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There's snow.

There's twelve year snow everywhere.

We're still dying in Ohio and not a single one of you have written us an email to check on.

No carrier pigeons, no letters in our po box, no postcards, nothing.

Nobody has checked on us.

And if we're dead or not, So that tells me.

That tells me if I'm putting all the pieces together, they're gonna let us record this podcast in Hell whenever we eventually get.

There, so they already have a spot reserve for us.

If someone has it on good authority, then we're gonna be allowed to record this show from the pits of Hell.

That'd be cool.

Hi everyone, I am.

I'm doing much better than my co host this evening.

It's always something man.

I'm delicious, nicolicious.

Yeah, I'm rob Dogg.

Hey, guys, how's it going.

Robert Dogg has placed approximately forty eight pounds of dead dinosaurs in the street when he got here.

Fucking shit, man, oil coming out of his car, always something, talking away, something.

So what we're looking for is a benefactor.

We're looking for a a faint of financier.

We would like someone who.

Someone wants to buy the parts figure out the problem.

Man, my car, I can let me handle this.

We would like for someone to buy Robert a car.

It can't be a Tesla because we're not trying to get it pooped on.

Yeah, negative connotations.

And preferably a hell cat.

Dude, if I get you, if somebody buys you a hell cat, because I'm begging for it.

Sure, I don't want a hell Cat, but you have to give it to me, and I'll get you, like in a Honda quart or something that's a good shock.

I don't think it's fair for me to beg for you to get a car.

Then you get a real health cat would be some shit, or a thunderbird.

Those were nice.

Those were nice.

My mom always you have a thunderbird and she always wreck them and run over dogs and ship.

My dad would be like, you're right over fucking again.

Man, Yeah, I fucking I don't even want to think about getting another car.

It's not that serious.

But no, no, you just gotta give me cars, break you fix them.

It's just repeat in opportune time.

Which that's how fucking life gets you.

It's never a good time to have something catastrophic go wrong.

No, no, no, it's always when it's like, okay, cool, I got a little bit of play money here, I can.

Life just Life's.

Yeah, you'll fuck yourself.

God's like, you don't think about my dick until it's inside of you.

You got ship.

Yeah, pussy bitch speaking a pussy bitch.

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She looks like sounds like an angel.

She looks like she's a good cook, but she cusses at her kids.

I'm totally fine with that.

It's old.

I mean you're probably not for sale.

But wait a second, No, Holly, you have a wonderful smile and we're very happy to have you.

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We did a zoom chat with about fifty people before the show.

Lots of funny times, lots of beautiful faces.

I met someone that I fell in love with and I think they're a transsexual, which this is a new feeling for me.

I'm working through some stuff.

We'll figure it out.

Okay, we'll get there, ma'am.

We love you, Holly.

Chris, you're next on the list.

Your family hate you so much.

They named you after something that comes out of your wiener.

The rhymes with something that comes out of your wiener.

I'm talking about piss Chris.

To see where you're going with that, Pissy chrissy, piss pants Chris, Chris, mister piss pants.

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Next, we got my Uh.

I'm not gonna say the word we have my evil twin here.

We got Bob, not Rob, but Bob.

This is fat cock.

Bob, fat cock.

Yes, yeah, you may not be familiar, but I am short and fat.

Well the cock that is blow out the sides of a tunicn Yeah, come on, baby, Bob.

Man, dude, I'd love for you to do that up and down on my dick.

Wouldn't that be cool?

Be crazy?

He said?

Like we used to work.

I used to work at the prison.

We had cordless phones and all the cell blocks, and you called like I need to talk to Bob and they'd be like, who's Bob?

You like up and down his dick bench and then you hang up.

It's so stupid.

Oh god, I love it, John Hilton, and man, I was molested in a Hilton hotel and I would like to talk to your family about it, John, Johnny Boy, thank you.

Couldn't do this without you.

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You can see the misery on Rob's face when he finds out his car is dumping oil in the street.

Yeah, it's cool.

You're gonna see me going through diabetic fits.

So my shoe, blood sugars are messed up.

Okay, you get to see me.

Never mind, I gotta talk about this guy that got well, let's talk about him.

Fuck the vacuum.

We had so many freaking people send this story to us.

I said, we gotta we gotta cover.

Yeah, I saw this.

Did you review it?

What do you like that?

I read it?

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, read it.

You can't skim over a headline like that.

You gotta read it.

I didn't click on a single of all the people that sent that us, I didn't click on it.

I still haven't read the story.

Really.

Yeah, okay, I like a good surprise.

Yeah, sure, I get that.

It is a type of story that could only have originated out of the Sunshine State.

Oh it's Florida.

I thought it was Ohio.

Police in central Florida were summoned to a private development and kiss me what fuck right next to Orlando on Thursday, January twenty second to deal with a partially clothed man who was allegedly exposing himself outside a neighbors home.

Hanging brain is what we call it.

He's fucking hanging brain, dog letting his letting his wiener, just hang out.

Hope you don't mind see in my nuts.

Police also are told the exposed man had quote engaged in sexual performance with a vacuum cleaner.

Read the statement on the rest of Kevin Dale Western Hoole old KD is a calling for short.

You get your dick sucked, So I mean it's that's literal.

I told you not to bother me when I'm cleaning my room.

Who is facing an exposure of sexual organs?

Charge?

Goddamn damn.

They skipped the indecent exposure.

They hit his fucking ass with a exposure of a sexual organ.

Sounds like you're fucking opening your asshole for everybody looking to he fucking prolapsed your ass.

Look at my kidneys swinging a pink socket.

Everybody, Mom, I need you come bail me, jail.

I've been charged with exposure of an organ.

That's wild, dude, Dude, he must have a lot of dick to be to get a charge like that.

That's an organ, dude.

Yeah, my wan has never been referred to was an organ.

I've got it called organism, and they're called a fucking organ.

Jesus Christ.

Oh shuit a piano key.

As best as I'm getting the cops like, I can't Collie, can't gotta charge him.

It's something new we never Jesus Christ.

He has seen the fucking wiener on this man.

It's an organ.

His dick was longer than the shop back hose.

I hope one day that I'm charged with exposure of an organ.

Those see all that County Sheriff's off.

It's got the bizarre call about a man displaying his private parts and raced over to the Windsor Hills Resort development, but the fifty one year old suspect gave them the sleep, having already left the area.

However, a statement contends that the victim observed this behavior provided a statement to detectives as well as a cell phone recording I'll pay good money for that allegedly showed a man partially clothed in front of a residence engaged in a sexual performance with a vacuum cleaner.

Uh, the story does not there.

Police later learned that the Florida man and his wife live in a home within the private development and also operate an airbnb of a separate residence nearby.

Detectives started looking into the disturbing situation and discovered that a complaint had been made on January twenty first, regarding a man that was walking in a shared hallway space neked.

They review the doorbell camera footage and the officers started to canvass the area.

Let's see, he'd been reported to the homeowners association several times.

That's why I'll never live in one of those things.

Sometimes you just want to buck a vacuum cleaner in front of your house.

And Florida is illegal to expose or exhibit sexual organs in a public place or on private premises in a vulgar or indecent manner.

The law does not criminalize mere nudity, but targets exposure that is deemed either lewd or offensive exposure of sexual organs is a misdemeanor.

Accidental exposure or exposure without any lute intent may not meet the legal threshold.

So keep your organs inside your fucking pants.

Yeah, that's disgusting.

I can't wait to offer to show my wife my organs later.

You want to see an organ, You want to see my organ, Brendon.

Would that be a cool instrument to play?

It'd be really cool, the fucking giant bag organs.

Yeah, I'd be so cryptic and mysterious.

People would be like, how are you today, and I'd just be like, I'm breading for the sun to come up, or just you know, I talk really weird to everybody about everything.

I talk really weird to people.

As it as it says, Now.

You'd have to wear one of those masks that either like just covers your eyes or like just covers your mouth.

I'm an artist, Like whatever the fucking google does it?

Famo of the Opera, quit asking me about my organ.

That way.

I call it an orgasm orgasm organisms or I don't know, maybe I think I made that one.

That's not right.

I don't know.

There's some there's probably some truth to it, right, you said a hanging brain.

You didn't say anything about fucking laying orgon or whatever.

Drop an organ.

I had an uncle who lived in Oregon.

Dude, Yeah, he died though forat rest in peace.

He was my uh In other words, don't live in organ or you'll die.

Yeah he uh.

Well he was ninety seven or some shit like that.

That's kind of cool, my mom.

God, I hope I don't live to be that old.

No, just I think you and I should make a blood pact with one another.

Like I'd say, like seventy nine, Yeah, we're just.

Like, look, dude, I'm already leaking oil, so I mean.

Leaking oil for a long time.

Dog.

Yeah, I'd say, you know, we'll let you get to seventy nine, and then if I get to my seventy ninth birthday, you'd be like, oh, I'm going to pick up my old buddy Nick.

We're gonna go the bowling Alley.

Yeah, and then we'll just go drive off a fucking clip together.

Modern day seventy nine is a lot different than like fucking nineteen seventies.

Seventy nine.

I don't know, dude, we're road hard and put up wet.

I mean we're like in between, right, Yeah, our the inside of our bodies is like a saltwater aquarium with no salt in it.

The fish are just like aha, everything in there just crying and screaming.

It's one more spicy burrito.

Our organs hate us.

Yeah, parts of parts of my body definitely do.

There's no spicy food that scares me until the same until after the fact.

My stomach lining fucking hates it.

But I love being tortured me too.

It makes my body feel good.

Speaking of making your body feel good, let's do some ads.

Yeah, it's good for your body, right, Yeah, alright, many look at that.

I took the fucking leads on that dog.

Just fucking turn me on.

Dude, took the leads.

God damn, I fucking jeans are all wet over here.

Sometimes what's next?

Who knows?

Chris bin Wah, the Canadian Crippler, the Wolverine Man.

Now, you guys, one of the best technical, fucking wrestlers ever.

One of the best wrestlers ever period.

Yeah.

Now we may nerd out a little bit in this episode.

But here's the thing.

If you're not familiar with this case, which I know a lot of people are this is this case has been beat like a dead horse, right, But that's sometimes you got to cover this ship whenever you're covering when you're doing true crime.

Yeah, this is not a wrestling episode.

While it's wrestling by proxy, this is a true crime episode a mysterious murder suicide.

And that's what is important to convey to our listeners that are not wrestling fans.

Some of you are probably like, who the fuck is Chris bin wall Right, Well, I'll start with a are cold opening here.

There was supposed to be a match that night, a pay per view with the card fans had been circling for a long time, and Chris Binwah was supposed to be part of it.

I believe it was the backlash.

I can't remember the exact pay per view, but but then the call came in.

Travel problems, flight issues, the kind of excuses that in the wrestling world they normally don't raise too many eyebrows at first wrestlers, they miss connections.

Occasionally airports screwed you over, especially you know back then.

It happens.

So the show went on, the company justed that they used John Morrison in its place, and to the the audience at home, it probably looked like nothing more than a last minute lineup shuffling, and that happens a lot.

I remember any time I used to go to a wrestling show.

At the bottom of the wrestling card, it would always say cards subject to change, and that that holds true in this instance.

But backstage, the vibe of it all curdled like fucking milk pretty quickly because Ben Wah Chris bin Wall wasn't just running late, he wasn't answering phone calls.

And the longer the silence went on, the more people started feeling that gut level, just that that dread.

You can't explain.

It's that feeling that my mom Sometimes my mom will get a wild hair in her ass and she has my location and she knows where I'm at.

My father does too.

If I'm off work and I don't tell my dad, he calls me and he'll be like, what the fuck are you doing?

You're letting your company down?

You know.

He calls he just dads you.

I'm like, I have kids, We're going to appointments and stuff, Dad, and he'll or if he sees me at a yummy restaurant, he'll call me.

Oh you fucking got money for fucking jeez, takes fat ass.

You'll call and say stuff to me.

Sure, And I don't think it's fair because I'm a grown man.

And you know he used to go he used to do grown man shit now but he does isn't anymore because he's a pussy.

He doesn't do that stuff anymore.

But he'll call and check on me because what are you doing?

Why are you at the laundry mat?

Cause I got five people live in this house and sometimes it's too much laundry to do and one fucking washing machine breaking in the machine for quarters.

Yeah, I'm killing people.

Dad.

So my mom she got my location.

Yeah, and then she'll wait.

You know, I live about sixty seconds from the highway here.

She'll wait till I get on the highway and then she'll call me at like six fifty four, my way to work.

Every time my mom calls me before seven o'clock and like, my fucking dad's dead or you just think the worst, Well, uncle, you know somebody's dad.

Sure, and then I'll answer she's like what are you doing?

And wanting it up to you say, I never call you.

I'm calling you.

You know you can't say I ain't call you.

I'm like, Mom, I thought somebody passed away.

You can't be calling that early, man, I thought that doggate Dad.

And then sometimes she'll text.

Now, sometimes she'll text me just say I'm gonna call you in a minute.

That's good, that's a nice little warning.

Yeah, but then I think, like, I'm gonna call you in a minute, like brace yourself for something bad.

That's kind of off putting too.

Yeah, she knows I love pudding, so I do a fall for that stuff every time.

Man, my my wife will do something very similar and it it completely makes me fucking mad because she'll say, She'll like, we'll we'll get upstairs and she'll be like, Babe, I gotta I gotta ask you to do something and you're gonna be mad, and I'm like, oh, my fucking I don't.

First off, don't preface it like that, because it's gonna make me mad by you saying that.

Just say, hey, could you go to get do this?

Could you go do this?

Don't make it seem like, oh I have this awful thing and I'm just like, oh, women are strange creatures.

It drives me crazy.

Like just say it like I don't want to get up.

No, but am I gonna like slap the shit out of you?

No?

Tell me you want three IBU profits?

Right?

God?

Uh?

But the the Then the news finally hit that the police had discovered Chris bin wa had discovered his wife, Nancy ben Waugh, and their son, Daniel bin Waugh, and all were dead.

And soon after the conclusion, the world would would would choke on even harder news to swallow that this was a murder suicide.

But the part that still feels unreal.

Before the full truth was known publicly, the w w E air a tribute episode.

Memorial packages emotional testimonials from many h wrestlers and people that work on the show, a company wide salute to a man that they believe had died tragically from that he had been murdered himself, and within hours it shifted into something much more radioactive.

Wrestling fans, they weren't just grieving at performer.

They were they were staring at the really realization that one of the most respected names in the entire wrestling industry could be attached to something horrific, meaning the murder of his own wife and his own child.

And tonight we're not.

Yeah, of course we're gonna go over what what happened.

We're alsco gonna kind of question the narrative, the narrative, what's being recommended is like this is how the story was told.

Sure, there's because there's a there's a lot of really weird things about this story, but.

There there are.

But the more I go through it, the more it kind of adds up to it is what it is.

Yeah, and I agree, I agree because when you do look closer, there's a bit of a maze here.

There's traumatic brain injury, prescription drugs pds, wrestling politics, a bit of a corporate panic, and there's a lot of alternative theories, including uh, including the name that always kind of crawls out of the shadows on this one.

That's the Taskmaster, Kevin souliyan, I was gonna say something that already saw his name in, so I knew he was coming up.

Devin Sullivan.

What a fucking if you guys know nothing about wrestling, just just google Kevin Sullivan.

Just get a look at him.

You gotta get a look at him.

And what was this early two thousands, Yeah, you gotta see that version of him.

I mean, I don't know.

Yeah, he's definitely a unique looking fella for sure.

And I fucking hated Kevin Sullivan from the from the very moment I saw him on WCW.

I hate him.

Yeah yeah, before the headlines though, before the crime, before his name became synonymous with killing his family and CD.

Chris bin Wall was just a small, intense kid from Canada with a dangerous obsession.

He wanted to be Dynamite Kid.

Which Dynamite Kid was a wrestler that precluded the Heart Family and the that Canadian that you know, the Heart, the Heart family, Brett Hart, Owen Hart.

There was Chris bin Wall, Chris Jericho, all of these guys, much like when I grow up.

Growing up, we wanted to be Thunderlips.

We all wanted to be Halkgan.

All these kids from Canada, they wanted to be the Dynamite Kid.

They all looked up to him.

He was an absolutely electric performer.

All the kids from Canada that wanted to be professional wrestlers, they all wanted to be the Dynamite Kid.

Not inspired by him, Chris bin Waugh was consumed by the thought, the feeling of wanting to be the Dynamite Kid, and ben Waugh studied his matches, framed by frame, he copied his moves, He adopted the brutal style that that the Dynamite Kid used.

He even reshaped his body to look like the Dynamite Kid.

And that's the crazy thing.

Have you ever seen the Dynamite Kid?

Uh?

I don't think so.

He looks a lot like he just looks like a an older version of Chris beIN Wall.

The entire he had that like that that Chris ben Wall for Yeah yeah, wow, yeah, it's similar.

How how much they look like one another?

Oh?

He was he tagged with British.

Yeah, he's a British Bulldog's partner.

Okay, yeah, I didn't know that was his name.

Yeah, I don't know if that's what they called him when he was in double Yeah yeah I didn't.

I don't think so.

But dude, his and that one picture, specifically, his physique looks exactly like Chris's looks exactly like Dynamite Kid.

Ye.

Wow, Dynamite Kid died in So if Dynamite Kid was what we would call destruction in motion, ben Wah wanted to be the perfected version of that.

Okay.

He was obsessed and a lot of Chris ben Waugh's entire persona was about being perfect and meticulous and obsessed with structure, obsessed with execution.

And I really, I do think the answer to the story lies in that detail.

His obsession with detail, his obsession with perfection of execution, his obsession with just like never fucking up, never straying away from this is my life, working out, eating, shooting steroids, wrestling, repeat.

Once he started to stray away from that, that's when his life kind of started to take some crooked turns.

From the beginning, though, ben Waugh was known for one thing above all else, his exceptional work ethic.

He trained harder than everybody else.

This motherfucker would run miles after matches.

They say that sometimes he would run ten, twelve, fifteen miles after getting a like a wrestling match.

That is hard work, buddy, hell, And imagine clocking out from work and being like, hey, I'm gonna run ten miles real quick.

Absolutely not after they're doing the work.

It's probably way more physical than what you're doing.

Yeah, he lifted weights obsessively.

He had a neck.

Chris bin Wall had a neck like a goddamn redwood tree trunk.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

And he used to do the Mike Tyson thing where he would bridge up on his neck and he did all kinds of just a obnoxiously thick neck.

He treated wrestling like entertainment, less like entertainment and more like almost like a sacred discipline, much like a like a monk or a goddamn what are this trotty masters from?

You know, like old those old Chinese troate masters, dude, not the the fucking mister magis, Not these fucking YouTube ninjasy.

I'm talking about these old bastards.

They can break bricks and ship with her, right right?

Not Oh my god, sorry you say them, the shoolin monks like those guys.

Those guys.

Those guys are freaking crazy man.

Now, his friends what they did say about Crispin While he did not drink, he didn't party, and he did and fucking waste time.

He lived for wrestling.

That was his entire intent on Earth was being a professional wrestler.

Perfection wasn't a goal.

It was the only acceptable outcome for this dude there was.

He was legitimately That's whenever we at the beginning of this episode, we said Chris beIN Waugh were like the most intense wrestler ever because he was on a different level.

Dude, this guy didn't he did not have personality.

He couldn't fucking shoot a promo, was it, couldn't run a microphone, he wouldn't talk you.

You think about you think about wrestling the Golden Age, You think about Hault Cogan, You think about a dude being revved up on the microphone cutting a good promo Chris bin Waugh.

Did you ever cut a promo?

He did, and they were bad.

Yeah, I mean I know he looked.

Over a bucket the ring o beat you up.

Yeah, and they were always really bad.

Right, But when the dude got in the ring and wrestled, take it would it would.

As a wrestling fan, you're just like, Wow, this is true poetry.

That guy could say more without speaking a word than some wrestlers could say talking on a microphone for thirty minutes.

His skill, his technical abilities, it was on a level unlike anybody else in the ring.

He had a bit of a mythic reputation, though.

He was considered one of the safest technical wrestlers alive, which is the best compliment you can get as a professional wrestler.

Someone says that you are the safest person that they've worked with.

He was precise, he was controlled.

He was a surgeon with sueplexes.

This guy was.

He would suplex people, which you're not familiar with what a suplex is.

That's where pretty much you stand ballied it back with somebody and then you launch them over your head backwards.

All right, a pretty dangerous operation.

Chris bin Wall never hurt anybody doing this.

He was meticulous.

He was detailed, surgical even like like we just said, fans saw him as kind of a warrior's warrior.

But he was quiet.

He was respectful, deadly serious about doing things the right way.

And that was when I moved through this.

A lot of the things that I learned about him, that wrestlers said about him after he passed, they're just like he was fucking weird.

Like he just like he was cut different.

He had a tick to him that was just off.

He had no sense of humor.

There's some guys interviewed that said, I worked with the guy for twenty years, I don't know a thing about him.

I don't know, I don't know shit about him.

He just never he was so you couldn't talk to him.

No sense of humor, Yeah, no will to engage with friends.

You know, a lot of a lot of the wrestling back in the eighties and nineties, A lot of that stuff was politics backstage and going out to the strip clubs and drinking after the matches and stuff.

Crispin Watt didn't partaken any in any of that.

He wanted to go back to the hotel room to do sit ups and fucking burpies all night only.

You guys heard me do a burpie about five minutes ago.

I about vomited on myself.

Up.

I don't want me doing burpies.

But outside of the ring, though, that's where he shined.

He projected the image of a family man.

He was a devoted husband, allegedly, a proud father, Allegedly photos showed him smiling with his wife and his son playing in the yard, living a life that looked calm and structured compared to, you know, all the chaos of the wrestling business.

To many, though, cris Bin Wall represented balance.

He was a fucking brutal maniac in the ring and kind of like a just a proud statue of a father at home.

Even in those early years, there were some some cracks that that showed.

There were stories of rage and you can imagine sudden explosions over small things, and a lot of this was chalked up to roid rage.

Oh there's no official designation of what steroids, what all steroids he was on, but this guy was doing a lot of steroids.

Chris bin Wall did not compromise, He did not bend.

He was an obsessed disciplinary Honey, let's go out to dinner for night tonight.

No, I gotta work out, honey, let's let's put up the Christmas tree.

Uh, maybe later.

I gotta work out for three and a half.

I gotta go.

I gotta lift weights for two hours and go run a fucking half marathon in a trash bag so I could swept more.

He was just That's how he was man.

He obsessed, and he obsessed to the point that his discipline and his obsession it became an isolation.

And he was a hard man to love.

Is my understand that Nancy kind of his wife that died conveyed to people is he was a hard man to love.

And it was even harder to crack that exterior shell on him and gain his trust and his companionship and his friendship.

But throughout this friends started, fellow wrestlers and friends.

They started to notice more and more that he grew quieter, he grew more withdrawn.

He was completely emotionally unavailable.

He did not joke, He didn't connect with his peers and his coworkers.

Some described him as hollow, almost like the fucking fire is burning bright in that house, but nobody is home.

That house is on fire and nobody is home.

Others said it felt like he was always fighting something inside of himself, not really an opponent per se, but pressure, some type of pain, something unnamed, whether that was bipolar or maybe schizophrenia, or that he was just always constantly at odds and wars, was some type of internal demon of some kind.

Man and Chris Jericho, who has been one of the most outspoken people about his relationships with Crispin Wall, he said he was just chrispin Wall was just a really conflicted human being that people couldn't connect with him, and that made it.

That made it difficult because so many people they saw so much in the guy that he could have been anything he wanted to be in the wrestling business if he just would have shown a little charisma, a little pizzazz, a little rub on the microphone.

That's all what it take.

Took it for this guy and absolutely positively had no interest in anything besides working out, sticking to a regiment, and getting fucked up in the ring.

That's all he cared about.

The man that the fans saw.

Though he was a he was a just like we've talked about.

Oh, if you hadn't known that he killed his wife and child, you'd say, Nick and Robb think pretty highly of this guy.

I think he's a detestable human being.

Oh, absolutely, yeah, But I think he was also one of the most extraordinary physical performers of any sport that I've ever seen, football, baseball, basketball, amateur wrestling.

He is one of the most intense athletes who has ever laced a pair of boots, man, or a pair of cleats or sneakers.

The man behind the curtain was very difficult to read.

Though he was rigid, he was intense, he was just the entire time during this discent, he was slowly drifting away from people around him.

And that's what makes the story so disturbing, is not the bin wall, not that he snapped out of nowhere, but that the warning signs may have been there all along, hiding underneath all of this discipline and honor and adherence to structure and schedule and working out that all of this may have been there.

And I'm not thinking that that is not my opinion.

I will give you my opinion a little later of what actually happened here the man that the man that people loved, and the man no one really knew.

When WWE realized that Chris Binwall had missed the pay per view and that he could not be reached concerned, it turned into alarm at that point.

So what had happened?

Chris had been in constant contact with one of his best friends, who was a professional wrestler named Chavo Guerrero.

Chavo was calling Chris and just keeping in contact with him.

And Chavo Guerrero, He's been a lot of podcasts and done a lot of shows.

He knew something was wrong with Oh yeah, he could tell.

He knew that something had gone incredibly wrong in Chris's life and that something needed attention.

Chavo Guerrero's brother was none other than probably the other one of the other greatest wrestlers of this era.

His name was Eddie Guerrero, who since died from a I believe he was a heart attack, but he did a lot of steroids, to a lot of drugs.

Latino lightning, you know heat, heat, that's right, cheat, I steal.

Yeah.

One of honestly, probably my favorite performer to watch in the ring was was Eddie Guerrero.

He was really good.

That fucking frog splash, Yeah, dude.

But whenever they realized they come to the realization that Chavo Guerrero told Wrestling the administrators there said, listen, there's something going on with Chris.

This is this is bad.

We gotta get him, we gotta we gotta check on him.

And after he missed the pay per view, it kind of intensified all of it.

A welfare check was requested as home in Fayetteville, Georgia.

But before the welfare check could even be executed, when officers arrived, actually they were they were alerted by a nine one one phone call.

Yeah, and we actually have the nine one one phone call here and we're going to play that for you into it.

Good good good.

Sank tuning on one one.

What is your emergency?

Hi?

The cops came to my host, and I just want to make sure that they're okay, because they sent me over to my neighbor's host.

What, sir and rest I'm at one ten Green Meadow Lane and they asked me to cop the sense because they have attack dogs.

And I went in and some of the little boy and the mom are dead, and so I ran out to scream to them, but then they went in the house and they haven't come out the other are they okay?

Have you played hold on just a moment?

I can.

I know where the controls are, but I'm not going in there.

And so yeah, saw the glasses come this?

Well, okay, ma'am.

I did the cops car?

I mean, listened to me.

What did the cops tell you to do?

They told me because this guy's a professional wrestler and I'm friends with them, and they said, can you go to put the attack dogs in the kennel?

And I did that and then I went upstairs.

I just everything was open.

So I was yelling Nancy Daniel, that's a little boy.

And I went up to the end of the room and he's been killed.

I went up to Nancy's where she sits to watch TV, and she had been strangled in the tape on her face.

And then I didn't see mister Benois.

I don't know where he is.

I didn't want to go down on the basement for some reason.

I just okay, ma'am, she might be doing.

Now there's more cops here, but both.

God, ma'am, will live in my man.

What did the cops tell you to do?

Did they tell you to go to the neighbor's house?

Yeah?

And okay, now they came when I said, everyone's been murdered, and they went in the house and I said, I looked in every room but the basement, and they went in the basement.

And now they haven't come back out.

Okay, we have got contact with our cops.

But if they have, they're okay, ma'am.

Our cops are okay, but they're okay.

But if they told you to go to the neighbor's house, you need to stay over there.

Okay.

No, I'm here, I'm right outside the Benlaw's house.

No, I mean they just said stay here in the driveway.

I just got nervous because they never came back out.

Have contact with yours?

So people that went in the faith, you, okay, they do?

She she's talked to the cops in the house.

Okay, okay.

Sorry, I was nervous that he might be in there and do something to them.

I just don't know what told to get out of the house here.

The one that found the start her body and he stiff with the cops ran down in the facement and she had seen him, prayed something that happened to the cops.

Your pap sheet and listen to me the echo.

The dispatcher said, he has contact with him, and they're okay.

Okay, okay, and they're okay, not a cops here.

So I just wanted to make sure your cops and aducement were.

Okay, okay, everything's fine, okay, all right, thank you, bye bye, thank you.

I just wanted to mix.

So that was the phone call from the neighbor.

God fucking love her man for for going through there, and kind of what a horrific thing to kind of doumble upon or definitely not good timing.

It sucks to have to see that, especially the Daniel.

He was young.

Yeah, he's a real little child.

I think he was thanking me.

Oh, I don't want to give any bad wrong.

Daniel ben Law he was seven years old, I thought he was say six or seven.

Fuck man.

And it is Chris jericha who's extremely close to the family.

He believed that Daniel bin Wall suffered from a fragile x, which is a condition Daniel bin Wall suffer.

He suffered from some type of neurodivergency.

I don't know that there was ever a diagnosis.

He suffered from an unknown issue that caused him to develop at a different pace and it brought immense disruption to this family.

To Chris bin Wall, Daniel, his son was very small for his age, and he and Nancy really were at odds over the treatment of their of their young son, Daniel, to the point that Chris bin Wall was actually injecting young Daniel with human growth hormone.

He was administering HGH to his own young son.

Yeah, it tells the tale of a guy that had lost his fucking mind, honestly, which all kind of goes into my theory.

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There were no signs of forced entry.

The door was unlocked, the house was quiet, the dogs were alive and roaming the property.

Inside the house, I mean in room by room.

In one area of the house, ben Wall's wife, Nancy ben Wall, was discovered.

According to the police report, Nancy's limbs had been bound prior to her death, with her arms being restrained with co axle cables and her feet being duct taped together.

A balled up combination of a tube, sock and tape was also found in the kitchen trass and appeared to be soaked in dry blood, which led police to believe that it was being used as a makeshift gag.

Prior to Nancy's death.

Injuries indicated that ben Wah had pressed a knee into her back while pulling on a cord around her neck, causing strangulation.

Her body was found wrapped in a blanket alongside a bible.

Officials said that there were no signs of immediate struggle.

In another room, their seven year old son, Daniel Benwall, was found.

Daniel was suffocated and killed in the bedroom and a bible was left next to his deceased body as well.

He had internal injuries to the throat area, showing no bruises.

His exact time of death is unknown.

Toxicology reports determined that Daniel was sedated with xanax and likely unconscious when he was killed.

His body was not as far along as Nancy's body in the decomposition.

It was later alleged that Daniel ben Waugh had the genetic disorder fragile X syndrome, and that this was the cause of domestic problems within the ben Wall family.

It was also suggested that track marks on Daniel's arms were a result of HGH injections because Crispin Wall considered him undersized to his age and condition.

That's awful ben Wall was located separately.

According to the ballard in Fayette County Sheriff's Office, Crispin Wall committed suicide by hanging.

He removed the bar from a lap pulled down machine in his workout room his exercise room and fashioned the end of the cord from the machine into a noose, then released the weights, causing the strangulation of himself and ultimately his death.

The sheriff said that ben Wall was found hanging from the Pulley cable machine.

It's alleged that the search the search history on ben Wah's computer showed he had researched the quickest and easiest way to break a neck.

Ben Wall had then later used a towel around his neck attached to the handle of the machine, which he pulled down using a very heavy weight and let go, presumably breaking his neck instantaneously.

And one of the crazier things was each death had occurred on a different day.

Nancy appeared that she was killed on Friday, his son Daniel was killed on Saturday, and Chris Binwall killed himself on Sunday.

And what unsettled investigators wasn't just the loss of life, but kind of the the order and presentation of the scene.

And that's why a lot of people have claimed that something more in a fair I mean, he doesn't get more nefarious than fucking murder suicide, right, sure, but some people claim there's more to this story because of the cult like atmosphere inside the inside the house, bibles had been placed by each each body in the crime scene.

There were no suicide note, there was no sign of struggle with an outside intruder, no forced entry, no chaos.

It felt staged right, It felt deliberate, almost kind of ceremonial.

Then there were some text messages popped up before the bodies were discovered.

Bin Wall had sent cryptic messages to coworkers and supervisors in the wrestling industry.

One text message simply read, the dogs are in the enclosed pool area.

Another contained his home address.

He wasn't asking for help, he was giving directions as if he knew exactly what would be found and wanted somebody to find it.

Toxicology results later revealed the presence of a lot of testosterone, which goes along with like steroids and whatnot, paining medication and anxiety and high anxiety drugs.

The medical examiner would rule the case a murder suicide.

But from the moment that the police stepped inside that house, there were a lot of questions.

There was a black cloud hanging over that entire investigation.

Why the time gaps between the deaths, Why the bibles, Why the text messages instead of a call to a family or authorities.

Why no note When the autopsy moved beyond the the body and into the brain, that's really when we started to get a detailed look at what actually was going on with Chris Binwaugh.

Doctors examining Chris Binwall's brain found brain damage so severe, so significant, the tissue showed signs of chronic traumatic insphilthop inceophilathropathy, what we call CTE, the same degenerative conditional that's football players that probably you and I suffer from from playing football in high school.

Encephalopathy in suffophakovic is one specialist compared it to the brain of an eighty five year old Alzheimer's patient.

That's crazy.

In wrestling, there's what is called finishing moves.

A finishing move is the last move you do on your opponent before you pin him.

Bulk Hogan's was the leg drop.

Stone Cold Steve Austin was the stone cold stunner.

He'd kick you in the nuts and he'd drop down his butt and ricochet your chinnel off of his shoulder.

The Undertaker uses the choke slam and the tombstone pile driver.

Chris bin was was the flying head butt.

It wasn't the stunner, the tombstone.

This motherfucker got in the highest part of the ring, he dove as high as he could in the air, and he landed on his goddamn head.

And he would do that sometimes multiple times a night, three hundred times a year, brain trauma, every single night.

Jump smack, jump smack.

He would just get a top rope.

And there's some guys when they jump off the top rope that you know, they don't get a whole lot of air when they do it.

Oh yeah, Chris Binwah launched like a like a missile flying through the sky man, and he would jump from one end of the ring clear to the other and just bounce his head off your body or the groud ice man.

And a lot of a lot of the gimmick finishes where Chris bin Wah get lined up for the flying head butt and then his opponent would roll out of the way.

So you really just have Chris bin Wah flying twelve feet through the air and landing on his head multiple times a week, hundreds of times per year.

I mean, And even if it's not a direct like even if it is a worked head butt, it's not a direct head on head contact.

Just the jolt alone from from your on your body to your head.

That fucking jelly around your brain eventually wears out.

Absolutely.

I wonder I probably have a fucking grape jelly in there, fucking schmuckers or some shit calm cold jelly that got that ky jelly baby aintal ease?

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So this wasn't mild trauma.

This was a brain, a mind that had been battered into dysfunctions from decades and decades and decades of flying through the air and laying it on his head for years, though, cris bin Wall had made a career out of violence that looked heroic on television but was catastrophic inside of his own fucking skull.

Unprotected chair shots, repeated concussions, and his signature diving a head butt that we just talked about, a move where he his head pretty much absorbed the entire impact.

Over time, that punishment started to reshape who he was DTE doesn't just cause headaches or memory loss.

It rewires your entire personality.

It brings mood swings, paranoia, depression, impulsivity, emotional deadening, and all of those tell the tale of what Chris bin Waal was exhibiting the months and years leading up to his ultimate suicide.

People become more aggressive, less empathetic, less able to regulate thought and behavior.

In simple terms, the breaks stop working, and friends had noticed it long before the murders ben while he became distant, cold, mechanical.

They even said he forgot things.

He withdrew from people that he once loved so much.

Some wrestlers said that he seemed hollow, He said that before, almost like the person that they knew that they'd known, had been replaced by something quieter and darker, almost like there was somebody else living inside of his body.

This discovery gave the world an explanation, a medical reason, a science based monster.

It allowed the tragy to be framed more of a broken brain rather than a broken soul.

The CTE may explain the rage, it may explain the depression, It may explain the distorted thinking, but it does not explain the time between the deaths.

It doesn't explain the placement of the Bibles and the sending of the text messages.

If the brain damage was the spark, then the chemicals may have been the fuel.

By the time of the death, Chris bin Wall had a toxicology profile that told the story of a body and a mind under constant chemical management.

Testosterone was present in his in his system along with prescription pain and testosterone is gonna be present in any fucking guy's body.

Yeah, his was an obnoxious amount of testosterone along with prescription pain meds, anti anxiety meds.

This wasn't entirely unusual in professional wrestling at the time.

It was actually fairly normal.

Wrestlers lived with injuries, insomnia, pressure to maintain an inhumane physique.

Pills didn't really mean weakness, It really was survival from from night to night.

You can't really believe a thing the hault Cogan says, But he said that after he got done with a match, he would take like twelve ibuprofen and drink a beer that was like his in a lot of a lot of wrestlers have dealt with substance abuse over the years.

Yeah, they got a self medicaid because if they take time often that's you're fucked.

You're the money, yeah, your entirely livelihood.

Yeah, maybe it was explaining kind of like their their pay and if you get like if you're on sheet or if you have to do like if you take like regular pay, and unless you're like a one of the top dogs, if you take time off, you're you're kind of fuck your fuck and then your your place isn't saved, you know what I mean.

The next person could come up and next man up.

You're fucking You're down in the undercards.

You're you're fighting in the very first matches and house shows.

So it's it's doggy dog, very doggy dog.

Yep, you get your throat cut, man, if you're not showing up for work.

But stack together though these substances, it can really distort judgment and emotions.

Posterone can seriously amplify aggression.

That's why they call it fucking roid rage.

Painkillers numb the pain, uh, and they numb more than pain.

They dle your fear in your consequence, like the that mechanism of your brain that tells you like, oh, this is a bad decision or this is a bad choice.

It dolls and numbs all that, and anti anti anxiety drugs can cloud your memory and kind of reduce your inhibition.

So if you and I weren't seeing one another and then you and I got loaded down on anti anxiety pills, technically we might be able to take advantage of one another, just because.

I don't think it even takes that, buddy.

Yeah, we don't need no pills to fuck each other.

Yeah, you had a little bit of sleep deprivation, a little bit of fucking chronic brain trauma.

And that's the thing, And that's kind of my theory here, Chris bin Wah.

Not only was he dealing with CTE, he was dealing dealing with debilitating fucking chemical burnout.

Oh absolutely, And that if you've seen, if you've ever talked to somebody who's steroid fried, it's a different kind of crazy, buddy, it's a different kind of brain fry.

And you're when you talk to somebody like that, you're like, what the fuck did I just talk to And you add the the steroid burnout on top of just the crazy brain trauma, brain trauma, brain you put those together, that's the most toxic cocktail ever, man.

And that's what was wrong with Chris Benwall.

I hate to say it.

We're going to talk about some other things about the possibility of Chris Kevin Sullivan going up in that house and killing everybody, and some other alternative theories.

Chris bin Wall did this, and he did it because he was out of his goddamn gourd.

He was out of his freaking mind.

He was chemically physically altered.

He was essentially take like a brainless a brainless zombie, and injected full of chemicals.

And that's what you had with with Chris Binwall.

A friends and coworkers, they noticed changes before his death.

Mood swings, rapid weight loss, increased isolation, He became more rigid, more obsessive, more withdrawn.

The discipline that wants to find him became.

It began to look like compulsion.

His body wasn't chemically pushed forward while his mind was quietly unraveling.

That was another thing I wanted to touch on.

I think a lot of Chris bin Walls unraveling was he was so obsessed with the process of working out, lifting, wrestling, just that regimen.

That was the one thing that he could always control.

Once his body started to slow down, Once he started to get to the point where he couldn't work out like he used to, he wasn't wrestling like he used to.

It all became too much for his brain to comprehend that he no longer had that structure to adhere to, and removing that structure from his life it created such an immense void that the CTE mixed with all the chemicals.

He he couldn't do it, like, he couldn't take it.

It was like it overcame him.

And I think that that is my official theory that wrestling did this to him, No doubt about this.

For sure, Chris bin Waugh did he committed this atrocity.

But wrestling did to Chris bin wall what Chris bin Wah did to his family.

If Chris bin Waugh had never been a wrestler, I don't think we'd be having this conversation.

Perhaps I could be wrong, but that's my official theory is that wrestling did this to Chris, and then Chris did this to his family.

So when the official story he said that brain damage caused the collapse, it does leave out an important layer.

This wasn't just a damaged brain, It was a damaged brain operating under a constant chemical fog.

And when you combine brain trauma with drugs, with exhaustion and isolation, you don't change the behavior, you change the person altogether.

Now we talk about Kevin Sullivan.

To wrestling fans, Kevin Sullivan, he wasn't just another performer.

He was famous for this.

You know, Undertaker was the was the prince of darkness, right, but Kevin Sullivan, he was the task master whenever we whenever we watched wrestling.

Kevin Sullivan preyed upon the satanic panic of the eighties and he he his gimmicks, you know, like stone cold, Steve all Road, drink of beer, what that's like his his on screen.

That's your gimmick, that's your thing.

The Undertaker, he's a fucking guy that works in a graveyard that berries people.

Kurt Angele was an Olympic gold medal I mean he really was, which he really was.

Yeah, but you always have a gimmick, and Kevin Sullivan's gimmick was darkness cult just all these kind of like nefurious darkness associate things and that was kind of that was his stick.

So people were afraid of him.

Kid did not want to see him on television because they were scared of him.

He very much pushed the satanic imagery, the cult leader gimmicks and storylines were built around mind control and satanic manipulation.

And this is long before true crime podcast existed.

Kevin Sullivan was already playing the role of a real life Boogeyman inside the rest of the world.

But he did have a very intimate connection to the ben Waugh family and that's where the rumors kind of exploded.

Kevin Sullivan had been married to Nancy Beinwaugh before she left him and married Chrispin Waugh, and she was cheating on Kevin Sullivan with Crispin Wall.

That alone was enough to fuel decades of speculation.

Fans they whispered about jealousy, about revenge, unresolved, hatred, You marry that with the satanic darkness, him being a cult leader, the satanic, satanic imagery and it it.

It dumped a lot of fuel on that fire.

Of the speculation associated with Kevin Slivan possibly sneaking into this house and killing this whole family.

They think there's a lot of jealousy revenge.

Some claim that Kevin Sullivan never forgave chris Bin Wall for stealing his wife.

Others insisted that he made threats years earlier about killing Nancy and Chris.

None of it was proven, but once the tragedy struck, that's where the that's where the narrative immediately went.

There were some eerie coincidences though, that people like to point out.

Kevin Sullivan was reportedly in the general region around the time of the murders for wrestling related reasons.

Internet message boards and slews they seized on the This kind of was like blood in the water for them, though.

The message boards lit up with with conspiracy theories and was Chris Bin while frame was as a stage murder suicide, did Kevin Sullivan's is his dark persona?

Was it something real?

Now?

I don't know if there's anything.

I don't know that Kevin Sullivan ever did.

I think he's talked about it.

I'm pretty sure he has, it, says this video says Kevin Sullivan admits to murdering Cris Bin.

Wall in the art of wrestling, Italy.

Used to say say the biggest lie over and over again, it's the truth, you know.

Yeah, that's well, I mean, you guys got away with a lot though.

With murder too.

And the other thing stretch.

What about all these fools out there that clay that you're somehow of the truth will preached.

Well, it's this way conspiracy theory people, And I believe there's some conspiracies, but because you was such a fabulous wrestler, you don't want to believe it, you know, you want to look at somebody anything else.

And the one that gets me is, well, he's he's in the Church of Satan.

Come on, I go to church.

I'm a Catholic.

I go to church and Sundays that discuss ship with priests.

But if they have to believe it, it doesn't bother me because maybe that's how they sleep at night.

Maybe they don't want to see their hero is what that happened?

You know, I really do get that.

I really do you understand that?

Sure, it's it's the thing.

You know, you look for any other truth than the truth, anything else that's possible.

People lead.

Yeah, and that's the thing is on on screen.

Kevin Sullivan played the task Master, the manager of this dark dungeon of people that that that killed and subscribe to this satanic shit.

So people see him for that.

I want to point to you towards the literal fucking the Treacher from Hell Kane.

Now, I mean, I'm familiar with who Kane is.

Glenn Jacobs.

He's the mayor of Knoxville, Uh, Tennessee.

Caine played the most maniacal Treacher from Hell in wrestling in the in the nineties.

He he started as Isaac gangkam Dds.

He was a fucking uh Denis Dennist with yellow teeth.

But then he was off screen for a while and he came back as the Undertaker's long lost, presumed dead brother, Yeah, who had been burned badly in a fire.

And you know Caine, the big red and black the singlet with the red and black leather mask and the wet hair.

When that motherfucker crawled up out of the ring in nineteen ninety eight, ninety night, whatever year that was due, I was my little heart.

I was scared for everybody in that in that wrestling organization.

I was scared for.

That was a scary scary man.

I mean, and it's a lot of the alat of it was like, you know, the build up and then just the overall like finally seeing and it was just, yeah, you know, pretty fucking crazy.

And I used to cover my face with when he come on the screen.

Oh oh fuck, I covered my face up with the butt.

I was scared of Caine.

Every single wrestler that you talked to about Cain in Jacob's this is a real name.

They say that is the most profoundly intelligent, kind human being that they have ever encountered in their entire life.

This guy used to sit in the back.

He would go out and he would literally portray Satan.

He just like a creature, a demonic entity from Hell, and he would be in the back reading romance novels like not.

He didn't drink, he didn't go out.

He's had the same wife his entire life.

He wasn't a shit bag.

He was back there doing fucking Potagoram's theorem and helping kids with homework and stuff.

One of the literal bettest best humans you can imagine.

And because he was always associated with that character he was, that's like who he was, Kinge.

But he's honestly one of the best humans to ever be in the business.

So that's not fair to say, like because Kevin Sullivan played this little dungeon creature that he killed Chris bin Waller, Yeah, and murdered his seven year old son and killed his ex wife.

Yeah, it's it's it's literally like the same.

It's it's acting.

You know, you don't see your favorite actor in a movie and you see him fucking do something crazy and you're like, oh.

Yeah, that's he'll do that in real life.

And you know what.

The He may have been married to Nancy ben Wall, but there were so many flash in the pan relationships back there, back then wrestling.

All those couples that got married in the wrestling industry back in the eighties and nineties, not a single one of them stayed together.

Nope, every single wrestler lost his wife.

Yep, every single one of them.

So it wasn't strange for for something like that to happen.

But to the conspiracy minded fans, the Bible placement near each body, it felt symbolic, almost ritualistic, like something out of Kevin Sullivan's old gimmicks.

They pointed to the lack of forced entry and argued that which that, and they argued that ben Wall couldn't have done all this alone.

They questioned why the investigators ended so quickly, Why no deeper look into the personal enemies, Why no re examination years later, and then there was the WWE angle.

The WWE had every reason to close the case fast.

A lone wolf narrative protected the brand.

It avoided lawsuits, It avoided deeper scrutiny in the drugs, concussions, and backstage culture.

A messy conspiracy involving another wrestler would have been a public relations fucking nightmare nuclear bomb for the WWE.

The important truth here, though, like we said, I do believe it Kevin Sulivan's core.

He's a good guy, right.

There is no evidence that Kevin Solvent committed this crime.

He is always denied any involvement and police never even named him as a There was never he was never a suspect.

But conspiracies are what they are.

They don't need proof.

It's just someone on the internet writing a story.

There's mystery, there's silence, and there's silence, people assume the worst.

When the full truth emerged, WWE shifted instantly from mourning the loss of Crispin Wall to kind of like pr containment.

The tribute episode that honored Crispin Wall became a symbol of how fast the story kind of unraveled.

Within days, Chris Bin Wall's name was scrubbed from history, matches disappeared from highlight packages, his merchandise was pulled, His interviews were edded off off of old programming.

He became a ghost in the company's archives.

They launched that WWE network and they didn't have any of his matches on there.

Ye a man who technically existed but could never be acknowledged as what they had on their hands.

Officially, WWE adopted a simple narrative, a murder suicide caused by traumatic brain injury and drugs.

The case was treated as resolved.

There was new wellness policies that were announced.

Chair shots to the head were phased out, which was a very sad part of my childhood.

When they quit hitting each other in the heads with chairs, crazy chair shots, man concussion awareness suddenly became part of public messaging and to the company this was this was progress, and I applaud them for that progress.

To critics, though, it looked like crisis management, a way to draw a line under the disaster, kind of protect their brand from lawsuits, protect them their sponsors from to keep their sponsors from pulling out, but where a story kind of where a story closes too neatly.

There's a lot of doubt that's involved to this day.

Fans and analysts, they start picking at the details.

Three different rooms, three different days, three different bodies, the bibles, the symbolic, the symbolism of all of it, the cryptic text messages no suicide note a lot of people, it doesn't seem like it didn't seem like a moment of blind rage.

It felt almost like structure.

It felt kind of deliberate.

But for me, it feels like a very structured mental unraveling is what it feels like to me.

It feels like somebody that said, I gotta do this, I got to kill my family.

But God saved me.

God saved me.

You know.

It just felt like a deep mental unraveling.

And there's so many questions that are that are called, that are just the answers are are are right there, and I don't even think it's worth kind of going over a lot of it.

But from all this uncertainty, there's alternative theories that flourish.

Some believe the official explanation ignored a lot of inconsistencies.

Others say that corporate pressure kind of shape the story into something easier to accept.

One damaged man, tragic outcome, no further responsibility.

There are a few confirmed details that kind of make you raise your eyebrows, raise your eyebrows a little bit.

The days leading up to the catastrophe, Chris Binwah was very unsettled about his routes of travel.

He started to change the way he got places, almost like he felt like he was being trailed, like he's being watched by somebody.

He started to like erratically change the way he got to places and not travel the same way that he normally would.

This can do a lot of This could have a lot to do with like having a fucking chemically fucked uphead and being you know, all the brain injuries of all the But then also nan See was outward about she thought that people were following them or people were watching them.

Another strange turn in this case.

There was a guy that actually updated Nancy ben Waugh's Wikipedia page before she'd even been discovered deceased.

He updated her her Wikipedia page and said that she was dead now.

That guy was brought in for police questioning, and that whole entire interrogation is available on YouTube.

It's three pretty long videos.

But this guy just a fucking Internet dork.

Sure that heard the rumor Chris bin Wall missed a pay per view, heard the rumor he missed the pay per view because his wife was sick.

Said all right, for Chris bin want to miss this, she gotta be dead.

Sure, and he updated her Wikipedia pages that she was dead.

I don't know if we have a Wikipedia page.

I don't think we do.

You.

I've looked into making one for us, and there's a lot of fucking hoops you gotta jump through to make it there.

I've always wondered about that.

It should be easy, you would think, Oh, so there's anybody that wants to take on that under that undertaking, make sure you put in there that we fight dragons.

There were professional dragon fighters, ye'd be pretty cool.

They are fathers and esteemed dragon fighters.

So the autopsy told us a lot.

But the one thing that didn't really tell us is who who he Who he really was at the end of his life, he was a damaged, isolated, pressure strip version of himself.

Psychology tells us your identity is very fragile, right, but who you are is built on memories, built on emotions and connections, and once all that stuff's gone, you're not who you were.

It's just you're just literally a shell of yourself.

Well, that's kind of what makes this story so difficult to process for a lot of people.

It forces us to confront the possibility that responsibility and sickness can exist at the same time, that a person can be both accountable and fucking profoundly broken, and that understanding the why of it doesn't really soften the actual the crime itself.

And that's why it's so hard for resting fans to see the spectacle that Chris Binoi was and to be like, yeah, that guy killed took his seven year old son doping full of annex and then squeezed his throat until he died.

It's crazy.

Yeah, they've tried to they've tried to erase Chris ben Wall from a from memory.

I know.

There for a while it was they were completely hands off of Crispin w oh yeah, nobody would even mention his name.

Now you can find his matches on the ww archives.

He's slowly more I guess accessible.

His his his media is more accessible, but still a huge black eye from from the history that WWE wants to.

Keep black eye huge, a huge black eye.

There's no black guy.

There's no black guy in the story.

He's probably huge if there was.

So that's the story of Crispin wall I do think at its core, this was the absolute precipice of how bad the wrestling industry was in the nineties.

Yeah.

The drug usage, Yeah, for sure, Fucking night after night after night of having your skull ricocheted off the ground.

I feel like it wasn't far after this that they started having like an enforcing their well wellness policy.

Yeah, old wellness policy.

I think it's still loose, but yeah, this is.

Right when Triple H kind of grotesquely fat.

Because he was coming off it takes steroids anything.

It was like everybody you could tell, like a huge shift.

Yeah, they were strict on him for for a while.

And I mean there's no other better, you know.

I mean, I don't want to say a better incident that calls it, but I mean.

It's pretty unfortunate.

Yeah, it's it definitely was the precipice for the change that was needed.

Have you seen his older son, Yeah, I have it just like so much like him.

He wrestles too, doesn't he.

I think he tried tried to, but.

He just doesn't have his death.

Like, Yeah, the reason they called him the Canadian crippler the wolverine was because of his tenacity and his intensity.

I mean, his son is missing that and you can't You're not gonna be able to escape the name at this point either, right.

And also I think from the very inception of Crispin Waff, the moment he was conceived, I think that there were there were wires that were not fully connected in there, in that, in that.

Makeup, yeah, and everything else was just the fucking cherry on the Sunday.

It was it only you know, exacerbated all the other issues he had.

Definitely caused it to boil over.

But from the very beginning, cris Bin Wab was fucked up.

And then you add just the obsession element, probably unmedicated, untreated, you know whatever that whatever that ultimately looked like in the ways that he needed to be, yeah, not self induced.

And then just the night after night of getting your skull beat in on top of taking steroids, on top of taking painkillers on top it just it fried him, man, And then he something something finally clicked enough to him for him to say this is then this is it.

This is everyone's gonna die.

I'm gonna die, and hopefully we all go to heaven, because I'm gonna leave a Bible next everybody.

It's my official narrative that Kevin Sullivan was not responsible for any of this.

I don't think so at all either.

Probably a decent enough human.

You can say, you can say something bad about everybody, honestly, but I'm uh as for me, the confliction For me, I'm I'm glad that my childhood got to experience.

Crispin Wall.

I'm very, very sad for the fucking spineless jellyfish of a move that I think it was.

Let me see if I can find a clip.

It was Paul Hayman who said it beautifully about and I mean, I know that.

Don't take this.

Don't anybody take this the wrong way because it's not what I mean.

Killing his wife is one thing, but killing his seven year old son, I feel like it is like the unforgivable.

I think it's just I think it's all the same.

I know, man, there's no fucking way here you go.

This is this is Paul Hayman.

I would never kill my wife.

Walk who's saying, my boy?

Why?

Why?

Yeah, you could admire his work all you want, but you know what, you could admire his work all you want, but I'll give you my take on it, since you want to keep on yelling out, my boy.

Three people died in that house that night.

Three.

I don't care about CTU.

Three people died in that house that night.

Only one person had the choice behind it.

The other two didn't have a choice to die.

So if that's your boy, fuck you, okay.

Barry Woolsaid.

As a performer amongst the five greatest I've ever seen in my entire life as a performer, loved having him in ECW.

Was gonna make him the ECW World Heavyweight Champion, was going to put him in a feud with Eddie Guerrero that would have carried us the very first pay per view was going to be Sabo versus Uh Saboo versus Taz, Tommy Dreamer versus Raven Chris ben Wall versus Eddie Guerrero.

If we had gone on pay per view in ninety six, killing, that would have been our first view.

So as a talent remarkable as a human being, I don't care about CTE.

I don't care what the are Nancy and Daniel had no option he did.

Fuck him perfect here, Paul perfect Well said, that sums up exactly how I feel about it.

To me.

A lot of a lot of shadows and moving parts there in the background over the years over what actually transpired inside that house, what actually happened.

It was a psychotic, manic state where someone lost control of reality and probably did some things that they immediately regretted.

I'd say that I think that tells the story itself.

I think, you know, the constant back and forth over the treatment of their son, who suffering from some type of neurodivergency, not maybe not not suffering, it's just who he was, just well, it was just you know, and Chris had a hard time coming to grips with who his son was.

And it may have boiled over one night and he said, all right, get rid of my wife.

And then that panic said in like a fuck.

And that's one of those things that variable could have been part of the argument that started the whole thing.

And then the the steroids and the testosterone and all that kind of just took over, and and.

That's why there was a day between the death of his wife and the death of his son.

He's like, okay, I think I can probably manage this with her being dead in his psychotic rage, and then he's like, you know what, fuck this, she she's not None of us are.

None of us are any better off if she's gone, so which sucks, man, It really, it really is a lie.

But that's the story of Chris bin Wah.

Fuck him, fuck him, fuck him, piece of shit, bitch, horrific wrestler, shitty human, pussy ass bitch.

Knew Jack was a real motherfucker.

New Jack would have he would have killed them and not killed himself, and he would have said he's glad they were.

Dead, left the lights on.

He would like eight meals around him and ship the nu Jack is crazy.

Oh my god, look him up.

You don't know anything about Nuwjackie's fucking.

Wide Look up the mass transit incident.

Mass Transit.

That could be a really good Patreon episode Mass Transit crazy shit man, crazy shit.

That's where he killed somebody in the ring.

He's tried to kill so many wrestlers.

Who was who did he throw off the JumboTron?

I went to the JumboTron.

It was it was it was a scaffolding.

Yeah, dude, he fucking literally all because.

He fucking potatoed him in the match before.

He actually hit him in the match before.

So he got so pissed he wanted to kill the guy.

That was another guy working with him, not a full.

Deck, yeah dude, oh man, or just look at pictures of new jackets.

Look at his forehead.

Yeah, just google Nujack's forehead.

I'll tell you all you need to know about him.

Sorry, we make this on YouTube camera set up as being quite the bit.

Yeah it is.

My computer keeps on telling me listen, bro, you ain't turned me off or updated my software in four years.

I think I may finally have to cross that bridge this evening.

Yeah, yeah, that'll be fun.

All right.

I hope you guys have a great week.

As for Rob Dog and I, we were You know, he's worse soft than I am right now, but yep, I'm sure I'm not far behind.

That's usually how this stuff works.

So this happened to you a couple weeks ago with your daughter's car something similar.

So yeah, she fucking drove into somebody.

So it's all it's the earth balancing itself out right.

It is.

But no matter what, we're all here together.

Good vibes.

Only we're uh, you know, happy to be here with you and happy to share our life with you, and we consider you a friend.

Yeah, if anybody wants to help fun my car that I got to fix right now, I'll sell my underwear.

We're doing a go fund me to buy Rob a Hellcat for Nick, so then Nick can buy him a Honda Corp.

I've never wanted a Hellcat in mind.

Let's make that abundantly cillar.

You know what car I want really really bad, like really fucking bad.

Onto CRVRV.

That's what I want.

They're pretty cool.

Not they're not cool.

But I started shopping for my sixteen year old Chad ebt all the research onto CRV.

Dude, like, well that in a RAB four bulletproof, right.

I went to the auction with my dad.

I saw three or four RAB fours with over three hundred thousand miles on them.

Don't want just like just driving out there, damn.

And yeah, so a RAF four that's another one, dude.

I like the new Broncos a lot.

I think those things are fucking sick.

They looked apart, But I'm telling you terms of battle tested.

Sure, buying a car for your life on the CRV, baby, they've gangster ship too.

What the fuck the CRV you even stand for?

I don't know comrag volva, what is yeah?

Do those are those actual acronyms or do they just throw letters together when they do cars like that comfortable runabout vehicle interesting her emphasizing the Honda SUV's design for daily usability and comfort.

I'm built for comfort, not speed.

All right, guys, have a great week.

In the meantime, Rob Dog has something he wants to take.

I want to see your task