Episode Transcript
[SPEAKER_00]: Axis Mooney.
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to One Nation, Indivisible.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Andrew L.
Sital, a constitutional attorney and the author of the founding myth and American crusade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to One Nation, and to visible, we got a lot to cover today, so it's dive right in because Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is flailing in a Senate campaign against sitting U.S.
[SPEAKER_00]: Senator John Corbin.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because he's having a hard time, he is reaching for the Christian Nationalism.
[SPEAKER_00]: hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's really slamming that Christian Nationalist rhetoric button as often as he can.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you may not know Ken Paxton.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may have heard a little bit about him, but you may not be terribly familiar with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is an awful person and a worse politician.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ken Paxton is a man who was under indictment for securities for a during during, I mean, basically during the whole of his [SPEAKER_00]: uh, he worked hard to overturn the 2020 election, uh, bringing cases that bear the name of his state Texas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he is being divorced on what is soon to be x-wife called, quote, biblical grounds, biblical grounds, because he was having a years long fair, which is really interesting because I'm [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure there's something in the 10 commandments about adultery, and when I say 10 the 10 commandments that Texas public schools are required to put up according to Texas law and according to Attorney General Paxton, I'm pretty sure there's something about like not committing adultery in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though he himself was having a years-long affair, oh yes, and let's not forget the 10 Commandments Bill was struck down Because of a case that Americans united brought alongside its allies at the ACLU and FFRF and the ACLU of Texas and [SPEAKER_00]: Paxton also was accused of a host of other crimes like bribery and fraud by former assistance, Google, read up on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are alleged right now, but he was certainly accused of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was impeached by an overwhelming vote of the Texas House, which led to his suspension until a narrow vote in the Senate reinstated him.
[SPEAKER_00]: A Senate in which is soon to be ex-wife Angela Paxton is a member, though she was not allowed to vote on his reinstatement, I believe, the margin, which she was reinstatement was two votes, and the margin was calculated with her there, though she did not get it, but just so you get a sense if you haven't already.
[SPEAKER_00]: of the incestuous self-dealing nature of Christian Nationalist extremists.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, really all about the country, but especially in Texas, we just read you a little bit from a 2023 Texas Tribune story by Eleanor Klebenoff, Eleanor I apologize, because I bet I didn't get that name right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eleanor KL, IBA, NOFF, Klebenoff.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Paxton's, quote, helped Falm's stone-brier community church in Frisco led by Pastor Chuck Swindall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Swindall, the founder of Insight for Living Ministries, a national evangelical radio syndicate, is a leading figure in conservative Christian circles.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was the lead plaintiff, in one of the challenges to the Affordable Care Act's contraception mandate, [SPEAKER_00]: a Plano Religious Liberty firm that later became closely connected with Attorney General Paxton's office end quote.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've covered first Liberty pretty extensively on here, they are not a religious liberty firm.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are a Christian nationalist legal outfit that is working to weaponize our understanding and our legal understanding of religious freedom in a way that privileges [SPEAKER_00]: Christians.
[SPEAKER_00]: And John Corden has ties to some of these groups to go back and listen to episode 21 where we talk about the Santa Fe V do case that arose out of Texas and which is currently being challenged.
[SPEAKER_00]: by First Liberty Institute and which just this Brett Kavanaugh wrote a brief in the lower court case and is perhaps going to sit and weigh in on this case.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am going to hopefully write an article about why he should refuse himself so stay tuned for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have these two Christian nationalists, both running for this Senate seat in Texas, with Paxton being the more maga of the two, but certainly both Christian nationalists.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're locked in a battle about which of them is God's choice for the Jerry Mandor Republic of Texas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there are only two recent polls when I last looked, both from early August, one shows corn in the head by one.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other shows Paxton up by four, and then Wesley Hunt who's another Republican running has a fair chunk of the vote too.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a tight race, and so Paxton, who is the attorney general, is going to do what he can to carry favor.
[SPEAKER_00]: with the voters in the gerrymandered Republic of Texas.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he put out a press release last week that was titled, quote, attorney general, Ken Pacton encourages Texas schools to begin legal process of putting prayer back in the classroom and recommends the Lord's prayer for students.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that is the chief law enforcement officer in the state of Texas.
[SPEAKER_00]: wanting to quote, put prayer back in the classroom and recommending a specific prayer for other people's children who are required by law to be in those classrooms.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it gets worse because here is some of what the press release itself says, quote, in Texas classrooms, we want the word of God opened.
[SPEAKER_00]: The ten commandments displayed and prayers lifted up, said it's her knee-general pexton, twisted radical liberals want to erase truth with a capital T, dismantle the solid foundation that America's success and strength were built upon, and erode the moral fabric of our society.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't erode moral fabric.
[SPEAKER_00]: right?
[SPEAKER_00]: More erud moral foundations.
[SPEAKER_00]: Our nation was founded on the rock of biblical truth, biblical and truth capitalized, and I will not stand by while the far left attempts to push our country into the sinking sand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, a lot of metaphors not working and there you don't push it into the sinking sand.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sinks into the quicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, get your shit straight [SPEAKER_00]: Quote for Texas students considering how to best utilize this time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Attorney General Old Paxton encourages children to begin with the Lord's Prayer as taught by Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_00]: Quote the Lord's Prayer Matthew 6, chapter 6 verses 9 through 13, King James Version, and then it goes on to actually say.
[SPEAKER_00]: what those verses say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not quoted, noticeably not quoted, are the gu preceding verses of Matthew chapter 6, for instance verses five through six, which are just before where the Lord's prayer begin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Quote, and when thou praised, thou shall not be as the hypocrites are, for they love to praise standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets that they may be seen by men.
[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, I say unto you, they will have their reward.
[SPEAKER_00]: But thou, when thou praised, enter into thy closet, and when thou has shut the door pray to thy father, which is in secret, and thy father, which seeeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the first fucking verses about that same prayer that Paxton is pushing on other people's children.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's Jesus himself in the sermon where he lays out that Lord's prayer that Paxton is recommending says don't be like the hypocrites that like to pray where there can be seen by others.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, like in a public school classroom, maybe, per se.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says to go into your room, shut the door and pray in secret, not in public school classrooms.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, this is a real press release that the chief law enforcement officer of the state of Texas put out, and it's a gift because it really is, I mean, it is so clearly, clearly illegal.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to dive into some of the other, less on the being able to erode fabric and pushing things into sinking sand, because just, I mean, but let's get it, we'll get into some of the capital T truth, the word of God, capital stuff, the foundation of the country, stuff in a minute.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to tell you a little bit about the law that Paxton is trying to push here, which is SB 11, which was passed through the Texas legislature.
[SPEAKER_00]: This last term is back in June.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was finalized.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can go read the bill online.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will try to include it in the show notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And basically what Texas bill SB 11 does is try to create a time for a period of prayer and the reading of the Bible and other religious texts in public school.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the basically what they are do, the way the law of structures is it says that school districts and charter schools can adopt this policy and then it lays out a policy in the text of the law that allows them to, that then turns around and creates this period of prayer.
[SPEAKER_00]: and Bible reading, and you know the afterthought of other religious texts, which I mean other Christian texts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And look, this art issue has kind of already been decided.
[SPEAKER_00]: In 1985, there was a case called Wallace Versus Jeffrey, where Alabama had passed a similar law, said, look, you got to have time for prayer, and I believe meditation was the phrase that the court used.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the supreme meditation was the phrase that the state legislature in Alabama used.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Supreme Court is like, no, no, we know you're doing this to put prayer back into the public schools.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of similar language to what Paxton is using here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Paxton is making it clear that they're trying to do the exact same thing here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was 1985 Wallace versus Jeff, where you can go look it up and have fun reading.
[SPEAKER_00]: same kind of thing here.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's this is what they're trying to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have done a little bit of a twist here that I just want to flag because it could come up in a litigation and a lot of you are our nerds for this kind of thing and I say that with all the love in my heart from a fellow nerd.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's nerdy as it gets.
[SPEAKER_00]: The law says that if a student is going to participate in this, they have to do, they have to consent.
[SPEAKER_00]: The parents have to consent.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to do a signed consent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Interestingly, it says that a signed consent form must include, quote, an express waiver of the person's right to bring a claim under state or federal law, rising out of the adoption of a policy under the section, including a claim under the establishment clause of the first amendment.
[SPEAKER_00]: What they're saying there is that once you allow your student, your kid, to join this this moment of, if the school district passes this policy, that you never can sue.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to say, you can't wave that right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they even say that you can revoke your consent for your student to participate, but you remain bound by the waiver.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a new tactic.
[SPEAKER_00]: It should not work.
[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot wave a constitutional violation like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: though the way that they have worded it is that they're waving a right to bring a claim and with these courts, who knows?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we all know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's just let's talk a little bit about the way that he wrote this first of all.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you go read the press release, word of God is capitalized, 10 commandments are capitalized, [SPEAKER_00]: want to erase truth, truth is capitalized.
[SPEAKER_00]: Our nation was found on the rock of biblical truth, biblical truth, each of those words are capitalized.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, he is forcing and saying he's recommending Christianity onto other people's kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's also, he's, we're talking about a specific prayer from a specific interpretation of the Bible and calling it truth with a capital T and the Word of God with a capital W and G.
This is, this is a theological statement of capital T truth by the government.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is an abuse of power.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we, the idea that our nation was founded on the rock of biblical truth is utter nonsense.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I mean, I think probably my favorite fact is that the founders during the constitutional convention just did not turn to the Bible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just take the ten commandments that he says he wants in the public school classrooms and he's working to get into the public school classrooms.
[SPEAKER_00]: they were cited exactly zero times during the entire duration of the Constitutional Convention.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got the records.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ten Commandments never came up, not once.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had no influence on the founding of this country, on the drafting of our Constitution at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are irrelevant.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, Texas has a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be talking to some Texas activists in the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk to my friends, Mandy, and Chris, who are up in parent county who kind of Dallas Fort Worth area, and will Judy, who's down in Houston, but is doing some really great work kind of organizing across the state about what they are doing to fight back in Texas because there's so much going on in Texas.
[SPEAKER_00]: from the vouchers that are being pushed to the blue bonnet curriculum that's being pushed to the 10 commandments that are being pushed to this moment of prayer, which is unconstitutional, all of its unconstitutional being pushed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I would love to see more people doing what they are doing and fighting back at a state and local level with the support of national groups, but I will tell you having worked for two major national groups that we need vocal local activists to be successful on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, Ken Pexton is really hitting that Christian nationalist button in an effort to curry favor with the voters.
[SPEAKER_00]: And another politician who just loves to pull on that Christian nationalist lever is Ryan Walters in Oklahoma.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you may have seen that Ryan Walters was instituting some sort of ideological testing to keep woke teachers out of the state of Oklahoma.
[SPEAKER_00]: Prager you was going to be testing teachers from California, New York, want to move to Oklahoma to indoctrinate their children.
[SPEAKER_00]: All bullshit turns out it was all bullshit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And big props to him and Meta over the friendly atheist for running this all down.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a fun story to read.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will link it in the show notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Prager you is not going to be testing woke teachers.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I mean, with teacher is going to want to move.
[SPEAKER_00]: from California or New York to Oklahoma.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no shade on Oklahoma, but it is the lowest state in the country because of Ryan Walter's utter mismanagement of the Department of Education there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now it is the lowest state in terms of rankings for education.
[SPEAKER_00]: No teachers going to want to go there to suffer the kind of abuse and deal with the kind of bullshit that he is spreading all over that state.
[SPEAKER_00]: using his official state power.
[SPEAKER_00]: But basically, this is...
This pranker you test to keep book teachers out of Oklahoma is bullshit and propaganda and marketing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So haven't met a took the test and essentially it's forcing you to pick the right answer to these questions.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for instance, it doesn't you don't take it and just get a pass or a fail.
[SPEAKER_00]: You are stuck staying in the test until you selected the answer that Prager you wants you to select.
[SPEAKER_00]: and haven't did do this and the best thing ever about this story is that you got a certificate of completion that was misspelled they misspelled certify on the certificate of completion after you completed this this propaganda test that's kind of like out of 1984 so to give you just one example which heaven says was [SPEAKER_00]: Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness of by and for the people one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all or One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all [SPEAKER_00]: real interesting that they have those two as options and of course the right option is under God and if you were to choose the option without that you again you don't fail they just prompt you to say nope nope you think a little harder or something along those lines and force you to say under God and I just point this out because this is all emblematic [SPEAKER_00]: PragerU is not a university, it's a propaganda mill.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Walters is a super-intended, but he's more interested in promoting Christian National as propaganda than doing any kind of governing.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is this kind of test, this ideological testing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a shit idea backed by a shitty Christian nationalist outlet that is bent on selling false narratives.
[SPEAKER_00]: to make straight white conservative Christians feel better about the fact that the collection of ideas that they use to interpret the world around them are festering pools of putresence.
[SPEAKER_00]: That they're just bad ideas that don't do a good job of interpreting the world around you unless you beat other people into submission by constant repetition of lies.
[SPEAKER_00]: their bad ideas and we all know that life is too good to waste on bad ideas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next I want to briefly cover a story that I'm reluctant to cover.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a story about the Epstein files.
[SPEAKER_00]: I promise.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's strange because this is James O'Keef who is historically done a bunch of terrible sort of undercover is not the right word, but he records people without their consent and then.
[SPEAKER_00]: drops the footage into media in a way that destroys people and liberal people and organizations.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you remember that stuff with acorn, he's done some stuff with plant parenthood.
[SPEAKER_00]: But really, this is a story about how corrupt captured and broken the Department of Justice is, but it's a story that we're all going to take with a very big grain of salt because the O'Keefe Media Group is this far-right media organization that did the secret recordings.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I am not at all saying that this is legitimate or that you should believe it, and I think we should keep our finger on the pulse of this story.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to read from what Axios is reporting and they got it from the O'Keeve Media Group.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were reporting quote that the Department of Justice's acting gap deputy chief was caught on a hidden camera saying that the government will quote redact every Republican and quote from an Epstein client list.
[SPEAKER_00]: Redact every Republican.
[SPEAKER_00]: And here's what the person actually says according to the axios, press release of the video about the video, excuse me, quote, they'll redact every Republican or conservative person in those files, leave all the liberal democratic people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and he was saying this through reporter who is doing undercover video again for the O'Keefe.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my understanding is that the DOJ's acting director is this guy named Shnitt.
[SPEAKER_00]: sounds like shit, but his shnit, he didn't know he was being recording an exiosincludes this and that he thought he was talking to in O'Pare.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had met on hinge, so, you know, I mean grain grains, grains, grains, grains of salt here, hooks.
[SPEAKER_00]: The vaccine crisis that we covered last week is about to get a lot worse, and that's because Florida just erased, it really important bar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Florida is now removing all vaccine mandates including for children attending public schools.
[SPEAKER_00]: and because what one maga see maga do, every other red state is going to have to follow suit now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we are about to get effectively half the country removing vaccine mandates for things like measles, which is lethal.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just flagging this because I did talk about the rule that Christian nationalism plays in this during the last episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when Florida's surgeon general, Joe Lapido announced this, he said, who am I to tell you what your child should put in your body?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have that right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Your body is a gift from God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, using religion to justify this brand new political stance, even though historically there's no legal precedent for this or theological precedent for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it's wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want the advantages of society, you have some fucking responsibilities.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to be able to go to the grocery store, if you want your kids to be able to attend a public school and in fact, your kids are required by law to attend a public school, if you want to be able to go to the movies, to do all of these wonderful things that we get to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: you've got some responsibilities, but we make people put on their seat belts.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a bodily autonomy argument for that in the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: You do not get to risk the health and safety of everybody else because of something that you think your God says.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amy Coney Barrett has a new book out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not out yet as we're recording this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to get a copy and I'm going to do a deep dive anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to send me a copy, I'd rather do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do a look into this, but there have been a bunch of new stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to read for myself before I weigh in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not looking forward to that read though.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have been following along, I've been posting all of my reads on my Instagram account as in Mike 10 or 15 book batches.
[SPEAKER_00]: The next batch should become pretty soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm up near 85 or 90ish.
[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that, books on the ear.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the ways that I am coping with this disaster.
[SPEAKER_00]: And normally I try to read.
[SPEAKER_00]: a book that I expect to disagree with or by people who I know I disagree with every fourth or fifth book or so, but I've been doing it a lot less this year because you know coping, but I will make an exception for this one and dive in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently she got a $2 million advance for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's only been on the court for five years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, in addition to not being able to weigh in on Amy Coney Barrett, but will promise to do so in the future Trump spoke at the Religious Liberty Commission meeting yesterday Monday, but again we're recording this as always on the Friday before it drops.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what he or the commission said.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll look at that again sometime in the future, but I will say this because the line-up for the commission meeting is telling.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's supposed to be focusing on public schools over the next few meetings, staff, students, et cetera, the religious freedom violations that they're facing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think coaches that want to [SPEAKER_00]: There are sort of two broad ways that religious freedom can be violated by politicians.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is an oversimplification, but it may be a way for you to understand this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the first way that your religious freedom can be violated is by politicians and officials abusing public power, power the belongs to we the people, and which we the people have placed in a particular office.
[SPEAKER_00]: but the individual who occupies that office is abusing that power to impose their personal religion on all of us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now that is the vast majority of the violations that we see in this country.
[SPEAKER_00]: Politicians abusing their power, a power they do not have, to impose their religion on us.
[SPEAKER_00]: And worse, many politicians think this kind of abuse is not only a right, but is [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the second sort of strand of violation of religious freedom comes when the government actively prevents or suffocates the free exercise of religion.
[SPEAKER_00]: And rarely does this happen to Christians in the United States.
[SPEAKER_00]: It will happen to minority religions from time to time.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's often something that pops up in the context of prisons.
[SPEAKER_00]: The textbook case of this was Lou Kumi Babalu I versus City of Hylaya, a Supreme Court case.
[SPEAKER_00]: I talk about it in American Crusade, where this church wants to open into Miami suburb, and the city passes all of these new rules and regulations to prevent the church from opening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Andrew, how could a church be prevented from opening in Miami in the United States in the 1990s?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because this was a Santa Rea church that was also going to practice animal sacrifice, so people lost their minds.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of the core cop right, so you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't, you can't gerrymander us.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can gerrymander your regulations to effectively refuse to allow a church to open.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, see a lot of this kind of strand of case free exercise case coming out of jails, where people's rights are curtailed anyway, and I have the desperate desire to sometimes do a dive and say, look, we don't let these people who are in jail vote, we don't let give them freedom of movement, they lose a lot of their rights in jail, in fact, that's part of the punitive aspect of being in jail.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are we allowing them to exercise the religion freely in jail?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very curious about why That is a right that they get to keep anyway That's for a deeper dive later on.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to hear people's thoughts on that But this is a much much rare or type of violation and it is it is almost non-existent when we're talking about Christians In the in America [SPEAKER_00]: but I expect what we're going to hear out of this commission is that it is the only type of violation and it's only happening to Christians who are the most persecuted group in this country and how dare you think otherwise.
[SPEAKER_00]: And especially in the context of public schools like there's an old joke about prayer existing in public school as long as they're math tests.
[SPEAKER_00]: If a far off co-president Dan Barker loves this joke, so does representative Jamie Raskin.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's popular joke.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, kids can pray in public schools if they want, but for a test or before lunch or whenever so long as they're not violating the rights of other students or disturbing students education.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you can pray.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just don't get a microphone to impose your prayers on everyone else during, you know, morning announcements or to talk about that Santa Fe case that we covered during football games.
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the upside down, that is Christian nationalism, that is the stranger things world we live in now if you listen to this religious liberty commission, this is the only kind of violation that exists, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Schools are refusing to lack Christians, students exercise their religion.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, it's not the reality.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not, and if you want a deeper dive on that again, recommend American Crusade to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to end it there, folks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate your time, and a lot of you have sent me feedback recently about who you want to hear on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Things you like, some of you disagreed with me about the my short hot take on the wired article.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, keep those coming my way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and if you want to hear me do an episode on something, please let me know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate all of the feedback because a lot of times it does feel like you're screaming into avoid as fascism washes over us.
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been one nation indivisible, I'm Andrew Sidal, until next time.
