What's up And welcome back to another episode of No Sealer's Podcast with your hosts now fuck That with your loaw glasses Malone.

So it's like, like I was telling you, so the first draft, really, any story teller could write the story.

I mean, I don't think most of the population the storytellers.

But right, the first draft was just a story.

You know, it was comprehensive like it was.

It was a story.

It was a complete story.

And maybe you know, ninety eight percent of the population can't write it.

So it's like the first draft is that's how you know I'm a storyteller.

The second draft because writer it's called Cribs Versus Dracula is.

It's the cultural commentary that makes it authentic, right, Like I realize you have to grow up in the culture.

Like I watched this what's it called Save the Last Dance with Julia I think her name is Julius Stiles or something, and white girl.

Dances with black guy and commercial That's all I remember from.

That sure, right, So I remember watching it and then on Instagram like a white guy wrote it, but he was trying to write these kind of cultural parts.

And I don't mean just any culture.

I mean specifically like.

Street urban cultural dialogue, right, and he was saying shit like she saw Like, so the story is Julia's character, I think that's her name.

Julia's character is she was going to this all white school and her mom died and on the day she was actually trying out for julliard and her mom died.

So she has to go live with a dad on the South side of Chicago.

So she's at this ball.

She's at this all black high school in her first day in high school.

Right at her dad's house, she sees some dudes.

She sees some kids dancing, and she asked her her friend, which is the sister, right, the sister of the main character.

Hold on, let me tell you so Derek's sister.

Right, Derek's sister is named Chanel, and that's Carrie Washington's character.

She asked Carrie Washington's character like, oh, what's that?

And they're just dancing, and Carrie Washington's character like, Oh, that's just a little bit of hip hop in real time.

Like when I would go see white films, you know what I mean, white films that talk about when I would go see mainstream American films that talk about niche street urban cultural things.

I think I always prepared myself to you know, I'm sure this is not gonna be right.

It's not like when I go see Friday, I expect or Boys in the Hood.

Really comes from hard in the dialogue.

It really comes apart in the dialogue.

Yeah, right, and you could hear it.

And really there was a specific scene where they were at a club and the ex girlfriend, so the main character's ex girlfriend, which his name was Derek that Sean Patrick Thomas was dancing with the white girl on the dance floor and his ex girlfriend is at the booths with her friend and she's like, oh, she over there cranking your nut.

She all up in your nut.

Who the fucked fucks like that?

And so again I'm saying, like, right, when I would go see mainstream American ideas, because I don't want to say white ideas, because there are some white ideas, right if we want to call them that, like the Godfather, that be perfect where it'd be like this perfect cultural take.

So but if a mainstream American person probably wrote a film about the Mafia, it.

Would be just as bad.

Like you're going to have to really you know what I mean?

Takes a little but because as a writer, Mario Puzzo is like the like the guy who wrote Boys to Hook, who's yes he exactly John yea, yeah, yeah, yes, yes.

And so I think as I write the story, right, it's like it's like the second draft really.

Showed you that somebody involved culturally, right, it's writing the story.

Now it's like, this is where it stops being like, Okay, if it's ten thousand story writers storytellers in the world, right.

Out of eight billion people.

Right, if it's eight million people, is one percent, right, So like let's say is I don't know, I think I'm still being light.

But let's say it's ten thousand storytellers like across the world, or let's say in America, ten thousand storytellers in America.

Well, now we're reduced to it down to who could really write this type of story.

That number is gonna get really substantially small when it comes to authentic.

I log and understanding what's happening.

Right, So.

That's what the second draft did to where you're like, Okay, this guy is more he's really informed on Los Angeles street urban culture completely, this is different, right, And then now the third draft, to me is where it goes from being a couple hundred people coul write it to one person could write it like Tupac Must Die, like I could write Tupac must Die my first general idea.

Anybody could have wrote it.

The second version of it, right, you had to be from around the way to write it.

If you maybe use a crip or blood could write Tupac must Die.

But the final version of it, only glasses and alone could write that because it's going to get into this.

Very niche perspective.

And I have.

My ass off to become a supreme master of theme, like so, applying theme over and over again, and the story is my calling card, right, and that's probably because hip hop has made me such a record maker.

And theme is everything in records.

You know, every now and then you have a record that just don't have a theme.

But for the most part, themes, theme is everything in record you know, I mean, and most likely in stories, because records are nothing but just a sonic story.

So, but the third draft is just applying theme and thematic revelations where you don't know what's happening, you just can see.

This is unique versus any other movie you saw like this, and it's so odd to me, right because like one of the hardest part that's his deciding should Dracula become a Like making Dracula crip is one thing, right, but.

Knowing that he can't be black is another thing.

Knowing that to have a black vampire, if it was a black film in the ghetto as a vampire, you would have.

To reimagine vamp.

And people been asking me like, well, you know, you could just get a tall black brother.

I'm like, nah, vampires is white, you know, or or they not black?

Like I've saw.

What's that film?

I really liked this film too.

It was like five Twilight and they had a black guy that was a vampire in the very first one.

He had like dreads, but he acts like a white man.

Like he just acts like a mainstream American person.

Forgive me.

He's like a mainstream American guy.

Mean, like you know, like he's a black he's a black dude.

You know, you got shout out to Trill, Shout out to Steve, Black dudes, brothers, street niggas, Black dudes, brothers, street niggas.

The black The.

Black guy that was in Twilight is a black dude.

Like you know, that means you just happen to be black.

It really has no correlation to nothing else that black people do, especially poor black people.

A brother is somebody who probably made good, come from somewhere familiar with the ghetto, you know, a brother, you know what I mean.

And then a street nigga somebody that's rooted in kind of the It's like seasoning.

Like it's like when you make a pot of yams, like you know, normally you get the people just scoop.

The yams at the top when you in and know Pete, you want the yam from the bottom because that's all the season is, like a wing when you crack that.

That's like the street nigga when it comes to.

From now on, Can we call dudes that believe aren't with the street like that?

Can we just call like orange jams?

Yeah they are.

They're like Hella, orange yams, and they the top is jams like they the top, you know what I mean, Like it's there, but like you know it, that's healthy yams.

When I go get yams.

Shout out to hot Dog, right, my boy, hot Dog.

When I go get yams from a soul food restaurant, I'd be.

Like, Oh, mine's from the bottom, bro, I want all the seasoning.

I want wings.

You know that's it so low ceilings, glasses.

My brother Peter boss in the house holding it down.

You're trying to get it back together.

I think we're gonna make it into a sixth season, but we got to really put some effort in because we need to make this thing become a thing.

None of these people should be better than us at this point.

I think we put in the work.

But this would be episode three hundred and one.

Yes, And speaking of that, where's the talent.

Who?

You didn't bring the talent onto the show today?

It's just us.

I know that's the problem.

What happened to the guy who went off about the Bronx.

He's the talent.

You can't have a show without the talent.

Lex is a mad man.

And because people are entertained by the insanity.

But I do think that people really enjoy us unpack our thoughts, you know what I mean of whatever we think and to me, like I feel like you can offer people so much because I know where you really will are incredible when it comes to what we're hearing.

But okay, back to the point.

So the third draft becomes where only I can write it.

And this is where I know that I'm a special writer, right because the first draft, right, like I said, anybody that could tell stories can write it.

The second draft, anybody from where I'm from that can tell stories could tell it.

The third draft is where you see, Okay, Glasses is an amazing writer.

So it's like, this is the only thing I could write.

And it's odd, right because it's a thriller, right, it's a thriller.

I mean, excuse me, it's a slasher film.

You know, slasher films tend to not have really great stories.

One could argue is the most famous slasher character of all time hasn't ever set a line or has he spending like fifty movies now Jason.

So you feel like Jason is the most famous slasher.

Friday the thirteenth, that's like probably the biggest brand in the in the genre, I would say, historically, what would you say is the biggest brand?

Nightmare?

Nightmare on El Street.

Freddy krueger Bro is like premier slasher.

Sure, Shandy krueger Bro is the flyest, coldest slasher in life, and would make Freddy Krueger an amazing slasher, that motherfucker funny.

Sometimes like he got way more personality and character than like Jason.

I think Jason is probably more.

He just kind of wanders around.

Huh.

He just seems like he just kind of wanders around and then just falls upon people and kills him.

And Jason, I've never seen Jason run.

I'm not saying I haven't seen too much anything.

He just around and.

Happens to be there.

Yeah, and I've seen Freddy run Like Freddy.

I've seen Freddy louse Like Freddy is like the closest thing like to a real slasher.

Sure, yeah, much better character, much better character.

I seem to know.

When I think about thirteen, when I think of the I think of the John is just the brand, and I don't know, I feel like they've made like ninety of them.

Greatest slasher of all time.

Oh yes, between Okay, so it's between Mike leather Face.

And Jason, gotcha.

So making a slasher out of Dracula is different, you know what I mean.

It's interesting.

But the point I'm saying.

Is, so there's things that I have to take into.

Account understanding hip hop, because when you're making a hip hop slasher.

Those two things don't go together.

Like for some reason, slasher is a very rural thing.

It shouldn't be, but it's it's the very rural and sometimes suburban, you know what I mean.

Like, but it's usually people somewhere in the cabin in the forest we're like nobody should be at.

Like I was watching Yeah we need to Pool, Blood and Honey, and I just thought it was gonna be horrible.

Right, I'm working on my movie and I'm like, well, let me watch this Winnie the Pool movie.

And it ended up being fantastic in a slasher way.

Now, don't get me wrong.

The story it wasn't horrible actually, to be honest, it was like like they reorganized that story, so I wasn't mad at it.

But even how they had Winnie the Pool and Piglet looking it was just weird.

But again, once I let go of everything, I thought of winning when Piglet from Disney and then I just watched it as a film man.

The kills are premiere, the kills are top tier dog So it's odd, you know, moved hip hop into the space.

So it's funny because I've been writing.

A a A musical called Kendrick Versus Drake the Musical, Like I feel like I think we've talked about this a few times, like the culture, where do we take the culture?

Where do we take hip hop artistically?

Like Okay, I'm going to always I've came to another conclusion.

I'll probably make records for another ten years, but I don't know if it's going to be the.

Primary source of how.

Living right, which means it's fine because I love it, but as I take it in the Hollywood with hip hop slashers, you know, not like I watch a lot of people steal from hip hop and then they want to other genres like I don't want to do that.

I actually want to bring hip hop into other places, Don't I don't want to just go to other places like I want to bring hip hop to other places.

I want to bring street hermy culture to other places.

Like in a perfect world, like with my whole crypt series, right, you will actually feel like, Damn, crypts are not just what I saw in the Dennis Hopper film or what I saw the news, like these are you know, regular people like you know Pete right, people need to see that they're regular people that have dis affinity for each other.

But it's odd because I think I'm going to be successful at it.

They're going to die a lot like this whole Crips, So many crips is gonna die in this Crypt film series, Like oh my god, cribs will be just dying on top of dying, you know what I mean.

And I think it'll help people, yeah, because.

I think people look at the mafia and they feel more connected to mafia characters, like, oh, you know what that could be me?

Like why I want you to feel like you could be Tichy too, like you know what I mean.

So I've just been working on it and dilling it in and just overall, you know, figuring out the next moves for hip hop and leading the way, you know, not just when I first came into hip hop.

Man, I'm so grateful, you know what I mean, Like not the music, but when it started to provide me a living you know, my street urban culture or artistic ability started.

You know, shit made me some millions of dollars over the year, you know what I mean, And now it's time for me to put back into it, right but also by allowing it, by introducing it to people, for real, not just the traditional way that they've digested the culture before.

Like I told you before, right, like my hip hoptometry store, like making you know, people who need glasses, making glasses cool, you know, and and making a hip hoptometry store making.

And you had not mentioned that before.

I would remember the term hip.

Hoptometry hip hoptometry.

Yes, yeah, that's that's great.

Any I'm stealing now just outright anything that's such a great joke, punchline.

Do the musical?

Oh can turn anything funny anything?

No, Kendrick, Kendrick Well versus Drake.

There's there's more life Memphis with the Syrus.

I mean it's constant.

It's just constant the Memphis.

It's okay, Kendrick versus Drake.

The musical is going to be one of those things that I do where people will be like this motherfucker is crazy.

You know what I'm saying.

Is it gonna be a musical?

Why not?

Why not?

Why not invade fine arts?

Like?

Who?

Why should I allow fine arts to stay away from me?

Yeah?

I mean you can get yourself like a Tony Tony Tony for this.

Feel me?

Yeah?

Take it to broad.

Kendrick versus Drake.

The musical on Broadway.

I don't even I won't even know.

You can make it a movie like Greece, but that needs to be on Broadway.

Imagine that, and I'm there.

I'm not gonna lie.

I'm going to do it like from restaurants to to films, to.

Plays, to musicals to even art exhibition.

Like I'm just looking to take hip hop, Like hip hop did so much for me and then I dedicated so much time into it that I'll be damn if I turn my back on it.

Now, I don't give a fuck what.

Money I made, Like the money I made ain't even nowhere close to the money I'm about to make.

They're not even remotely close.

Like by the time I got into the record industry, that was always limited funds, you know what i mean.

But all of these other places, what I'm about to do with hip hop and what I'm to.

Encourage people already that that's a part of hip hop to do, it's a rap peat.

It ain't gonna even be close.

It's not to be close, bro.

Now, I'm just interested in random.

I mean, you've you've managed to infuse this idea into places like driving down a street types of commercial establishments that I just never thought that it could go most of the typically that applies to the atometry concept.

But now I'm like, yeah, I wonder, I wonder if you could you have like a hip hop butcher, oh who you like hip hop cured meats or something like that, Like you go, and I'm like, here, yo, here you go.

You can't.

You can have a hip hop butcher and you get thick thick Hamburger.

They sell thick Hamburger patties and beef ribs and stuff like that.

Listen, Hartified.

Think about it.

I've already got an idea to move hip hop into food, right, but they already have that, right, you got Trail Burgers.

You got It's.

A few places to me that are doing well.

Yeah right, so right, restaurants and fast food.

That's cool.

But like, and I'm doing that too, But I think the possibilities for hip hop are endless.

Like I'm watching the Master p take hip hop to morning to breakfast cereals, you know what I mean?

Something as simple as that.

I've been trying to convince Killer Mike and Currency to open up one of them to open up a car dealership.

Like Killer Mike Chevrolet in Atlanta, Currency Chevrolet in New Orleans, Like we should be able to go to those places if you're in the hip hop and order your car from Currency Chevrolet.

I just think the possibility these are truly endless, you know what I mean?

And I think that's what I understood about street life in general.

And I'm really like, I'm working on an idea to be.

Able to get scholarships in the of crip.

Like I feel like thirty years from now, people to be really confused on what Crippan did period like that as a street urban culture.

I'm going to move cripping into fine arts.

I'm going to move cripping into nonprofits.

I'm going to move cripping into so many other spaces that it looks crazy and people gonna be like fucking glass, you know, like you know, the hell is g doing?

Like you always got some shit going on?

Yeah, they will be saying that.

What about like a hip hop like a like a really ty spot like where you rent houses from.

I just don't know how you bring the hip hop part of it.

That's a that's a challenging bridge.

I don't know.

Let me ask you a question, what do you think about like a gang banging museum street urban museum.

I think you probably could get more like universality of traffic if you have a gang banging museum, because people would be like the same way like in Las Vegas they got the big mafia museum I've ever been to, but I know people go kind of fucking mafia museum, yeah Vegas, like they call it the mob Museum or something like that.

Oh yeah, I'm gonna go do.

Yeah, you could.

You could do the same thing about about gang banging in La and especially.

You could have a whole wing for like like Mexican gangs, and that'll like they'll go to that, they'll go to that.

Like you could you could have two people go to the whole other side of day and keep the lights on with just them going to their their site.

But I think because of the intrigue, here's here's where I think it makes more interesting museum to focus on, like to put it that way.

But like something that's perceived as a criminal element, there's still like so much more that's you know, veiled in secrecy, you know, compared to this like normal street culture, which is broadcast and advertised, so people will get a better chance to see it there just behind the scenes stuff, for sure, but in the criminal and it's designed to not be seen or designed to have a significant portion of it not be seen obvious, just for legal purposes.

So you could provide, you know, a glimpse into a broader proportional space, I would say, with a gang bang museum than just a street of a culture museum.

Hm.

I could be wrong on that, and I probably am because it's me.

No, no, no, I think you're right, and if it don't matter, if I believe you.

So, it would just need to not be in the neighborhood.

It would just need to be somewhere out of the neighborhood that's reachable.

But I think that would be done.

Pack it right in there by all those damn shoe stores over there on Fairfax.

No, I know what it is.

Oh yeah, that's fire.

You get what I'm saying.

Like, I am a spokesperson for the most famous cultural movements in the history free of man, and you can't tell me it's not valuable.

It's entirely too many people making.

Needs upont millions, upoint millions of dollars every year and they don't know shit like to them, it's like this general consensus idea, but like to me, it's like I actually do.

I actually know the nuances that make it special.

Yeah, I like that, Pete.

And that's to me where I'm going.

What you've been listening to in hip hop.

Lady Man, not too much.

Honestly, I haven't had like then, like stuff at the gym, which is kind of fad, and I don't know what it is because I'm not looking at my phone.

So it's just kind of whatever Spotify rolls over next.

But I'm so far behind and everything I have to spend it.

Anytime I listening to something, that's usually something that I can try to monetize for myself.

I learned something about So that's really the most by listening to this last several years, I consider, you know, to me a lot of like bluntly speaking, I can consider entertainment a luxury that I have not earned.

That's why I don't know any actors.

That's why I don't know any new music.

That's why I haven't seen a movie on television in the theater that was current in probably seven years.

That's a luxury that I haven't earned for myself.

That's just I like that, I like that, I like that, I like that as a lot, and most people will not fuck with you.

And that's the problem with California.

If I had a problem with California, which I've apologized to yellow Wolf, because yellow Wolf was.

Talking about white California and I didn't quite understand what he was talking about.

So I felt like a jack.

Trying to explain Huh, I bet I could explain it.

No, No, I get it now, yeah, Because it's like you don't realize how much California provides distractions.

Through through convenience, and it's a few other things that that kind of distract you from being focused, Like if there's so many opportunities here to get yourself into some shit to distract you, right, Like.

How many social places we have here, right, tons of social places where we can socialize, right, which is a distraction for most people because most people don't go to places with intentions of furthering anything.

Like I was talking to Joey today, It's like he thought being backstage meant something, and I'm like, being backstage means something if you're back there networking, Like if you're back there meeting artists, trying.

To figure out which producers is who who can help you special career.

But most people have turned going backstage to a concert into just a photo op.

And I'm like, so, you put gas in your car, you know, you put on your nice clothes, you put gas in your car, You pay for parking because you're in La, right or you Ubert right, and you went through it waiting in the line because most likely you waited in the line.

Backstage, because it's the line backstage in LA.

That's what makes LA crazy.

The line backstage is just as the line in the fucking front because everybody thinks they a store right for a fucking hundred likes?

Yeah.

No.

I I had a similar conversation recently with somebody like about traveling.

It was a girl from LA.

It was like, I said, I don't give a fuck to go travel anywhere, Like unless there's money on the table, I'm not going in there, because the fuck do I care.

I'm gonna go spend money to go sit in traffic park, lug my shit through TSA, sitting in an uncomfortable chair for hours, get my shit, go to some hotel, check in, and then go do what my regular day somewhere else.

And then go through all that hell again, i'mb out thousands of dollars.

The fuck am I doing?

Traveling?

To me is those overrated like cultural fad I have ever seen in my life.

And it's crazy because it's really a culture fang.

It totally is like.

People be posing because you went somewhere, and I'm like, that's what people kept saying.

It was like, gee, you know you don't believe in vacations.

I'm like, bro, every day of my life I try to turn it into a vacation.

I don't quite know what you mean, Like I don't feel accomplished.

I'm with you in that sense.

I don't think I've made anywhere near enough money to not be working.

And I don't mean working like, oh, I'm.

Going to make some money, but like genuinely putting out brilliance to the world, not necessarily just music, but just period.

You know what I'm saying, Like.

Impact, just impact, and like I grew up like I'll be blunting.

I'll probably talk about you know, my childhood is that very often on the pod.

But like I grew up with acts, like I grew up with access to luxury that ninety nine point nine percent of people never have, you know, as a kid.

And it wasn't like for the sake of it was because my grandparents, you know, but we were going but they had retired so that when we had family vacation time, we would go to see them because the otherwise they were always gone on a chance of seeing.

Well, this was on some giant private yacht with a whole crew.

It was like that show below deck.

There's a whole crew there, there's a cook, and all the rest of the people be like, oh, what it was your favorite restaurant?

Just I don't know.

We had a private chef.

I never ate at restaurants on vacation when I was a kid because I was hanging on my grandma who was had on oxygen tank and couldn't leave the boat.

So it's just what I want to go have, especially living in Miami the last several years, What I'm going to go leave this beach with my cocktail here to go fly all the goddamn way over there to sit on the beach with a cocktail there.

It didn't make any sense to me.

Do you think that's part of it?

Whereas like, you know, that's not like a big deal because it was Yeah, I.

Know, it's not a big deal to go somewhere and take a picture yourself there.

I just know that innately.

But like at the same time, like it's it's always it's women driven, bluntly speaking, no question about that.

When I talk to girls who are obsessed with traveling, I say, what is your itinerary?

All I want to go there and I just want to experience the culture.

What what are you doing when you're experiencing the culture?

Because I see all the pictures there's no culture there.

Zip lining is not experiencing someone's foreign culture.

Having a margarita by a pool deck at a resort, it's not experiencing someone's culture.

Nor just having food at a luxury restaurant across the street from the set of resort.

What are you talking about.

You don't speak the language there.

What are we talking about.

Yeah, you're gonna have to if you want to as somebody who goes to different states and experiences culture, it's not there.

You're gonna have to walk and it.

You know, you have to have a.

You're gonna have to have some diplomacy about yourself, right because you are or an outsider like I justly think I can go to Italy, to where spaghetti started and be just fine.

But I also was the person that could go to you know, TJ Yeah, Rose, Rito Beach and even all the you know, the the what's supposed to be the vacation towns that ain't that vacation.

They'll rob the shit at you.

The police will rob you too, And I'd have been just fine in those places because I know how to act, like I got sense with other people.

I mean, I go to New Orleans and go to the ghetto and go eat and be fine, you know what I mean.

But other people, you know, they go to the ghetto, and you know, they go to where hip hop is birth and immediately run into like problems.

Thousand percent.

Well I'm the same way though, But I also know, like if I'm going to the people, I want to go to Turkey, you don't speak Turkish.

Like that by itself is a huge hurdle.

You're gonna go.

I'll see touristponts.

You know what you're going to learn.

You're going to learn about an old building, when it was built and who fought and died there six hundred years ago.

You can read that.

No, so my opinion on why that fat specifically in Black America, right, because that's a fat in Black America is people want to say they went somewhere.

Try know if it's like I asked somebody that before I said, hey man, it was a girl.

I was like, this is probably back in twenty fourteen.

I'm like, would you want to go there if you couldn't take pictures?

Like?

Why would I go if I can't take pictures?

And I'm like, well, wouldn't it for you?

It's perfect?

It's so mad.

I'm like, y'all think that's a bit that.

People go to the same places, like people do the same exact thing.

And I'm like, do you really want to experience something different or do you want to feel like you're in this elite class of really not an elite class.

I think they just want to feel like they're not they're not left behind from the class at this point, you know, you go to Tuloom and take a picture with the giant wood weights, or at the zip line, or how many stupid girls come to Los Angeles drive all the way out of their way through traffic to go take a selfie in front of that stupid apartment building.

Palm or whatever it is from the TV.

Show Who's TV Shown?

It took me years to figure out the shooting about.

I've never seen a show.

I guess it's from the show Insecure.

Some apartment building in.

Englewood I never saw.

Yeah, I never girls going to take.

A picture this goddamn thing.

It looks it's got that you know, mid century modern whatever built into the ie built in the late sixties architecture.

That looks like shit, they're gonna stand there and take selfism.

It's the stupidest phenomenon I ever seen.

In my life.

Remember that phenomenon was happening when people would take signs, take pictures in front of the signs at like restaurants.

Yes, that's another one.

This is as done as planking was.

I actually planked.

I actually truly enjoyed it.

But my plank was so fine.

I jumped on a full traffic and planked in the middle of the freeway.

That I'll give you.

I'll give you that.

I'll give you that.

That's not a plank.

That's didn't want to That's a serious crime, right, you know what I'm saying.

Like people was planking like at their house on the couch and like, that's lame.

So I went on the freeway right traffic.

This is you just said, this is you want to clank, I'll show you.

I'll show you how to If we're going to do this, let's do this.

And I and I planked right in on the center divider straight out.

It was it's on my social media.

Wow, that's a that's not a plank.

That's an album coming.

But but again, if you if you don't live this life, like if I'm a go, if I'm going to go eat and I want to go to the culture, if I'm going to New Orleans, I'm going to cross me from the projects.

Yeah, I'm going to the Hawkins of New Orleans, you know what I mean.

So to me, it's like when I go to Rose Rito, I will go to the part of town you're not supposed to go, you know what I mean.

If I really want, I'm going to go into the cage with the lion.

I don't want to be at the zoo.

And to me, that's when people, you know, their experience is going to the zoo, like that's how they travel.

I just wanted to kind of see where it's at and tell people who I went there?

No, no, no, no, fuck the zoo.

Drop me off in the forest, right, Just drop me off in the jungle.

Give me one badass motherfucker who can navigate it, and just give me a gun and I'll be okay, I'll be fine.

If this is my day, here's my day.

Like this whole over protect existing thing is so overrated, bro, It's so overrated, like people who do not live.

So that's why when I listen to people talk about their gang banging and la experiences, it always sounds so foreign.

I'm like, bro, were you just relegated to your neighborhood?

Like that's what you did?

Like you only went to your store, like you didn't go to nobody else store.

You never risked your life to go to Hawkins.

You know, you know, you never risk your life to go to to to go to Jim Dandy's.

You know, you didn't risk your life to go and you didn't do anything interested with all these years of gang bang and you just stayed.

In your neighborhood.

And don't get me wrong, I think it's great to build your bonds with your friends.

So you know, you all these your lifelong friends and you living form cool, But y'all didn't go nowhere to catch the metro the loan getting fights and shit, this is we're living.

It wasn't like we went to get into a fight.

We went to go to the movie theater.

And because it was no movie theater close to Watts and the metro didn't take you to Carson, so the closest one to me going, will you take the metro going?

What would be about line?

The old Blue line?

Right?

Yeah, yeah, the old Blue line.

You right to the Long Beecht Theater.

It was right there, so you know, you experience it that way.

And I just feel like everything about people has been minimized to what's been approved by people.

You ever noticed when you go to another city, oh just pay you back top of your san before.

When you're new there, you probably will see more of the city than a person who lived there most of their life.

It's not probably, it's it's not unlikely.

And first one was that in Oakland, I had random friends from all over northwest East.

Most people had their clusterer friends and their little section.

That was kind of it.

But I didn't know anybody else, like a regional free agent.

It's the same thing like with you, you know, can get out, look around, look around damn city.

Homi from mythis ever been to the Stax Museum.

I haven't either, But none of my momies.

From Memphis ever been to Stax Museum or the Civil Rights Museum where Martin Luther King got.

Killed that I went to that They never been there.

But I'm like, I've been to Stax Museum.

Bro, I went to fucking Grayson and I don't even like Elvis.

I was like, oh, I'm gonna just go anyway.

So not only did I just go to the ghetto and hang around and meet brothers and get my hair cut and go eat and yo oh man, all the wi great, Like Memphis has a lot of watch gangs, So shout out to Memphis because it's a lot of hommies out there.

And it's like, you know what I mean, Like you go bind with brothers like damn, damn.

This is crazy, you know, and it's love because you get like this take on what you're doing.

But they have their own way of doing it.

And I think it's the freshest thing in the world.

Like people don't agree like a lot of whoever, the folk who agrees with me like, I think it's the freshest thing in the world that that's what brings us together, right, Because when you meet a Memphis Grave Street, they do it differently.

A New Jersey Gray Street do it differently.

It's still and it's like you be like bro like and you could lock in and it's a connecting point that's deeper than just being black.

Now it's like, oh yeah, I'm a homie too, like Boom and you just lock it in.

So I did want to Big Moochie Grape on the pod just for that reason.

With that, you have to doog.

You got to.

I've been hearing great things about big moves.

I can make it happen.

Actually, you know something that's that's that's the dude.

I was listening to Drive Around Talent the other.

Day, Big Boot, Yeah, I can make that happen.

Cool.

What's funny is I was.

Talking to my homeboy from Dallas, from old Club Sea Dog and just getting the history on what happened with the More three and Yellow Beezy case.

Like Yellow Beezy is Finna.

I think he's going to trial, you know, on the murder for hire accusing him saying he put out a hit to get more three killed man just watching these things.

Like I saw Trap Little Ross he did a long, fifty something minute documentary on how their beef started, and it's just.

Somebody who've never been to Dallas.

In those streets at those times, but just been able to kind of ask enough questions and go to YouTube.

And I thought to myself, I'm.

Going to start doing that.

I'll be damn if I let somebody else have our thing.

But the trick comes into how do you do it without telling?

Yeah, you know what I mean?

So, like I'm watching a lot of this stuff traplow in different people because I'm going to start doing that.

I'm going to start really doing it.

I refuse to let everybody else change their lives with this street urban culture and we're not doing this same.

I think one interesting way that you could go about doing those type of documentaries in a pre trial completion timeframe is do them based on like kind of how to how like streets talk a little bit, but where you have strategically different opinion, different takes or different stories on the same thing.

So ultimately the whole composition of the piece muddles what really happened in these different perspectives of people telling what happened from different things that they had heard, you know what I mean.

So you're saying, so you'd be the main narration, and then you have other people tell their stories.

Yeah, so like you know, guy A shot Guy B.

And you go through, you know, segments with all you know boosts on the ground in the area, with people who are local, but three different people from three different places, maybe two of them arrivals with one another or whatever somebody else that isn't and you know, one of them has an opinion on one what happened, the other one has a different a different enough of opinion on what happened, and then another one has a different enough opinion on what happens.

So you get as a viewer, you can get an idea of what happened, but you can't say it's painting somebody into a corner.

Legally three people have different they would be contradictory witnesses on the stand, you know what I mean.

Yeah, I definitely think.

I definitely think hip hop and cripping is going into this space of like, here is this time to fully transition into the mainstream, and it's not going to be served the traditional way has been served, right, it's you know, hip hop, the record industry side is le is going to be reduced back down to an indie thing with a couple acts maybe, you know, in the mainstream space, which I don't think as.

An artist we shouldn't turn our back on that, you know.

Different, But you know, maybe it's like jazz where there's only a handful of young jazz musicians, Like Terrace Martin is like forty something, he's probably like one of the youngest people I know that's a jazz musician.

So I think hip hop is headed for the same space.

Rap music may will stick around, but even then, I think rap music is evolving so fast to where you have these guys that are not even there.

They're like at this different melodic rap, you know what I mean, because Post Malone and Theory is a rapper, right, but he's not the traditional sense.

So that kind of plays in my theory that like it would kind of that hip hop and R and B would kind of follow the same track as rock and country music, where rock and roll kind of ran its course and then it kind of morphed back under the country umbrella and it changed both the rock to sound more country and the country sound more rock, and I can see that happening because R and b's may be a little bit longer term a genre, and hip hop might not as long a term genre.

So hip hop goes back into R and B and it changes R and B.

But but the hip hop, you know, changes obviously along the way as well.

M hm h yeah.

But I think.

If you remember, the the movement was like hella mainstream at one time, like that the underground party was mainstream.

I'm talking about the cover of the Times news channels every day, like I need to really take time and go study how it.

Is into where it's at now.

That broke up a little bit.

How what is new words?

I know, how the mafia so.

How it went from like a rumor to John Gotti on the cover of the Times to now where mainstream.

Yeah, it's hell a mainstream, right, Like I guess the colors the colors of the mafia world his godfather, right, that's well, that probably wouldn't be the colors, actually, I take that back.

The colors of the mafia world would probably be what tells a mafia perspective from the actual police's perspective, a mafia story from the police perspective.

Oh, that would be like Donnie Brasco.

It's with Johnny Depp.

So maybe the closest well, no, because I don't even think, oh.

You know what it would be.

No, it would be untouchables.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fantic.

So Godfather would probably be I guess it could be Boys in the Hood.

I think that's probably fair, yeah, because I think and I think Goodfellas and Goodfellas is a little bit more menaced.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I could get that.

I could dig that.

That's the goal.

It's really taking hip hop right, the art of street and culture into space.

So still keeping the classic ideas of rapping, djaying, graffiti and and be boying right to whichever ever.

It's evolved too.

But it's evolved too.

But I think it's time now, it's really time for us to expand, Like it is time for hip hop plays, hip hoperas, got hip hop opera, hip hop operas, hip hop musicals, hip hop films.

You know, we kind of do have hip hop films, hip hop restaurants, hip hop pometry stores, hip hop dealerships.

You know what I mean to where people start to you know, you.

Have the you don't really need of hip hop.

What's that?

You need a hip hop bank that's like a hip hop financial consultant bank, you know, like Wells Fargo Advisors and that way people can go there and it could and it's retail enough to be accessible, like it has branches, but it's designed to be like big picture profitable.

But you can strategically like target the assets under management into companies that fit who you want to support.

M I like that.

I like that.

What's funny is Mike is killer.

Mike has partners with a bank.

I heard that he's part owner in the bank.

I just think it's coming to the time now where it's like, yeah, here we go, you know what I'm saying.

And to me, this film is so important because it's like I understand I'm going to have a fight on my hands right of trying to put Crips Versus Dracklin the movie theater because Crips is on the title.

So I'm already thinking like, do I have an alternative title?

You know what I mean?

Maybe do I have the title?

You know, change Blue?

There's Dracula Loaks versus Dracula.

Yeah, you know something.

But I just want I think I think it's so valuable, man, I think it's so valuable.

It's so valuable, thog, it's so valuable, like and we've only scratched the surface of its value.

Like it's long term valuable, not just the artistic expression, but the culture itself inspire the arts.

Yeah, you saw a run of that for like ten or so years, a little a little bit longer, where you just had hip hop artists slapping their brand on a product, a T shirt, company, of perfume, genes, whatever it might be, all these various things, you know, like or I figure what the marketing term is for product branding whatever the hell?

Sure of course, yeah, but it was never it was always done behind an individual, not behind the genre itself.

Yeah.

Like, like I was telling my guy, like with my hip hoptometry store, I would want lines from rappers, right, I would want can you read this?

You know what I mean?

Like Ray Kwan's line.

Ray Kwan's lines like a ray Quin line of glasses, like I want to make glasses.

Oh like that.

I was thinking, like the eye chart, like where they make you look into the thing if you're really test your eyes.

But then if you can knew the lyrics in advance, you would always pass the eye tests be blind as a back facts.

No, no, no, I just think we can make like glasses in the neighbor.

That's such a stigma.

Yeah, yeah, young, I needa Andre three thousand line of glasses.

What you need, get real eccentric.

Yeah, I'm I'm excited, man, I'm excited about everything coming up this year, Pete.

I ain't gonna even lie bro like.

I got so much work to do.

I don't have nowhere near enough money.

To do it.

But I'm straight.

It's all gonna happen.

They're supposed to happen.

It's guaranteed.

I just got a state of course next year.

I'm also gonna eat once every other day.

You're gonna eat one hundred and eighty meals two or eighty three times.

Well if it's three sixty five, so that'd be one hundred and eighty three times.

Yeah, use last first day and then sometimes I'm a fast for seventy two hours straight.

I think I can share this last fifty extra pounds off fifty fifty pounds, just shake it and then just my body of being an efficient machine.

Yeah, he's gonna be good.

It's gonna be good.

Yeah, three hundred and one podcast episodes.

Pete, that's crazy.

It's time this year make your trip back to LA because I'm gonna set it up for us to go sit down.

And be real.

And I'm gonna do that on Command.

I want to do be real.

I want to do fat lip.

What's funny is in hip hop?

I want to do the artist that.

The two fucking guys they're going to studio be real and sit there.

Don't smoke weed in the history.

Man, no for real because I did be real spot and he never did mine.

But I want to do like a lot of the guys to me that guys you wouldn't imagine me like Rask m hmm.

And I think we could do them at some very odd places.

I think we just got to introduce fire back into this ship.

Bro like fire.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

So I'm grateful for it.

Either way, it's gonna get down.

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