Yeah, yeah.

Who is it?

Is it Songko and Memories of Murder?

Pong Jing Ho's movie that's just like drop kicking people the whole movie.

Golly the whole movie dude they crop kick so many people in that film.

Like man in the in the Korean BBQ just like taking people out.

Awesome.

For sure.

Just taking people out.

Yeah, OK.

I shouldn't mention I forgot to to lay down one of the rules that we decided on people.

Are probably thinking.

Yeah.

They're like.

Why didn't you take Lady Bird by Greta Gerwig?

Why didn't you take Get Out by Jordan Peele?

And that's because we we kind of decided arbitrarily that the director needed to have more than three films.

I don't know why.

I guess like my reasoning behind that was just like, you need to be able to because like the whole point of this is like, well, we're we're talking about Christopher Nolan's first film and how like it's influenced, you know, his career like and shown.

But like, if like you're only three movies in, it's kind of like hard to see that sometimes.

And like, I don't know, it's, it is very arbitrary, but I'll, I was like, well, let's let's kind of cut out some of the people to make this a little more interesting.

So yeah, yeah.

There's there's some that like, there's some on my list that are like that I absolutely love.

Like After Sun from last year by Charlotte Wells, I absolutely loved.

But that's her only movie.

So.

Yeah, it's.

Another, another couple of notable ones, Hereditary Ari Astor was removed.

The witch Rodriger.

Is that one?

That one, Yeah.

Hurt.

You know what other one Synecdoche, New York not?

Draftable did Kaufner, Kaufman directed.

Yep.

3 Synecdoche New York, Anomalisa.

And I'm thinking of any things or there's only three directorial efforts.

Yeah.

Wow, yeah, I was looking at.

I was like, man, no.

No.

Well, that's one of the ones that I hadn't seen, so now it makes me happy that you can't draft that one.

Can't even draft it.

Yeah.

OK, so let's backtrack a little bit since we had to take that aside to clarify the rules.

Yes, Citizen Kane went first to Hayden.

Then I take 12 Angry Men, all 12 of them.

And then Hayden took all of the reservoir dogs, the dogs in the reservoir.

So yeah, I'm it's a fourth overall pick, my second pick.

The sound The sound Don't forget the sound, the.

4th overall pick of the Director's first features draft.

I'm selecting Michael Mann's Thief.

Wonderful pick that was on my list.

Great.

And just a great man, man.

Just a thief.

Fun.

Movie.

What a film, right?

Oh yeah, I could do everything.

I could watch those like close-ups of someone like welding something for like welding through a safe like sparks flying like.

Oh yeah.

That in the in the movie theater.

You know what I mean?

James Caan.

Just a joy.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, James Caan, just like wreaking havoc up in those banks, you know what I'm saying?

Like, that's what I want to see.

Oh yeah, man, it's a good movie.

I actually watched that like probably less than a year ago for the first time.

I was like, man, what a great start to a career thief.

Anyways, that was my pick.

I have other ones that I like more, but yeah, I felt like that was a good get me back in the in the competition kind of pick.

That's a That's a great pick.

That was definitely on my list for sure.

Are you ready?

I think so.

With the 5th pick.

I'm going to take a Frenchman's English film, I'm going to take Frant Derebalms.

The Shawshank Redemption.

I was not aware that it was a redemption debut, but it was filled.

In with jewelry.

Whenever I saw that you've.

Got that.

Wasn't even on my list because I didn't even realize that was an option.

And then I was trying to count his films to make sure because I I frankly have not.

I'm not familiar with Frank Darreal.

Yeah, yes, right, Parabon.

Yep, yes.

I mean, the Green Mile is obviously like when I've heard of the Mist.

I'm pretty sure I've seen it.

It's really fun and it's really messed up.

Gotcha, but I have not heard of Mob City.

That was a TV check.

I've not heard of the Majestic.

It's not on my list.

Totally missed it.

Just totally missed it.

My research failed me, man.

Yeah, gosh, I'm so I'm falling behind on this one.

I'm not going to even be able to pick like my my personal favorites.

How many are we going?

Are we going?

Let's just see how it goes because I know your list is very limited.

Well, you know.

We'll pick at least 5 each, I think.

OK, great.

Let's see if we can get to 7.

I like the seven number.

I think that's a good right as well.

I just like it.

OK man, How do I stay in this?

I feel like I'm falling behind.

I might just end up having to like pick my favorites and just like let it be what it is at this point.

Just have.

Fun with it.

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and go with you know what?

I'm gonna go with one of my favorite ones just to be safe.

Just in case you have this on the back burner, I'm going with Brad Bird's The Iron Giant.

Great pick, I love.

The Iron Giant.

Just a such a wonderful film.

It's such a good movie man, and it gets me every time.

Like dude, that man robot himself, just like the Iron Giant dude sacrificing himself like oh man.

Oh yeah, so it's powerful.

Brad Bird and he's had a good career man.

Ratatouille, both Incredibles movies.

Wow.

And then even Ghost protocol, did you know he directed Ghost Protocol?

I did not know he directed ghost protocol.

That's it's.

Impossible ghost protocol, Brad Bird and Tomorrowland but that was I never saw it but really bad reviews.

I heard it.

Yeah.

I heard it wasn't the best.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But yeah, the Iron Giant, I feel like if anything could get me back on the race, it's maybe the Iron Giant.

But yeah.

They'll strike some, they'll strike some some dads that have shown that movie and have fond memories with their kids and.

All right, Yeah, your pick is up.

With the 7th pick of the directorial debut film draft, I'm going to take Spike Jones's first feature film in Being John Malkovich.

Great pick.

I've definitely high up.

High up on my list for sure, yeah.

It's just a ton of fun.

It's super unique.

The film style is just so interesting.

Spike Jones has had such a unique career.

Yeah, just, he's just made some really fun stuff.

He's got a comfy spot in my heart.

And Being John Malkovich, I I actually hadn't seen it and it was recommended so highly by a friend that I purchased a Criterion copy before even seeing the film and then firing it up.

I remember finishing watching it with my wife and I was like holy crap I can't believe movies like that exist.

This is so fun.

And she was like a wild.

Weird.

Why was it in news years?

Weird.

Why were they in his head?

Why were those scenes included?

And I was like, don't, don't worry about it.

Malkovich scene.

And if you've seen Being John Malkovich, when I say the Malkovich scene, you know what?

I'm exactly what I'm talking about.

Yes.

Yes, like, what a wild, what a wild sequence that is.

Yeah.

Oh man, yeah.

And just what was it?

My brain's the tunnel.

Was really disgusting too.

It's so gross.

It's almost like fleshy.

Yeah.

And what's a Cameron Diaz, man?

It's just, like, so fun.

Like, oh, yeah.

She's not playing on the, like, overly attractive characters.

She's like, the one that is getting her man stolen.

And that's just the fun dynamic there to see her in it.

I just, yeah, big fan of being John Alkowich.

Yeah, great pick.

All right, with the 8th pick of the draft, I'm going with This is Spinal Tap.

Oh, yes.

Great movie, dude.

I love it.

It's so funny.

So fun.

Yeah, This Is Spinal Tap, directed by Rob Reiner, went on to direct things such as When Harry Met Sally, Stand By Me, The Princess Bride, A Few Good Men, some really good movies, actually.

A hilarious start to an absolute incredible brand of movies.

Yeah, This is Spinal Tap is one that like has a Criterion disc, but it's like it's not being printed anymore for some reason, which is really sad because I would love to to have that.

Yeah, well, I know that's a very important movie to you.

I've heard you talk about it all the time.

Well, it's like this is Spinal Tap.

If for those people who have not seen this movie, it is a 19 mockumentary about this like hell hair metal group and they're on tour.

They're the name of the band is the fictional band is This is Spinal.

The name of the fictional band is Spinal Tap.

Yeah, it's, it's a mockumentary.

And like the genius, like the genius of it is they create these like scene scenarios and like probably like 8090% of the dialogue is like improvised, Like they come up with this concept for the scene and then like the two leads just like improvise all of these lines.

And it's a mockumentary about this like brand band and the drama in the band.

It's really actually absolutely hilarious and kind of like sparks the mockumentary style of like film and TV really like before the Office was even like conceived of This was Spinal Tap was was out there in the world making people laugh.

Yeah, that's my, that's my pick.

So you're up again.

Make sure that this next pick that I want is.

Oh, I hit the sound too early.

Hold on, let me just want to I I just want to make sure that I don't break any rules.

OK.

OK, I'm not gonna make, I'm not gonna break the rules, OK?

Could I hit it again?

Hit it one more time in Trouble.

Let's go with the 9th pick and my 5th pick.

I'm going to take Alex Garland's directorial debut and a film that I love very deeply, Ex Machina.

Ex Machina, Does he have more than three?

He's got.

No, he doesn't.

He's not credited for one of them.

I'm so sorry.

Run it back, run it back, run it back.

He's not credited for one.

Fine, I'll take a me pick.

You took a you pick.

I take a me pick and my P me pick is going to be a film that I picked in the last draft because I just love this film and I'm going to just keep picking it as often as I can.

And I'm going to take Sam Raimi's The Evil Dead.

Evil Dead.

Actually, I talked to Evil then.

Did you take Evil Dead in the last draft?

There was an army of darkness.

I took the yeah, yeah.

So now I just need to draft Evil Dead 2 and then I'll have the whole trilogy in my draft.

Whole trilogy, yeah, The Evil Dead.

I still haven't seen it seen those so I need to get get with it on those for sure.

Yeah, as far as I know, great pick, but I haven't seen it, so can't really speak to it.

But yeah, yeah, it's just, it's a.

Film I love.

It's not.

I mean, he has Ex Machina, he has annihilation and.

And men from last year.

The men?

A rather disappointing year.

That's three.

Yeah he did direct devs the mini series but that doesn't count.

Yeah, he they announced the film for him next year and that was what they're because I saw that one announced for next year in the same list and I was like buying it, just missed it.

That's fine.

Anyway, man did not really.

Man didn't really do it for me.

I was disappointed because I absolutely love Ex Machina and Annihilation.

Annihilation.

Yeah, and.

Devs Devs is a great little man you've.

Never seen devs.

You need to see it.

Nick Offerman is one of the leads and he's like really incredible in it.

Very different role than Parks and Rec, but yeah, really good.

Highly recommend.

It's not that it's not like a big commitment cuz it's just like 1 miniseries, like one season, 8 episodes or so.

Sweet.

Maybe even less so.

It's not a big commitment.

And it's like really like an intriguing, like sci-fi concept.

I think OK I have my 5 going.

I think so.

I could go to seven.

Well, you have 7.

Yeah, you have 5.

I have four.

Yeah, let's go to seven.

Let's do it.

OK, so I need to do my my 5th pick.

This is this is gonna be good because I need to really try to fit some some good stuff in here.

We're halfway through.

So this is the 10th, the 10th.

Yes #10.

My 5th pick, I'm gonna go ahead and go with Blood Simple, the debut of the Cohen brothers.

Another one on my list, fortunately haven't seen.

That was the third one that I had considered that I haven't seen.

Yeah, man.

Yeah.

Tell me about is it great?

Is it great?

Noir.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it's like you watch it and you're like, yeah, the Cohen brothers.

They're, they're they're they're, you know, let's let's watch more of these.

You know, it's not like my favorite Coen brothers movie by any means, but it's like a really, really, really solid neo noir film, you know, and I feel like Nolan's following is is very noir.

But like even though he's like playing with the narrative structure, you know, like we talked about, it still feels kind of throwback.

It kind of has that like more throwback classic feel.

Whereas like this is very much like neo noir.

Like it's a noir, but it's like they're doing something new with it.

It you know, it's it's it's very like modern.

Yeah.

Another 1984 pick, man.

This is Spinal Tap and Blood Simple, both in the same year.

That's that's that's something.

What a year for movies.

Oh yeah, it really was.

1980 really actually was a really great movie.

A really incredible movie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, You ready, I?

Think so.

With the 11th pick, I'm going to take a movie that I've seen many times, a movie that I grew up watching, a movie that I love.

I'm going to take Fast Times at Ridgemont.

OK, I have an.

Extra bit of a curse ball.

There fast times.

I love fast times, it just makes me happy.

Who's the director?

I don't actually know off the top of my head which makes me upset.

It was like a movie I watched on TV.

All the.

Time.

Oh man, I actually love it when that happens.

I know, it's really sad.

Directed by Drum Roll.

Directed by Amy Heckerling.

I missed it.

Oh, directed by Amy Heckerling, who would go on to direct a couple of random films and then knock it out the park in 1995 with Clueless But Fast Times That Ridge My Eye.

Just a really fun movie.

Spicoli.

For great things, just haven't seen it.

Yeah, OK, I am back up.

Wait, where are we?

We're at 6.

We're at six, yes.

So this will be pick 12.

So I've got two more picks and I'm not going to be able to get in all the really good movies.

I made like a way too long list for this draft.

That's why I usually go like one or two under double the picking list.

That's usually my goal so I don't get overwhelmed.

Yeah, I'm like totally overwhelmed.

I'm going to go ahead and take this one that I feel like you probably haven't seen and maybe a lot of people haven't seen, but this is going to be my main.

Like I'm picking this so that hopefully people will like see it for the first time and then go watch it.

And that is Rian Johnson's brick, brick.

Oh wait, hold on.

Yeah, play your music.

It up with the 12th pick.

I'm going with Rian Johnson's debut film Brick, which I'm pretty sure I just said like film instead of film.

That was weird.

Brick is so good.

It's have you seen it?

I have not seen brick unfortunately.

Man, you've got you've got like little boy JGL Joseph Gordon Levitt.

I do love young boy.

Just delivering the most like, bizarre, like run of dialogues you've ever heard a teenager spout out in a high school.

This is OK.

So here's what Brick is.

Take a pretty violent noir film and mix it with like a high school coming of age film and like meld those two together and like this strange movie that you have in your head.

It's that, but done to like the greatest degree.

It's a great movie.

That's awesome.

That's so fun.

You need to go watch it for.

Like I will.

Move it up the list.

It's worth rent.

It's worth renting.

It's not streaming anywhere right now, but it's worth renting for sure.

I've got Blood Simple and Brick queued up.

Brick is good.

So Ryan Johnson obviously went on to direct the likes of Looper, Star Wars, the Less Jedi, the two Knives Out movies with Daniel Craig.

Yeah, he's he's had a good, good career and apparently going to just keep going.

Yeah, but Brick is actually my favorite Ryan Johnson movie still like to this day.

Out of all these great movies, I like Brick the most.

I think he started off probably too hot in my opinion.

Well, I've got a really funny curveball of a 7th pick.

Alright, let's do this.

Might cost me with the Gollywood number of 13th pick of the directorial debut draft.

I'm going to come at you with a curveball.

I'm going to come at you with a movie that was probably nowhere near your list.

Not even a hint of it.

But I'm going to take the legendary Tyler Perry's first directorial debut with Madea's Family Reunion by Ray.

Madea is on the list.

Probably the only time Madea will make it to a draft list.

Medea's family reunion because my final Medea movie.

Boom, Tyler.

Perry you the draft.

That might be like the pig that like that wins you the draft right there.

I'm trying to get my the Medea.

Hive is coming out to vote.

Yes, if you're if you're a part of the Medea.

I was trying to find a fun name for like the Medea, the Medea.

If you're the Medea family, you could come to the Medea's family reunion with me and my draft pick.

I love it.

I love it never.

I've never seen any Madea movie ever.

My cousin is in the Christmas one.

Cousin is an ex.

He's an extra.

I mean I don't even know if you see him but he's in there.

Foster Shout out to Foster extra in in the Madea Christmas movie.

They shot it in a part of it in McDonough, GA which is where area that I'm from originally A.

Fun fact, yes, as I'm scrolling through this Wikipedia page, Tyler Perry is the fourth highest listed name in Gone Girl, which is Oh yeah I forgot 4th billed name in Gone Girl.

Yes, I'm just scrolling through.

He played a pretty significant role in that movie and from what I.

Remember, yeah.

Was he like, was he like the FBI or some, I don't know, people are gonna be mad at me for not.

Remember, it's been a long time.

Yeah, man.

Hello, Perry.

So here's where like I'm really like, man, where I go because there, I don't know, there's some really good movies still out there.

We'll do honorable mentions to to throw in all these other great movies.

Love that.

Yeah.

There's one movie that I feel like probably should be picked that's not as high as others on my list.

Man.

Man this is really hard.

OK I'm going between 2 picks.

One movie I like more than the other, but the other might be a more recognizable director.

So I'll do this.

I'll go ahead and draft my favorite of the two.

Since I've already lost this draft, I think, and we'll just talk about honorable mentions later.

I'm going to go with Terrence Malick's Badlands.

Terrence Malick is one of my favorite directors, just makes these incredibly poetic films.

But yeah, Badlands is it's an interesting movie as it stars Martin Sheen as this.

He's kind of like, it's basically like a bit of a Bonnie and Clyde ish kind of movie, but they're like younger Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek kind of like on this like road trip after there's someone is killed, kind of like trying to escape the law sort of thing.

And they're on this road trip and it's really like, so like Malik is just like obviously known for his like just beautiful visuals.

And it's this like really like strange dark, like weird store like character kind of study, but with the background of this like beautiful, like wide open, like Midwest landscape that's like, and just incredibly beautiful.

And so it's, I don't know, it's not my favorite Malik, but just like a really fantastic first, like debut feature film and like sort of like others that we've talked about through this draft, just like kind of shows, I don't know, like tinges of what the rest of their career will kind of look like as far as like the movie types of movies they make.

So yeah, the Badlands, I haven't seen Terrence Malik.

I haven't.

Seen it, but any Terrence Malik pick is a good pick, so yeah.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

That's what that's what I was talking about last week with JP.

He he kind of let loose that he had only seen one Malik film.

And so I ended up with being able to snag the Tree of Life, which is one of my favorite films ever made ever made.

So yeah.

Yeah.

But the last pick of the draft, Oh, man, it was glorious.

Wow, That's a sad.

Yeah.

Badlands is a great movie.

I wouldn't move it up as high as Brick in your watch list, but you should put it up there.

I probably like it more than or about the same as Blood Simple right there.

OK with it.

Yeah.

Did you have any, any honorable mentions?

What's?

At all whatsoever I have.

I have a handful of honorable mentions that yes.

Lay them on me and I'll I'll throw all mine out.

I'll also mention some of the ones that I really wanted to pick but they just didn't direct enough things.

Napoleon Dynamite.

Really unfortunate Jared Hess only has 3 movies.

Didn't snag Napoleon Dynamite.

Yeah the Blair Witch Project was a one and done film for the VO that directed Blair Witch Project, which I really love.

Another.

I love horror movies, so there's a handful of horror.

Has more than three, does he?

Yeah, he has four at least.

Great.

Five.

Wow.

Yeah, I was OK.

Great.

I was wrong.

Totally good.

Because I had Napoleon Dynamite.

I was, I was thinking about it at one point, but I didn't go with it.

OK, I drafted it, I'm pretty sure in a comedy draft.

So I was like, I don't want to draft that again.

Yeah, yeah, Adam McKay is the directorial debut Anchorman.

The Legend of Ron Burgundy was another that was on my list.

Yeah, that's beautiful.

I also drafted that in that same comedy.

Yeah.

So you were checking it off from the comedies draft?

Yeah, another horror film.

James Wan, the popular horror director.

He's done a handful of different tastes.

I I was afraid he did The Conjuring, all The Conjuring universes and stuff like that.

OK, Yeah, yeah, he most recently did.

I think malignant was James Wan, but he opens up with the banger of Saw.

Just a classic all time.

That's right, horror.

Film Monsters Inc.

I don't actually know who directed Monsters Inc.

I don't have that off the top of my head or in my notes, but he would go on to direct a handful of the Disney Pixar films.

Yeah, Monsters Inc being the.

1st I'm pulling it up on the whole letterbox machine.

Oh, it's Pete Doctor.

Pete Doctor I love.

Yeah, I love every Pete Doctor Pixar movie.

But yeah, I don't know that I would have picked Monsters Inc, but it probably would have helped my.

It would have helped my.

Yeah, it might have sniped some people, Jeff.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Maybe the Iron Giant will get enough people from the animated side.

Legally Blonde, Another debut.

I thought about that one.

Yeah, smacking up I.

Watched that the other day with my wife.

Yeah, I thought about snagging for the female audience, you know, let them feel seen that we're not just a bunch of bro cinephiles.

And then lastly, just one of the greatest films of all time directed by Conrad Vernon, who would go on to direct Monsters Versus Aliens, Madagascar 3 and Penguins of Madagascar.

He just directorial debuts out with the banger that is Shrek to the best Shrek to film.

So those are some honorable mentions that I had.

A lot of them were like a bit too goofy and I decided to go the Medea route.

But what what what are some that you had?

What are some?

Yeah.

So would like to mention.

So you you started with ones that didn't qualify.

I'll do a few of those I mentioned after Sun Charlotte Wells debut.

Oh just bump the mess out of my mic.

My bad.

Another that is also like a single movie.

2019 Sound of Metal by Darius Martyr.

Oh yeah, I.

Loved that film.

Just a great film, yeah.

Yeah, The last black man in San Francisco, Joe Talbot, a 2019 film.

I'm pretty sure he that's his only feature, A Columbus by Koganada he came out with after Yang.

Was that last year or two years ago?

Yes, two years ago.

Yeah, After Yang was a great movie, but Columbus was an incredible movie, too.

Yeah, there's none of those qualified.

Oh, Nightcrawler did not.

Oh yes, that was another one.

He only has the three.

Yeah, great, great opening film.

But yeah, so honorable mentions that would have qualified that I didn't.

Obviously Bottle Rocket.

We just spent a whole series on Wes Anderson.

Love Bottle Rocket, but I just figured, well, we just spent a whole series on them.

I'll I'll get some other stuff out there.

They're not.

Aronofsky's pie is.

I haven't seen it.

I've heard great.

Things yeah.

So it it actually I think it came out the same year as following and also like very much a low budget black and white film, but like super weird and strange and to me just like a far superior movie to following.

Yeah, to be honest, like, it's just like, it's weird.

It's a weird, weird movie, but like, really interesting.

Yeah.

Night of the Living Dead was one that I was really thinking about going with George A Romero, known for, you know, obviously Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, all the zombies.

I thought about that.

I was living dead.

I wasn't totally familiar with with the rest of his work.

I just didn't feel right.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm the same way.

That's the only movie I've seen by him.

But it's really an incredible movie.

Yeah, we mentioned Get Out.

Sweetie Jane Campion is a really good movie debut.

Most people probably either know from The Piano or Power of the Dog, which came out a few years ago.

But Sweetie is a really good movie.

Lupin the Third The Castle of Cagliostro, which was Hey, I'm Miyazaki's debut feature animated film, which I really like.

I think it's a fun movie.

I had tales.

From the Earthsea, his his son's director of debut.

I had that one.

OK, yeah.

I don't think that he has enough films yet to qualify.

Yeah, there's there's a lot of good JJ Abrams opened up with Mission Impossible 3, which is.

Yeah, I.

Really like Mission Impossible 30, Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

I did not take it.

That was on my list.

Yeah, it's but some people might think that's a misstep, but it's it's also weird because it's got the double directors going on.

Yeah, hard to, I don't know.

Yeah, yeah.

Wong, car wise as tears go by is a really good movie as a debut.

How about how about this?

The 40 year old Virgin Judd Apatow swinging onto the scene with Steve Carell?

Just the King of Common right there, that man.

Absolutely.

Oh, I forgot to mention one that that did not qualify, which was Paranormal Activity which I really like.

I love the paranormal activities.

Yeah, I wish that Bong Shin Ho's director or debut debut was Memories of Murder, but it was in fact Barking Dogs Never Bite, which is not anywhere near as good as Memories of Murder.

Yeah, I'm not familiar with them at all, but that was what I looked in.

I've seen it.

It's it's fine.

I guess you can throw way back to the likes of Charlie Chaplin with the Kid and Buster Keaton with three ages, both OK movies.

Yeah.

To start off their incredible careers, Jean Luc Godard's Breathless, which is a beloved film among cinephiles.

Movie really serious movie lovers.

I watched it not that long ago.

I thought it was really good but not my favorite.

Yeah, I'm not very familiar with it so I noted it, but.

I also had George Miller's Mad Max obviously on my list, but I'm not like huge on the first Mad Max.

Neither am I, I had it there as well, but.

Anyways, sorry.

And then the other one, I've left this one for last.

It was the other one that I was thinking of taking over Badlands, and that's of course David Lynch's Eraser Head.

That was the one that I thought you were talking about in the beginning.

You said you're gonna say it till the end.

Yeah, like I think A Register has a really good movie, but it's, yeah, it's not my favorite.

It's super.

Have you seen this?

Special.

I have not seen it, but I've heard all of the.

Oh, man, the warnings.

It's like a movie that is.

It makes you feel so uncomfortable.

Like I was like, I was like squirming in my seat the whole movie.

Yeah, cool.

Yeah.

Not a not a super view watchable movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's directorial debuts.

Yeah.

I think there's a lot of and there's obviously a lot that we didn't mention.

Those are just ones that I've seen.

I'm just reading through other ones that I'm seeing that, yeah, there's a lot of people open out with really, really good stuff.

I mean, yeah, looks like The Lion King was a directorial debut.

Yeah, there's there's some, there's some really good ones in here and things I hate.

How do you go scooped up the the young?

That's true.

Young woman category there.

That's true.

I do love to.

Yeah, I don't.

Think Lion King would have would have qualified?

I wouldn't have.

I just got Lion said it.

Yeah, just unfortunate because obviously Lion King is great.

Yeah, that's a that's a movie draft.

Let's I'm going to read them back so that we can finalize this.

Hayden took Citizen Kane, Reservoir Dogs, The Shawshank Redemption, Being with John Malkovich, The Evil Dead, Fast Times at Ridgemont High and Medea's Family Reunion.

Medea.

Man, I really feel like I feel like I lost this draft after your third pick.

Your third pick anyways.

I do have a stack top three this top three.

Man, Yeah.

Anyways, yeah, I lost this one, which is fine because I still like my list, which my list is as follows.

12 Angry Men, Thief, The Iron Giant, This is Spinal Tap, Blood Simple, Brick and Badlands.

Great drafts, though.

That's all around.

Yeah, all around.

Good job, everyone.

Yeah, if you have, if you think we we left some outs that you feel like is blasphemous to not have in this draft, just yeah, reach out and let.

US know there's going to be some comments about us missing Jimmy Neutron boy genius.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

It was #15 it was #15 I promise.

The Rugrats movie, which, you know, I have.

Like I have an itching suspicion that that's like both a debut and then, but who knows?

I don't know.

Yeah, that's that's our movie draft.

Well, thank you for listening to that movie draft.

We had some great selections.

I think Hayden even pulled out a few that I remember that weren't even on my list just because I didn't do good enough research on some debut films.

But yeah, there there were there were some really good lists, some good honorable mentions too.

So I, I hope you enjoyed that movie draft and, you know, let us know if if we missed any that you think we really should have mentioned.

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