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Texts, Lies & Great Escapes

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Speaker 1

Jared continues to return donations given to him and Christy after the fire, yet many of those donations are being returned back to him and his name only after the community has learned the truth about Christie.

And while the return donations help soften the blow of the trauma that Jared's endured, the aftermath of Christie's lives and actions continue to haunt him.

Speaker 2

I called her work, so she was supposedly this regional manager making all kinds of money they're given.

I'm on COVID pay all this stuff.

I call into her work.

I explained the entire story of because I call in specifically to get myself off of her as health insurance and to tell her company, hey, there were no children when the fire happened.

They stuck the children on the health insurance without filling out the proper paperwork.

They kind of just pushed it through to help out.

Speaker 1

Jared knew his children were on Christie's health insurance.

This wasn't a surprise.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, I got papers in the mail saying, hey, we have here's the son's name, the daughter's name, here's their cards.

Speaker 1

But what he didn't know was the story Christy told her coworkers about the deaths of their twins.

Speaker 2

She's asking a million questions and it was weird questions like, hey, I'm sorry to hear about what happened.

Before I even said that there weren't any kids.

So I'm like, what do you what did you hear?

She goes, oh, well, your wife had these kids last week.

I'm like, what do you mean.

I'm like, I'm dumbfounded.

Her boss is who actually who I was on the phone with, goes, yeah, she called us from in the hospital.

It was like two days before the fire, and she's going through and sorry to hear about your daughter passing away in the hospital.

Speaker 1

The more Jared listens, the stranger and more unsettling this conversation becomes.

Speaker 2

And then she gets to the boy, Hey, we're so sorry to hear what happened to your son because the smoke inhalation that happened in the fire.

What And at this point I'm like, buck stop, we gotta step back.

Speaker 1

Christy had told her coworkers that their daughter had died in the hospital and that their son had died in the fire.

Speaker 2

They passed away at two completely different points.

We got to bring the son home and he died of the smoke inhalation.

It's mind blown.

How do you make this stuff up?

Speaker 3

Jared continued.

Speaking to Christie's box.

Speaker 1

He finds out that she wasn't a high level executive that she claimed.

Speaker 3

Rather, she was a secretary.

Speaker 2

Just like a snowball effect that the lies continue to come out, and I didn't see any of that.

Maybe it was because I wasn't looking.

Maybe I was just glazing over it.

But I don't know how someone could pull that off.

Speaker 1

As husband and wife, Jared would get all the details of what came with Christy's stressful, high profile position.

Speaker 2

It was like, hey, I had to deal with this guy quitting the warehouse problem.

Like it was so methodically thought out.

It blows my mind, it really does.

Speaker 1

Marriages are supposed to be built on trust.

Jared felt that his was, tragically it was not in more.

Speaker 3

Ways than one.

Speaker 1

Beyond faking a pregnancy, Christy had another giant secret she kept from Jared that throughout their entire relationship, she was seeing another man, her ex fiance Tom.

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

Jenny recounts how Christy kept her conversations with Tom discreet, at least on Snapchat.

Speaker 4

One day, I was laying on her bed and we were listening to music, and I wanted to turn a song on her phone and I saw that Jenny popped up and I'm Jenny, and I didn't send her a Snapchat.

Speaker 5

So.

Speaker 6

I opened it and it was her expancee.

Speaker 1

Jenny wasn't the only one that picked up on Christie's affair.

Speaker 3

The small town rumor mill also had noticed.

Speaker 7

Her ex boyfriend's truck was parked of the house or something one day and he was just sitting in this truck.

Speaker 5

He wasn't even in the hound.

Speaker 8

His neighbors called him one time and that dude that she was banging with in his driveway.

Speaker 9

That car they bought was brand new, and somehow it has twenty some thousand miles on it and they've only had it for four months, So how did that happen if you're just going to work and you know she's a professional liar.

Speaker 8

Neighbors took pictures of him, and it was our actiance that the other dude that she was still shagging.

Speaker 1

We don't know why Tom was just sitting in Jared and Christie's driveway.

Potentially there was an innocent explanation for that, but we do know something else he was up to.

Speaker 4

The ax was sending her money twenty four to seven, was always sending her money, and I had said to her multiple times, you need to stop that, like you need to block him, delete him, do whatever.

Speaker 2

Like just be done.

Speaker 4

She couldn't.

I don't know what is so in here about him that she wants, but it's it's gross and I don't like it.

Speaker 1

Melissa, Jared's attorney offered an explanation for why Tom was constantly sent money to Christy.

It was because Christy told Tom that he, and not Jared, was the father to the twins.

Speaker 10

I have the text messages in my file between Christy and another man in which she clearly states that this other man is the father to the twins and that Jared has decided to do the up standing right thing and claim to be the father.

Speaker 1

There are volumes of text messages between Christy and Tom, evidence that.

Speaker 3

Painted a picture of Christy as a woman who.

Speaker 1

Was not only faking a pregnancy, but was claiming two different men Jared and Tom, were the father.

Speaker 10

Just think what she could have done if she.

Speaker 2

Was up to good.

Speaker 3

Melissa gave us full access to the file.

Speaker 1

There were numerous sexting photos that Christy sent to Tom, multiple Zell receipts of Tom sending Christy money, and the receipts come with messages like want me or not or if you ever need anything, dear tell me.

But one text exchange really stands out.

It turns out that Tom was also engaged and expecting a child with his new fiance.

This is that text exchange between Christy and Tom, a week before Christie's due date.

Speaker 5

Christy, you chose this.

If you would have chose me months ago, me and her would be having another baby and you would have had what you've been begging for.

You can't blame me for living my life when I was thrown to the side.

Speaker 7

I don't beg you You've said all these things about our kids that I'm carrying, and that shit ain't true.

Just literally leave me alone for good.

Don't worry about our kids.

I'm so sick over this.

Fuck you, I don't even know if there's a word for you.

Speaker 5

Me not telling you isn't live.

It's not your business.

I'm just trying to be here for you, for the kids you're about to have.

Speaker 1

Christy and Tom are because she's just found out that his new fiance is also pregnant, even though all this time he knew that the twins she was pregnant with were his.

Speaker 7

It is my business.

Leave me alone.

Go be there for your pregnant Beyonce.

Speaker 5

It's not your fucking business.

I don't know where you think.

Speaker 7

That I should tell her that these are your two kids that I've been keeping a fucking secret for you.

Speaker 5

You chose that, You chose that when you chose him, But go ahead, take your screenshots and cause trouble and ruin the days leading up to the kids' birth.

Speaker 1

Christy clearly becomes agitated in her following responses, firing back with all caps and exclamation points.

Speaker 7

Oh so you do want me to tell her that our kids are due next week, and you've been meeting up with me.

Okay, so now threatened being a father to our children.

I don't need you to be their dad.

I'll take care, ask for child support, and move on with my life.

Speaker 5

I wasn't written in anything.

Speaker 7

You said start shit and ruin the birth of our kids in a week.

That's a threat.

Speaker 5

I said, ruin the day is leading up to it, because it would we would be fine, and it won't be as happy for us when the day comes.

Speaker 7

I'm so Sigrid.

Now you're insane.

Leave me alone.

Speaker 3

There's a lot to unpack regarding Christy's headspace.

Speaker 1

She's already carrying on with this monumental lie with Jared and his entire family, and yet she somehow has the bandwidth to carry this lie along with Tom as well.

Speaker 2

I find out that two weeks after I proposed, there was a message from her ex saying, hey, you better treat her right.

As soon as the kids are born, I will be getting a paternity tests.

I know they're mine, so don't screw it up.

Speaker 1

Tom had direct message Jared on Instagram, but Tom and Jared do not follow each other on Instagram, and Jared did not get the message, that is, until he thought to check his DMS after he'd served Christy with a noment papers.

Speaker 5

And I hear you proposed, and I hear she is going to say yes, since she was waiting to see what I did, even though I was told you two were going to make things work for the kids Friday night when she was with me in my hotel.

Seriously, best of luck, be civil for the kids.

Actually fuck her and she won't wander.

And when the kids are born, I will be asking for a paternity test.

She was breaking up with you for us until the pregnancy, so I'm told anyway, and it doesn't matter what it takes.

You need to make the next eight months of Christy's life as easy as possible.

I don't know if she can handle another dramatic experience.

Speaker 1

It's hard to process that Christy was pushing this lie on two fronts.

Like most things Christy did, we were left asking why was Tom an alternate backup in the event her life.

Speaker 3

With Jared imploded.

Did Christy simply.

Speaker 1

Lie to Tom in order to collect money from him for the children that did not exist, or was Tom a part of Christie's endgame all along?

And Jared was a placeholder until Tom sorted out his domestic situation with his pregnant fiance.

With two different men in her life, it's hard to know which man Christy actually wanted to be with.

Here's Jenny and her mom with their thoughts on Christy's endgame.

Speaker 11

I think it's the money.

Speaker 12

I think she was trying to steal a baby and sell it for the money.

I think she was on the computer, and I think when she got on that computer, she was chit chatting with someone from another stake and was trying to set it up to have that thing to steal a baby.

Speaker 3

She wanted a family.

Speaker 4

I don't know.

I know she wanted a little girl so bad, and the more that I thought about it, and the more that I thought about everything else, she would go to any length to get a little girl.

At this point, I feel like including possibly stealing a baby.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 3

Do you think she's capable of kidnapping a baby?

Speaker 4

You forgive her the chance, do you.

Speaker 3

Think she would go through with it?

Speaker 6

Probably?

Speaker 1

We decided that we wanted to see if we could try to get more information about what went on for the eighteen to twenty hours that Christie was in the hospital prior to calling Jared to ask him to come pick her up.

Speaker 3

I have to say.

Speaker 1

I've never done an ambush style interview before, although there's no plan to ambush, I guess I just mean unscheduled interview before.

Speaker 3

So my adrenaline is feeling a little nervous.

Speaker 1

But we're going to see if we can try to get any more answers.

Speaker 10

My name is Tresiana Boch.

This is Frank Wall.

Speaker 1

You're with iHeartRadio and we're producing a segment, a new segment on an episode that occurred in his hospital in the semer twenty twenty.

Speaker 8

We were one, I.

Speaker 1

Mean, if there was a public information officer on duties that would be available for comments.

Speaker 3

You who started to do officers a very unlaboration spor Okay.

Speaker 2

Thank you for.

Speaker 12

Good.

Speaker 2

How were you for?

Speaker 1

We just asked the check in and she said to ask you we are My name is Trecila Bonge.

Speaker 2

This is Frank Wall.

Speaker 1

We're with iHeartRadio producing a new segment and a portion of the segment revolves around an incident that took place here in December twenty twenty, and we were wondering if there was a public information officer on.

Speaker 10

Who you would be available.

Speaker 1

For comment today?

Speaker 2

More than likely?

Speaker 9

Now, okay, and the wait you think kind of the skeletons group.

Speaker 5

Okay, the best thing to do is would be a callback morow.

Speaker 2

Okay, we'll come back to morow.

Okay, who would you say, speak to patient relations for.

Speaker 1

Aod It actually makes you as the Blood heroes.

Speaker 3

By the way, it's not it's a negative story.

It's a positive story.

Speaker 2

Guine Hospital, I who you've talked to?

Speaker 10

Did you work here in December twenty?

Speaker 2

Yes?

Speaker 3

Could you answer anything?

Speaker 8

Nothing?

Nothing?

Speaker 1

Not even sit through the questions and decide what you could answer and what then?

Okay, I know nothing.

So we just got back in the car.

We were definitely turned away by the hospital.

We spoke to four people, two at the front desk, who referred us to the police officer and security guard who were standing just to the left of the table, and we asked if we could speak to the public Information officer, which is the PIO public information officer on duty about an incident that took place in the hospital in December twenty twenty.

Speaker 3

They told us nobody was.

Speaker 1

Available, gave us a card and a number to call to contact and I was trying to grease him a little bit to see if he would speak, and we asked him when did he start working at the hospital.

He said twenty twenty.

And we threw out there that the incident makes the hospital police look really good.

It's favorable, it's not negative, just to see if I could get anything out of him, and so I said, it revolves around incident where a woman tried to take a baby and you guys successfully thwarted her from allowing that to happen.

Speaker 3

And his eyes look right like absolutely he was there.

Speaker 2

Absolutely, He just.

Speaker 1

Had this super guilty look on his face like he was dying to talk.

Speaker 3

His eyes I could just see the wheels in his head turning.

Speaker 1

I pressed just a little harder, and instead of saying no comment, he just said nothing because I think he was worried that if he started to talk, he was going to say what he remembered, and he did not want to do that.

So we will call on Monday and see if we can speak to the PIO.

We made several attempts to reach the man whose name and number we were provided, as well as left several messages.

It turns out he wasn't the PIO, but rather the head of public safety at the hospital.

Speaker 3

He never returned our calls.

Speaker 1

If Christy did intend to kidnap a baby as part of her ending, it was never meant to be.

If she intended to return to tom that didn't work out either.

Meanwhile, Jared was in the process of trying to annul his marriage to Christy.

Speaker 3

What avenues did she have left?

Not many.

Speaker 2

There was a couple rumors going around, and there was a worn out for her arrest baby napping from the actual hospital itself.

But I don't know how believable that is, how much truth there is to that just hearsay?

Yeah, I would say it was hearsay, honestly, and again this is coming through the annoyment that she actually went and fought me on was then we had to get a couple of continuances, reason being sheed she didn't get a lawyer until the day before.

Her mother actually wanted to meet a fifty one fifty her and put her in a mental hospital.

I find out through the continuance she asked for she decided to go into I don't know if she was fifty one to fifty by her mother or if she voluntarily went into this treatment.

Center Center.

Speaker 1

Jared's attorney, Melissa, couldn't proceed at the pace she wanted with the annulment because Christie entered a medical treatment center.

Speaker 10

She was in Florida at an intense treatment in which she was not even permitted to contact her attorney for two to three weeks, and then she was moving to Chattanooga, Tennessee for further treatment.

And when she moved to Tennessee is when she would be able to participate in the hearing.

Speaker 1

After everything they went through, it seems that Christy got the help that she needs.

Personally, I applaud her for that.

It's extremely commendable.

It's unfortunate, however, how many lives that up ended, how many friendships destroyed, for this moment to finally happen.

Speaker 3

Here's Jenny.

Speaker 4

Her mom had actually messaged me and said like, thank you for being here for my daughter, and she's going to get the help that she needs basically, and I was like, what is happening?

Like that day that she left, her mom called her and said, you're going to go to jail, Like you're going to go to jail if you don't come with us right now.

And I'm like thinking, like, oh, They're just saying that because they just want to put you in a mental place because you just lost two children.

That's what I was thinking, And come to find out that wasn't even it.

Speaker 3

It's clear Christy needed the help.

Speaker 1

Sheila feared her daughter would go to jail if she didn't leave with her immediately to the treatments and her Jenny had her own theories why.

She thinks Sheila was afraid that local authorities would arrest Christie if she stuck around.

Speaker 4

It could be that it could be the money.

It could have been the faking everything.

It could have been because they faked it in the donations of the fire, of the babies, it could have been, it could have been all that.

Speaker 1

The fire raised suspicions with everyone involved in the story.

Speaker 3

For Jenny, it was no different.

Speaker 4

I think she was getting rid of everything that reminded her of those babies, the room, anything, just the house in general.

Speaker 3

Well what do you think?

Speaker 2

What if?

Speaker 3

What if Jared died in that fire?

Speaker 6

So that's the that's the million other questions.

Speaker 4

I don't know.

Speaker 1

Jenny had a final thought to share in regard to the fire.

Speaker 6

You never asked me about the ring.

Speaker 3

I don't know anything about what ring, No wedding.

No, it was missing.

Speaker 4

I couldn't find it.

Speaker 3

Do you think she pawned it?

Speaker 4

Yeah, or she has it or she had it somewhere.

Speaker 6

It was expensive.

He paid it in cash because it was like last.

Speaker 4

Minute, like like they are closing type thing, and he paid in cash.

Speaker 12

From what I read, and she said, there was one plan it in the bathroom where the fire started.

Speaker 6

This whatever, there was a fake ring.

Speaker 12

There was a fake ring that a real ring wouldn't burn, a real like it was a silver, it was a silver whatever.

Speaker 4

Set diamond set and he specifically said the way that this was all set, like the diamond on it, like it wouldn't it wouldn't burn.

Speaker 1

Story of somebody planted a fake ring in the bathroom of the house before it burnt down so that it would seem like that was the real ring.

Speaker 3

And that's what happened to it.

Speaker 4

She did it herself, or she did it herself, or she pawned the ring beforehand and bought that one off the Amazon.

Speaker 1

With Christy being forced to leave Avella by her mother, she would have her final face to face moment with Jenny.

Speaker 4

She just kept on saying to me from the time we left my actual apartment to the stairwell, she said, you're still going to be my best friend.

You're still my friend, Like she just kept on asking me that.

I just kept on saying, yeah, of course, I'm going to still be your friend.

Like I like, you're gonna get through this.

I'll talk to you whenever I can't, you know, like every day.

Speaker 1

Christie's mother arrived, it was time to say goodbye, and.

Speaker 3

Then you've never spoken to her again.

Speaker 6

She actually called me.

Speaker 1

In between Christy leaving and calling Jenny from her treatment center, Jenny was contacted by Jared's sister.

His sister told Jenny the entire truth about what happened with Christy.

Jenny was in shock and really hurt.

That's when Christy called her.

Speaker 2

From treatment and she was like, everything okay.

Speaker 4

And I was holding back to her because I had just knocked out everything, and I'm like, yeah, you know, like I just I reset my phone and I made up a story of how I reset my phone and how all my locations just her off for everyone, and she was like okay.

And after that conversation she said, I loved you, and I didn't even say it back to her honestly, and I hung up, and then I have a message from her mom saying, you know, like she's going to go get the help that she needs.

But she didn't exactly put it in that term.

Speaker 1

But I think that Christie knew when you guys had that final phone call, that you knew that everything was a lie, and she just didn't have the guts to say I'm sorry.

Speaker 4

Yes.

Speaker 3

What makes you think that because.

Speaker 4

She never tried to reach out over.

Speaker 1

Again, Christie's mom wanted her to get into an inpatient mental facility.

Speaker 3

There's two to look at it.

Speaker 1

Non cynically, Sheila wants her daughter to get the help that she needs, but strategically, entering a long term treatment facility effectively postpones any annulment, which Jared was desperately.

Speaker 3

Trying to get done.

Speaker 1

It also provides cover from any potential criminal charges that could have come out of all of this.

Jared's lawyer, Melissa felt the challenges of Christie's abrupt departure from a vienna she ran.

Speaker 10

And we had a very difficult time moving forward because I couldn't locate her.

We were very thankful when she retained an attorney because then I had a point of contact, and then that attorney filed the petition for a continuance and gave us some additional information as to where she was, and I believe I even requested proof that where she stated she was.

I said, I don't believe you.

I want to know exactly where it is, and I want documentation that that's where she's at.

Speaker 1

Christy's location was uncovered, she had legal counsel.

Jared and Melissa were ready to proceed in earnest, but Christy was ready to fight.

Speaker 2

She wore her money.

She's like, hey, I lost all this stuff, and she put astronomico amounts of value on these items that she lost.

She felt entitled to fifty percent of that.

Speaker 1

When Jared's lawyer, Melissa realized Christie was claiming items lost in the fire, let's just say she wasn't having it.

Speaker 10

Essentially said, you're ridiculous, this isn't going to happen.

Speaker 3

I was a pit bull.

Speaker 10

I was not going to back down.

There was nobody that was going to take advantage of Jared while I was with so I spoke with her counsel.

She had no idea.

She was oblivious.

She believed that Christy was pregnant.

And I kind of laughed in her face.

It was all over her phone, and I'm like no, and I'm like, I have the proof, and I gave her some of the backstory, and she indicated to me, well, Christie is willing to go through with Yanoma, but she wants her stuff.

She wants her money.

Speaker 1

Even Christie's own counsel was in the dark about her lafe and deceit.

Speaker 10

I once again laughed in her face, and I told her about the fire that go fund me, the money that she had taken, what my client had done.

Speaker 2

With the money.

Speaker 10

I mean, if there's anybody that, in my opinion, I like decide for, it's the good guy and the underdog.

And Jared was one hundred percent the good guy and this matter.

So I was going to be a pipole.

I was not going to let her get anything.

So she provided me with a list of things.

I spoke with Jared about it, and of course it was all in the fire and she had indicated her council indicated she wanted the money that he received for those items.

Well, you know what, Jared didn't claim those items, so he never received any funds from those so there was no funds for him to give.

In fact, he was working his way to pay back people on the GoFundMe from the money she took, so he was paying out a pocket for money.

In my opinion, she stole just to make things right.

There was no way I was letting her get any more money.

Speaker 2

No way.

Speaker 1

Jared received his annulment on his birthday, and he couldn't have asked for a better gift.

Speaker 2

I actually ended up getting the annulment on my birthday.

I wasn't even worried about the birthday.

I'm a free man again.

It's done it over with.

And this was drug out for four and a half months, and I'm just psyching the pressure and relief.

I felt, Hey, I can move on with my life.

It's my life again.

Speaker 1

The hearing was conducted over zoom.

Jared had his camera on.

Speaker 3

Christy didn't I have.

Speaker 2

My camera on?

Once I hear that it was going to be ruled in my favor, I'm sitting there smiling at the camera.

I know she can see me.

I guess I just wanted to kind of rub it in her face, like, hey, you're a terrible person.

Speaker 3

But she did not turn her camera on.

Speaker 2

She'd never turned her camera on.

Speaker 3

Did you hear a voice?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Yes, And I actually had my mother in there with me, which what a what a complete I don't even know how to describe it.

I've never seen my mom so emotional other than the day.

Speaker 1

Jared's mother, Kathy isn't big on showing emotions, positive or.

Speaker 2

Negative, but she was so happy and relieved.

She was more relieved than I was.

And it was in having her friend be my lawyer for the annulment that just kind of made a bitter sweet to her.

It was nice to see my mom finally smile again.

Speaker 1

And Jared was thrilled that this show of emotion was a joyful one.

Speaker 8

I was relieved and glad it went through so we didn't move on with our lives.

Speaker 2

And it was a true genuine smile and being happy and relieved.

And so I'm like, hey, let's go to breakfast before the annoyment.

She goes, absolutely not, I'll throw up.

I'm like, well what, I'm like, Well, that's that's all right, mom, I'll sit here with you.

Speaker 1

I was able to review the annulment paperwork, and in it, Christy had to confess for once the.

Speaker 2

Truth on the record.

She ended up saying there were never any children, and that was that solidified it to me, to everyone in the courts, the law, there were never any children and everything was a lie.

Speaker 3

It was satisfying for Jared's law Melissa as well.

Speaker 10

One thing I really wanted to ask her because we had to set the groundwork in the hearing as to what the deception was, and she had never admitted to him that it wasn't true.

So I point asked her, were there any kids?

And she paused, she said no, And that, in my mind or my belief, is the first time he actually heard it from her mom.

Because I did not want this lingering in his mind at all.

I did not want there to be any question in the future whether he made the right decision or not.

I wanted her to admit that she did to him.

Speaker 1

Melissa proved Christie's deceit.

She helped Jared be free from this nightmare.

And even though she couldn't prove some other things about Christy, it didn't stop her from having her own opinions on the specific the fire.

Speaker 10

Do you think she set the buyer?

Yes, one hundred percent, because of the history of the prior fires, and I think this woman could do anything and I think it probably helped with her whole storyline because if they had stayed together, she could have built upon the trauma of the fire and how it affected her and therefore impacted the babies, which led to their death.

And if you're going to build sympathy, I mean house fire, baby deaths.

Speaker 3

Melissa was convinced that Christie set that fire.

Speaker 6

She was also.

Speaker 3

Convinced that Jared was the victim of a crime.

Do you consider yourself the victim of a crime?

Speaker 2

Yes?

Speaker 1

After everything Jared endured, it would be up to him to decide if criminal charges against Christy was a fight he wanted to pursue.

Speaker 10

He could have filed private criminal complaint at a magistrate's office and then it would go to the DA directly, and the DA would then determine to move forward.

But he didn't need that additional battle.

He needed closure and for it to be over.

And I don't know that he ever wanted to punish her.

He just wanted it over.

Speaker 1

When Jared and I sat down, it was four and a half months after the births and two weeks after his annulment was final.

Speaker 3

I expressed to him that I was really glad to see that he was back on his feet.

Speaker 2

What makes you think I'm back on my feet.

I'm not the same person that I was before this happened.

Speaker 1

Jared wasn't the only one that thought he was forever changed by all this.

It's a sentiment shared by many people in Jared's life, including his mom, dad and mom.

Speaker 8

I think there was going to be trust issues there, and hopefully will grow as a as a person.

But I definitely think there's gonna be some issues there.

Speaker 9

Well, I think he's in a good frame of mind and you have to learn from this kind of stuff.

Yeah, it just doesn't happen on TV.

I guess he can't think of every girlfriend he's ever going to have like this one.

You know this probably Well, let's hope it never happens to him again.

Speaker 5

You know.

Speaker 9

I tell him what I think, and you know, right or wrong.

I hope it helps him some.

Speaker 10

You know.

Speaker 11

I don't think he lets on to us how much it actually affected him.

I think he like puts on a great face, but I think it really did affect him.

So I don't know that he's letting people know how that affected it.

I think it's going to take him a while to personally be able to trust again.

So I think he just needs to heal before he tries to date.

Speaker 1

As our initial time together drew to a close, I wondered if Jared had any advice for people out there after experiencing what he endured.

Speaker 2

That's a tough one.

Don't take do your research, and I hate to say it, but question these big decisions in your life.

Don't say Okay, well she's or someone's pregnant.

Question it.

Get proof, and I think COVID made that a lot easier to pull off.

Hopefully no one ever has to go through this again.

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

But do your research.

Speaker 1

There's no rule book on how to navigate such trauma, especially when it's so confusing and doesn't seem to make any sense.

Jared and those closest to him coked in their own ways.

His parents Kathy and David were hit especially hard.

Speaker 11

Oh.

Speaker 8

I was devastated.

I just couldn't.

I couldn't understand.

I couldn't wrap my head around it.

I had no idea what happened to.

Speaker 9

People were coming up with adolences.

Some know, some don't, Some some know the story.

I mean, you got to tell this ft up story, you know, probably two hundred times to everybody that walks in the door, because they're all friends.

The relatives live all around us here at Oh my wife was.

Speaker 3

Ecstatic, ready to be a grandma.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9

She cried for two weeks after.

Speaker 4

This, and he told him the whole story, and uh yeah, we were still in the hospital and just in disbelief.

Speaker 2

Ended up the best thing that happened could have happened.

And he doesn't have a wife or kids, so he's better off.

Speaker 9

You know, you don't know what to do for there's nothing I can do by way of dealing with stuff, is just kind of keeping busy in and going and doing something.

So we went over.

I went over and started working on the house.

Speaker 8

I had a lot of mixed emotions about that one.

After finding out everything.

I was glad that there was no babies, But on the other hand, I was sad that there was no babies.

Speaker 1

But the thoughts of Christy interfere with their healing.

If they had a chance to say something to her, if they had a chance to get some level of closure from her, what would those closest to Jared say and do?

Speaker 11

If you were to ask me this question, I would have said, I would have probably punched in her mouth.

Speaker 2

I'd probably walk away.

Speaker 8

I don't have nothing nice to say to her.

Speaker 9

No, I'm probably done with it, you know, because she's a liar, So no matter what you asked her, you're not going to get to truth.

Speaker 4

Hey wouldn't be worried.

It would be my fist.

Speaker 6

I was sad at first, Now I'm mad.

Speaker 1

Jenny offers her final insight on Christie's endgame.

Speaker 6

I don't think she can have children.

I think that's what the main thing of this is that she wants a family.

She wants to actually have, like something of hers that she didn't have when she was a child herself.

Speaker 1

When I heard Jenny say that, sad for Christy a child from a broken and abusive home and all she wanted was a family of her own.

But her desires don't justify the means she took to try to achieve that dream.

Speaker 4

I hate how everything went down, and I hate the fact that she did that.

But I also hate the fact that, knowing what I know now of her family situation, that could have been the reason why this was all caused.

That's what I hate.

That's what makes me sad because she is a very nice girl.

Speaker 6

She would do anything for anyone, you know, she would go to the mint and back.

But to do all of this for attention?

Speaker 4

Why why people don't change completely overnight.

Speaker 2

It's a gradual thing and it's hard to get past those bad qualities.

You never grow out of them, especially if your morals are incorrect.

I mean, that's what you live by, and unfortunately I chose incorrectly, and I really want to harp on it.

Make sure you know who you're wanting to spend the rest of your life with.

Speaker 1

We made an attempt to reach out to Christy to see if she wanted to tell.

Speaker 3

Her side of the story.

Speaker 1

She declined to speak to us.

We did find out some news after completing her medical treatment.

Christy has relocated and is living in a different state.

She's in a new relationship and engaged, and she recently gave birth to a baby girl.

Speaker 3

We found all this out on Facebook.

Speaker 1

The Unborn is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Audio Up and Jesuit Press Productions, created by Trisila Fotch and Frank Rodriguez Malt, Produced by Alvin Cohen and Rachel Foley.

Executive produced by Jimmy Jellinek, David Thwaites, and Jared Gustave.

Speaker 3

Edited by Gerard Bauer and Preston Dawson.

Sound design and mixing by Jeremiah Zimmerman.

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