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Now here's Matt Jones.

Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio Now happy to be joined in studio by one of you know.

Luke Combe said this week Kentucky produced better country music than anywhere else, and one of those names is sitting in studio with us, John Michael Montgomery.

Did you know he said that?

By the way, I did not.

That's nice to know.

Absolutely, yeah, I mean I happen to agree with him.

Well, I mean just think about it.

Okay, go through history, Loretta Lynn, Keith Whitley.

You know Dwight Yoakam was kind of born West Virginia but also here a lot.

Then you got the Osbourne's, and then you even more recently, Tyler Childers, Chris Stapleton, you your brother, Uh, you know, Jorjah Simpson, the Judds.

I mean, it just goes on and on and on.

What do you what do you attribute that to?

Oh?

Gosh, I don't know.

I think he and elder Oh.

I think a lot of Irish people moved into the mountains of Kentucky actually right, you know, back in the day.

Uh, and it just you know, they are very music you know, if you're I've never been to Ireland, but I've been overseas where you know.

I mean, Irish people are very talented.

You know, I love Irish.

You can't go into a barn island without people.

Yeah, I mean, but my knowledge of it is that they moved and loved the mountains of Kentucky and Tennessee and all and it just kind of slowly spread, you know, the rest over Kentucky, and I think all that heritage and background probably is a.

Lot behind it.

Uh uh you know, I mean, you know Tom t Hall, I.

Was gonna kill me for not mentioning Tom ty Hall, who's saying my uncle's witty.

I love you did, thank you very much?

All right.

So we were just sitting here.

Shannon is a music guy.

He's you can't see him, he's in a little but he and I were sitting here talking about all of his songs.

Of your career and when what was your first hit?

Lifes of Dance?

Lifees of Dance?

So for a huge hit when Life Sedance starts rising.

If I had told John Michael Montgomery at that moment that you were gonna have the career you had, would you have believed me?

Oh?

Absolutely not.

No.

I you know, when we did the first album, uh, you know, I had never really sang a song quite like Life of Dance.

You know.

I did Southern rock songs from Bob Seekers and George Straits and and Lionel Richie love songs and you know all that you didn't Richie, Yeah, stuck on you.

And he's gonna pull one of those December.

Twelve, him and George you know, I mean George Trade, and I mean obviously you know, Keith and all that came along in the eighties, but in the seventies and stuff like that.

You know, I just, uh, I had never really sang a philosophal song like.

Lives of Dance.

You know.

The producer brought it to me in I was like, yeah, man, it's kind of cool, you know.

So I cut it.

And then he also brought a song called Alove the Way He Loved Me to the table, which I was like, I love that one, you know, and and I was like, you know, so I assumed that that ballad was going to be the first song off of the album.

And that's what I was pulling for because that's what I you know, it's what I really love to do, to sing good love song.

They said, no, we're going to go with this song Lives of Dance, you know, and I went pretty good decision though.

Okay, I was like, you know, I mean, I was like, I thought it.

I thought it would be the ballad, and they said, no, it's mid tempo.

The ballat's you know, you're a new artist and we don't want to put a four minute song ballad out first for you.

We want to this Life of Dance mid tempo.

It's uh, we think it will do well for you.

I was like, okay, well, you know, I'm new.

They've been doing it.

Producers in the label.

Let's said let's go for it.

And it took a while when it first came out.

The Life of Dance did to finally get up.

You know.

The charge philosophical, I mean, it's you know, it's you sitting there, and it's you can relate it to a lot of things in your life.

It has withstood the test of time.

Then I would say, when I think of you, you've got that one.

You've got sold right, I think be my baby tonight.

And then I swear, those are the four that to me kind of stick out.

And do you agree that those if you were to sit there and do the mount rushmore of John Michael Montgomery songs.

Are always think those four would probably be in any I mean, when I Love the Way He Loved Me went number one for me off, I thought, well, that's gonna be my career song, you know, number one hit for my first number.

And then I Swear came out and it just went to the next level.

How did it happen that that wasn't there was an alt for one or something version of that and yours out at the same time.

How did that happen?

Well, what happened is I had put the song out first.

The writer had had the song in his back pocket, that had written the song and it it actually had been around for Nashville for a while, and I was writing with him and he said, hey, I got this song.

I said.

He said, I think it's perfect for you.

I'm not with a publishing company that you know, they don't push it anymore.

And he said, I think your voice is perfect.

So he played it for me on a little cassette player and I was like, oh, it's beautiful.

So we end up cutting it and a month after it was out and when it was storming up the charts, my Rick Blackburn of Atlantic Records called me into his office.

You know, it's like, Hey, just want to let you know there's another version of icewear coming out from a label Atlantic New York, a group and it's a you know, pop a RB song and everything.

I just want to know, let you know in case we didn't want to make you mad about it or whatever.

And I was like, no, man, it's a great song.

Hey, you know, I'm not a popping RB singer.

Let them rock and roll.

But that's so rare to have two songs that were massive hits.

The only other one I could think of is that Trisha Yearwood leonn rhymes when they both sing that song that was in Armageddon.

I can't remember, but like.

Well I had two of them.

The other one was I Can Love You Like That.

They covered that too, oh.

For one day.

Did you ever sing with them about Did you ever sing it together?

No?

Well, what we did we did a little video thing, okay.

You know out in California where we talked a little bit about I swear and now it all happened, and we did, you know, sing a little bit.

But that's about it.

I've never done any shows with him or anything.

So Grundy County auction Channon que up the where he goes so fast right there?

All right, so this is I mean, everybody knows this song and you did you have to learn to do the.

Did you kind of like all my songs?

I tell people, it's like when I listened to songs so I want to cut, I put them in.

I put them in my CD player, and I put them on, uh where they would as soon as I started my vehicle up, that song would start playing.

And after two or three weeks if I did it, either burnt I got burnt out on it, or I still loved it.

I was going to cut it, and but basically I thought, I swear it was going to be the song everybody recognized me by for the rest of my career.

But sold is actually the one?

Is that the one that was?

Is that?

So you're playing a concert now?

Is that the one everybody goes crazy?

Yeah?

Because you fast?

You go right here.

Oh it's awesome to nip some hair, blue eyes, and I'm about to give them.

My good bath.

That was better well done that?

Uh?

Yeah, you know, I mean it.

I can't say that it was easy, but I had listened to it so many times over and over again.

And then by the time I got in the studio, uh, you know, I was prepared to you know, tackle it and uh uh.

It's funny though, I mean, I you know, they give you the words and everything like that to read and all that stuff, But when I go in there, I mean, I want to be able to I want the song to Literally I've lived with it long enough that you know, uh that it's just like any favorite song that you have that growing up, you listen to it so many times it becomes part of you, you know.

And I think that was part of my success being in the studio.

As a matter of fact, was I just you know, I didn't like people handing me songs last minute, going hey, here's a hit for you.

You know, I know you're going to the studio this week, and I'm like, dude, I'm probably had to feel it.

Yeah, I had to live with it.

You know.

I feel it's like, you know, just like going ever get tired of a song.

You ever get you ever like and you don't have to say which one, but you ever get one where you're like, man, I've sung that so much, I can't do it anymore.

No, That's the reason I listened to it so much.

I had that little thing where if I can get if a song can stick with me for two or three weeks straight without me finally going Okay, I'm tired of hearing it, then it's probably a good you know, uh, a good way to avoid having songs on your albums that you're like, now, I really liked it at first, but now I hate it.

I'm exhausted.

You are a Kentuckian through and through.

Still live in Nicholasville.

Oh yeah, yeah, born in Danville.

My mom and dad, my dad Mom from Danville, dad's from Garrett County, so.

You know, me and they were born in Danville.

And then of course you know they both picked and sing and had job day jobs.

And and we moved.

We moved from Garrett County to uh, I mean Bull County to Garrett County, the innto Justman County, back to Bull County, back to Jack Garrett County, back to Yeah, I mean, we we rented a lot, you know, so I mean, if the rent went up, you're going we picked up the music equipment that we used for chairs on.

Boiled Garrett Jess Triangle.

It's the big triangle.

It's hard to tell when people say, well, where's where are you from?

Where'd you go to school at?

And I'm like, well, that's kind of complicated.

I went to I went to you know, uh Jestsman Grade School, Uh, Damble Grade School, Garrett Junior High, Jarrett Garrett High, Jessman High.

You know, so I got we you know, we our roots run deep in that central Kentucky park and uh, you know, I get advice to my high school reunions from lots.

Of school But you haven't left.

I mean a lot of people would when you, when they have success, they go to Nashville and stay you you always kept the kept roots here.

Yeah, you know, and I at first I was dead set on moving to Nashville.

I just thought that's what you had to do, you know.

Okay, I got a record deal, which I didn't go to Nashville to get.

They came up and found me, you know, at Austin City there in Lexington.

Is that where you got You got discovered at Austin.

Yeah, you know.

Me and my brother we were weekend Warriors.

Another guy named Tim Williams played base and we had a little three piece and we we played weekends all over Central Kentucky, Frankfort someone said, you know, and Richmond, and we were trying to get into the what we called the uh be the house band you know in Lexington because back then, house bands you know, played five nights a week, get on stage of nine, you know, four sets one.

You didn't have to carry your equipment around.

You didn't have to have a U haul to go, you know, load in, load out.

So we finally got uh, you know, the job at Austin City Saloon.

Greg Austin uh you know, played there for years and I used to go in and sitting with him.

Great dude, and uh when they ended up selling it, he left, you know, my brother Eddie was like, hey, I think you know the new owner, I think he might give us a chance to play Austin City five nights a week and we can have a full time gig.

And that was when, I mean, that was when Austin City was Austin City.

Like I mean, it's still good, it's still but back then it'd be like every night of the week.

Greg made it very popular, and so when we got there, I had kind of an idea of what the you know, it was basically a college crowd that he drew and they loved it, you know, and a lot of two step in line dancing music.

And so when I when we started, that's when I hired Troy, uh you know, so me and Eddie Timm and then Troy hired Troy Men, Me and Troy would go in and.

Say, does you all three worked together?

Yeah?

Yeah, we yes.

Yeah.

My first band, Young Country, it was me.

It was John Michael Montgomery and Young Country.

My brother played drums, Troy played rhythm guitar, Jim played bass.

I had a guy from Eastern Kentucky played keyboards for me, and they're actually at one time a guy named Danny Williams, which used to be was exile in for a while.

You know.

We called himself Willie Daniels I think at the time.

But yeah, we just got in there and started playing music and you know playing.

It's a pretty talented group.

I mean, four guys just playing at Austin City.

One of them is Exile, two of them are Montgomery Gentry and the other one is John Michael Montgomery.

I mean the people that went and saw that group, it was a band, go into three different groups that become huge.

Well, you know, I mean literally lighting and struck three times.

I mean it happened for me.

Uh.

You know, it's funny because I saw this.

I saw these guys come in.

It was on a slow night and one you know, well it was one guy actually, and he was kind of dressed up and I've never seen him in there before.

So me and my brother always got off stage and said, you know, said hi to the people that came in.

And so this guy said, yeah, I'm from Atlantic Records.

Were down here at this other bar.

Down here, we're listening to a guy doing a showcase.

And he's like, now, I wasn't that impressed.

And so one of the waitresses come up said, if you want to hear the best singer in town and go down to Auston City's a guy named John Michael Montgomery.

And you know, wow, did you ever find that waitress?

Now, I'd give her a real big tip right now.

Like life can change on just something something like that.

Oh, I mean yeah that I tell this story all the time, Like you said, I mean, my my theory and philosophy was you know, it's like I just wanted to I didn't know if I'd ever get a record it or not, but I knew I wouldn't get one if I never if I you know, didn't go do it.

You know, I was young, guy, wasn't married, didn't have any kids, and you know, my mom and dad got married very young and they had kids, and it made it tough for dad.

You know, he wanted to make it in the business.

But when you got three kids, if he you know.

So your dad tried to make it as well.

Yeah, my dad so proud to have two sons.

Well, you know, he got to see me.

Unfortunately died from prostate cancer, you know, in ninety four, but my my hits came out in ninety two, ninety three, and ninety four, so he got to see all that happen and uh vindicated, you know, because a lot of people it was like Harold, that's my dad, names like you need to get a real job.

That music ain't gonna take you nowhere, you know, and and same thing to my mom.

But you know, so when I made it, obviously he was very well vindicated.

But unfortunate passed away and Eddie and Troy got together.

You know, Eddie went out and rode with me for a little while, but him and Troy hooked back up became a duo and went back to Austin City and then they got some record.

Yeah, and you know, so that means literally three guys on that.

That's amazing, you know, in the same spot.

It was.

Really It's a really cool story, no doubt about it.

People say you need to write a book, you know, and I'm like, well, maybe one.

Day you should.

It's if anybody, if I can do it, you certainly do it.

And we're gonna take a break.

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We're gonna talk a little UK sports because John's a big fan and his farewell concert at Rupperina in December.

This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

Welcome back Tukey Sports Radio.

John Michael Montgomery joining us.

All right, so you're doing your final show at Rupperina is this like final final.

I'm not touring him nowhere after this year?

Okay, yeah, you know, if I do a show it's called my I'm you know, I got the itch and I was like, look, I just need to get on stage once, you know, just to get that out or whatever.

But I touring wise.

You know, it's just sixty years old.

I'm thirty three years beating a black top out there, you know, the old body.

You know, you bench like any athlete, you know, you pro athlete or whatever.

I mean, you look in the mirror one day and he goes, I mean, I'm I just can't do it.

Anymore time they go hard on my body, you know.

Yeah, and but yeah, you know, I was it's been thirty years since I played RUP.

You know, in ninety four, I was opening up reball over the country and she came in to RUP and I was got to open up for her.

Whether the next year I went out on my own.

I swear it was big, so you know, all that stuff was just going through the roof.

And so they booked Reperena for me in ninety five.

The headline so that was, you know, to me, I was like, if I never get to play another place, Reperena.

That's my if I find out tomorrow, if I please let it be after the get my Reperena show in you know and uh so, which was incredible.

And then of course, like I said, that was thirty years ago, so it's really a thirty year you know, this will be thirty year celebration.

So you haven't played it since ninety five?

No, No, I my brother and Troy you know, had some shows there with Lennard Skinner and stuff, you know, and i'd go there and maybe you know, be part of that.

But I've not done a concert at Repeerena and I and so for me, my dream last show obviously would be Reperena.

So it was able to work it out where we could.

But that's awesome.

So it's you Eddie, it's your son in law.

Yeah, Travis Denning and my son Walker.

And Walker, so not only do you get to play Rupperena, you get to do it with your family.

Absolutely gonna be a complete family affair, and you know my of course, speaking of families, I mean you know my daughter Madison, which you know you know, she got married a couple of years ago and swore she would never have any kids and then about two and a half weeks ago she had had a little grand baby girl.

All right, what's her name?

Charlotte Lane and Charlotte Lane, Dinny and so uh so I didn't know if I was ever going to be a grandpa or not.

So you know, about nine you know, about nine months ago when they let us know how we, me and Crystal were tickled to death obviously, So yeah, I got I still go.

I'm gonna have a lot going on after the tour is over.

At it, I can tell you that.

But I mean, that is so cool that you're gonna get to do your final show right close to where you grew up with your brother, with your son and with your son in law.

I mean, like, isn't that the American dream?

To get to play the place you idolized with your family?

As if I just can't imagine a better way to go.

Out, I mean definitely.

I mean, uh, you know, you never think about, you know, when you're out there touring.

You're so grateful that I got the opportunity to, you know, get a record deal and have hits and do something, you know, because I never I tell people all the time, I was not one of them artists like, hey, you know, one of these days, I'm going to be a big star.

I just I just I was one of them kind of guy that's like, well, you know, there's something special about those people.

You know.

It probably ain't ever gonna happen to me.

I'm you know, and why would it, you know?

And uh although exile guys, you know, they would come by the bar from time to time, JP and all them, and you know, stop in say hi to us, and we just thought that was awesome.

You know.

We were like, wow, man, we got you know, these famous guys you know, coming in and stopping to see us, you know, and and uh so uh but you know, and talk about touring.

I mean, I think they've been turned for like fifty years, you know.

But I just know I know what my body tells me.

You know, I'm like, you know this is and plus I had a bad bus wreck a couple of years ago, broke for ribs up, you know.

And when you're laying on the side of your on your side with four broken ribs looking out a bus windshield down seventy five and you're fifty seven to fifty eight years old, you're going I don't know, how much longer I can do this?

Thankfully you're you're recovering.

Let me ask you.

I want to ask quickly about UK.

You got UK here on you love it?

Mark Pope?

I love Mark Pope.

Yes, I think he was an absolute fabulous hire.

Me and my brother are through the roof on him.

And you know, I keep up with some of the recruits the best I can, you know, I mean as a day's world.

I mean they're coming and going right and left, you know, and so but no, I think you know obviously, I mean when he was playing for you UK back you know, of course, I go all the way back to Rick Roby and Mike Phillips and Kyle Mazy you know, uh, you know that's my favorite team.

I you know, I was in like grade school, I think, O we're in Danville and the team came by after they won the national championship and Jack Gibbons I think, and all come by and spoke to the kids and stuff, you know, and we were like, no way man, you know, uh just uh uh.

But yeah, Pope was on that you know, national championship team.

I mean, you know when you bleed blue, I mean, you know, like you know and he does.

I mean he is uh, he's a true blue, you know.

I mean, you know, everything he's got and loves is about UK basketball winning and you know, and of course you know I love some Mark Stoops too, and you know that's that's a yeah.

He's I just I loved Kentucky football as much as I do anything growing up those games.

He narrates the intro right that.

Lexington.

Can you give us what what he got?

The intro?

You do?

Yeah, well, my memory ain't as good as it used to be.

I'd be able to well you and I also got robbed.

We won at the PGA Tour.

At the PGA Tour event, Nicholas Field, me, you, Tubby Smith and Rick D's won the pro am and they wouldn't give it to us because they said the celebrity team can't win.

And it made it we won.

Gave us all this hope up front and then just ripped it right out from underneath our feet.

And I think the best story I ever heard was Vince gi Will won.

He got a hold in one and it was like he won a house.

It was like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars home.

And so you know at the end of the round and he's like, hey, look what I want to name.

Sorry, it's in the.

You didn't apparently didn't read between the lines that celebrities can't don't get Well that's.

What they.

Me.

We all, Rick Jesus is great, but you and me and Tubby play better than we've ever played.

Then they took it away from Sean.

Thank you.

Tickets are on sale now.

I'm a taking baster.

Come see him.

I can't wait to watch it.

John, great having you, Thank you very much, appreciate it.

We'll take a break, be right back.

KSR.

TJ.

Smith personal injury attorney called TJ.

He'll make them pay now.

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Here's Matt Jones.

This is I do love this song, Shan.

This is that Letters from Home right?

Yeah, yeah, he's got somebody.

I think it's really pretty.

Yeah, it's great.

I mean I won't just sit and listen to it because now on the podcast you just get silenced.

But but I still I do really like that.

That was awesome, great having him in.

Dude, it was fantastic.

I love hearing those stories.

You know, Kentucky has produced a lot of country music stars, but for the Lectington area, him and he's brother and Troy Gentry that they you know, they're at the top of the list.

Is just going to Austin City and they're they're playing late eighty and then all of a sudden they all end up being stars.

I was excited to have him on already because you know, we all love his music.

But those stories he was telling, I want to hear it more.

That was great too.

Like the waitress just saying, why don't you go on down the street listen to this guy instead?

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All right, so let's I got to read you this.

You don't even know about this yet, Drew, but you know we're doing as we announced earlier this week, we're doing an NFL podcast.

It's now not official, but you know, our excitement is official.

If they if they decide not to do it, then we'll just be crying.

So so anyway, they were we're supposed to have a content meeting this week.

I guess one of the people, uh, you know, they had the thing at the NFL, the the shooter that came to the South, So everything's gotten kind of pushed back a little bit.

Uh and uh.

But someone at iHeart who is also part of this, wrote today to suggest names.

Shannon, and I need you to to hear these news.

Let's go.

Now.

I'm not.

Not making fun of these, No, we're work shopping.

But so thank Mario, these are not gonna be it, at least if I have anything to say about it.

Number one the NFL Show with Matt Jones.

Let you know what it is, the most basic, generic name you could possibly.

Are just like the subject of remo or was that actually that was one of the four choices?

Bluegrass Blitz boy, I don't know, Thank you to ever submitted these the NFL.

According to Matt and Drew.

Okay, people get paid to come up with these ideas.

And then finally Jones in for the NFL, so that guy doesn't get to decide today.

Okay, So I mean, I I'm I think what we could say is if people have suggestions, it's still an open form at this point, Shannon, I think we could still say that the four that have officially come in they could be beaten by other suggestions.

We need like a good brainstorming session, because whoever came up with those clearly didn't put a whole lot of thought into it.

Which of those is the worst?

Bluegrass Blitz the NFL Show with Matt Jones?

What was the third one?

According to Matt and Drew and then Jones in for the NFL, the.

NFL is the absolute worst.

By far by far.

Jones in for the NFL is that can't be the first of all, that's a good way for the podcast to fail on launch, because I don't care if it was the best show in the world.

If I saw Jones in for the NFL, I'm not listening.

I'm not even gonna listen.

I'm on.

I'd be embarrassed to type that into my search bar just to have that in my history, jonesing for the NFL.

Not every show can be the sports Mob with Matt and Robb.

But see, I feel like sports Mob with Matt and Rob is Harvard compared to this very true?

What about the alliteration of the Bluegrass Blitz?

A little double b there rolls off the tongue.

It's awful.

If I'm in one of the other forty nine states, why am I listening to the Bluegrass Bliz?

Sounds Kentucky.

It's a very Kentucky specific And the whole point of this is to sort of expand our horizons.

So I don't bring this up.

I'm not to, like, you know, make fun of the person who suggested it, but I guess I'm kind of making fun of the person, like.

This is like how you come up with this?

Are the processes, and I feel like we could do better than this, So so it's not your trouble.

I've eliminated a few users submissions too.

Someone said, uh, tush pushing.

I was like, yeah, I don't know that, we want to be toush pushing.

Honestly, I agree with you, But honestly, tush pushing would get.

Yeah, there's a connotation there I don't want to commit to.

If people too did to tush pushing, they might think it's like the gay NFL.

It's like two gay guys.

Talk about the NFL.

We already have that broke.

Yeah, you know, yeah, let's just not do that.

I just I don't it's a clever name, but I just think like that would might get us a different.

Fan base pants to listen to that push.

Somebody suggested one career catch, because in fifth grade I caught a pass, So between the two of us, one career catch not bad.

I think that would be better though, if, like, you know, we had someone on who actually had made an NFL catch and it was just literally they had made one fifth grade catch probably, So anyway, that's where we are right now.

Uh, the early suggestions, I think, can all ryan be topped?

Well, as you know, ESPN likes to use the host names in the title, so they're gonna find a way to probably put Matt and Drew together.

I actually would argue, as bad as Jones is, the NFL show with Matt Jones is maybe the most like my mother could come up with that now, but you know, don't even need to know anything.

That's like literally the most basic basketball.

I thought that's what with Ryan.

I thought that's what it was called before we start thinking the names.

That's why I thought it was the email subject.

You know, I think that's very straight.

Simplicity does work.

Look at the name of this show, Kentucky's Sports Radio.

It's nothing fancy about it.

It says what it is.

That's actually a really good point.

Yeah, but two interesting things about that Kentucky Sports Radio.

You people would say, oh, it is what it is, but there's a strong argument that none of those words completely apply.

It started as a website with no radio, with no radio, so Kentucky Sports Radio originally wasn't even radio.

For years, I felt like I had to explain that every week to someone.

Yeah, it's a website, and we still to this day.

When I go to the SEC Tournament, I have to explain to the people at the SCC there's a Kentucky Sports Radio website and there's a Kentucky sports radio radio show, and they're not even owned by the same people, and they just look at him and go the same thing.

I'm like, no, they're different things.

I don't even own the website anymore.

Secondly, we don't always talk about Kentucky.

And third, as many of you remind me daily on Twitter, I don't always stick to sports really, so it is not necessarily the simple explanation.

Remind you you had a wrestling show on Netflix called Wrestlers.

All right, that one I'm leaning into the NFL show.

Now, that's true.

I remember when they told me that name.

I was like, you sure Wrestlers, can't you sure we can come up with.

You know, this podcast?

His show before was just called cheer.

Right true?

So I mean he did have a thing.

Did you see Will Levis's uh did I did?

Uh?

No one he was gonna get showed.

I believe that he needed it.

But the timing I wondered if it was maybe a long term play too, to help him out next year take the season off.

They put that picture out, It's like, yes, please get surgery right away.

We see it.

His his shoulder looks like I don't know, it looks like he got hit by bat.

It's like a bone sticking up, Like.

There's a bone sticking up, and then it has like a valley and then another thing like I don't even know.

How a nailbow or a shoulder gets like.

I don't either, Ryan.

So here's what I don't understand.

Why did he wait someone to have certain like that looks awful?

And if he's throwing shoulder, that's why.

How do you even I could have even played at all with the way that it was before this?

Yeah, I mean he needs to get that taken out.

I've never seen anything like that.

I don't know how he didn't do it immediately when that happened.

But for a while a lot of people have said, uh, he's just having the surgery to get out of playing because he's not gonna be the starter.

Do you feel like now he needs the surgery.

I mean, there's no way he can look like that and play football.

I think he had it like that last year, but that needs to get taken care of.

I still think it's smart of him to have the surgery now, but he still needs the surgery, regardless of what it's going to do for him long term.

But this didn't get like that.

I don't know.

It's such a weird look.

Had to take some sort of hit, some kind of bone got displaced in there or something.

It's weirdly.

I hope will get better.

I will say to you that is you know, you don't I don't know what you do when someone hurts.

I don't know if you just look at him and go.

But I think that's what I would do.

If I saw will Evis, I would just be like.

Oh yeah, it's like as I'm talking about you, you probably knows.

I keep rubbing my shoulder.

It's like purple.

Just to look at it.

It hurts just.

Thinking about it right now.

It does?

It really does tell me about Stockton Morgan or did you already do it?

Did that all?

Right?

Well, then you know what.

Let's take a break.

I've got If I'm nine two eight out, that's right, I was doing something else.

If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, we will take a break.

Right back to cancel.

Drew had a good suggestion right there, covers ero or a good one because we don't know anything, Shane, and so cover ero.

We've covered ero things in our life.

Well we're covering it.

But we've played ero minutes, so we've played ero minutes actually, but the ones i've you'll put in takes I don't.

I don't dislike that.

With seven, can let me give the number?

Seven two seven seven four five two five four.

Is it live?

We'll be live.

It's gonna eventually be live on YouTube on Sunday nights, but for I think initially to be podcasts till we know what the cover we're doing, which may.

Take a while.

With this crew.

If you can see by the initial suggestions, we'll be ready for the playoffs.

I think it'd be awesome when it's live, though, see you guys.

Be like we do it live on Sunday night.

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By the way, we'll do a second part of Ask Anything Wednesday tomorrow since we had John Michael's thing.

Well, we'll do it tomorrow as well because we are in studio.

All right, So let me let me give you a couple other little things.

Did you see the baseball player Shannon who got traded in the middle of a doubleheader?

No, I didn't see this.

So he played for the Orioles and they were playing the Blue Jays, and in game one he played the game for the Oriols.

But then in between the games he got traded to the Blue Jays.

Yeah, just walk right across.

So he literally walked across the field, changed uniforms, and even though he didn't get in, he was available for the Blue Jays in game too.

I'm mad at the Blue ja they didn't put him in.

Why wouldn't theyut him at least just a pitch hit or something.

Like this happened like last year, like same situation where that happened.

I guess it's just when you're right before the trade deadline, you're in the same place as the other guy, and you're like, we're here, yeah, we might as well make a trade with each other.

What are you think saw I liked when he walks by his bullpen, they're just laughing, they're waving at him, and he looks so confused, and he kind of salutes him and he just goes and walks across the field.

And how did they have a uniform for him?

I think they can dial those up pretty quick.

But they were in the other city.

Oh yeah, they were the Rotea though that Toronto and you're in Baltimore.

How did they get a uniform for him in between the games?

And he pitched in the first game, so he pitched for the Orioles, which also presumably they knew the trade was happening.

Do you think the general manager when he saw him come in, was like, stop, don't beat us.

We got you in just a minute.

Corey whispers like, you're on our team, help us.

I just think that's a crazy scenario.

It is really crazy.

Years ago, the one dude, I think Joel Youngblood got a hit in the AFTERNUE for one team, got traded, went into that team that night, got another hit.

Well, we told the story, or at least I told the story.

Maybe on ESPN, maybe it was here.

I can't remember.

There was.

There's in history there was a guy who played for both teams in the same.

Game, in the same game.

Yeah, he played for one team.

It was a rain delay.

He was traded during the rain delay, and then the next day finished the game for the other team, and he was allowed to play for both teams.

Now, Major League Baseball had to make a rule Shannon, that you can't play for both teams in a game.

Yeah, that's I think it should be that way because then you can disabotage the.

Entire thing of that pain.

Yeah.

I remember that.

That was fairly recent, maybe last season.

It was.

It wasn't all that wasn't all that long ago.

But that did that did happen, so.

This guy can do It was a double header, two different games.

It's two different games.

It's two completely different games.

I should have put him in something just.

To make it.

Yeah, just to make it whatever.

I also want to give one quick shout out for you know, I, because I've been I'm in the business and have been for a few years.

I give I have sympathies for independent restaurants, right like people who are doing their own thing.

Yesterday I was walking to my the sauna place that's on campus, which is, you know, about a couple mile walk from me, and I walked by a place that I don't know if people know exist but has, but I saw it, and I go when I walk back, I'm gonna eat there.

It's on campus.

Do you know what Peruvian chicken is?

Do not?

Oh, it's like rotisserie chicken with spices, and it's called Peruvian chicken.

Like over by the old iHeart louis Remember the Yummy Poy I took you two.

That's next.

iHeart the Old iHeart building in Louisville.

That's so good.

Still there, it's awesome.

I don't get there a lot anymore because if we moved our buildings.

But it's called Yummy Point LEXI now has a new place like that, okay, and it's right there on campus.

And what used to be what is it mellow mushroom?

You know, I'm talking about that pizza place and it's I don't have an endorsement with these people or anything.

I just stopped an eight.

I was like the only person there, and they said they just opened, and the woman said, we're having a hard time getting people who know us.

I'm getting nothing for this except I it's good.

It's good for you because it's peruvi like, it's not fried.

It's rotisserie chicken, and it's called poyo Azul, which I think means blue chicken.

It's actually a good name if you're gonna be on campus, right blue chicken.

And I just would say that woman was very nice working there and the food was really good, and so I'm just throwing it out there everybody, he says.

She said, we know we're hoping things pick up when school gets here, so I hope they do for for them.

But it's good because we don't have a that I know.

I don't think there's a Peruvian place in Lexing too.

I'm not aware of one, and so I'm.

Giving them a shout out.

Uh azul right there next to Target on campus.

Huh.

I've driven by it many times.

I eat on campus somehow often that I plan to get over there.

It looks good.

It is good, and it's relatively inexpensive too for what you're getting, honestly, so healthy.

Yeah, I think it is healthy.

All right, let's go to James.

Go ahead, James, Yeah, are you hearing me?

I've still got you, Okay?

And anyway, I was thinking about the name.

How about the NFL playbook with Matt and Drew.

I mean, it feels like that was similar to those other ones, so uh, but yeah, a playbook seems like a generic I appreciate the call, I like the idea, but it seems like a generic name.

I think we got to do something.

That's that's why I like Cover ero.

Because it's like kind of unique and well, we're gonna fight.

We're gonna figure out.

What kind of making fun of you guys, making you know, we're.

Gonna have to exactly we don't, I mean we don't know it.

Like it's literally you're going to cover nothing.

Yeah, exactly right, we are going to.

I think it's the name.

We are gonna cover nothing, Cover ero with two ero no safeties.

We are not safeties.

I mean, that's a podcast about NFL and theory.

In theory just like cover ero is a defense in theory.

I think I'm in not just because I came up with pretty good.

Now I want to hear other ones, but I think it's uh, I think I think it's a pretty good one.

There's also the problem.

I feel like they're every term in football has a podcast like the Unsportsman, like all the you know, all the terms football kind of covers.

I don't think.

So that's another I was looking to see if cover zero has been used.

Okay, and also in theory, people would go, oh, they're using a football term.

These are probably smart football people.

You're gonna them that's right.

Well, but it's both.

It's a double It's like it sounds like we know what we're talking about, but secretly we're acknowledging we don't.

And then we won't put our pictures up, so they'll just assume it's these two safeties that played football tactics.

They might think we play yeah.

Until we start talking, Yes, we're we're cover ero.

We were used to be the safeties they left on the bench.

I mean, I mean, I don't think it's bad.

All right, Thank you all very much.

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