Hearts of Oak: And hello, Hearts of Oak.

Thanks so much for joining us once again for a news review.

Hearts of Oak: And it's been forever since with David Atherton on.

As I bumped into him about Hearts of Oak: a month ago, I thought, David, you need to come on again.

Hearts of Oak: So thank you, David, for your time today.

David Atherton: My third visit, I think.

Hearts of Oak: It is.

Going well.

All good so far.

But anything that happened in this interview, so we'll see.

Hearts of Oak: But no, all good so far.

And of course, follow David at DavidAtherton20.

make Hearts of Oak: sure and follow him on x uh for Hearts of Oak: the i mean so much information he's similar Hearts of Oak: i think to david van sometimes i've guests on and they Hearts of Oak: don't post that much other times i guess on and they post Hearts of Oak: a lot and david certainly is in that category so you'll never be short of material Hearts of Oak: if you're following what he has been putting up so let's see the the first one Hearts of Oak: actually just for the viewers listeners let me just say something internally Hearts of Oak: and thanks so much for your support you can thank Many of you give like five a month or ten a month.

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Hearts of Oak: Not that he charges a fee.

David Atherton: Well, you told me the check was in the post.

Hearts of Oak: I was going to say that.

No, haven't got to that level yet.

Hearts of Oak: But soon, soon and very soon.

But the first story is really this big story off Hearts of Oak: the last year, and that is Lucy Connolly.

Hearts of Oak: There are so many different stories we could put up.

This was from the Daily Mail.

Hearts of Oak: Lucy Connolly is pictured for the first time since her release from prison.

Hearts of Oak: Tory councillor's wife has seen enjoying freedom and walking her dogs after Hearts of Oak: 10 months behind bars for a racist tweet.

And she was on Dan Wooden yesterday.

Hearts of Oak: I think I watched all of it, actually, an hour with Dan.

Really good.

Hearts of Oak: But, David, maybe for the U.S.

viewers who may not be 100% sure who Lucy Connelly Hearts of Oak: is, I know you commented yesterday about her having contact with White House officials.

Hearts of Oak: Maybe fill in the viewers who may not be following Lucy's story.

David Atherton: Yeah, sure.

Second generation migrants, Axel Rudicabana, stabbed to death three David Atherton: little girls at a Taylor Swift themed party.

David Atherton: They were aged between seven and 11 years of age.

David Atherton: And also another 20 other little girls around that age were stabbed as well.

David Atherton: And Lucy Connolly, in reaction to it, sent out a tweet, which was, David Atherton: you've got to say, it was to be balanced relatively incendiary.

David Atherton: She was calling for the asylum hotels to be burnt down for all I care.

David Atherton: If that makes me a racist, so be it.

David Atherton: For that, she was sentenced to 31 months in jail.

David Atherton: Under America's First Amendment, that would not even be an arrestable offence.

David Atherton: And she is seen in this country as a former political prisoner, David Atherton: like you might have got Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union or in China today.

David Atherton: Because your views are antithetical to the regime, you have to go to jail for that.

David Atherton: There's also a guy called Wayne Cousins, who the worst thing he said in his David Atherton: tweet was he condoned the burning of cars.

and he's serving three years for that.

David Atherton: And, you know, again, it would not be an arrestable offence in America.

David Atherton: You know, if you really want me to get to the point, Lucy Connolly has been David Atherton: doing a round of interviews yesterday with us and Pearson of The Telegraph and David Atherton: Dan Wootten on his Outspoken program.

David Atherton: Do catch up with them.

Alison Pearson, double L in Alison, and Dan Wootten, Outspoken.

David Atherton: I've got some fantastic content, full interviews with her.

And in fact, David Atherton: Lucy Conley was asked by Alison Pearson, do you see yourself as a political commissioner?

David Atherton: And she said, absolutely.

And I'm not the only one.

David Atherton: I feel such a dirty Brit at the moment.

David Atherton: My loyalties lie with Trump and Vance than they do with Keir Starmer.

David Atherton: You could even call me a tracer in some respects, but I'm sorry, David Atherton: that's how I feel.

America is leading the way.

David Atherton: But no fear, America.

Britain is fighting back.

I'm fighting back.

David Atherton: And let me also say there was another outrageous arrest yesterday.

I don't really see it.

David Atherton: A guy who is a citizen journalist with Fox Populi.

David Atherton: He went to a migrant hotel and filmed what was going on inside.

David Atherton: And he ate a bowl of chicken pasta.

David Atherton: The police turned up his house yesterday, 10 of them, five in riot gear, David Atherton: ready to bash his front door down.

David Atherton: And he lives with his disabled mum.

He was taken away, arrested, taken into custody.

David Atherton: He's been charged with burglary.

David Atherton: It just beggars belief.

And then you had that migrant down at the Britannia Hotel in Docklands.

David Atherton: It's in the city of London.

It's our Wall Street area these days.

David Atherton: And he entered the home of a blind 80-year-old woman.

David Atherton: Luckily, his niece was cleaning the place and chased him out.

David Atherton: And the police stopped him.

They didn't even bother to arrest him.

David Atherton: They just took him back to his hotel like a bloody taxi service.

David Atherton: It had no charges.

And I believe he was taken to a different hotel to get him out of the area.

David Atherton: You know, this is how outrageous it is.

Lucy Connolly, let's go back to Lucy Connolly.

David Atherton: Lucy Connolly will be the downfall of Keir Starmer and hopefully the Labour government.

David Atherton: You know, you see my face is creasing up at the moment in anger at the moment.

David Atherton: Pete, this country is in a tinderbox.

And the other thing as well, David Atherton: which may well be happening soon, I pray it doesn't, there is chatter of...

David Atherton: Of ISIS terrorist attacks.

We've let in so many, we've let in so many channel David Atherton: migrants and probably 5%, 10% are absolutely ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Islamist headbangers.

David Atherton: And to back me up, at least a quarter of the schools in this country have received David Atherton: instructions what to do in the face of a terrorist attack.

David Atherton: And I gave you the case of Southport where where Axel Riddickabana butchered David Atherton: three girls and attacked all the other people as well.

David Atherton: This could well be happening nationwide in this country.

Britain will become David Atherton: the new Israel, surrounded by militant Muslims who wish us harm.

Hearts of Oak: It's a huge concern.

I share your concern 100%, David.

Hearts of Oak: Let's do some stories around this attack on free speech.

And maybe this is a few on the U.S.

Hearts of Oak: Angle, because I think it's key and the pressure coming from the U.S.

Hearts of Oak: This was from Infowars exclusive.

Hearts of Oak: U.S.

said to sanction key staff at U.K.'s speech regulator, a senior official at the U.S.

Hearts of Oak: State Department, to set the sanction key personnel of the U.K.'s main regulator Hearts of Oak: of Internet broadcast and telecoms, which is Ofcom, for infringing on U.S.

Hearts of Oak: Citizens and U.S.

companies.

They're talking about travel restrictions, Hearts of Oak: I guess banning anyone from traveling to the US if they are part of Ofcom.

Hearts of Oak: Again, this is the US applying pressure and I just hope and pray that some of Hearts of Oak: that pressure gives results.

David Atherton: Well, yes, absolutely.

By the way, Ofcom in this country are reformally known as Ofcommunist.

David Atherton: And if you like your conspiracy theories, the CEO of Ofcom is the usual guest David Atherton: of the World Economic Forum.

David Atherton: And so anyway, so, yeah, it's a very, very depressing time at the moment.

David Atherton: But I think Ofcom, I think Keir Starmer and his Labour government and Ofcom David Atherton: are bitten more often than they can chew.

David Atherton: I've got to be careful because I've got some inside information on this as well.

David Atherton: I've got to be very careful what I say, actually.

David Atherton: I don't want to put some people in the poo.

David Atherton: But my understanding is that there will be a major federal case in America, David Atherton: where if Ofcom go – I think Ofcom provisionally fined 4chan £20,000, David Atherton: that's about $30,000, $25,000, $30,000, and there's going to be daily penalties on that.

David Atherton: My understanding as well is that 4chan will refuse to pay those penalties.

David Atherton: We would probably give Ofcom the option to block 4chan being broadcast in Britain.

David Atherton: Although if he got a VPN like what I got I'm now actually speaking to you from David Atherton: Los Angeles at the moment.

Hearts of Oak: But it's so funny because I think the government they were telling citizens Hearts of Oak: no, you're not allowed to use VPNs There was a statement a week ago I think, wow, Hearts of Oak: it's not for you to tell us how but it will be, we in the UK will be like North Hearts of Oak: Korea or China having to use VPNs to access the news the government hasn't approved Well,

David Atherton: Exactly.

You know, it's a very, very slippery slope.

Let me give you an analogy from history.

David Atherton: The Online Safety Act, which is what is what behind this, it's under the guise David Atherton: of, oh, we're trying to protect children.

David Atherton: I have no problems with protecting children and things like that.

David Atherton: I've got no problems with it.

You know, where are the bloody parents in this David Atherton: who should be supervising their teenagers?

David Atherton: But that's a different argument.

But also as well, one of the things that was David Atherton: blocked on mine, on my buy-off com, was information on rape gangs.

David Atherton: Surely every 13-, 12-year-old, 11-year-old, 14-year-old girl should know about David Atherton: Pakistani rape gangs.

You know, and...

David Atherton: You can't educate young people in something like that.

You know, David Atherton: foul language, pornography, of course.

David Atherton: But when it comes to important information that's going to young people, David Atherton: I think that should be exempt.

Hearts of Oak: I agree.

Here's another angle on this.

Hearts of Oak: And this was, I hadn't actually seen it.

Hearts of Oak: And Bernie had mentioned to me in the Prelude of Interviewing Her about two weeks ago, 10 days ago.

Hearts of Oak: This was in the New York Post.

And this is why it's interesting, Hearts of Oak: the U.S.

angle on this.

And the U.K.

Hearts of Oak: Free speech crackdown sees up to 30 people a day arrested for petty offenses Hearts of Oak: such as retweets and cartoons.

Hearts of Oak: And that was the headline.

The picture underneath is the actual physical copy.

Hearts of Oak: And they had a great, I love this title, Britain Faces a Speech Crime Crisis.

Hearts of Oak: I mean, kudos to whoever wrote that statement, because that is exactly, Hearts of Oak: it sums up the position in the UK.

Hearts of Oak: But maybe Bernie, someone who was arrested again for, it's termed information Hearts of Oak: the government doesn't approve is correct.

Hearts of Oak: Do you want me to mention about what happened to Bernie in that case?

David Atherton: Yeah, yes, indeed.

Well, funnily enough, I've got a story about this one as well.

David Atherton: I was actually the first person in Britain, relatively high profile, David Atherton: who was threatened with arrest for an ex-post.

David Atherton: Basically, it said, F Hamas, F Palestine, F Islam.

David Atherton: And I was threatened with arrest for that.

I was under threat of arrest.

David Atherton: I had to go to a police station.

And this was now 18 months ago.

David Atherton: I was too embarrassed to put it on BX to admit that I'd done it.

David Atherton: So that's the reason I went under the radar for it.

David Atherton: Yeah, Bernie, again, we're going back to the Southport incident.

David Atherton: Whereby she put out a speculative ex-post that she garnered the information from Telegram.

David Atherton: It was wrong that it was an ISIS terrorist and what have you.

David Atherton: Although I can probably exclusively reveal to your listeners and viewers that, David Atherton: that Axel Rudolf Obama could quite possibly could have been an Islamic convert.

David Atherton: What he's definitely known is that he had an Al-Qaeda manual to make a poison, a rice in poison.

David Atherton: I'm told by more than one source that he attends on Fridays a Muslim religious David Atherton: gathering.

And also, this is genuinely not known.

David Atherton: Some of the victims of families of Southport got in touch with me directly.

David Atherton: Some of the stuff I can tell you is unprintable, for want of a better phrase.

David Atherton: But one of the things they did say was about Riddicabana, they took the chemical David Atherton: they thought was rising to Porton down for analysis.

David Atherton: And in and around the 11th of August, it was confirmed to be rising.

David Atherton: And the chief constable of Merseyside Police wanted to, I think her surname's David Atherton: Kennedy, she wanted to describe it as a terrorist incident.

David Atherton: The Home Secretary, in fact, Cooper, overruled her, and they've kept it quiet ever since.

David Atherton: It was terrorism, possibly Islamic, and not people in the country and the world know about it.

David Atherton: I don't have definitive proof, but I do have different sources that confirm David Atherton: the same thing, and some facts are, I can back up 100%.

David Atherton: Wow.

Hearts of Oak: I kind of think of Stella Creasy, Yvette Cooper, Jess Phillips, Hearts of Oak: Witches of Eastwick kind of comes into my mind when I think of them.

Hearts of Oak: But there's one other story just on the U.S.

Hearts of Oak: Because, again, this is key.

And you had mentioned about Lucy talking to White Hearts of Oak: House, and that's the only way we're going to get pressure.

Hearts of Oak: And this is the outcome of some of that pressure.

Hearts of Oak: JD Vance forced UK to drop demand for backdoor access onto iPhones.

Hearts of Oak: Sadly, not for my Android device, but that's an interesting move.

I know.

Hearts of Oak: Home Office agrees to withdraw order, seeking to force Apple to break its device Hearts of Oak: encryption.

And this was all about a backdoor so the government could, Hearts of Oak: I guess, keep us all safe and check up on this.

Hearts of Oak: But the U.S.

said, no, no, U.S.

company, you're not doing that.

Hearts of Oak: And they were forced to back down.

David Atherton: Sure, absolutely, yeah.

No, I think Tulsi Gabbard had something to do with this as well.

David Atherton: So let's hand out all the plaudits to all the people in America as well.

David Atherton: Well, you know, I don't know.

David Atherton: I think it's probably fair to say that Keir Starber, as Prime Minister of Britain, David Atherton: has done more U-turns than a less car driver.

David Atherton: That's one down.

That's one victory.

I'm pretty sure the online safety act will David Atherton: crumble before his very, very eyes.

David Atherton: And I really do wish the Americans the best on this one.

David Atherton: Again, I go back to the fact of cheering on the Americans rather than standing up for my own country.

David Atherton: Obviously, the bottom line here is the establishment, the swamp, David Atherton: as we call it, the blob, has lost the narrative now.

David Atherton: Now we have social media, we have blogs, we have citizen journalists, David Atherton: we have YouTubers, Rumble people.

David Atherton: They completely lost the narrative.

And we can fact check them 24-7, David Atherton: 365, and even 366 on a leap year.

David Atherton: What really staggered me is that amongst the youngsters in their 20s, David Atherton: they get most of their news from the internet rather than the main channels David Atherton: like BBC, Sky and ITV in Britain.

It's been an absolute revolution.

David Atherton: I think you said you get at least 100,000 viewers on this channel.

David Atherton: That is more than the BBC news.

David Atherton: It's probably more than the BBC and Sky News put together.

I think your biggest David Atherton: rival these days is GB News.

And guess what they do?

David Atherton: They actually cater for their audience rather than tell them what they should David Atherton: know, you know?

So, yeah, this is a revolution.

David Atherton: And obviously the reaction to it has been a crackdown, a crackdown.

David Atherton: And the most egregious thing is the intimidation and the use of the police forces, David Atherton: kind of terrorism, and also the secret services to suppress what is going on in this country.

David Atherton: You know, it could be a conspiracy theory.

it could be my paranoia it could be my paranoia, David Atherton: and I once said to police I was approached I said I really don't have any trouble David Atherton: here my name is David Otherson, David Atherton: this is my telephone if you have any trouble give me a shout I'll try and sort David Atherton: it out for you I'll give you a hand doing it you've got my address he said so I am.

David Atherton: So indeed so yeah I'm sorry conspiracy theory or coincidence It could be whatever.

David Atherton: But when the online safety act came into being, I logged on to my X account.

David Atherton: The first thing I do in the morning is log on to X.

David Atherton: Apparently, it told me I'd logged it out the previous night.

David Atherton: Never, ever do that.

David Atherton: I sent an ex-post to the police.

Do you like my DMs?

David Atherton: Susie's nice, isn't she?

Hearts of Oak: This is on, of course, the online safety actor bill.

It can be up to 10% of the global turnover.

Hearts of Oak: So that puts it in the context you're talking about tens of billions of dollars.

Hearts of Oak: That could be the fine.

And that's why Gab and Bitch should have pulled out.

Hearts of Oak: And I'm sure other companies will.

Hearts of Oak: Unless we see a pushback, but there's no one better on speaking his mind than President Trump.

Hearts of Oak: So we'll see what happens.

Him coming over next month, we'll see how that.

But here's a video.

Hearts of Oak: Again, the levels of lunacy that we face in the UK are unbelievable, Hearts of Oak: and maybe the US viewers may think they are just watching some satire here that Hearts of Oak: we are mocking coming up with stories.

Hearts of Oak: Well, here is a video in case you don't believe some of the stories that we put up.

Hearts of Oak: This is about how food is now an offensive weapon.

Hearts of Oak: Here's two minutes.

We'll play most of it.

But this is what happens when you Hearts of Oak: celebrate English breakfasts.

David Atherton: About these coming from out of town.

They don't even fucking live here.

David Atherton: And they're fucking coming out of here.

Arguing for it.

David Atherton: Sorry.

Got my massive nose in there.

Awful sign.

I hope you feel it, I thought.

David Atherton: Where have you come from?

Blackburn!

Absolutely scum nerds, honestly.

David Atherton: See these subtitles for that camera, lad?

David Atherton: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're a woman to be seen on a signature.

We want bacon!

David Atherton: To be honest, you're talking to all your...

What, was that like bacon?

That's like bacon!

David Atherton: How can you arrest him for saying he likes bacon?

That's from the wanker side.

David Atherton: That's till we're going.

David Atherton: What did he say?

He's not given the wrong thing.

David Atherton: What did he say?

Oh, absolutely.

What are you doing?

I think I'm not going to say anything.

David Atherton: Did you get this from my car?

He's like, this, you?

I got a car.

David Atherton: Wait, he's frank, Jake.

David Atherton: Hey, hey.

Hey.

David Atherton: Hey.

Hey, hey.

I just told him to see it.

I thought you said, David Atherton: I just said, oh, it's a secret.

Can you hit the top?

David Atherton: Wait, what's in the film?

Let's do it.

Walking bones look like, David Atherton: just because you said you like beer.

I like beer for me.

David Atherton: It's all on time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm going to ask you.

David Atherton: What's the offense?

What's the offense?

Secret five.

And what's that?

David Atherton: Public honor act.

What's that?

David Atherton: You're not allowed to say you like beer and but he's around here, David Atherton: lad.

Could you explain that to me, buddy?

David Atherton: Yeah, so it's anything that might be perceived to be racially abusive.

David Atherton: Wait, listen, a full English breakfast, eh, what does that consist of?

David Atherton: Well, I'm not discussing offence.

Hearts of Oak: So, liking bacon is racially offensive.

Hearts of Oak: Do you want to explain that to me, David?

Have I missed something?

David Atherton: Well, yes.

In Dalton, under Furnace, they're building a mosque, David Atherton: and most of the protesters are standing outside the mosque.

David Atherton: And it's definitely short of money, and it's catered for the 0.5% of the population David Atherton: who live in the northwest of England, near the Lake District, David Atherton: which is beautiful, by the way, maybe for doctors who work at the local hospitals.

David Atherton: Apparently the cost for it is, I think it's like £200,000.

It might be a bit more than that.

David Atherton: And local people don't want it.

David Atherton: Friday, you can't park your car anywhere.

There's traffic jams everywhere.

David Atherton: Not always.

I'm sure most of David Atherton: the worshippers are Muslims go there in the right spirit and good faith.

David Atherton: But it normally attracts the nutters.

It normally attracts some of the grooming gang people.

David Atherton: I don't know whether you know, but after the Oxford trial in 2013, David Atherton: where seven Pakistani heritage men were jailed for the most appalling rapes.

David Atherton: It wasn't just rape.

It was brutal torture.

David Atherton: They tortured the girls as well.

And there's a guy called, an imam called Dr.

David Atherton: Taj Hargay.

He said the imams at the mosques actually encouraged the young men David Atherton: to go out and rape the young ladies because they were wearing sleeveless tops and short skirts.

David Atherton: And the phrase he used was, they deserve to be degraded.

David Atherton: So there are a vast majority of people who go to a mosque, go there in good David Atherton: faith and are peaceful people.

But there's always that minority or absolute David Atherton: scum.

But anyway, that's by the by.

David Atherton: If you want the full analysis to the backstory to what is going on here, David Atherton: it's basically Stockholm Syndrome.

David Atherton: I'll explain what I mean by that in a second.

David Atherton: The Muslim community, I'd estimate 20% are nutters, 80% are moderate and decent.

David Atherton: But the 20% have far more influence over the moderates than, you know, yeah.

Hearts of Oak: The most vocal.

David Atherton: Yeah, exactly.

The extremist Tao whacks the moderate dog.

Hearts of Oak: Yeah.

David Atherton: It's the reason why so few moderate Muslims have spoken up against grooming David Atherton: gangs and their culture and their behavior of a lot of Pakistani Muslims in this country.

David Atherton: Now, because they're so aggressive and because they're so potentially violent, David Atherton: the government is absolutely scared of them.

I think another word there for a second.

David Atherton: You know, by the way, this work is not mine.

It's mostly the work of Douglas Murray.

David Atherton: And I'm kind of paraphrasing quoting him at the moment and Tommy Robinson as well.

David Atherton: And because they know, and there's also a phrase in Britain called two-tier David Atherton: policing, two-tier justice, whereby if you're white and are BAME allies, David Atherton: are dealt with in a far more harsh way than the Muslims in this country.

David Atherton: That's called two-tier justice, two-tier policing.

David Atherton: And what happens is the government is.

David Atherton: If they applied the law equally in this country to everybody, David Atherton: notwithstanding religion, ethnicity or whatever, the Muslims would create civil unrest.

David Atherton: I've heard the phrase rioting.

And if you look at the work of David Betts, David Atherton: Professor David Betts, who's a professor of modern urban warfare at King's College University, David Atherton: we could be on the verge of civil war.

David Atherton: And so the government, like Slocum's syndrome, is adopting the opinions and David Atherton: the views of your captors.

David Atherton: So the government is treading on eggshells to appease the Muslim lobby in this David Atherton: country and keep them happy.

David Atherton: It's why Starmer wants to recognize Palestine.

David Atherton: It's why he's trying to bring in this Islamophobia law, which will be bitterly fought against.

David Atherton: Basically, it's an attempt to shut down all criticism of Islam and Muslims in this country.

David Atherton: And so what the government does is, rather than deal with the primary problem, David Atherton: which is militant Islam, they deal with the reaction.

David Atherton: That is why Tommy Robinson has been a political prisoner of this country for such a long time.

David Atherton: He was jailed for 15 months, I think it was, for contempt of court, David Atherton: which is a civil offence.

David Atherton: Let me give you a quick example of how contempt of court works in Britain.

David Atherton: There was a murderer called Levi Belfield, and he was standing trial for the David Atherton: murder of Millie Dowler.

David Atherton: And, um, the, he was found guilty of a previous offense and the daily mail and David Atherton: the daily mirror, um, printed out those offenses in a column and they were found David Atherton: because the trial was coming up.

David Atherton: They were, they were found in contempt of court that obviously wouldn't happen, David Atherton: wouldn't be allowed in America or happen in America.

David Atherton: Indeed.

They were just merely fined £14,000 each.

David Atherton: Tommy Robinson gets 15 months.

A Daily Mirror get fined £14,000.

David Atherton: It's totally disproportionate.

David Atherton: So what I'm saying is the people they go after are not the people who are causing, David Atherton: who are doing the gang raping, who are preparing their al-Qaeda, David Atherton: you know, their rising attacks.

David Atherton: They're going after the people who object to it.

David Atherton: And hence my potential arrest for, you know, for saying F Islam.

David Atherton: Yeah, so this is the way the police forces in this country, you know, David Atherton: they've been made to be woke by what's called the College of Policing, David Atherton: who get guidance on their behaviour.

David Atherton: And the very fact that, you know, okay, would, you know, if someone said to David Atherton: me, you know, I like a certain food, you know.

David Atherton: Excuse me.

I can't think of an example at the moment.

If someone's telling you, David Atherton: would I be offended?

No, I wouldn't.

David Atherton: And, you know, and the point is, even if you are offended, so what?

David Atherton: That's the whole point of free speech.

David Atherton: You know, free speech is never, you know, hate, you know, the offence is never David Atherton: given.

It's always taken.

David Atherton: Particularly with the Muslim community in this country.

Hearts of Oak: No, it's, yeah, and it's that act that anything that you say that may be offensive, Hearts of Oak: which is, as you say, so subjective.

Hearts of Oak: Here's the final completely crazy story, and then we'll get on to a few of the Hearts of Oak: other that we've probably come to accept.

And this is High Councils Tearing Down England Flags.

Hearts of Oak: That didn't come up.

Let me try that again.

Hearts of Oak: High Councils Tearing Down English Flags.

And we have a situation where all Hearts of Oak: across parts of the country started in East London with the council taking them down.

Hearts of Oak: And this has now sparked a huge campaign to actually put our flags up and celebrate Hearts of Oak: our culture.

And David, I find this weird coming from Northern Ireland where Hearts of Oak: there are flags everywhere.

Hearts of Oak: Every lamppost has either a tricolour or a Northern Irish flag or a Union Jack.

Hearts of Oak: So to me, when I came to London 23 years ago, I found it strange that people Hearts of Oak: actually didn't celebrate their flag in the way that I saw it as normal back in Northern Ireland.

Hearts of Oak: And this is a, I mean, it's not just a labor issue.

Hearts of Oak: It's actually throughout every government that we don't seem to celebrate our Hearts of Oak: flag except at sporting events.

Hearts of Oak: But to think that the council are paying people to go and remove the flag of Hearts of Oak: the nation is, it just blows you away.

Hearts of Oak: And I'm sure no America watching this would even contemplate that was acceptable.

Yeah.

David Atherton: Indeed, yes.

It's called the Marxist Long March Through the Institutions.

David Atherton: The whole of the establishment, the swamp, the blob, as we call it again, David Atherton: the whole of the establishment is now anti-English, now anti-British.

David Atherton: The most nasty one is anti-English.

David Atherton: We are made to feel ashamed of our culture.

David Atherton: We are made to feel ashamed of our history.

David Atherton: And we really should roll over and admit that we are the world's nastiest nation David Atherton: that ever existed not Nazi Germany, not the Soviet Union, David Atherton: not all the Chinese Communist Party today not the Ottoman Empire not the Aztec David Atherton: Empire, you know we are uniquely evil as British and.

David Atherton: Despite the fact yes we were involved David Atherton: in slavery but of course we were the first nation to actually stop David Atherton: the damn thing and we spent you know we spent blood and David Atherton: treasure trying to stop it worldwide um 1807 David Atherton: we uh we stopped the transportation of slaves 1833 we stopped the ownership David Atherton: of slaves and we and and we and it was a debt we we didn't pay off until 2015 David Atherton: yeah so you know you can't you can't say we're you know we weren't committed David Atherton: committed to the cause um but yeah um, David Atherton: And it's just the way this country has gone when it comes to free speech and David Atherton: the way things, you know, on the flags.

David Atherton: No, it's just absolute, again, beggars belief what we have to endure, David Atherton: what we have to put up with.

David Atherton: By the way, the flashpoint for these flags at the moment is Tower Hamlets.

David Atherton: It's a London borough just to the east of London where my gran was born in 1906.

David Atherton: My late grandmother was born in 1906.

David Atherton: And it's now taken over by people, mainly from people from Bangladesh.

Hearts of Oak: Your crown wouldn't have recognized it.

David Atherton: No, no, no.

David Atherton: What my dad said about immigration is not repeatable.

David Atherton: That's by the by.

And it's run by a corrupt, I can use the word corrupt, David Atherton: because he was done for electoral corruption, Luftharama.

David Atherton: Luftharaman.

He was born in Bangladesh.

David Atherton: And soon after the atrocities of the 7th of October in Israel, David Atherton: Palestinian flags started appearing all over his borough and elsewhere in the country.

David Atherton: And there's a guy called John, he's a Scottish guy.

He lived just off the Bethnal David Atherton: Green Road.

And he went out and he made a video.

David Atherton: It was sort of worded.

He did use the C word and the S word and things like that.

David Atherton: And he made this video and he put it on Facebook, which then went viral on social media.

David Atherton: Criticizing the Palestinian flags that festoon the borough.

David Atherton: The next day, he was woken up at 4 a.m.

by the police and arrested.

David Atherton: For showing his distaste of the Palestinian flags.

David Atherton: And to this very day, those Palestinian flags still fly in the London borough of Tower Hamness.

David Atherton: It's also now informally known as Tower Hamness.

David Atherton: But anyway, it's by...

And when British and English people started putting up David Atherton: England and Union Jack flags, they were immediately torn down.

David Atherton: Many have had a police escort to do their job.

David Atherton: You have to say that Luthor Rahman is anti-British.

David Atherton: He's a member of the Umar, which means the worldwide brotherhood of Islam.

David Atherton: His first loyalty is to Islam.

His first loyalty is to this country.

David Atherton: He is a traitor.

He should be deported.

Hearts of Oak: And he's been done for corruption on that simple level.

So why was he allowed Hearts of Oak: to stand?

but yeah he is the mayor of the lovely part of london that is not he was but

David Atherton: He was bar for five years yeah yeah he did but but the 64 000 question on that David Atherton: one is why did not the police ever prosecute.

Hearts of Oak: Him yeah yeah well let's talk about this was a a looking yeah this was a great story Hearts of Oak: about hotels being used for housing illegal migrants or asylum seekers.

Hearts of Oak: And you put up the High Court ruled asylum hotels are illegal because they're being used as hostels.

Hearts of Oak: And the Bell Hotel, which has been the centre of some of these demonstrations, Hearts of Oak: has to move the illegals out by 12th of September.

Hearts of Oak: This was the council doing this, and now the Labour government are in disarray Hearts of Oak: because they don't know where they're going to put all these people.

Hearts of Oak: And this could start a chain reaction.

But again, a great story.

Hearts of Oak: And I was surprised that the course actually ruled this way.

David Atherton: Well, I'm surprised as well.

I think political correctness and wokery has only David Atherton: creeped into the Crown Court.

David Atherton: The High Court is a little bit more objective and more happy.

David Atherton: The old baby, the statue that sits on top of the old baby, which is the Crown David Atherton: Court, has a blindfold because she's meant to be blind to all injustice.

David Atherton: So I think the High Court probably called it on the legislation and the rules are fairly clear.

David Atherton: You cannot use a hotel as a hostel.

David Atherton: If you put them in there for two or three days, you'd probably get away with David Atherton: it or maybe a couple of weeks if you must.

David Atherton: But now they are there permanently.

David Atherton: I'm sorry, I think the High Court called it right.

By the way, David Atherton: unfortunately, the government is appealing it.

But anyway.

David Atherton: With our money.

Yeah, I know.

David Atherton: Don't start me off on that one, Peter.

So I just pray the appeals court comes David Atherton: up with the right decision, which theoretically, they should stick with the original decision.

David Atherton: But whatever.

However, this is really going to put Keir Starmer and the Labour David Atherton: government in a very, very difficult position.

David Atherton: Because, you know, two or three things will happen.

David Atherton: The Labour, what will happen is the councils that are reform and conservative David Atherton: will obviously get rid of all their asylum hotels.

David Atherton: Then they'll be concentrated in Labour areas.

David Atherton: Which means that's not going to be ever popular with the Labour voters, David Atherton: and that's going to make Kirsten Army more unpopular.

David Atherton: And this also gives a spectre, and I pray this is true, is, well, David Atherton: welcome to your new accommodation.

David Atherton: You do get a sleeping bag with your tent.

But the outrageous thing in this country, David Atherton: Britain is one of the most concentrated, densely populated countries in the world.

David Atherton: Um and uh the property David Atherton: prices this property prices in rentals and David Atherton: price of property is absolutely astronomic in this country and David Atherton: and because we've got so many legal and illegal migrants um it's currently running David Atherton: approximately one one million a year to this country and if you do it by capita David Atherton: so with with america that's equivalent of about five to six million new people David Atherton: coming in legally and legally every year.

David Atherton: It is unsustainable.

David Atherton: The government is completely mad.

And so what they are now doing is they're David Atherton: rushing to purchase homes of multiple occupancy.

David Atherton: And they've got 20,000 people that want to fit into 5,000 properties, no five per house.

David Atherton: And that means to say that, you know, Serco, the people who are doing it on David Atherton: behalf of the government, are paying well over the market rates to get all this David Atherton: rental property available.

David Atherton: And therefore, you know, it is completely pricing out young couples and young David Atherton: people from ever renting or ever buying their own place.

David Atherton: You know, when the simple thing was, would be to stop the boats and send them all back to France.

David Atherton: And quite frankly, the French object, If you need a Royal Navy escort, David Atherton: so be it.

You know, they're going back.

David Atherton: I see reform got some interesting plans on that.

But anyway, sorry.

Hearts of Oak: No, they do.

I just want to bring the other story that's closely linked to this Hearts of Oak: is House Stormer opened the floodgates Hearts of Oak: on asylum claims, record 110,000 in Labour's first year in power, Hearts of Oak: despite PM's pledge to smash the gangs.

Hearts of Oak: And they're on their left showing actually the record number passing its peak Hearts of Oak: of 2002 and really had fallen down to, what, Hearts of Oak: 30,000 or so for a decade and a half.

Hearts of Oak: And suddenly has rocked.

And they said one in four of the total asylum claims Hearts of Oak: were made by small boat migrants.

Hearts of Oak: So someone first smashed.

And the top five nationalities for asylum claimants Hearts of Oak: were Pakistani, Afghan, Iranian, Eritrean and Bangladeshi.

Hearts of Oak: Well, Pakistan, I mean, they could all go to, you know, the grooming gang epicenters Hearts of Oak: because, I mean, they seem to participate in those activities up in Rotherham or Rochdale.

Hearts of Oak: So maybe that's an option.

I don't know.

But it is literally out of control, this.

David Atherton: Yeah, well, Britain has open borders.

You know, you fancy coming to Britain, David Atherton: get yourself a job, get yourself some welfare.

Britain's the place for you.

David Atherton: So for the benefit of the American viewers, when an asylum seeker comes to this David Atherton: country, or illegal migrants, as I call them, they are first processed to a place called Manston.

David Atherton: We used to be an RAF base during the Second World War.

David Atherton: I'm sure the pilots are turning in their graves at the moment.

David Atherton: And then they are dispersed to other hotels.

David Atherton: And by the way the home office has specified they must be at least a three star but we have a five, David Atherton: seriously the home office is specified they have to be at least three star we David Atherton: we know we we have a sort of starring system for hotels in the uk where one David Atherton: star is you know a bit of a shithole and five star is your grand luxury luxury David Atherton: um um hotel and three star but david.

Hearts of Oak: I specify five store and i go Hearts of Oak: away sadly my bank balance rejects that request so it doesn't work for me

David Atherton: Absolutely yeah and uh they they are fed three meals a day and they have snacks in the afternoon, David Atherton: um they're given 50 pound a week pocket money and uh and off you know something David Atherton: like 80 percent of claims are accepted then then they'll then they'll give them David Atherton: free accommodation they don't pay any rent, David Atherton: Um, they don't pay any council tax.

David Atherton: They don't even pay for their gas and electric energy bills.

You know.

Hearts of Oak: Wow.

No wonder all those are going up and up in price because we have to subsidize these poor people.

David Atherton: Yeah, I do, yeah.

You know, I mean, it's easy for me to slag off Keir Starmer, David Atherton: but the Conservatives were in power for 14 years.

David Atherton: They had 14 years to fix it as well.

You know, this is the uni party, David Atherton: you know, walking in lockstep, you know.

David Atherton: So, yeah, the annual cost of looking David Atherton: after these people to the British taxpayer is £15.5 billion a year.

David Atherton: So, again, if you extrapolate per capita to America, that will be somewhere David Atherton: in the region of $75 or $80 billion a year for illegal migrants.

David Atherton: Actually, probably a bit more than that.

Probably $100 billion, David Atherton: actually, thinking about it, if you extrapolate it like that because of the exchange rate.

David Atherton: This is the madness that we have.

And probably there can be no misunderstanding David Atherton: why people in this country are so angry and why we are living in a tinderbox at the moment.

David Atherton: It's one major incident.

I pray it doesn't happen.

David Atherton: I hope everyone stays within the rule of law, but I'm sure there's one major David Atherton: incident that may spark something off and be a catalyst.

And, you know, David Atherton: Keir Starmer will have to go sooner or later.

Hearts of Oak: No, he will.

Well, this is obviously one of the reasons why people are getting Hearts of Oak: very angry and we see this repeated.

Hearts of Oak: I think there was a week where there was more or less a story a day on this Hearts of Oak: going by maybe two weeks.

Hearts of Oak: But Adnan Khan was originally accused of trying to communicate and kidnap 10 Hearts of Oak: schoolgirls eventually pleaded guilty to harassment and to charge of sexual Hearts of Oak: communication with a child.

Hearts of Oak: Newcastle Crown Court jailed him for 15 months.

Hearts of Oak: Lucy Connolly, who we opened the show with, got 31 months for a tweet.

Hearts of Oak: So sexually harassing children is regarded as half as bad as putting out a stupid tweet.

Hearts of Oak: That kind of...

I think what you put up here perfectly illustrates the two-tier system we have.

David Atherton: Yeah, sure.

Absolutely.

And not forgetting Hugh Edwards, a BBC presenter, David Atherton: who had his hard-dried stuff with images of child sexual abuse.

David Atherton: He was given a suspended sentence, which means to say that he never served any jail time.

So...

David Atherton: Yeah, so this is the state of Britain at the moment.

This is the state of play.

David Atherton: This is the conditions we live under in this country, where basically we are David Atherton: white people and they're BAME allies, ethnic minority allies.

David Atherton: We're treated as second-class citizens.

David Atherton: It is open racism towards us, I think, now, whilst there are certain protected David Atherton: groups that get the key clubs.

David Atherton: Like Ricky Jones you know if we're going to implement anti-free speech law Ricky David Atherton: Jones said it was around the Southport riots when it comes to the Nazis and David Atherton: the fascists we want that to happen to them that to my mind was a clear incitement to, David Atherton: violence if not murder and by today's standards he deserved to go to jail in David Atherton: my opinion he was let up, he was found not guilty not a stain on his character.

Hearts of Oak: And of course he was he Hearts of Oak: not let lucy connelly where she was kept and therefore Hearts of Oak: you got all the panic of being held the confusion yeah Hearts of Oak: nothing was happening your mind is everywhere where actually ricky was he was Hearts of Oak: out so he could time to plan and he was at home again very different one is Hearts of Oak: to induce fear and force something another is to allow the time to recuperate Hearts of Oak: respond and do what you want and two very different approaches I

David Atherton: Get proper legal advice kind of thing you know I'd probably strongly suggest David Atherton: the duty solicitor was a bit naughty so I think their advice was pretty bad David Atherton: so yeah oh by the way top tip even if you face going to jail on remand, David Atherton: accept it do not ever plead guilty David Atherton: or, you know, let's say, indicate that you're going to plead guilty.

David Atherton: Fight your case, you know, certainly on free speech grounds and certainly on guilt grounds.

David Atherton: Now, you know, Lucy Conley got 31 months.

I can't sit in a month of Sundays.

David Atherton: She's got 31 months with a jury trial.

David Atherton: You know, so I believe there were six people who –, David Atherton: Six people who were not put in front of kangaroo courts, and five of the six got off.

David Atherton: And by the way, let me mention Bernice Buffoff here.

David Atherton: Such a nice lady.

She's so sweet.

Anyway, and apparently full marks to the Free Speech Union.

David Atherton: Which I'm a member of.

I just renewed my gold membership with them.

David Atherton: I saw that.

I can spot a good investment when I see it, you know.

David Atherton: And the Free Speech Union have helped me out and funnily enough, in libel, actually.

David Atherton: So let me name and say both in an alley, you fell miserably, David Atherton: you useless green MP in hells.

David Atherton: So, yeah, so Bernie Spothwell, the Free Speech Union, barrister, it wasn't a solicitor.

David Atherton: A barrister is an advocate in court.

A solicitor is a legal legal advocate behind the scenes.

David Atherton: And Free Speech Union dispatched a barrister.

David Atherton: And quoted all the relevant acts to the superintendent and said, David Atherton: you have no right to keep her, mate, under case law.

David Atherton: And she was actually no further action on it.

David Atherton: She walked away absolutely nothing.

David Atherton: Nothing against her.

So guys, Guys, if you're in Britain or you're an American David Atherton: who's coming over to Britain, do check out the Free Speech Union.

David Atherton: They are absolutely fantastic.

David Atherton: Apparently, they're dealing with 300 cases every day.

Hearts of Oak: Wow.

And I think two of the greatest heroes that we have in the UK are Toby Hearts of Oak: Young, now Lord Toby Young, who started Free Speech Union, and Alison Pearson, Hearts of Oak: the absolutely courageous journalist throughout COVID and throughout this tyranny.

Hearts of Oak: Yeah, yeah.

We would be in a much worse situation without those two in the UK.

Hearts of Oak: Absolutely, yeah.

Two other stories.

Let me bring the last one on immigration Hearts of Oak: side and then something completely different.

Hearts of Oak: This is which nationalities commit the most violent sexual and theft offences?

Hearts of Oak: And you look at the UK in terms of the violence, I mean, those from Congo are heading up that table, Hearts of Oak: 10 times the amount of violence per group, per 110,000 than the UK.

Hearts of Oak: And then you look at the bottom one, and it's Afghanistan 10 times more pervy, seemingly, than the UK.

Hearts of Oak: Okay, the level of growing violence, the level of growing sexual assaults, Hearts of Oak: and this really puts it into perspective, into the picture.

Hearts of Oak: It sets the scene that this seems to be linked to mass immigration, Hearts of Oak: and yet the government's head's in the sand.

Hearts of Oak: But this was a great graphic, David, that you came across and put up.

David Atherton: Absolutely, yes.

There's also other research which suggests that Afghanistani David Atherton: men are 22 times more likely to be involved in sexual assault.

Hearts of Oak: And these hotels could be beside schools anywhere.

Who knows?

David Atherton: Yeah, indeed, yeah.

Let me illustrate what a nasty, misogynist, David Atherton: anti-mobin-hating society Afghanistan is.

David Atherton: During when the Taliban were doing their thing against the Americans, David Atherton: there were some Afghan women who got bullet wounds and shrapnel wounds.

David Atherton: They went to the hospital to get treatment, and they were turned away because David Atherton: there were only male doctors available.

Wow.

Hearts of Oak: Wow.

Sick.

Yeah.

David Atherton: Afghan women can't go out on their own without their guardian's permission.

David Atherton: It might be husband or father.

David Atherton: They can't intermingle with men at all in any sense.

David Atherton: And they have to go out dressed in a burqa.

David Atherton: Um there's also a case whereby David Atherton: a night a 17 year old 17 David Atherton: year old boy spoke to a 16 year David Atherton: old girl on a mobile phone the taliban found out and he was brutally tortured David Atherton: for two days and then started to stick up his rectum for talking wow yeah you David Atherton: know um the afghan society is intrinsically misogynist.

David Atherton: And when they come over here, it's an absolute culture shock where women are David Atherton: treated equally, with respect, within reason they can wear whatever they like.

David Atherton: We're back to the sleeveless dresses and the short skirts again here, David Atherton: exposing knees and flesh around the shoulders.

David Atherton: They just can't cope with it.

And I'm told by an Afghan lady, David Atherton: a friend of mine, she came over here 10 years ago with the two kids.

David Atherton: And she said that they actually get worse because the women start expecting David Atherton: to be treated a little bit better in this country, that they retreat even more David Atherton: into their Stone Age caveman mentality.

David Atherton: And also where this leads on, yeah, and where this leads on is if you're not David Atherton: wearing a, but this is the mentality of Afghan men.

David Atherton: If you are wearing a if you're not wearing a burqa and you are dressed as a David Atherton: western woman, a man has every right to rape you and you have committed no offence, David Atherton: It's a bit like if you throw a bun in a restaurant, you know, David Atherton: you bite down something slightly naughty, but you'll never be prosecuted for it.

David Atherton: This is their Islamic, Islamist mentality that we have to put up with.

David Atherton: So if there's ever a group of people that are unsuited to live in a Western David Atherton: liberal society, it is them.

Hearts of Oak: Another example if you look at iran you look Hearts of Oak: at pre the islamic revolution 79 what iran Hearts of Oak: was like what it's like now it's completely um different country Hearts of Oak: and we've got a few minutes left um Hearts of Oak: let me bring up this other story about mass Hearts of Oak: mass fatality resilience capability um if i don't know if i've said that right Hearts of Oak: um it was a quick change there off no no the wrong one no no well I'm going Hearts of Oak: to bring that up after let me take that let me bring up this one Hearts of Oak: and it's this curious Hearts of Oak: that you said that they're awarded these Hearts of Oak: what do they call them?

Hearts of Oak: I don't know even what you call it but for to store fatalities,

David Atherton: 450 fatalities looking for looking for places to keep refrigerated dead bodies.

David Atherton: You know, it's a morgue, isn't it, kind of thing.

Hearts of Oak: So it seems as though something is up and the government are preparing for something, Hearts of Oak: but we're obviously not being told what they're preparing for, Hearts of Oak: what they're expecting.

David Atherton: Yeah, indeed, yeah.

David Atherton: Again, you can't bring forth any proof.

David Atherton: You can't definitively say, you know, this, that or the other.

David Atherton: I mentioned earlier about primary schools being given those lessons in how to David Atherton: deal with a terrorist attack.

David Atherton: And this is another sort of a little flag waving above the parapet.

David Atherton: The government is now expecting the deaths of possibly even hundreds of people from terrorism.

David Atherton: It is absolutely chilly.

I think in all, they were looking to have 700 people David Atherton: who potentially their bodies could be preserved in that number.

David Atherton: The worst of terrorist atrocity in Britain was 7-7-2005, where 38 people died.

David Atherton: Good heavens, when three bombs were detonated, one at Edgware Road, David Atherton: and the other one was a bus near Hoban.

David Atherton: I say only 38.

David Atherton: The Manchester Arena bombing in 2017 at the Mariana Grande concert, David Atherton: that killed 22 mainly children at the time.

David Atherton: To be looking to bury 700 people, that looks to be, they're expecting virtually civil war.

David Atherton: As Professor David Betts, the Professor of History has warned us of.

David Atherton: And also has been added to by Tim Stanley, the author, historian, David Atherton: and telegraph columnist.

David Atherton: I've always felt this is our destiny or will be our destiny I've always couched David Atherton: it as being I call it civil unrest because I could be theoretically in this David Atherton: country I could be dumb for incitement using the phrase civil war, David Atherton: but it now seems to be that there are credible academics that are now commenting David Atherton: on it, I think I'm probably just about safe enough to mention at the moment but, David Atherton: But it's been complete madness.

David Atherton: We have let in literally millions of people.

David Atherton: And you look at the Palestinian crowds on a Saturday afternoon, David Atherton: the pro-Palestine Palestinian crowds.

David Atherton: They not only hate Jews, they're not only anti-Semis, they hate everything that the West stands for.

David Atherton: And they hate our culture, they hate our flags, they hate everything about us.

David Atherton: They're openly hostile to us.

And we let these people stay in this country.

David Atherton: You just can't really sum it up any better than that.

quite frankly.

David Atherton: I look upon Britain is facing an existential crisis at the moment, David Atherton: our land our country is on the verge of disappearing but I'll tell you this David Atherton: like the Battle of Britain and beyond, we're not going down without a fight David Atherton: if you look at all the protests that are going up and down in this country at the hotels, David Atherton: I'm joining some pro-Israelis after this interview up in Hampstead.

David Atherton: And I'm going to be very, very vocal David Atherton: about that.

I'll be telling the pro-Palestinians what I think about them.

David Atherton: So, you know, getting the benefit of my wisdom, as I call it.

David Atherton: But, you know, this is...

Hearts of Oak: It could be the last time you see David on this show.

David Atherton: The uni party in Britain, the Conservatives and the Labour have actually ruined David Atherton: this country.

The quality of life is dreadful.

David Atherton: You know, women and girls walk around, you know, scared to death of being attacked by migrants.

David Atherton: And they could have stopped this.

They could have stopped this any time in the David Atherton: last 14 years, any time in the last 14 years.

David Atherton: And, you know, if I was in charge of this country, it will be sorted out within David Atherton: a month tops, mostly sorted out within a week.

David Atherton: And the first thing we need to do is anybody, you know, when Bahamut Abdul come David Atherton: across the channel, Right, good morning, Abdul.

Can I see your passport?

David Atherton: Oh, no passport is in the sea.

See, can I see your documentation?

David Atherton: Don't have any documentation.

Right, stamp.

David Atherton: Asylum declined, bye.

That's it.

David Atherton: If you do not have any documentation, it's under the 1971 Immigration Act.

David Atherton: If you didn't come in with relevant documentation, you are an illegal immigrant David Atherton: and can be immediately deported.

David Atherton: Also, by the way as well, not many people who know this, under maritime law, David Atherton: you can deport illegal people back to where they came from.

David Atherton: So don't give all this ECHR rubbish.

David Atherton: There is international treaties that allow us to do that immediately.

Hearts of Oak: And that's what we need to get back to if only the government used what Hearts of Oak: was available to them david um we'll draw to close really appreciate you coming Hearts of Oak: on as always thanks so much for always a pleasure giving us your time and the Hearts of Oak: picture i was just going to show to leave the viewers with which i brought up Hearts of Oak: by mistake was was that one david saying confused message from soho rainbow hoops