The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Charles Barkley to make his annual NFL champion pick before discussing the second apron, the “best NBA player” argument, Barkley's ESPN partnership, and much more (3:53)!

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Charles Barkley

Producers: Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Steve Ceruti

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