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The Lunch Table: Drake Still Dissing, Is Black Culture Really Toxic

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Speaker 1

Whatsh up and welcome back to another episode of No Sealer's Podcast with your host.

Now fuck that with your loaw glasses malon, trap, what's the deal?

Speaker 2

What's handling?

What's handling?

Man?

Speaker 3

Shut up?

Speaker 4

Got the burritos already.

Speaker 2

Out as there's a burrito.

Speaker 5

Don't do it, Trapped, don't encourage this.

Speaker 4

It's a burrito right here waiting on.

Speaker 2

They got a surfing turf, You got a surfing turf.

Speaker 1

I got king the seafood burrito because he's from Washington.

They like seafood.

Okay, Yeah, I would like to have asked for my burrito from where I want to get it from, not from where he wants to bring it to me when he wants to.

Speaker 2

That wasn't part of the bet, though, It's okay, why would we I just said nothing about you being mad?

Speaker 3

Why would you be mad?

Speaker 2

I'm not mad.

I'm not mad.

Speaker 3

Weird man.

Speaker 4

You could tell when people don't usually win bets.

Speaker 3

Oh, I don't trust me.

I don't so.

Speaker 1

Yeah that when people don't win bets also trapped.

Speaker 3

I'm a bad I'm a poor sport too.

Speaker 2

So good even when you win, even when shout.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

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We'll start right there.

Speaker 1

I got a coach around, coach, I got coach a surfing turf.

You all one, I got coach a surfing turf.

Speaker 3

Can't seafood, Yeah, yeah, I can't get one.

Speaker 2

On requests, Yeah, okay, follow him.

Speaker 1

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Let me start this stream like this before we get into all the BSS for oology to act from barackan act the boxing show.

I worry about act sometimes because he speaks about boxing so much, and he'll say some crazy stuff like I've only been interacting with him and you know, for a couple of weeks, but he was telling me that kel brooks a Hall of Famer.

Told me why there wasn't Hall of He just said some absolutely ridiculous stuff, absolutely ridiculous shit.

Speaker 3

It made me almost question, like.

Speaker 1

What is his actual what's his actual pedigree in boxing?

Speaker 2

Too?

Speaker 1

Because how could you not know Kell brook is not a Hall of Famer and then say Older is not a like kel Brook is a Hall of Famer and Wilder is not a Hall of Famer.

And I just thought it was asn But he told me, he said, glasses, budd is gonna make this look easy.

Speaker 4

He said, buddy, don't make this look easy.

Speaker 3

Now it was.

Speaker 1

It didn't look quite as easy, but it was easy enough to where I say, damn, Okay, he got it right.

So I'm proud of act coach King.

They don't win bets often.

Speaker 3

I think it's just crazy.

Speaker 1

They don't win paid up.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you are.

Speaker 1

Paid right here, feel me because that's what I do well.

And I'm proud of.

But this is his second greatest win in fifty fights.

Second greatest.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean second, his second best win.

Speaker 1

It ain't like second, who's his first best win.

Spence was a certain time spencing Canelo.

Speaker 3

About you're talking about his This is second best, Okay.

Speaker 2

A moment somebody's opponents.

Speaker 1

At I mean, you know they said Floyd farting too young.

I'm sure they'll say Bud farting too old.

Speaker 4

You know how they do it.

Speaker 3

That is what you're gonna say.

Speaker 4

I'm not gonna say anything I'm gonna be proud.

Speaker 1

Listen, this is something I could finally hold on from Bud his whole career.

This is something I finally can hold on to for his whole career because it's like Tank, It's like for years they just never fought the best fighters.

Bud got your respect now, yes, right now, I can put No.

Speaker 2

I think Bud been at your respect.

We're not gonna do that.

Speaker 3

No, respeaking with my head.

Speaker 2

You can I'm saying.

Speaker 3

Wait, wait, wait, wait, what's about Possibly?

Speaker 1

I got poppy and it's different back in hospital.

Yeah, at he said possibly.

No, I'm saying I'm saying I'm proud of Bud.

He got his win that defined his career.

I'm proud it took him long enough.

Now if we can only get Tanked to do the same.

No, the best fight, I mean somebody decent.

I mean another other fighter, and this time Paul Jake, Paul.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 1

If you're fighting a guy that's a YouTuber, it's like a great fight.

I just wouldn't say that big money fight.

Speaker 3

Make a lot of moneylas you can't shoot one hundred and eighty pound.

Yeah, that's just not right.

Speaker 1

Fast like he stole something like ninety ninety pounds four hundred and seventy pounds.

Speaker 3

Yeah, he'll make your eye any stime, forget it.

How bad is the dou Asian dude that the next day?

How bad is he?

I mean like, yeah, he un disputed.

Speaker 4

What's that in doing anyway?

Speaker 3

Anyway?

Speaker 4

Anyways?

Speaker 1

Dope anyway is kind of fighting a division where it's a little lighter, but enough for that brito so people know I pay let me let me see, let me see a coach some of these fantastic breed up.

That's a Diesel show, the Chili show.

The ship Chili bought him so y'all can eat him during the show at the.

Speaker 2

Lynch table, at the Lynz table for real, for real, man, I would have got I.

Speaker 1

Say, season really well, So shout out to my homeboy Al.

The bomb fish tacos d A b O m b fish tacos right there right there?

Speaker 2

Is that?

Is that a nigga?

Is that a nigga burrito?

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying, momb fish tacos?

I don't know if that's out of focus.

Hey trap, I got it?

Speaker 3

What's up, bro' These are the burritos that you owe me too.

Speaker 2

Yeah, are your burrito?

Go pick it up our cashf you know what I'm saying.

I have to pay you though, too.

I got you basketball bring it.

Speaker 4

Here that special.

Speaker 1

I might not even show up Wednesday because I'm not gonna bring it Windy, don't worry, Okay, So.

Speaker 2

Well go pick it up for meat.

Speaker 1

We got to go through the chat and figure out who had that.

Y'all didn't put all three scores, which kind of bothered me because it's like, now I can't really get it right, but all of y'all who had it correctly close enough, We're gonna make sure we cash up y'all something unless I had the exact three scores, because that's what I would need to get it.

Speaker 4

Scores was off.

Speaker 2

What do you mean the judge scores?

You mean the judge scores.

Speaker 3

Ran weird stuff?

Speaker 4

Know it wasn't I told you what the score was.

Speaker 1

You just wasn't listening because I actually pay attention to how they score boxing.

Speaker 4

See you actually a fighter.

I actually understand how they.

Speaker 3

Score because glass is corrupt.

You know how to judge like a corrupt like a corrupt judge.

Speaker 2

Like a Russian judge.

Speaker 1

Enough enough of all this ridiculousness.

Enough boxing.

We talked boxing last week.

Speaker 2

Oh man, you want to move past the box and that this out?

Check this out.

He would have won.

He would have talked about the sweet science and everything like that.

Speaker 3

I don't want to do talk.

Speaker 1

We could talk about that on the we I didn't like that.

We did that all last week.

That ship got carried away and shout out ran off.

It was like, these niggas talk about fighting something.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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I brought him, so y'all can finally you know.

Speaker 2

Sayble it's lunch at man slunch.

Speaker 5

As you know, since I'm a poor sport and I only win now and then I'm putting mine.

Speaker 2

Up in glass.

Speaker 4

That's cool.

Speaker 3

Keep a favorite, you know, I mean my breacause I'm a basketball season coming up.

I'm gonna get like seven mofing glasses.

Speaker 1

You both know that ain't go appen.

You're gonna end up paying like always at the end.

So you've always been to Lebron, I'm always get that money.

Speaker 2

Why that's I guarantee.

Speaker 3

Money with you is fucking crazy.

I got put up on that one.

You gotta get.

Speaker 1

Camera, man, I showed y'all the song where now listen, I try not to talk about Drake.

Speaker 4

I know that's talk about Drake.

Talk about Drake.

Speaker 1

When Drake is doing something that's in his world of ship, I don't got nothing to say when he's doing this thing.

I don't have nothing to say.

When it's something to do not with hip hop, I don't have nothing to say.

The issue becomes when it starts to involve things or people that are hip hop.

Speaker 3

So a song of here is.

Speaker 1

Leaked the other day, Yeah, at least that's what they said, those little weird kids.

Speaker 2

That was weird, weird.

Just I don't know, like something be going on with y'all where y'all not nothing in real life, but you online.

Speaker 4

Y'all just be out of control.

Speaker 2

And they.

Speaker 1

No because something is wrong because they be just there's no way they acting crazy like that.

In real life somebody would have been the crap.

But long story short, they leaked the song.

Speaker 2

I listen.

Speaker 1

I glanced because it was like, that's a good marketing front.

A good marketing front is to act like somebody leaked your song.

Sometimes it does happen, and then sometimes it is marketing right.

So I was in that I was.

I was kind of into how they leaked at these weirdo kids.

It's like, yeah, we got this new Drake song we got to We're gonna play it.

We're gonna play it on our stream.

Speaker 3

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1

We're gonna play it on our stream.

I'm okay, Well, let me see the clip.

Speaker 4

I don't know who they are.

Speaker 1

I don't really look at too many streams, but I saw the clip of the streams.

So I'm listening to the song and there was some really specific lyrics in there.

I sent the lyrics to Coach and Trap and King.

Speaker 2

Uh yeah about like about about like an hour ago.

About an hour ago I.

Speaker 1

Sent it that a ship.

Speaker 3

Nigga's lying, let me see this ship.

Speaker 2

Well, well, well well you do got a green bubble though, so he might that thought is green.

Speaker 3

That ain't me.

Speaker 1

I never take that much of when you were It says, when you were a part of the team.

We used to be planning our trip, our Mexico trip in the spring spur of the moment.

Speaker 4

Why did you think you could get us eringe.

Speaker 2

That's not a breakdown on that right there, though?

Speaker 1

What's that everybody assumes he's talking about the mar DeRos he is man, ain't assumption you did say the mar and that was fire too that it's not fire that the song the song was fine.

Speaker 3

You're saying that little part right there and it's not.

Speaker 2

I think it was a couple of balls after that that was That was also like those those doubles that you like, trapp.

Speaker 1

You know that's yeah, it's like okay, like what you're talking about matters.

Speaker 2

Oh wow.

Speaker 1

So to be talking about how you used to plan your trip with men to go somewhere at Mexico in the spring, like the organization, the wit of it was cool, but it's like, Bro, why are you talking about the trips used to play with a nigga to Mexico in a song?

Like don't get me wrong, I'm off for bro trips, you know what I mean?

Bro trips is cool, but I'm not gonna talk about it later.

Like, Bro, we used to go everywhere together.

If we fall out, Bro, I always think I'm giving it a hard time, but it just be shipped like that that.

Speaker 3

I mean know, I be like, nobody around you said, why are.

Speaker 1

You talking about playing a trip with this NBA nigga somewhere in Mexico.

Speaker 3

We've already come to the conclusion Drake's support system is trash.

Speaker 2

Get that.

Speaker 1

But I think part of the problem is like you just saying that's fire because they was in there, that's fire.

Speaker 3

That the words that he put on paper with fire when you was al.

Speaker 1

We used to be planning our Mexico trip in the spring spur of the moment.

Why did we think you could get a serene You sound like.

Speaker 3

A hurt woman.

Speaker 5

You get it, doesn't You sound like, come on, put it on paper now.

Speaker 3

It sounds like all Drake music's on the same.

Speaker 1

If Nikki said that would be fired, that would be hind the niggas so at this point, but it does matter, bro, like as friends.

We're friends, bro, but we can't just talk to you just like that.

Man, I used to take you to Columbia.

Bro, that's not cool to tell a friend.

You know what I'm saying that I ain't player like you gotta keep it player, bro.

Speaker 3

You know what I mean?

Speaker 1

And and no there and and and this is the thing that's bothering me the most right This is the thing that Oh I got your beverages to please show off your beverages, man, check out the player this, I'll pay.

Speaker 4

My I'm all the way out of Mexico.

Speaker 1

Feel me shout out to my man mom fish tacos player, head over the inscram.

I promise you the best seafood burritos and tacos and all of California.

Speaker 2

You gotta say, glances Malone lunch I sent you there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, sure up, he'll look out for your special.

I'm gonna try to get him to come up with my own combination burrito.

But it's like, Okay, it's one thing you're talking about your homie, and it's one thing you're talking about the Homi Damar.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but you know, y'all me in.

But it's just that's weird.

Part two, Why the fuck.

Speaker 1

Are you sewing the regulabel for promoting somebody dissing You said, oh, this song defames me, and then you still talking like how do you talk tough as a like that?

Like you ever saw somebody get punched in the face and they still be talking tough after they got punched in the face.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's just me.

Speaker 3

Always it'd be weird.

But but we already know Drake is a walking feminine contradiction.

I have to say this is pretty good, Like, but come on the trump.

But when he but when he put pin the paper that it was tight on paper, like what he what he wrote was was witty.

So here we go.

I'm saying it was feminine, but it was witty.

It was snarky like a girl.

It was that's just snarky.

Rapp is what he does.

I think that's his thing.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but it's like coming from a guy, it's just I don't know if it's tight.

Speaker 3

Then no, it's not tight, Like I wouldn't say it was fire.

What I'm saying the words that he put.

Speaker 1

On paper, like if he wrote this for like Gloilla or something.

When you was a part of the team, we used to be planning our Mexico trip in the spring bars the moment, why did we think you can get us o ring?

Speaker 3

No, it still wouldn't be okay for Glorilla.

Speaker 2

So let's let's I want to break that down.

So, so was the was the spur of them?

Was the spur of the moment part of it?

Like they losing to the Spurs and you're talking about Yeah, that's kind of that was kind of.

Speaker 3

With it the Raptors to the Spurs in the finals or something.

Speaker 2

No, No, I think the raptors that be.

Who did the Raptors be when they.

Speaker 3

Why play for the why play for the Spurs?

Speaker 2

And then he got traded to the Spurs too, that's a fact.

Speaker 1

Yeah, But I don't think that y'all working together to put together that on tandre like working hard to like spur them ament like catch hard Drake did that?

Speaker 2

Man?

I caught it.

Speaker 3

I caught it.

I support Drake caught it.

I caught it.

Yeah, trips in the spring, I don't think he should put that in the sense.

Speaker 1

Why did we think you could get us a ringe?

Speaker 3

He should not put trips in the spring with fellas.

Speaker 1

And I get I get all of the connection points.

Listen, Homie is a high value here is nice, But it's just this has always been my thing with Homie, right, this is kind of why, Like I've always thought of him as a phenomenal talent.

I just don't fuck with niggas that kind of be like soft, not like they not salt.

Speaker 2

Like.

Speaker 1

You don't got to be the toughest nigga on a block as a hommyes bro, but you gotta at least stand up for yourself.

Speaker 3

Or stand up for something that's really.

Speaker 2

It now though he's kind of doing it now though, No, this.

Speaker 3

Is not stand up.

Speaker 1

You have a lawsuit going currently against a record label because you lost a battle, right and you're like, Hey, you guys promoted this song where this guy was insulting me in a way that I didn't like.

So I'm showing you guys for promoting that song.

Speaker 5

Let me ask you a question, trap, Is it cool promote stand behind the police and talk shit.

Speaker 3

After they called him?

Yeah, stand behind the police and talk shit?

Is it cool?

That's what's doing law.

Speaker 2

M that's what he's doing now.

Speaker 3

He got behind the police.

Now now he's talking shit.

He'll let you know.

I'll call the police.

Okay.

I got a question though, like, what do y'all want Drek to do?

How does he rap now?

Because he's known for being snarky and a little feminine in his raps, he's a petty betty, Like, how does he rap now?

How does he go back to rapping?

Because this is what this is how he wraps the actor.

He raps about soft situations and and love.

Speaker 1

It's cool when it's about a girl, like it's already questionable when it's about a girl, it's like, okay, but everybody interacts with women and you know kind of the pain that women can cause your life, so you accept it.

Like even though his was to be a little bit like it's hard when you grew up on too short of Snoop or sugar free to kind of hear that level.

Speaker 3

But I get it.

Speaker 1

We need to balance.

Everybody can't be hard on a woman.

Speaker 4

So you got to have.

Speaker 1

Drake who feels like he's a little softer on a woman.

So I agree that's a balance that that that rap music that that we needed at that But it's you can't rap about guys the same way you rap about girls.

Speaker 3

Y'all gonna make Drake make a song called Toxic MASc Illinity.

Speaker 1

It's just it's cool when it's about a girl, like if he was rapping about Lotto or Nikki or Rihanna, and yeah, you could be like yeah, but still it makes when you rap about a man the way you rap about a woman, like we used to plan our trips together.

Speaker 3

I know, and I'm forgive me.

Speaker 1

It's the voice.

Maybe it's the voice dog, but you used to plan our trips together.

I don't know if you can make that sound like Stern parblem Is.

Y'all gave him a past when he was doing that ship about the women.

I've seen it as a gateway.

I knew what Drake was going.

Speaker 3

Drake talked, niggas don't even do that ship when they talk about it was a gateway.

When you started talking about them Serenas and all them women and shit, I peeped it out.

Then niggas don't real niggas don't talk their business out like that about women like this.

It was who already knew Lebron was coming up eventually and all the rest of this ship just the guy, you know.

Speaker 2

So I feel like as if Drake always they always seen to use his rhymes, that's his ways of expressing his emotions, you know what I'm saying, And he couldn't.

He couldn't really necessarily do it within the way most people do it, within being angry and coming across like that.

So he really That's what Like I asked people one time, like what what did Drake, Like, what did Drake bring into that pile?

Like what is he bringing it?

And it was like it was like he brought vulnerability into it, Like you know what I'm saying, because.

Speaker 4

You had TUPAC DMX, you had a bunch of people.

Speaker 2

Trap.

Speaker 3

Could I ask you a question?

Mmm?

Speaker 5

Because you seem like you're defending this dude or something that's your question.

Maybe maybe let me ask you a question.

This dude is rich, could have a thousand friends, could buy a thousand friends, and he crying over one nigga?

Speaker 3

Are you serious?

Birth of all Kings?

He's cried over this is not his first nigga.

Speaker 5

He's string to me like nigga kicked rocks then, Like what the fuck is wrong?

Speaker 4

Wood?

Speaker 3

Many tears drake us over dudes like these are your best friends and they gone.

Speaker 5

Nigga got a thousands best friends you can pay for you want to, like you, I'm.

Speaker 2

Not defending them.

I don't see him defending them.

You canna stop that fending.

No.

I just some person that looks I look at I look at it, and I'm saying both sides know what I'm saying like that, though it ain't like and I can always say there's nothing enough, there's nothing that I would do, But I gotta look at it so as soars understand why you know what I'm saying and what's causing it?

Speaker 4

Like you want to do.

Speaker 5

Trap huh stop okay and stuff you won't do what not okay?

Speaker 3

And I agree with that.

Speaker 6

You know, yeah, well you talk about used to walk through the neighborhood.

Speaker 2

No, no ship like that.

I can't not No, I'm not condoning Sucker ship at ull spring.

Speaker 3

Why would you say that spring trip trip?

Speaker 2

I want to hear what the Drake with the Drake fans really were, how they were explaining.

But I'm not even like I'm.

Speaker 3

Taking trips with dudes, man, you know, a spring call up the Spring Fellas my spring partners for this trip, like what the fu the summer Fellas like summer trips with these guys either my summer they have this so like my.

Speaker 2

Thing, My thing is more so this stuff like and I've been wanting to do this.

I wanted to just leave all that ship alone and just make music.

Bro, Like stop stop feeling you know what I'm saying.

But I think he's doing this as like a marketing tool or something like that, you know what I'm saying, and like just keeping the that's what the people want to hear him talk about it like that.

But you're just making then you're just making it seem more like just standing all like like all the all the the stuff.

Man, I'm not really.

Speaker 3

Like, hey, G made the perfect alone.

He made the perfect point the last time.

The problem with Drake is he's making music, but now we're dissecting it a lot, like he is making music now because of his action that we're like, really, it's the same music, but when now we're looking at it really tough, like, oh man, you shouldn't be saying this.

You can't say that.

You shouldn't be saying this.

I don't even know where where Drake goes from here, because this is the same music he was making.

Drake was always soft with his music, but now we're just looking at it super tough now, like yeah, this don't sound you know, you.

Speaker 2

Know further, you know further too it.

I think he had he had a part where he Bronway.

It seemed like it was like it's all subliminum stuff.

So it's like it couldn't necessarily say and I'm not talking about him, I'm talking about this, that this, but it seemed like it was a part of that.

He was talking about Braun on the tour.

Speaker 1

Shout out to mid West Coop Cash Money j Prince and the Hood co signed Drake All for the money.

So much for keeping it real.

He mocked us on our culture.

Now everybody Canadians see I didn't do that cool and everybody used to be mad at me.

I'm like, nah, it's cool.

I'm gonna let him do his thing.

But I don't believe in just standing with people just because they're around.

And don't get me wrong, like I remember just how successful and it could have been easy to build.

But it was like, yeah, now that shit mattered to me.

Dog Like, like I think I'll do music with people, but.

Speaker 3

Man, I don't know.

I just I don't know.

Speaker 1

I don't know.

I can't just do certain things.

It fucks with me, and then I get it when it's happening, Like I understand why he's doing what he's doing with the raps.

Shout out to the person at the table, shout out to everybody the lunch table, cooking man, much love of y'all.

Speaker 4

Somebody made a point.

Speaker 1

They said it could have been a reference of him saying that they was never going to the finals, so they was playing tricks to in the spring.

Speaker 4

But it's still like.

Speaker 3

The same thing.

Speaker 1

Just I don't know, man, It's just it always sounded like this to me.

Speaker 3

The only time it didn't was when.

Speaker 1

Those songs were those songs like you know, but I just feel like this is probably not the time to be kind of trying to take people.

Speaker 5

But your character does you'll call somebody if you have a problem or you know what I'm saying, Like this dude is saying it on the record like he.

Speaker 1

Even somebody as successful as Drake, right, don't get me wrong, Like I get it, but marketing still matters, like marketing still matters, and he understands it, like he gets it, and he's willing to take those steps, like he's willing to kind of be out there.

Speaker 3

And corny and stuff to do this.

Speaker 1

Or be judged, you know, or be judged because some of the stuff people might not feel as corny and some people don't think it's corny.

It's the same thing with thugs, Like thugs just did the same thing where it was like he knew those phone calls could make him look crazy.

Speaker 3

And see that's what that was my point, and that's my point with the even with the Drake situation, I think him because whoever said that, maybe he was talking about Spring Trips because of they wasn't gonna make the finals or whatever.

But the problem is it's the character flawed in Drake to where we immediately went to Spring Trips with Fellas.

Yeah, because it's him, that's true.

Speaker 1

Like we used to be planning our shifts in Mexico.

When you said the dudes, I was like even talking about with his friends.

I don't know you.

Speaker 2

That's what I'm saying.

It was the door open, So you don't know what are you talking about?

Speaker 1

Listen, it's hard like right when you're see most pop artists kind of see what's happening right, Like they understand their marketing.

Bravado is for you know, I mean, they understand their marketing audience.

Who they're marketing to is the next generation of youth.

And he's in a weird place right where he's trying to kind of be what he thinks hip hop is, but he's still such a pop artist that it would be weird.

It would be like if Britney Spears started talking about some real shit, like you know what I mean.

Like historically you kind of watch pop artists kind of get to a place to where it's over.

Not artists who grew into pop artists, but artists who are pop artists, you know what I mean, And then they kind of get into that place to where it's like, you know, it's pretty much like done.

It doesn't matter your level of talent.

Once you decide to kind of make music for the next mainstream audience every time and you don't drench it in flavor and culture, you know what I mean, then immediately you start to become something that's like out of touch.

Speaker 3

Does that make sense?

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

And I wonder how the conversation about him not being hip hop has been a big topic lately, and maybe the way he's trying to give us the music, maybe we just not perceptive to how his wording the wording of shit right now, Like I don't know how to understand that shit, how he's saying, hey, spring sprem trips with I can't understand how to receive that meal.

Maybe it's me.

Maybe I don't know you say it's fire.

I'm saying I understand the I get the little uh, the little nuance as to how you put the pin on paper, I get all that, But me hearing the words and trying to understand trying to get the words as a fella because people keep on talking about Tupac and Biggie and all these guys talked about their emotions, but it was the way they talked about their emotions, like I can, I got it, you know, I understood I think us as rap fans, understood it better we They worded it in a way to where we can get it.

Drake uses words and put stuff, phrases, stuff to where I'm just like, that might have been more for a lady, like a woman can understand that a lot better than us.

Speaker 5

Well, that wasn't good for Toronto either.

If you take it the other way, He's like Toronto's gonna never win.

So we planning trip.

So either way, he's say, it's not good.

Speaker 3

I don't think stuff, and I think is kind of a it's not good trap emotional kind of a guy who talks about well, yeah he does it well, but I can kind of I can receive it from while a better.

But Drake is saying this stuff like like you said, it's kind of like.

Speaker 1

And it's not just the lyrics, bro, it's just why are you talking like that if you're suing this company for what somebody was saying about you when you was competing with them.

I just feel like, like like King said, that's standing behind the police talking shit, you know, standing behind the police, like I beat your ass and the police right there, but you keep talking and the police said, I whoop your ass.

Speaker 2

And it's like.

Speaker 1

And I do think he understands it, Like he gets that this is how people are going to listen to the next record, maybe the whole record doesn't have a bunch of stuff.

So he understands it and he's willing to sacrifice from the marketing perspective.

But it's just odd when it's coming from a pop artist, you know what I mean, Like when it's coming from a pop artist, that's not normally how pop artists do things.

Now, artists that have went pop is different versus a pop artist, you know.

Speaker 3

What I mean.

Speaker 1

Usually they just kind of see like okay, like in sync and then they just do their thing.

But it's like he's still kind of almost like I know, he understands that he's not hip hop right now, Like I know he gets that.

I know he understands it, and that's why he's doing everything outside of hip hop.

He like, you know what the jig is up on me.

They know I'm not hip hop.

Fuck glasses and they just telling everybody.

You know, now they know you know what I mean.

So I'm gonna go sit down with this guy like black people.

I'm gonna go over here and I'm gonna collab with these rappers in England and I'm gonna say they're the best rappers ever, and I'm going to do everything to not put myself in hip hop.

I'm gonna get on a platform with this little white lady and laying in a bed and say they're all losers.

And it just starts to come across really, you know, like.

Speaker 3

He gets it.

Speaker 1

So it's weird that he's still trying to articulate himself the way we do.

Speaker 4

That's my problem.

Speaker 1

So it's like us, he's conceded being hip hop at this point.

That's not he's not a rapper.

He's conceited being the culture at this point.

He's like, Okay, the jig is up.

They blew my cover.

But it's like he's still trying to hold on to a level of like culture, like a like a like a street urban kind of culture where like you're gonna lay in a bed and you're gonna be snarky.

You know you're gonna you know, you're gonna get on a song and talk about basketball players, and you know you're gonna go sit with Aiden Ross.

Speaker 4

You're gonna call him on the phone.

Speaker 1

Hey, you know Aiden, and he's gonna call you sassy and you don't realize that's something you should punch him in his fucking face over like sassy.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you know what I'm saying, and stuck to each other.

Speaker 1

Like you're so sassy, and so you just say that you sassy and they start calling each other sassy.

Speaker 3

Bro.

I'm like, it was cry it was you know what I mean?

And it's.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, I'm not doing charisma.

I just say charisma.

So it's like it's like, you know what I'm saying.

It's like just here, and it's like you're still a guy, You're still a man, you know what I mean?

And and you're still Dennis's son.

I was looking at this thing the other day.

They did an interview with kis Sean and I talked I called trouble about this.

Speaker 4

I just did an interview with this dope podcast.

Speaker 2

I saw it.

Speaker 4

I never really followed him, but I saw this clip.

Speaker 1

Shout out to kis Sean and they were talking about how he got writer's credit for Best I Ever Had?

Speaker 3

Right, They gave him twenty five ye I've seen that one.

Speaker 1

Right, and I was like, you know, I remember hearing that story, but I remember hearing kis Shine's version of that inspired.

Speaker 3

Best I Ever Had?

Speaker 1

It was a beat floating around at cash money, right, And I remember hearing that and I was like, damn, this is cool, but like I wasn't into it.

And I remember hearing Drake's Best.

I've had to think of like, damn, this is tough, like, you know, not even really understanding music enough to where I could associate the two.

And so this is two parts of the reason I'm telling the story.

Fast forward.

Kis Shine you know, takes his credit, sends it over to the label.

Hey, you know, this is my song.

This is an interpolated version of my song.

My music inspired the music.

The words that I wrote for Wayne you know on the hook inspired the actual chorus of this song.

Speaker 4

Blah blah blah.

Speaker 1

Universal hears it.

Tom Wally does the right thing.

They make sure they give kis Sean his twenty five percent of the song.

Right now, nobody knows because Sean doesn't have a relationship with Drake.

Kis Sean got a relationship with Mac MacMan, a president of Young Money, Good Dude in Tune and Waye.

So the business happens.

Kiss Shine gets an award for the song, right, and he comes out the award and he's showing off his award.

Speaker 3

It was like, oh damn, okay, what is this?

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, I co wrote best I Ever had?

Right, Oh, I co wrote best I Ever had.

So the shit goes viral and I remember it going viral at the time, and uh no, P, I don't want to see him gone.

P.

Speaker 4

That's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1

If I want to see him going to be like, I want to see him gone.

But he shows this video camera the award.

They talked to him and said, oh, I co wrote this song.

Now, this is the first kind of inklings that Drake had a writer.

Right, And Drake gets mad, Right, he is from Memphis, any tough and he really smart.

Revenge, he says, he goes to la he you know, he's at a party, right, and he just happens to bump into Drake at the party and Drake is mad dogging him at the party, like he's walking he like, I noticed a dude he was like, and he's mad dogging me.

And so his buddies come down, they set it up.

They talk and Drake just gets like, oh, you know, you tell everybody you wrote my song.

He was like, hold up, bro, and he was just I guess he was at another level like when he was kind of in his emotions about you know, people feeling like kis Sean wrote his song.

And kis Sean talks to him like, hey, Homy, like, look I see you got all these people with you, and I got my people, but you got all these people with you.

If something happens to me, remember your family is from Memphis.

You know you may not be but your dad and he's like, Yo, whatever happened here, you might get a win here, but I'm gonna get my wins there.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he said that, right, And.

Speaker 4

I say that for that one reason.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 1

That was the point I've been saying that if that was Memphis, they would have connected, they would have had that conversation boom right, Okay, that would have been nothing to set up that conversation like this that like somebody in watch that ain't gonna be no streaming on no internet.

That's gonna be two phone calls at best, If not one phone call, it's gonna be two phone calls, and me and that person gonna be face to face.

Right, We ain't got a popul liud way I do that, and you're not gonna talk to me like you don't know me.

But that's further proof that I'm saying he didn't grow up there because that could have been solved way simpler.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 1

Part two, Drake had to have had writers at the beginning of his career, right, And that's not to say somebody was m seeing for him.

So in the record business, shout out to everybody at the lunch table.

I know I'm going through some shit.

Just let me work it out for y'all.

In a record business, when somebody says somebody wrote a record they're talking about they have, They picked the music, and then they put the beat with it.

Speaker 4

That's what when somebody say.

Speaker 2

Basically helped them construct the record, basically, not word for word and anything like that though.

Speaker 1

But again, a record to the record business is a hook in the beat.

Speaker 4

It's like when you right.

Speaker 3

So that's that's writer credits just for that.

Speaker 1

Somebody say you wrote the record completely, Wow, that's the record itself, lydio No, And I always tell trap that that part of the song is not the most impart of the song.

Speaker 4

When people you pick the beat.

Speaker 1

So when you hear people say fifty wrote games record, they're not saying fifty wrote the lyrics, wrote games rat lyrics.

They're saying he picked the music and he wrote the chorus.

Okay, right, so that actually makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3

Yeah, like I said, yeah.

Speaker 2

It no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3

Now when I hear somebody say fifty wrote that song, now I could be like, okay, they meant that they closed and everything.

Speaker 2

You basically you're basically saying that's because that's the most important part of the song would be the hook.

Speaker 1

And the record business is the most important part of song.

Not in the hip hop but in the record business.

When somebody say you wrote a record, they're referencing your ability to make or pick the and put the chorus on the beat.

Speaker 4

So they'll say you wrote the record.

Speaker 1

So right, which is I was saying this about Drake having writers early again, people are gonna think that I'm referencing him having MC's or somebody he couldn't MC.

That's not what I'm saying.

That what they took from that kid Shine song and may and to best I ever had, that's not nobody first time writing a record.

M that is done really well.

That's somebody who understands records.

Now, that's not to say Drake don't understand records at this point in his career, he's a fucking monster.

Speaker 4

Of course he gets it.

Speaker 1

But that specific record at that time, somebody, that's somebody coming up with that idea.

And it made me realize, Yeah, that's somebody who've been writing records.

Speaker 2

Because you know, what would be the difference between that and saying somebody produced the record?

Speaker 1

Though the hook the hook okay, hook right, hook changes it.

Speaker 5

But if you say somebody could just put money into a project and said they produced it, right, do nothing.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, that's what happens.

Speaker 3

That's the difference.

Trap.

That's why he created.

Speaker 1

With Bobby Brown's first album, Geene Griffin, it was the money Bobby Brown.

Speaker 2

But what I mean what I mean when I'm asking because like like you know, how like when they say, like you got beat makers and you got producers, so the producer be the person that comes in there and basically, yeah, they did the beat, but they're also telling you how you how you approached the beat also too, you know what I'm saying like that, like you should.

Speaker 3

Somebody makes it.

Speaker 1

Somebody makes a beat, a producer produces a record.

Yeah, so a beat maker is somebody who makes a beat.

Speaker 4

A producer is somebody who produces a record.

Speaker 1

So that's a completely finishing thing that's from here to here to the finish line.

A beat maker stops, you know, fifty percent of the way through.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 4

So, But I was saying like he had.

Speaker 1

I didn't think about it like that because when I her best I ever had, I was like, damn, like this is really good, Like you could just hear it, like now this is dope.

But now listening back to it and hearing it.

Whoever was involved with that, they was an animal because they understood.

Speaker 3

Even at that time the song.

Speaker 1

Was called do It for the Boy.

Yeah, which is weird because Drake ended up taking that as his mind.

Yeah, I mean, it's just weird, but he understood how everything was in a business, you know what I mean, Look shout out to CALLI to God.

Glass is always trying to say Drake makes good music when he's been cast stilling so many times song lyrics he had to pay Rapper for ten hundred thousand for still in his lyrics.

Look, you are taking what I'm saying out of context.

Drake is one of the best record makers in the business.

That don't mean he actually had to write none of the shit down.

It don't mean he had to pick nothing.

That means his execution of what it sounds like when it goes to radio is fantastic.

A lot of the best record makers in the business will tell you not trying unless you steal it.

And that's the thing, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's the tricky part, you know what I mean?

A lot of things that you might reward artists for, a lot of things that you might reward artists for, you don't really want to know what your favorite artist was doing.

You don't really want to know, like if you really knew how this shit worked, you look at a lot of people crazy.

Speaker 3

I'm not lying, dog, it's crazy.

Speaker 1

So I'm not saying even the fort tape thing like that's a publishing thing, like to know to even take that and then put that into that song is different, But the best I've had has to turn that into that record from that mixtape song Blue Magic.

No I want to know, No, you don't.

You don't want to know what Michael Jackson did to make thriller.

You don't really want to know.

Dog, I promise you you don't want to go to know.

You don't want to know what Michael Jackson got them dance moves.

You don't fucking want to know, cause y'all are not prepared to take that type of shit.

Speaker 3

You have to see people as these completely.

Speaker 1

Like It's like even now when we explain in marketing, like when I'm explaining the Coach marketing, it's like it's like you're telling somebody Santa Claus is fake?

Speaker 3

Are you telling them.

Speaker 1

The Two Fairy ain't real?

You get what I'm saying.

It's like, you don't want to know, so just enjoy the records.

So the point I'm saying is when he takes that shit and they make that into Best I Ever Had, which I could tell I think forty probably did.

Speaker 2

The music.

Speaker 3

The music was inspired by Best I Ever Had?

Speaker 1

I mean, excuse me, do it for the boy Little Wayne sung, and then the words were actually used on the song and they switched it.

Which at that time, if you was coming through Wayne, like I wish I would have thought about that, Like, you're coming through Wayne, so your first audience is gonna be Wayne's audience, right, and then you put out a song that's so familiar to Wayne's audience that's just a more of a more of a like an extension of what this song that you already liked was.

Speaker 2

So cash Money basically doubled up on that song.

He used it twice.

Speaker 1

Yes, Well, remember one of them is on mixtape Wayne Shit, it's on mixed.

It's on Mac Wayne's mixtape.

But imagine like if I signed a deal with mac tin, right, and then people discovered me through mac ten right, and then.

Speaker 4

I flipped for life.

Speaker 3

M hm, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

I flipped for life.

Speaker 2

But that's what I'm saying though.

So, so kis Seine brought the record and Wayne used it, and then Drake doubled back and used it again.

You're saying basically, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1

So what they did was they took inspiration from I could tell how the record was made.

I don't I know for sure, because I know how people make records at.

Speaker 2

This said, they came through.

You said, you say to come through too.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm saying, but minus the kis Seane song.

I'm saying to take the idea right, because even the music is a it's an interpolation and an approved version of what the Kids Shine song.

Speaker 2

The beat was, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and then they took the words right of the kids Shine song and made it the hook of best I ever had, you know what I mean, the best I ever had, and then they made that into that.

And then even the flow pattern of like if you listen to the little Wayne song do It for the Boy, and then you listen, it's the exact flow pattern.

But imagine that's your audience of people you're servicing a record too, right.

It's like the first Buyio record when you drake or you glasses alone.

At that time, it's people that's fans of young Money and cash money.

And if this is one of Wayne's songs that's doing well on a mixtape circuit, you have an automatic audience that hears that song like, oh shit, even if you don't know, Like when I heard Gin and Juice, I did not know that was slave song.

You know, I didn't think of walking down the street watching ladies go by, watching you like rolling down the street, smoking in though sipping on gin and juice.

You don't calculate those things instant's you know what I mean.

Unless you're into the business, you don't think of that shit.

So for him to know that, that's why I knew somebody was there, That's not something you figure out.

Even people who want to be dope mcs like him.

He's an MC.

He wanted to be dope, so he start MCing.

Right, you don't think of how to write a record.

That's somebody's complete other ship.

That's their profession, you know what I'm saying, that's their profession.

Speaker 2

So when we were discussing this yesterday, all right, so you you you were saying, we both both basically came to the agreement, saying like that they approached within within way.

The way they were delivering Drake to the audience was was basically hip hop.

So it was like basically it was approaching as if he was a pop artist and behind the scenes stuff.

Speaker 1

Not even no level of hip hop.

It was always from the first day like a pop artist.

It was all he was always a pop artist, even before I knew what it was.

I could feel what it was like I didn't know because I couldn't articulate.

I didn't know enough about the business, but I could see, like that's different.

But even like thinking of those songs like successful, thinking of those songs best I ever had, thinking of those ideas, Bro, they were like well written, and they weren't well written for somebody that's an MC or a rapper.

They were well written for somebody that's been in the record business for ten years.

So again it's like you don't think about that, even Snoop, Like when when they did Jen and Juice, that's not Snoop's idea to put that on that hook, Like that's somebody who had been in the business.

Speaker 3

That's Dre and Doc.

Speaker 1

I have to ask one of them, But that's one of those guys who've been in the business long enough to understand record writing.

Speaker 2

Yeah, right that though, Yeah, they credit of for remember you.

No, that's why Sean went right to Universal.

Not something about the doctor trade joint though?

Did they credit him?

Did they credit them for that?

Speaker 3

I don know?

Speaker 2

Yeah, they can't got that ship later mm hmm, that's me right there.

Speaker 1

He didn't Sam shout out to Peter Sean could have said sample, but they didn't sample it.

That that is a proper word to you.

That's not a sample.

Like, that's not a sample, you know what I mean?

Like they didn't sample kiss Shine's version of that song.

In Drake's song, his music, the music he produced is interpolated making the beat.

The flow that he used that he wrote is the flow that they used to make best I ever had.

And there's actual words that kis Seine says that's not even changed at all.

It'll be a word for word version of it.

That is, he co wrote a song the and it's not even anation.

It's further, it's not even a rendition.

It's actually he co wrote the song.

You get what I'm saying That a sample is when I take a master or something and then I use that master or the music itself, the actual recording and put that into my music.

And interpolation is when I take give you a take on it.

It's a co write because you're using the words I'm saying, the flow that I'm using, and you're interpolating my idea of production wise to make a song.

So again it's it's it's he did use the correct term.

It was word for words.

It's he used a correct term.

It's true, and I do and I do get you because he could have gave you a bunch of oh you know what, well he used words that I wrote for blah blah blah, and then they interpretated my idea and they use his flow.

But no, the proper terminology in the business is CO wrote the song.

It's not something unique, uh, Marie is not.

It's not something unique, bro, It's just it's nothing wrong with that.

Like again, like we can go back to the beginning of hip hop.

It's not nothing crazy.

It's just the fact that to be that far along, it's like when you first heard Nelly, like really great songwriting, is him to flip that nursery rhyme and make country grammar.

So no, it's not it's not about you know, is it?

Is it unnormal?

Is?

Speaker 3

I'm telling you that's high level.

It's high level.

Speaker 1

And whoever was thinking they was thinking, they was thinking like Wayne, Wayne knew it, Wayne knew what it was.

Wayne heard it.

It was like, okay, yeah, this is a dope.

So they delivered it right to a young money audius that was familiar with the feeling and the words of the song.

Speaker 4

I agree with you.

Speaker 2

Agree with that.

Speaker 1

I think I always said Forty is like he does in rap music what Max Martin does in pop music.

Speaker 4

He's doing it with rap.

Speaker 2

Now, no Max Martin's no.

No, Forty's good, but not no Max Martin.

Speaker 1

You're not saying he's Max Martin.

I'm saying what I'm just saying.

Speaker 2

You're saying, like everything he touches, everything he touches, he makes records, everything he touches.

Speaker 3

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying Max.

Speaker 1

That's the same thing with funk, right where like if you listen to the Britney Spears Backstreet Boys, he kind of makes this pop version of funk.

They would never call Britney Spears Oops, I did it again or everybody funk songs, but their interpolation on funk ideas, and there'll be a popular melody that he just recooked and he reinterpolated, they do the same thing.

I was just saying, Damn, this is crazy.

Like his approach from the first day was so far out there.

That's why I knew he had people around him that knew what they were doing and it is, it's probably forty.

It is some and it is some writers like they was cold, they was cold as hell.

Speaker 2

Well, what I'm saying I was gonna, Yeah, I don't take nothing like as far as I'm doing doing things like that, as far as a right to get a record brought to you.

All right, this is the layout, is the structure the record.

It's the way it should go, you know what I'm saying.

And then he goes about it and puts them verses down, puts his sixteenes down and shit like that.

I'm fine with that right there.

You know what I'm saying.

I think many people should do that right there.

You know I'm saying that.

I don't have no problem with that.

But it's when you get the whole, the whole painting, frame and everything brought to you, when you presenting the shit as if you you know what I'm saying, painting and frame that and then everything like that.

I don't got no problem with somebody bringing them a hook the beat and he put his sixteen to it.

But then you start thinking, did he really put his sixteen to it?

Though?

Speaker 1

Yeah, And the truth is from the beginning of his career, I can't say this because I didn't watch it, so again, it's not something I can say as a fact.

But knowing the business how I understand it now, I could pretty much trace things back really easy.

There was always a team of record making people around him, and I didn't know that, Like I didn't know that kids Sean's chose co write instead of sample because he co wrote it.

He didn't sample that song.

That's not what a sample is.

So you gotta kind of remove your emotions of what you believe it is versus what it actually is.

Speaker 3

But like the.

Speaker 1

People around him dog at that time, for him to have that type of team, it's funny because it goes back to that same thing where I was explaining to somebody like they was asking me they felt like a bashed Drake.

People used to think that, and I'm like, nah, bro, like they people would think I'm jealous.

I'm like, bro, no, Like that shit is a like if you see it, okay.

It makes me have a different respect for how they approach the business, right Nicki Mina's Drake.

They approached the business.

They knew so much about the business.

Drake knew a ship ton like when his team, his team was an animal.

It makes me have a different respect for somebody like Dot, like Hendrick, you know what I mean, Like there was certain things that I watched Dot learn in the business, Like Dot just to me just hit his record making pinnacle, now, you know what I mean.

Like the records on GNX Dog is like bar none, some of the best records I heard in the long Oh.

Speaker 2

My god, Oh my god.

Speaker 4

I mean trap.

Speaker 1

You can't have four or five top ten songs on one album.

Speaker 2

Ken, if you the highest artist that's in the game right now, nobody.

Speaker 1

Have still top ten songs Trapped, especially on one project.

Speaker 2

You think this is the best music that he put out that he ever put out.

Speaker 1

Music is art that's different.

These are by far the best records he's ever put out.

I'm not lying to you, bro, Like this ship is crazy.

Like I'm telling like, this is what I do, Brom.

I'm up here listening to Marvin Gate on the way here, I'm listening to War, I'm listening to motherfucking uh.

Speaker 3

Uh a Queen.

Speaker 1

That's what I'm living.

I'm jamming all this ship that got records.

This motherfucker right here when it comes to records, is some of the best records I ever heard, bro, I swore to God, I'm like, damn, this is really good.

I find myself going back listening like it's a dog or the chronic, Like it's that many great records.

Speaker 2

So you think you think he got the got the album of the yeah wrapped up at least for hip hop.

Speaker 4

Oh no, I don't know.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 1

I don't think nothing is close, No, not quite, not not jed album gives.

Speaker 3

Listening to this ship.

Speaker 1

But I'm saying it's hard to it's hard to make that comparison when you got somebody like that.

Speaker 4

Shit is good, bro.

Speaker 1

Like his ability to tell stories without making it dialogue heavy has grown so much, bro that it's scary.

It's like it's gotten scary, bro.

Like he told the whole story of this record without using those without using dialogue, without using narratives like oh you know, like he set it up all the time with skits.

This shit is simple, and to get right to it, it's like really really really really really good.

It's like really really really good.

Like trust me as somebody who really study who's been studying records now for thirteen fourteen years and really have enough time and endless resources to go ask questions.

This is bad, this is really good.

Speaker 2

You know, you know what is around the corner, and I can already see it because you're basically going there, and I'm gonna give it probably another two weeks for need to be Corner's the greatest album ever made right here.

That's that's what that's what.

Speaker 3

Think's, Coach, I can see if possibly happen.

Speaker 2

Yeah, me too, me too.

Speaker 4

That's not Listen, that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2

Because you know, Coach, you know why And I already told him this.

You know why.

You know you exactly produced the album, right, executive produce an album?

Speaker 3

Right, No, that's not it's not Listen.

Speaker 1

There's certain things that I'm going to say, and then there's certain things I'm not going to say.

That's just you just out of control.

Well you might put it top five for all time.

It's certain things you said is just out of control.

Speaker 2

Like chill.

Speaker 4

It's not that I'm just telling I'm just giving credit to a great record.

Speaker 3

You just going far.

Speaker 1

I know you, but I'm not gonna say that.

I'm telling you there is no reason to say that at this point, Like it will take a lot of ship to say that type of ship.

Mm hm, take a lot.

You can't just make this record like for me to get to the point where I thought, uh uh not like us was the greatest.

It took a lot to get to there.

Speaker 3

You said that pretty fast.

No, no, it took me.

Speaker 1

It took me almost seven months months.

Greatest pop record, it was the greatest month.

Speaker 4

Four months.

Speaker 3

Nine months is not fast.

On that greatest hip hop record?

Speaker 4

I didn't say it was.

I'm saying, could it be.

Speaker 3

So?

I thinking about another year, you might say, could g n X be the greatest hip hop?

Speaker 1

What's gonna have to happen to make?

What's gonna have to happen for it to be that?

Like you go to the go to the Grammy Doggie style, they gotta do a lot.

Speaker 3

What about tough?

Speaker 2

Would you?

Speaker 3

Would you get to that point?

No?

Thriller?

God damn.

Speaker 2

I'm saying music as three music hist three.

Speaker 3

No, not not think about it thinking about it right now?

Speaker 2

Better Is it better than making last foraver?

Speaker 3

No?

Speaker 1

No, make it last forever is different.

That's a generational asking ship like that.

Speaker 3

Messling for everything?

No, no, no, no, Because my you know what I I like more than Mega Last Forever?

Speaker 4

Jamie Fox.

Speaker 1

Predicted unpredictable.

I like it more even though Mega Last Fever is a greater album, and this.

Speaker 3

Nigga said, that's come on, I love that.

That's a hot You ever heard him say this?

Speaker 2

To let me ask you this coach.

He says that he sweat make your last forever.

It's better than Michael Jackson Bad.

Speaker 3

What do you think of that?

Speaker 1

Bad?

Speaker 3

Or Mark Bad?

Speaker 2

Bad?

Speaker 3

Better than Bad?

Speaker 2

Better?

Speaker 3

So Trapped?

I don't know.

I don't know if you remember we kind of talked about this some months ago.

I hate to say it, bro, I go with g on this.

I'm not a big I think Thriller is a great album, and I think Bad is a good album also, But I don't I think there's better bodies of work than those albums Thriller.

Speaker 4

There's certain shit you just can't play with Thriller, Dark Side of.

Speaker 2

The Banns Fire though, like bans Ban, that is not Bad Trapping.

Probably like two songs on It Ain't they ain't.

Speaker 3

Go Yeah more than that, Cornball man, you know what?

Speaker 5

You know what?

Speaker 3

I think he got wrong.

Speaker 1

I think where Mike went wrong with Bad is and it's hard to say for Glass to say Mike went Bad, Bad went Bad because it didn't take Cameo into account.

Speaker 2

Like on Thriller.

Speaker 1

You can hear him taking Rick James into account.

You can hear him taking Hall of Notes into account.

Like it was a level of soul that existed in Thriller that doesn't exist in Bad.

Bad is just hella pop.

It's just hella pop.

Like you went from Rick James inspiring Thriller, which is possibly your greatest song, even though I don't think it should be.

But if there's one Michael Jackson to everybody know, it's probably Thrilled.

Well, nobody really know Thriller.

Speaker 3

It's the song.

Speaker 1

It's the song that's the flagship of Michael Jackson, and that's really James.

That's given to me baby, and then that changed to Ray Parker.

You know, it's just a level of like nigganess missing that makes sense, like niggadness missing.

Like, and I think he avoided Cameo.

Cameo was like the crown jewel of Black America at that point as far as like what we was into, as far as the ship.

Speaker 4

Thriller is definitely Rick James.

Speaker 3

I think Thriller is probably his greatest album of all.

Of course, yeah, probably one of the five Michael Jackson album is off.

Speaker 2

Listen better and Greatest is different, Yeah, exactly, Like the number goes by the numbers though.

Speaker 1

Right, Greatest is quantifiable things, not just numbers, but it's quantifiable.

Thriller is way more than just numbers.

Thriller a bad motherfucking album.

Speaker 3

It was like a cult.

Speaker 4

That ship is different.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but yeah, it's like people talk like I just saw somebody say that, like Michael Jackson, Like Thriller is not Rick James.

Speaker 3

It's given to me.

Speaker 1

That's the whole idea of the song, Like it's just give it to me.

You just don't see it that way.

You just don't get it.

Speaker 2

I agree.

Speaker 1

I've been saying for years I thought Thriller, the song is probably the greatest worst song ever.

Speaker 3

I'm glad, Jeez bringing up that that Rick James inspiration too from Thriller, because I don't think Rick James get enough credit for a lot of shit.

Rig James is really a pioneer out here, man.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but I was saying that back to the point, like I was saying with Drake, it's like it's weird to see that on your very first album.

That is like high level ten year down the line songwriting, and you don't become a great songwriter and a great MC at the same time.

Speaker 3

He was.

Speaker 4

You could tell where he was really working on being a grad m C on his earlier music.

So but it's it's it's odd.

Speaker 1

Like so even now looking back, I really like, God damn these niggas was flipping songs and shit like he was taking this.

So I wouldn't even listen to the Wayne music at that time, Like my favorite Wayne project when I first signed to them was like father like Son or Quarter one.

Speaker 4

I wouldn't fucking with none of that other shit like that.

Speaker 1

So to listen to best I ever had, and then go back to listen to give it to the you know, the kids Shine song that he did for Tune, it was like, oh damn, this was like really really smart.

That was like really really smart, Like, oh yeah, we're feeding it to this underground group of people, right, we feed it to this underground group of people that's going to already identify with these things, even if they don't know what they're listening.

Speaker 3

Genius.

Speaker 1

It's fucking brilliant.

And that's like how you do pop artists.

You get what I'm saying, that's how you do pop artists.

That's a pop approach on what they do.

That's a pop approach.

Speaker 2

Bro.

Speaker 4

I swear to God, like.

Speaker 1

If you listening to the pop artists first song, that shit be like like a true pop artist like you be like, damn, it's almost impossible not to fuck with it based off you know, excuse me, Like they'll know which based they're delivering the music to, like which base of people.

Speaker 3

You get what I'm saying, it's almost Elvis yeah, like you couldn't miss.

Yeah, it's almost like Likes like.

Speaker 1

You couldn't miss you know what I mean.

So I really when people really asked me, was I jealous?

Speaker 3

I'm like hell no, Bro, Like his.

Speaker 1

Whole ship was like great, it was like great, get that coach.

Like Nikki shit was like that too.

Nikki was like she had like the management even when she like they knew what to do, like they had to write people to even put him next to Tune Bro, to put him next to Wayne and then deliver best I've ever had with a budget is insane.

Speaker 4

Knowing that it came from.

Speaker 1

Uh uh that's here for what This name of the song the kids from the white song, say for the boy grew.

Speaker 4

For the boy I got brilliant.

That's brilliant.

Speaker 3

Something else called my attention.

Speaker 1

Like I've been saying for years where people say black culture is toxic, and it goes back to this thing I've been telling King for years, like black culture is a very niche thing, Like it's very broad, Like I would never say something is white culture.

I'm saying culture is a niche thing.

To say black culture is very broad if I didn't okay, So I'm like, I've been saying the same thing, Ray, like what is black culture?

Like, what's something that we could uniquely say because they say black culture is toxic?

Like I saw, uh that man that got killed say that Charlie Kirk.

He was saying that black culture was toxic.

Then I see black people that follow Charlie saying black culture is toxic in black and I'm like, what is in black culture that that is that?

Speaker 3

It's I'm glad.

Speaker 1

So shout out to Jews before we jump on that.

He explained why Drake is not writing good records.

That's a good point, Jews.

It's not he's not writing good records.

The base of people that listen to Drake right that that kind of stamped him and made him what he is is hip hop people people that digest hip hop, right, And it's like, at first it wasn't like that.

It was like just people, but then he kind of rooted it into people like me and different people's ideology.

And as the battle happened, right as the battle happened, his cultural cachet was stripped.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 1

So now you're listening Jews to everything he's saying that you would let go before you're not.

Drake is for sure off the same assembly line.

Speaker 3

She's saying his stuff right now it's not good music.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's what they feel like.

Okay, it's not that it's not good music.

It's actually the same stuff Drake was making on the assembly line before.

Speaker 2

It's just you.

Speaker 4

You the public feel different about it.

Speaker 3

We have too much information about Drake.

I think too much truth and too much we see too much of how the shit got done and what's being made, and too many questions now about Drake.

But that's what I was going about with Young thug Man.

I think that Internet is fucking up a lot of good artists because there's to be some mistique with some of these artists, and we didn't know a lot, Like we didn't know everything about Tupac.

When we started finding out more shit about Tupac, people start changing their minds on some shit about Tupac.

But now we just know too much about these artists.

We know too much about Drake.

Now we're dissecting everything he says, like debate now.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And for me it was always like that, you know what I mean, Like I could recognize how great he was, but I don't listen to it.

Speaker 3

Future is the same way I recognize how great Future is, listen to it.

Speaker 1

It's a lot of great artists that I'm really don't get into the depth of what they're doing, but I can hear real easy that they know what the fuck they're doing, and it's incredibly well.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 4

But even now watching y'all argue about some of this stuff.

Speaker 1

Again, like I said, this was the same stuff I used to sit tell dotting people before that I was like, oh, I see what's wrong.

Speaker 3

I see what's happening, you know what I mean?

And now so like the same shit coming off this.

Speaker 1

It's like McDonald's was great when you was like a little kid, but then as you grow up, you start to learn more about McDonald's and then, like most kids in LA, you know, in California, you start to change the in and out.

Speaker 4

You're like, Man, I'm gonna do the double double, you know.

Speaker 1

What I mean?

Like you just McDonald's didn't do anything different, you know what I mean.

You just kind of was over it, And I think that's what happened.

People are just over it culturally.

Speaker 3

You know what I mean.

Speaker 4

Over it.

Speaker 1

It's time.

Speaker 3

But like you, like you were saying, and I was saying, when you get older, you start knowing too much about McDonald's too.

You start looking at She's got that, You start looking at the workers different.

Now you're still looking at these documentaries and ship and you're like, but you.

Speaker 2

Still go back and get the fries though, that's no matter.

Speaker 1

That's what I'm saying, Draco, be fine, bro, But you just can't get mad that you're not the bell of the ball anymore.

It's not to say you're not gonna sell your records.

You're not finished string your joints, nigga.

You have a huge audience base that's tapped into you, and you make great records.

Speaker 3

They are all on this assembly line.

Speaker 1

So you're gonna be fine, but it's almost like he think he's fighting to get back into the place.

Speaker 3

Do you think Drake's fans are aging out now or do you think they're just ag Yeah?

Like do you think he's kind of confused on how to reach the youth now?

Speaker 1

And that's that's what But that's what happens to pop artists all the time, like Madonna, Britney Spears.

You just kind of you stop hitting them Mark, I mean, and normally you just it just happens naturally.

But this one, because he was playing so much in hip hop business, hip hop kind of just slapped him down, like in front of all the next generation of kids and they like, oh, he's not cool.

Speaker 3

Okay, because I was.

I was really confused on this rollout, But now it's starting to kind of shed some light on the Rollouttle confused on how to he like the Mark again?

Speaker 1

Yeah, Like, how do I get to the next generation of kids when this person made me not look cool?

Speaker 3

Yeah, he's trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1

And so it's like instead of like which not, Like I'll be honest, I wouldn't have the right idea for him, Like I'll be telling him for sure, like yo, drop the lawsuit, just apologize es.

Speaker 4

Like I'm tripping.

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

I'm wrong.

Speaker 1

I should have never did that.

If I wanted to compete, I shouldn't have did that.

Fear me, I'm fain to get back to what I do.

That's how I would build it, and I would build it at like a primitive level of like at like I go back and be kissing babies and shaking hands and all of that, Like I'll break it down to the very as compound.

Speaker 4

I wouldn't go the way he's going.

Speaker 3

I remember when damage control should be a thing.

I wonder if people think that that the opposite of damage control is do nothing like or lean more into what got you in trouble and shit or what fucked you up, because it almost like Drake is leaning more into Oh I'm a whiner and all that time shit.

Let me lean into this ship.

Now let me what you always did, like he's going, and even like you said, it's almost like he said this hip hop shit was cool when I when they would let me tip tip my toe in it, diet my toe in there.

But now that they didn't slap me down, now I'm gonna go, I've never seen Drake act this white in my life.

Speaker 2

You know what's funny.

Speaker 1

I always thought he did the whole time this white, Like when he was on that call with Aiden ro first, it wasn't like what the throw and that's what I've been saying, But I always heard it like that when he there was this footage a cousining in a studio, King and a coach, and that motherfucker was like, I'll never forget it.

He was like, yeah, I want the snareves over here because and I was like, okay, look that was Drake.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Then I saw that other video where he was like people in the hood, Yes, it's not soft.

He sounds straight up, like straight up and down like he was like, yo, he was doing an interview with this news broadcaster lady, and the lady he was like, that's why I feel like people in the hood could feel my music.

And I was like, I never heard a brother say no shit like that black man say like people.

Speaker 3

In the hood could feel my music.

Speaker 1

Like why would you need to explain to somebody why people in the hood.

And maybe I'm tripping, but it just felt me.

Speaker 3

When did you know your draking personation was just spot on.

Well that's how you really talk about I know, but did this situation help you, like, like, oh man, I can really do a draking person But when did I never heard like this draking personation be so spot on.

This is exactly.

Speaker 4

I ain't said it, no, because then it'll make this whole day the joke.

Speaker 2

I'm not jo here he is.

I think that he he he goes about it because I think even from the time when he was starting, it felt like he was a part of the situation.

You know what I'm saying.

He was a part of it.

Speaker 1

It's about this.

Speaker 4

I don't think it's about that man being a small hat rad.

Speaker 3

Choice.

There's the other people that were.

Speaker 1

It's not that bro, it's beastie boys like I've never saw.

I said, like, I don't know, it's more to it, man, we really have to pill We'll put it back on that.

I mean, when I'm talking to you, he's just I don't know, I don't know.

But it's nothing wrong with his music.

It's something wrong with y'all.

Y'all finally got to where I'm at.

Y'all finally got to where I be in and I've been saying, and I'm like, you could be dope, bro, but that ship ain't right, like you know what I mean, Like it ain't right.

Something ain't right, that ain't right, that ain't how to go.

Speaker 2

Enough season and on it man, exactly.

And they fully cooked you.

You know what I'm saying in the back of.

Speaker 1

The lis, like boiled chicken dipped in barbecue sauce.

Speaker 3

Sometimes you god damn you gotta go there barbecue sauce on this boiled chicken.

It's like he's like somebody teld somebody to take the napkin and white the barbecue sauce off, and I'm just gonna be boiled chicken.

He left that nigga.

Speaker 2

Nah, he's not fried chicken.

He's shaking baked.

Speaker 1

Trap that nigga ship.

That nigga shit.

He's like, yeah, I'm just saying, bro, because you sound sassy.

I'm like, how you let that man say that ship to you?

Speaker 3

The nigga said you sound sassy and then he proceeded to talk more sassy and.

Speaker 1

You said it publicly.

You knew he was on the stream.

And he said that you should have fire cut.

We need to meet up, blood guy, We need to meet up I'll squabble you down.

But what you say, that's what right, cribble blood right right right, right, something bro, Because it was just weird, like this man called you sassy, then you called him sassy back that I ain't a cool insault.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's it's first of all, it's never a good insult when you use the insult that just got used on you right back at him.

It's almost like sticks and stones kind of shit.

But he was like, you're sassy, Like I was like, yeah, he did say it, like you're sassy.

He said it's super sassy too, like your sassy.

Oh god, it came.

He said it like that.

Speaker 2

Go listen to this.

Listen.

Speaker 3

No, he's not lying, bro, like you're sassy.

Speaker 1

I dry.

Speaker 3

He's like seven times like listen to this.

That ship makes like what the fun?

Speaker 2

It's just it's just saying.

It's seemed real wild, Like it's total obvious how he's approaching his roll out right now.

You know what I'm saying, Like you just stated like the people that the media he's choosing us sit down with.

You know what I'm saying, Like this stuff, I don't know.

I can't call it.

Man.

It's like even even within like over saying now I want to be so arty and stuff like that, Like it's just it's just seem I don't know, maybe he'd be going maybe going back.

Maybe he's trying to really represent who he is then about doing the shit he's doing right now though.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but like I said, even that, like and then we're gonna move on, dog, It's like I think he really understands he's not hip problem.

And at this point it's like and he always knew he did.

It's more like, damn they figured it out.

So but I still got to create marketing ways for my business.

I still gotta do all of that.

So if I don't talk about this, are people going to listen to me?

Because even when I heard him say something before, you act like it wasn't consuming him, Like I don't watch forgive me bro shout out to everybody at the LUST table.

It's not on purpose.

It's not because I don't dislike dude or nothing.

I'm just saying I've never really been into him talking like nothing about him even now, Like if y'all hear me give him credit as a record maker, I still kind of wouldn't want.

Speaker 4

To only hear him talking about making records.

Speaker 1

Like if he did a little thing where he was talking about how they made records, I would listen to that or watch that interview every other thing.

I really wouldn't listen to it, dog, but I wouldn't watch that he was laid up with that white lady talking and like that.

That just doesn't seem interesting.

He's not that type of interview to me where I'm like, y'all want to listen to him talk even when I see him from it.

It's I've never saw a clip in all of these years that I felt like I need to go listen to this whole interview.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you never watched the rap never watched the rap interview he did with Ellie and I never watched Lebron James.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I saw a clip and it was like like him talking like he too black to talk like that.

Speaker 1

I know that sounds hello weird, but it's like like even like regular, like people keep saying because the man is Jewish, bro, Like, that is not how Seth Rogan talked.

Seth Rogan is Jewish.

That's not how Adam Sandler talked.

Adam Sandler is Jewish, that's not.

Speaker 2

But they're from they're from America.

It's from Canada.

Speaker 4

Seth Rogan is from Canada.

Speaker 2

Talk about it talking about about what's the name the dude?

No, it's talking about.

Speaker 3

Rogan does talk a little like that.

Speaker 4

No, he talks like that normally.

But he's cooler.

Speaker 3

He is much cooler.

Speaker 2

But Drake is.

Speaker 3

But Drake is a lame in any in any culture though, Like I think he's a lame Jewish dude.

I think he's just a lame Jewish dude, a lamee Canadian dude.

He's a lamee.

It's a lame brother.

Speaker 1

That's It's like when I saw the lebron clip, He's like, yeah, I know, I let you down.

Speaker 3

I was like a change.

It's definitely Jewish people.

And I don't know, I don't I don't know a ton of Jewish people, but I would imagine that because Jewish people are probably like like this, not it's not a good representation.

Speaker 1

He talks like he like I'm talking to my attorney, like to Bob Leberman, like, but we're talking about cool ship and Bob still sounds cooler.

Speaker 3

That's what I'm saying.

I think there's some Jewish people who probably like nah, that's not a good that's not how we act.

So I think he's probably just a lame jewsh dude.

Speaker 4

It's like, oh this is different anyway, fact to this.

Speaker 3

It's just I don't know.

Speaker 1

That's why I never really got to his interviews, even as successful and how much respect I got for him as a record maker.

It's just like I can't watch it.

But it's not just I guess revenge saying Drake is just not cool?

Why does it need explanation.

I'm not used to people being that successful and not cool, Like who is.

Speaker 2

The master that question?

I asked that question before I said that, before I said that ship, but before this batle even so, I said, Joe, can you name an artist what was on top of the hip hop game and like and didn't embody coolness, didn't like have didn't have the charisma and know what I'm saying, and come across that other people wanted to be like the person or saying like that.

And he had a lot of influence, you know what I'm saying, upon his whole staff.

It was never nobody that was like that other than Drake.

Speaker 1

League Park is the kind of guy you'll see one interview I'm like, I need to go to see that interview.

You know, that's how he interviews.

I interview like that if you see a clippy like I gotta go check this nigga out.

Speaker 3

I don't know why.

Like when I see it, it be just like.

Speaker 1

Huh, like like that's actually a great one of the biggest most popular people in the history of the music business.

Like right, Like I've watched Freddie Mercury interviews.

I've watched Brian Wilson from The Beach Boys, Rest and Peace interviews.

I've watched Stevie Wonder interviews.

It's just when I see it, it's just.

Speaker 3

I have seen some interviews or heard people talk and even met some individuals that I thought were gonna be much cooler than they were, but never this uncool.

Like this is just a whole another level of uncoolness that Drake is.

Speaker 1

I think, y'all right, I think that's what it is.

It's because maybe he's not cool at.

Speaker 3

All yet not at not a stitch, And.

Speaker 1

I've never saw nobody be this successful making rap songs and not be cool.

Speaker 4

That's oxy morons.

Speaker 3

Have you ever seen somebody who's uncool but makes but makes uncool being kind of cool, like Drake can't even do that, Like he can't even that's what nerds did.

I'm saying, like, if there's some.

Speaker 1

Guys who are like cool and like the movie Revenging the Nerds, yeahs, like dang, some.

Speaker 3

Of that were cool.

They did that.

That's funny because Adam Sandler, to me is a guy who kind of makes man coolest dude you are when I tell you.

Speaker 1

That dude so fucking coolist ship Man's one of my favorite That dude is cool, bro Like even watching movies, he's cool, maybe character super.

Speaker 3

Cool cool the water boy, Like how you making this dude cool?

And that's what I'm like, I don't get it.

Drake is more uncool than a water boy.

Speaker 1

It's crazy, yes, and he's supposed he's like it's like he should be transforming into steph.

Speaker 3

Fine Nigga chamber, Like the chamber broke on him, Like he was like, where the fuck the chamber?

The step calculations were wrong on the shame, Like he can't become step Fine.

Stuff is being Urkle and might have been more cool than him.

Yeah, yes, yes, Lord fell in love with Arkle at the end.

Speaker 1

I don't know why bro, like, it's so crazy I never saw and he makes rap some bro so like you have and you could tell for years he had access to the slang, he had access to the get down, and none of that ship even rubbed off on you.

Now, I think I think that's what makes some You have to grow up in it because the ship won't rub off of Like how all the ship you've been around, all these dirts, all these people you've been around, none of that rubbed off of you.

Speaker 2

I think I think that's what makes some.

I think that's what makes them so dope.

Though too at the same time, because it's like, no, no, no, listen, I'm saying because because he's he's super uncool when the mic is off.

When the mic comes on, he comes across as the coolest though.

Speaker 1

Also what I'm saying, but all of it is fake.

I'm sorry, but all of it is fake when the mic go off.

But I also said, not even a little bit.

Speaker 3

Of it is real.

Speaker 4

I'm sorry, No, no, no, I get you, Mike, come on that nigga, be like, Okay.

Speaker 3

That's.

Speaker 1

Black facing minstrel show like that might go off because it's not one part of it where it's like and that's the thing, like, not no part of it.

As soon as the mic go off, it's just like all go away.

Hey, But I do see what he's sawing.

This talk made me kind of understand why he's sawing them.

Imagine being Urkle.

Speaker 3

He's Urkle, and hip hop was lower and it never loved you back, like it never liked you ever you found out that, Lord, Like, what if Urkle at the end of the show find o Lord, just know, nigga're a nerd.

Get up out of here.

This nigga like he was a nerd, get up out of here.

Now he's mad.

Now, Like I got, I gotta say, Lauren God Like, yeah, I'm saying, imagine if it never happened.

Imagine if it never happened.

Speaker 4

G I get what he's saying.

Speaker 3

That King study he's saying at the end of it, but she did fall in love, so that's the way it went.

But but you're missing what you're not doing, fantasy.

I'm doing what.

I can't stop it.

You deal with facts.

Stop it.

What is happening?

Speaker 1

Okay, Look, so back to this black ship because I don't get it, and I don't use the term black American.

Speaker 4

That's just dumb.

Speaker 1

If you American, you're American.

I hate when people say black man.

I'm a black man in America.

That's why I call myself black.

I would never call myself black American, like that's a legal term, like when I'm another country.

I don't believe in that ship.

Like if you're American, you're American.

I watched too many of these dudes talking about they are proud black American.

Speaker 4

That just sounds crazy.

Speaker 3

You're not African American.

Speaker 1

No, I am black, Okay, Africa is the whole continent.

I wouldn't have any idea with none of my ancestors from I am a black man in America.

I use the term black because I don't know who the hell or where my people come from.

Speaker 3

I'm not with the whole.

Speaker 1

I'm just saying when somebody said that that's a Black American thing, there is no Black American thing ever.

Black people in America are different, Like That's why I keep saying hip hop is more of a street thing than just a black thing.

That's why so many black people.

No, I don't use the term FBA.

That's the homie term.

That's somebody I respect term.

But I don't use that, you know what I'm saying.

But the term, the term I'm a black man in America, I will never reverence myself as an America, a black American or that just feel weird, Like you can't just be knocking my people down and I think we still it's like we from the same thing.

Like I wouldn't be from the seven if they did some under my family though, I wouldn't be claiming a set and you hurting my people, you know what I mean.

But the point I'm saying is, what is there something about black and toxic that works together?

Like what exactly culturally do y'all think that we do?

Like what is of black culture?

Like it's so many people that did not Like there's tons of black people that never liked hip hop and I mean tons of black people.

Speaker 3

But okay, so when you look at black culture, it says like our music are our beliefs and like the way we believe in God, gospel music, and like they start naming some some stuff that's on there, and do do we reject that as being Black culture?

Speaker 4

What's that?

Speaker 3

Like gospel music like blues and hip hop?

And do we reject that as being.

Speaker 1

I get the concept as an art department, piece of culture, but I think it's very specific that everybody start to share, even like when people say our food is like that was really like slave food, Like that was.

Speaker 4

American slave food.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

But I don't understand specifically, what about black people in America's culture is toxic?

Speaker 3

I don't know.

I don't understand that, especially if you're gonna if you're gonna throw in music and believing belief in the way we believe in God and all the I don't understand what's tosic toxic about it?

Speaker 4

Like what do we all do that that well be like, man, you know what that just spoil black people.

Speaker 1

Like if you saying gang banger, that's not everybody that's this one percent of black people.

Speaker 4

There's not there's not like millions of gang bangers.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

I hate when people just say every black person is a gang banger.

Yeah, like everybody is not in this.

This is being a gang banger is a street thing.

But you know a lot of what they see a gang banger and they say, oh, that's that's every black person.

Speaker 4

That's what I'm saying.

But the thought of it is weird.

Speaker 3

That is.

Speaker 2

So what you think what you feel like is the it's something within black culture that gets misrepresentative.

Speaker 1

Though I don't know because I've been telling you for years, you and King and Coach.

I'm like, what is black culture?

Because people used to have a lot of negative shit to say about blues, but blues wasn't for everybody.

Speaker 3

I don't feel like, even even if we go by what people generally say is black culture, I don't feel like a lot of it is negative.

But I think that it's the perception of what some of these people think black culture is.

Speaker 4

Like, give me some ideas.

Speaker 3

I think that this gonna sound crazy, but I think that people look at smoking crack as a black culture.

Some of these white people, I think they like, oh, smoking crack is a black things because you white drug is looked at as cocaine.

I think they think crack, smoking crack is a black thing, like, oh, they smoke crackheads black, Like.

I don't think they think there's ever been a white crackhead, Like I just think white people smoke methly did myth.

It's funny because I kind of think that, yeah, but now I see, like, no, man, that shit is crazy.

Everybody do whatever.

Speaker 1

But that's why I said Ray.

Ray said he's black, but he doesn't eat soul food.

Soul fold is an American slave culture either Ray American America is a soul food is an American slave culture thing, Like you know what I mean, that's closer to what it is versus black because there was black people that did not eat soul food.

Every black person in America was not a slave.

Speaker 3

I'm not a slave.

Speaker 2

But that's just like it's just like when you I guess, if a black person makes the food, they down side of call it soul ful.

A white person makes the fool and they down so they call it southern fool, you know what I'm saying.

So just you can't really go with them that.

But I think it was something about coach when you say, don't eat soul ful though Southern fool.

Speaker 1

But I think the confusion blue magic because when you say black Americans created, I don't think that means everything that Black Americans created is a reference of black culture, Like that could be very specific to certain places, like Crippin is not black culture, Like that's not what most people do that's black.

That's not even a mass thing.

That's happening where all black people are at.

So again, I think just because we create organizations or something, I don't think it means every black person has entitlement to it.

I don't think that's how culture works.

So you know what I mean, Like, I think that'll be what they're talking about.

Because even when they said, like I said, a lot of brothers, I gotta get Ali on here.

Ali gonna be he gonna pitch y'all off.

But I gotta get Ali to because Ali can explain to me what he thinks it is.

Ali from the same lunatics.

Because I don't get what is black culture outside of the stuff we do with our hair.

Speaker 3

But I think what we think of it is black culture to us.

We don't ever think that well, most black people don't ever look at it as being the next gative thing.

I think that people outside black people, they kind of look at it.

They take anything somebody.

Speaker 4

That's what it was, right there?

Speaker 1

See somebody said that, right, But how is gang banging a large part?

So is celebrating murder music?

That's what I'm saying, Like, how is gang banging a large part of black culture?

That's That's what I don't get like, but they're here one bad song and it'd be like, that's how all black songs sound.

But I'm saying, how is gang banging a part of black culture?

Speaker 3

Because I think people look at it in the negative connotation, and they want to look at black people negatively.

So if they say they think black that they oh, black people gang bang, and we don't.

We think it's bad.

So that's what all black people do.

Speaker 1

The first gangs in Los Angeles is street gangs in Los Angeles.

I always tell y'all this is Mexican gangs based in East LA.

There's Asian gangs in long Beats.

There are all kind of gangs.

Like before black people have street organizations, White people have street gangs.

Speaker 3

They call them clubs.

Now white gangs.

That up a little bit.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1

I don't get how gang bang is a large part of black culture.

Like most black people are not gang bankers pretty much, ninety nine percent of Black people are not gang bankers.

Speaker 4

So how could that be a part of black culture?

Speaker 3

But they think drive bys are up Black culture.

They think that's our shit.

Speaker 1

But even though the white men in Chicago started that, Yes, So that's what I'm saying like this is why people are biggots and because they're just it's biggests.

Yeah, because it can't be that they think black people created drive bys, like there's a one million movies that show you white men in the twenties and thirties doing drive bys.

Like I forget if you thought the first gang street gags in LA was black people, because you don't know, ask your question, like.

Speaker 5

You couldn't even for carse, how many young people are you think is going back looking at old stuff?

How far back you think young people look at TV?

Speaker 2

Shit?

Speaker 3

I know I didn't look back that I didn't look back.

Speaker 5

So you're asking them like seeing dry bids that we've seen, you know, years and years ago on TV, when these young people can't get past the internet to look at anything old.

Speaker 1

Like I saw I saw a dude tell me, a dude that I that I mess with, tell me he was trying to explain to me that black people, the racism that's just worried about that is holding.

Speaker 4

Black people back.

Speaker 1

I hear a lot of people say that, and I just don't get that whole thing, Like what do people think that black people do innately?

Like just because you're black, Like how could something that probably that less than one percent of black people in America have ever been a part of the black culture.

Speaker 5

But when they say that kind of stuff like holding on the slavery and stuff like that, to me, I just tell them, so, you're okay with the people holding on to the Holocaust, You're okay with that, but now okay with us holding on the slavery.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

I'm trying to figure it out because I need to get somebody on here so they could explain to me.

Speaker 5

Because that's what I say to them, because they talk about the holocast so it never happens again.

Speaker 1

So you want them to explain to you, like what is black culture that they they that that that they feel like it's toxic to black people.

Speaker 3

The explanation that they give you, you're not gonna agree with.

Tell us, I don't know because there's no to that, Like yeah, that where we were just sitting here like, oh that makes sense, Yes we all are gang banger.

Speaker 1

Shout out to Baseline, thank you for the two dollars get to these superchats and super chats is open.

I meant to tell you, I'm sorry, superchat is cracking.

Baseline thank you for the two dollars, magic Canelos suing at the losing a fight?

Speaker 2

Why not.

Speaker 3

I lost?

Speaker 1

Suing you shut out to Natasha, thank you for the fifty check dollars glasses.

Please let's get Drake out of here.

He is a forty year old man embarrassing.

We are sick and tired of the library caring.

I like how you put that together in Tasha, those two go together.

Shut out to k Wait, thank you for the five dollars.

In response to coach, if you really feel how he raps, he needs to square up or shut up up.

Antagonizes six foot eight NBA players through the song.

Speaker 3

Of course, that's the facts.

What is he gonna do to de Mar de rozen when he really wanted to see that?

Speaker 2

Bro?

Speaker 1

I saw that video where he was mad dog and DeMar looked his way and he looked, but you look like the mark on TV, Bro, Like at least front for the TV, like look at him and throw up your do that dumb ass thing you been doing with your hands, like at least out of be like, oh, he's trying to press a line, Like when he look at you, you gotta just you know, whatever that shit you be doing You could have did that, but you mad dog and him and shit, and then he looked your way.

Speaker 3

You like, bro, you can't be a mark on TV too, don't.

Man.

Speaker 4

Shout out to Natasha, thank you for the fifty check dollars.

Speaker 1

My wishes that Kendrick pops back out again and just stops this Iceman project.

Every time I hear crazy and embarrasses Lawbrary caring Drake just completely.

Speaker 3

Oh man, y'all.

Speaker 2

Tough.

Speaker 3

Shout out to JJ Thomas, thank you for the ten dollars.

JJ.

Speaker 1

It's funny watching Drake fans analyzed lyrics when they kill Kendrick fans for years for doing the same.

Yep, they be trying to do that little roll out.

They be like trying to make it be deep.

I'm like this not really.

I don't even let dot fans do it to me Like I was like, man, shut.

Speaker 3

Up, you don't like that said trying to decide for up.

Speaker 2

This is a play.

Speaker 3

This is hey, homie.

I don't give a fuck what it is.

Is it great records.

Speaker 1

I don't give a fuck like y'all records.

I don't need nothing extra but great records.

Everything else is cool.

Speaker 5

He did his first he did tell somebody that aim down low.

You know that that happened on one song and the next song he said, he did.

Speaker 1

Smart man, I am the homie that told him how to shoot that drake.

Yeah, so hmm, point down and nothing.

Yeah, you never heard don't try to slip this up past.

I never heard of this one.

Speaker 3

I never heard that he tried to slip that one passing about yes, yes.

Speaker 1

Down it's on thugging.

Let the gun work on thugging, he says, the kitchen on his so after shooting.

Speaker 4

That nigga, damn, let the gun work.

Speaker 1

I was like, ye told me that the homie told me how to shoot the.

Speaker 3

Drake, and they I learned from I'm on this.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

I was fine.

Speaker 3

Apparently sitting around taking all that out.

He definitely ain't last thing I'm gonnay about.

King Ever, he said, I didn't point down enough.

Speaker 2

Today.

Speaker 3

I showed you I learned from those mistakes.

I heard it all like, actually said like.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, I was like, oh wow that I'm just gonna tell nobody that that don't know that.

You don't say nothing because it ain't just for other people to figure out that.

Okay, I'm talking about I'm talking about really getting cracky.

Speaker 3

You'm figuring that out together.

Told people that ship and didn't have him go back to the higher hieroglyphics and ship go back to the Egypt.

Then that meant this and the other saw go back to Doe.

Good look, yeah, go back to and there.

Honey told me that you said the hommy told me to aim at this way.

Speaker 1

His homie didn't point down.

And today I showed you.

I learned from those mistakes.

Speaker 3

That ship fires so much fire that you put them together.

It's like, damn, that's fire.

Speaker 1

You don't mean shout out the king o deck, thank you for the fire dollars first ball was playing.

Now he's the same as tank dunking tank.

David say, lo, raise your hand from now before you talk boxing again.

Listen, I'm proud out of Bud.

Speaker 3

Getting that win.

Speaker 2

Brother.

Speaker 1

I'm just saying this is just his second grade win.

There's nothing wrong with the most gangster giving that on that ship.

Speaker 2

You eating your most gangs, most gangster thing that Bud Dido was giving that man back of his belt.

So that was gangster right there to me.

Speaker 3

Well, come on now, trapped, stop stop sting.

That's the best conception that they tried to throw out throwing some trickery.

He's getting all new belts.

Speaker 2

Man, that's it.

Speaker 3

That's Canello's bills to put up on this wall.

That that's the thing toop that.

Speaker 2

Does that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, classy, bro, It's okay to be classy.

Speaker 2

I know I was classy right there.

Man.

That class we don't want.

Speaker 3

To tell we could We could actually just let the class happen.

Speaker 4

You don't have to be like, oh, you get it.

People put don't through the curtain, don't pull the curtain back.

Speaker 3

Yes, that people world of what's that fantasy world.

Speaker 2

I'm playing on finding the supermen away through?

They don't playing some midweight no more.

Speaker 3

Shout out to Natasha, thank you for the fifty check dollars.

Natasha.

Speaker 4

I was so happy to see.

Speaker 1

He asked Shike do his freestyle as Chak do his freestyle on Kay Shanat's Marathon three on rap Radar stream and Snoop Dogg and WHISKYLEYFD.

I saw the clips Smoke down, Shack is dope, and I'm happy I got a song.

I wanted to do a song with Chaike four years ago.

That's how dope I thought he was.

I never finished the song, but I still got the ship and I'm like, I'm gonna build it out one of these days.

But I always thought Chike was dope, So I really don't like, I really don't watch Kasan stuff not like that is like I watch a clip, but it's kind of like too tongue in cheek for me.

Yeah, I mean not not not saying y'all shouldn't watch it.

Support anybody that's a brother, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4

That's solid.

I'm saying it's like for girls.

Speaker 3

I don't really watch it like that.

I love this for girl.

Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 2

Kids.

Speaker 4

Thank you for the fifty check dollars glasses.

Speaker 1

Did you watch the Drake interview for Magic City that he doesn't give a funk about any other rappers think a him or his music?

Speaker 3

He's lying.

Speaker 1

I saw the clip.

He looked like he looked like a little hurt damsel in distress when he did that, you don't really give a fuck about nobody listening to my music?

Speaker 3

Yes, you do.

You know he's lying because he'd buy everything from any rapper to he.

Speaker 1

It's funny he said, I don't care what nobody else think of my music and I was just thinking about that with the Joe Budden thing, like you're a hardcore Joe butden fan.

Joe Budden gives you criticism on an album that he didn't think was dope, and instead of you responding or coming to sit down with him and asking what he didn't like, or seeing him in person and then going to talk to him, you put this whole raggedy comment in the section like he's a feel.

Speaker 4

He wouldn't be a faker.

Speaker 3

That's a dragon, Jason.

Speaker 1

It was a platinum rap all, like he's made a living off rap for years.

Then he transitioned into a streamer.

Speaker 3

I didn't like that.

Speaker 1

That was one of the things that kind of early on, I was like, I don't like that.

It's not a million things I didn't like.

That was one of the things I didn't like.

I was like, you act like this dude was your grade.

That's why I believe him about none of these people he says his inspiration.

I think all that shit's a lie.

I think everybody said was an inspirationist a lot.

I think his inspirationist people like Elvish.

I think it's inspiration is people at best like Michael, like people like different people.

I don't think his inspiration is people in hip hop all that.

But I swear to God Dog because.

Speaker 2

That I can see that.

Speaker 1

I don't think he really respects that Michael, But I don't think he respected he used to rap Joe Bines.

That's because that's what you would do if you just heard somebody you've seen was getting credit, you just emulate them.

So you think he's a mimic, he just he's a He don't quite understand what goes into this ship.

He's just mimic and styles.

Speaker 3

That's the genius.

Mimic and styles.

Speaker 1

I mean, but that's how you learn how to jack genius like I'll do that until I put into position to actually use these the correct way.

If you don't know why the punches are thrown, you.

Speaker 3

Just throwing punch.

Hey, that's an interesting theory and it actually it makes a whole lot of sense.

Speaker 1

I don't believe none of them people.

I don't believe he looked up to Push.

I don't believe he really looked up to Fontee.

I think he heard some of their music.

He thought they was dope, saw what they was getting, and that was it.

I don't think he grew up studying these guys like that.

I don't believe it.

He studied them as a way to build his business.

Speaker 3

Like an actor study his script.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so he wasn't inspired.

He wasn't inspired, But none of them artists that he mentions like that.

Speaker 4

Thing inspiration is short.

I think he was aspired.

Speaker 3

Do you think it was more infatuation than love when it comes to hip did rap for hip hop?

Speaker 1

No, I don't think it was none of that.

I think I think he was looking for a way to be cool.

He had talent, he comes from a family of musicians.

He knew he could do it.

He put it together.

If you hear him rap, you know he's dope, like you could hear it like.

So, he just wanted to be popular.

Speaker 2

That's it.

Speaker 3

That's what I believe.

The way you said, it's almost like he had hip hop blust, not love though, that's what it is.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 5

Was through the hip hop door because he was still black at the time, so he couldn't go through popular.

Speaker 2

It was always black, so he had to go.

Speaker 1

But I don't think it was hip hop journey.

But I don't think it was just a journey about music.

Speaker 4

Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5

I'm gonna talk about to get to become popular like that, you have to go through hip hop.

Speaker 1

You couldn't everybody go through hip hop his first door.

You could tell what everybody who not from the streets, their first door is to go through backpackers.

That's their first door.

Backpacker, that's the backpackers don't have no standard.

They ain't let anybody in know you like wrap, you got a notebook, you went us and then it's acting.

He was coach backpack Im finl get on my boys.

You to get on all the hommy backpackers don't have no backpackers.

Backpackers are like gang bangers.

They the worst standards of hip hop.

Speaker 3

Anybody could get in.

Speaker 2

No yeah, backpack no no, no, it's not a fact.

Speaker 3

Everything and that's all fire with the style.

Speaker 2

I got a story that hip hop man, that's the roots of hip hop.

Yeah, what you say, can.

Speaker 5

They're saying Drake was was that Nickelodeon working, you know, on that Garrossi show and Matt Wayne at that the Garrossi Show over that Disney And this is how Wayne said, I want to make you a rapper.

Speaker 3

Got started.

Speaker 2

That's not what happened.

No, it happened.

Speaker 3

You know how it happened, how they became.

All I know is a story.

Speaker 4

But it had more to do with jazz J prince Son.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, okay, but I don't know.

Speaker 4

I'm saying that's not how the Holster.

Maybe it could have.

Speaker 1

I don't know, but that's why.

Speaker 3

That's what I heard.

Speaker 4

But he just say I wanted to make you a rapper because.

Speaker 3

He was rapping in the bathroom and Wayne heard him.

It was like, okay with you.

Speaker 1

But the thing is, if you listen to Drake rapping on him come Back Seasons and those other projects, he can rap like he's he's a he's a qualify them.

Speaker 2

SE's not a bad m.

Speaker 3

It is just yes, I heard Wayin' hurting the rapper.

It's like, oh yeah, I want to work with you like he rap.

Speaker 1

Listen, man, when that when that switched go off, it's viable when that flip that switch comes down.

I've never I ain't gonna lie to you, I've never in my entire life heard that type of switch at that level in my life.

I never heard somebody flip the switch and be a completely different person like and here's raps sometimes that's pulls it on.

Yeah, sometimes.

Speaker 2

It's like that was like when she talked regular.

Speaker 1

You know, you be like, yeah, it's a well stock, why ship don't never stop?

And it's like you'll be cool.

I'll be like, man, that's kind of cool.

And then a ship come off and it be like that's a cut, that's a take.

Speaker 3

Be like like I've never like.

Speaker 1

Homie is like a complete fraud, and like the girl, I'm gonna get your sucker.

Speaker 3

When she started pulling off everything she started pulling off.

Speaker 4

He brought up no stop.

Speaker 3

If you listen to him rapp on, no Stop, and then you go listen to that Bobby whatever her name is interview, you're here talking to Aid And.

Speaker 2

I said that that was like, was like when she talked regularly, that's old.

Speaker 1

But it's like Drake is the biggest fraud I ever heard make rap music.

Speaker 3

So he's the middle Vanillia rap.

Should they get worried.

Speaker 2

Nah singing like like this is Drake actually rapping.

Speaker 1

I don't think I've ever heard something as far removed, Like he's not cool at all, Like I've never saw him talk, And it was cool.

All them clips, all these clips, over all these years in person seeing him talk all these clips I've never saw it was.

Speaker 3

Like, damn, that was that was cool?

Like but like he got a lot of music.

Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 4

Music is powerful.

Speaker 3

M this nigga calling this dude malibus most wanted.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's obviously cared because he was cussing Joe Budden's out when he talked about his music and what he thought of his music.

That's where he's at now.

So shout out to Pete, thank you for the two dollars.

Speaker 3

Kids.

Speaker 1

Sean chose to say co write it's at a sample because he co writer.

It's not a sample, Pete.

That's now you call it.

Shut out to k Wait, thank you for the ten dollars.

It's crazy another field or any other field or genre.

We were shame folks like Lance Armstrong, Mary and Jones, Milly Vanilli would turn a blind eye to the boy when we have ocular proof of cultural and musical plagiarism k Wait, because it's more than that.

It's not as simple as plagiarism and music.

You know, he's saying, like in the other shit, if we saw somebody cheating, oh okay, because ka like I would have to get rid of Michael Jet like the list of people I would have to get rid of for that is crazy.

That yeah, that's different because of music doing that versus you know, yeah, that's what I'm saying, the bike or do you know running track or so that's different.

Plagiarism is I agree, Like plagiarism is wrong.

If somebody did just sing a song that was somebody else song and it blew up, it is different.

Speaker 3

Like that is you're inspired by them and let them know.

But did he did he steal the work?

I mean I guess so.

Speaker 1

I think JD said that you not or somebody said, you're not trying unless you steal it.

Speaker 3

I don't know, don't ask me not trying, that's crazy.

Speaker 1

You're not trying to shout out to all skit, thank you for the five dollar watching your game.

Y'all know the music is a toxic part of black culture.

So it's a gang culture being mainstream.

That don't make sense because gang culture is not being mainstream.

Speaker 2

That's like, well, when they're doing when they're doing the CP walk at the super Bowl.

Speaker 3

Kids, that's still a happen.

Speaker 2

They got the super Bowl.

Speaker 1

It's not like the whole crowd started cript walking after that, that's one cryp crip walk.

Speaker 4

I don't know if that's talking.

Speaker 2

The background dances doing that, I don't think.

Speaker 1

I don't think nobody went.

I was like, oh man, did you see that dance?

They're putting me on tomorrow I'm scheduling might put on.

I don't think it didn't infect America?

Wasn't It didn't poison America with nothing?

And what's wrong with being a crypt No.

Speaker 2

I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying that I've seen that.

I'm gonna hold you when I've seen that.

I was like, yeah, man, they doing that shit at the Super Bowl B in front of the people that don't know nothing about the culture like that.

Speaker 4

They won't have no idea about the Colt drafting.

Speaker 3

I've got a question for you, trapped.

Speaker 2

Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3

People crip walk that ain't crypts?

Speaker 5

I got a question for you, trapped, So you too, walking is worse than when the people be twerking everywhere.

Speaker 3

On TV.

Speaker 2

Comp turking actually comes from African culture, though, so send you up then over there toxic?

Speaker 3

So he said a thing now African, I know you think for Black culture.

Now that's so k over here.

Speaker 4

He was saying.

Speaker 1

He was saying that that's why I was cool because Africa's dad.

I'm like, so it can't be.

I don't look, I'm not finna get into that.

Twarking is not a black cultural thing.

Most black people do not twerk.

Speaker 3

Like like crip walking.

It's not it's not it's not they missing out.

Speaker 1

Shout out to Leonardo Thomas, thank you for the five dollars, brother, It's not enough.

That's that slag line needs explanation and clearance from Drake.

Speaker 3

No, it don't.

Speaker 1

He fucked up and there's nothing really to explain you.

He sees himself as other.

That's that's been obvious the whole time.

When he said people in the hood, like he said, he saw his dad get jacked up at the border.

Speaker 3

The border.

Speaker 4

It's so traumatic.

Speaker 1

Dad was trying to cross illegally, he said, I saw Peter, he said, So that's why people in the hood relate to my music.

Speaker 3

That's his version of somebody getting beat up in the hood by the police.

Is his dad getting stopped at the border.

Speaker 1

So illegally crossing into That's the same thing him.

Speaker 4

It's like, I go, man, be whooping.

Speaker 3

Ask for everybody about He wrote a song about that.

Yeah, my dad at the border and ship.

Speaker 1

You know, get the shout out today, Visious, thank you for the two dollars.

How do we get God to do an interview today?

Speaker 3

You know what?

Speaker 1

I don't know, but everybody keep trying to get me to talk to him and I am, but I don't.

I don't think I want to make I'm not an interviewer.

So if y'all like, I wanted to ask y'all, who did y'all want on this platform?

But I'm not interviewing nobody that's.

Speaker 2

Not even come down and trap it up, comes down and trap it up.

Speaker 1

And we're gonna politic If I talk to Dollar on the show, we're gonna be talking about a bunch of old ship.

We probably won't even talk about the battle unless it's something funny.

Speaker 3

It's like that's the best way to get to know somebody.

Anyway, though, we got to.

Speaker 2

Give him a point in five minutes.

Speaker 1

Man, Thank you for the fifty check dollars.

Natasha, this was beautiful to see the clips.

First time rappers ever to perform at the Vatican with John Legend said, you know what's funny?

I told trap that was the best song on that record.

I said, I mean, yeah, yeah, that that ship is dope.

Speaker 3

I mean.

Speaker 1

I thought it would hope for him just to be at the Vatican.

Speaker 3

Y'all know how I feel about John Legend.

I like Johnny.

Speaker 1

I know you're hating on Joe's over rating from the rated coach.

Speaker 2

Thank God got one note, crazy.

Speaker 3

Boy got the wards.

We got one note.

Speaker 1

Saream had one shot that made thousand John Legends scream.

Now look it looked like he was at the Vatican and ship the real ordinary people.

Speaker 2

Oh my god, that's it.

I understand one day understand.

Speaker 3

Why named four John Legend songs?

Speaker 2

That's I can like that.

Speaker 3

I bet you, I bet you could named seventeen Luther Ratro songs.

Speaker 2

Right now in my sleep, I canna John Legend song.

Speaker 4

John Legend.

Speaker 1

Luther is the best singer in the world, the greatest all time.

I'm best male vocalist in the history of music.

Speaker 3

He performed at the Vatican.

No, okay, then let's not talk about John.

He performed at that.

Speaker 5

I used that hold on the reason why John Legend for the Vatican, because look where the post from.

Speaker 3

Now, okay, think about that.

Now, look where the Pope is from actually Legends.

Speaker 2

Yeah, man, King is cooking.

The King is cooking over there.

Speaker 1

I like that John Legends on best I Ever the song that they use for the the Kevin Hart movie the name of It.

So I think John D John Legend is better than that nigga, y'all like Frank Ocean.

Speaker 3

I'm gonna tell you better than John.

Song should be called ordinary People.

One, Ordinary People, two, Ornary People three.

That's all that.

Speaker 2

Now, listen to Get Lifted and listen to Get Lifted album.

Listen to the Same Room album and we're doing it again.

Speaker 3

Crazy Ever.

Yeah, I'll be I love him.

Speaker 1

You have to say, I'm gonna listen to a bunch of John listen now, but I like here like ordinary People is a dope song.

Speaker 2

Yeah People is a classic song, man.

Speaker 4

Your song in history.

Speaker 3

You gotta go listen to Blonde like you gotta go listen.

Speaker 2

To You gotta listen to Blonde.

Blonde is fire pressed.

Speaker 1

And you got the fact that y'all acting like that's good.

Like we're coming off with some of the best R and B like me and you grew up in the time with R and B was fantastic.

Speaker 4

You talking about gonna listen to blonde.

Speaker 3

Or or nigga.

Speaker 2

No blonde is fire not fire.

Speaker 3

You gotta listen.

He sing good enough here?

Speaker 1

I mean you don't have, like, you know, great fire, not sing Teddy roddy.

That's how Bobby Brown and Keith swe his bats ain't even good enough.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna send you.

I'm gonna send you my Frank Ocean playlist and let me and this is.

Speaker 4

No mister frank and all with no fucking singing.

Speaker 1

All of me with John Legend was was cool.

I like this nigga coach trippy, how you big enough?

And talking shit about John Legend, John Lesson to sing Frank O.

Speaker 3

Cinder, Ordinary People three and four, I guess ordinary People the whole catalog for that.

Ordinary People seven coming.

I can't wait.

Speaker 1

Shout out to Zid, thank you for the two dollars.

Mexico line was about the Raptors losing early in the playoffs.

Yes it was and still was weird.

He's playing the trip to go to Mexican like whatever.

Speaker 4

Whatever.

Speaker 1

Shout out to all Skit, thank you for the five dollars.

Do Mexicans have a genre of music based on killing called your rap?

No, it's called corrido's asshole.

God, it's called corridos, and you set them dudes with them big fucking hats something.

See this is my problem, skit, y'all be on that bullshit.

Do Mexican have a genre of music based on killing called your rap?

No, they have a they have a genre of music called corrios, and all of it is cowboys stories where people get shot down.

And you think gangster rap god people getting shot down.

Go look at what happened to to?

Uh, what's my boy?

I'm writing a movie on his life.

I've been slowly writing the movie.

Uh uh uh Charlino Sanchez, go look it, go go look what happened to Chilino.

Go Look, y'all keep acting like black people doing something new.

People been messing each other up over this music that's been happening in Ireland, been happening in Mexico.

This is this ain't nothing, y'all keep me, y'all, keep trying to put stuff off on black people that ain't nothing new to humanity.

Speaker 3

Nothing corridos.

When you see them dudes be playing.

Speaker 1

Don't don't, don't bomm don't.

Speaker 3

About knocking shit down over drugs.

Speaker 1

See, y'all don't see that when y'all be thinking them pisces be wearing them hats and them really them belts in them boots, they're cowboys.

Them belts cost like two thousand dollars, them shoots belts and them boots to them boost expensive.

Speaker 2

You don't even know that.

Speaker 1

See you, you thought you was being slicked with that skit, and see that that fast you ain't.

No, Yes, Mexican's got a job.

Rap music based off knocking sh it.

And they really knocking ship down too, They knocking ship down.

I show you a picture where they knocked some ship down.

They shot this man called over the music.

Speaker 7

Hold on, No, no, they don't know about cartels and stuff I like, and they gotta understand what the hell it'd be real l a Mexican game man scared of them, Like.

Speaker 3

Down there, them dudes ain't no mess with him.

Speaker 1

My homies, my messking hommies be like he was talking to Looney Bro.

I'm talking to loony loony a homie bro one one seven sign gang.

I'm like, man, I finna come down there, were gonna hang out, loon.

He like, man, you can't come down there with all that ship we be doing he knew the man like men, you can't come down here with all that ship we be doing.

My boy, he was like, man, glass, don't fuck with it like all them people with them hats and all that people.

Speaker 3

And that fast.

Speaker 1

Y'all tried to make something unique, y'all always trying to make something unique to black No, we're just humans.

Sometimes we laid on ship like we was laid on credit card scams.

We were laid on drive boys.

We was laid on music about knocking people down and entertainment about knocking people down.

Everybody else all these white people for years had cowboy movies, and the whole movie is knocking shit down.

As soon as we get some entertainment about right now, they didn't went through so many years they making movies about white people that knocked it in.

Speaker 3

They gonna an them for knocking motherfuckers down.

Speaker 2

Let's go.

Speaker 3

That's the whole thing.

Speaker 1

As soon as black people finally making some entertainment, y'all like, oh my god, we always late.

Speaker 3

We late to the party.

Speaker 1

We were late to check system.

I seen that movie with Frank Abig Neil Junior with uh what's it called?

People was talking shit about black people doing checks in the eighties and nineties.

Frank was doing it in the fifties and sixties.

Speaker 3

On Delta Delta checks.

Y'all so full of.

Speaker 1

Shit, And as soon as y'all get in front of these white people, y'all start with you know, because black people, no, because people we late to all this shit.

Tell me the first that black people start doing first.

We ain't starting nothing first.

We always lead, not in America.

Speaker 2

Always.

Speaker 3

One thing we start doing first is taking baths.

Speaker 1

Were always leaked.

Really, you know when we was first on Season and Chicken, that's what we was first on.

We was last on Drive By.

We was first on season and Chicken?

Speaker 2

How about that?

Speaker 1

Shout out to sign leg thank you for the five dollars.

You're wrong, glasses.

The difference is Kate out is actually a cryptic artist.

That's literally one of the reasons why he won a political prize.

I'm not saying he's not a cryptic artist.

I'll tell you I don't give a fuck about solving the puzzle.

You missed it, tramp.

Speaker 3

He said he not.

Speaker 2

Smart.

Speaker 4

You don't have to worry about who else smart.

Speaker 3

Listen with the colder or nothing is.

Speaker 1

The record, jam I told this nigga that I'm like, man, I don't give a fuck about none of them skits.

Is the record jamming, He sounded like, He's like, Nigga, you love skits, you be having skins.

Fuck all that records, Nigga, is the records jamming.

It's the fucking records.

I don't give a fuck about no fuck.

I don't give a fuck off you play it backwards.

I don't about none of that.

Speaker 3

Ship and I played for it in the records is jamming, traps, trap, trap, trap.

Speaker 1

I'm not talking ship.

I'm not mad at none of y'all who look fire?

Speaker 3

Have you rather less up?

I don't.

Speaker 1

I don't give a if you put the music in three folds and play this is the record jamming that nigga know me like a bush.

Speaker 4

That's why this album sounds its way, because the records need to be jamming.

Speaker 3

That's what I fuck with you here, good album coming out.

He just want to hear if it's jamming track.

Speaker 4

Talk about niggas rapping with no drum.

Speaker 1

I'm not fucking with none of that ship without no drums, nigga, How you even call it a beat if it don't beat, I'm not fucking with none of that.

Speaker 3

Listen.

Speaker 1

I love all of that shit.

I love I get it, I get it, but I'm listening to the songs when I turn on music.

I'm not mad at nothing deeper.

I make deeper shit.

Shout out to y'all.

I won't make deeper shit, but I really care about the records.

So I'm not saying God ain't cryptic.

I thank God is cryptic.

I just don't care about that part of it.

That's for y'all, y'all.

I'm like, is the song good.

I'm listening for Inner City Blues and it's a good record.

That's why I like gn X.

It's great records.

Is the music jamming.

Shout out to just be Yapping, Thank you for the five dollars.

Abrey the most bothered, wanna be unbothered.

Speaker 4

I like how you did that.

Speaker 1

He's so mad he can't even stop giving himself self inflicted els.

Speaker 4

Love that for him.

Speaker 2

It is like that.

Speaker 3

He is doing it to himself now, that boy glutting for punishment.

Shout out to.

Speaker 1

Miss Peachy Peaches, thank you for the five dollars.

Jelope pointed out that Terrence Thornton and Crawford May history the same night Euphoria Drake Drake in her first use the Untouchables movie driver.

All facts, facts, all facts.

Yeah, you're right, you are right.

That's true.

They did both make history that night.

All the terrences, oh terrences.

Shout out to Natasha, Thank you for the twenty check dollars.

Bobby Audolf did an interview and confed it with YG.

Speaker 3

I saw that.

I didn't really look at it though, because that little white.

Speaker 1

They just around there just look crazy.

Shut out to k Wait.

Thank you for the five dollars.

Coach ain't never been in love.

Most of john catalog is about marriage and clapping raw cheeks with your wife.

I love me some me, shout I desire.

Thank you for the two dollars.

Coach stopped being a yes man in the glasses.

Speaker 4

God damn it.

Speaker 3

Why thank you?

Speaker 2

Thank you?

Speaker 1

Coaches?

Speaker 3

Where the fuck is coaches?

Speaker 2

A man?

Speaker 3

Coach?

I always agree with me first up on the first time.

If I heard that you agree with me once in my life, you always to agree with them in the end.

That's crazy.

What he'll be like, are you the whole I want to fight.

I kind of agree with you saying, but I always agree with some of his ship, but then I always end.

Speaker 1

Up agreeing that no cuts said it.

Coach is the antagonist.

Hell y'all talking about.

Speaker 3

I'm cool, thank you that other comment, somebody coach you again right now.

I always come back to that comment to her Glass to say you you just be trying to disagree with me.

I'm blaking that other niggas.

Speaker 4

Comments called the division cry.

Speaker 1

Coaching Glass like, bro, and that's why you always disagree with me.

He'd be like, nag funk that.

I'll be like, coach, so you mean to tell me no.

Speaker 3

No, no, I'm happy I got that coming, dude, Like, I'm just yes, yeah you should coach?

Speaker 2

All right?

Speaker 3

Trap, is you done coming up?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

I gotta gotta it up?

Speaker 1

Pop back in yeah, child to k Way, Coach never agreeves with g They are real life Claude and Ray.

Speaker 4

That's probably closer to me.

Speaker 3

Claud and Ray.

Speaker 4

That's probably you guys, that's for sure.

Speaker 1

And he's for sure Ray old city slicking at He said, no, motherfucker farmers come down here.

Speaker 3

He's a fucking farmer.

It's crazy.

I would out for sure, you're about to be ready.

I was thinking about it because g ain't Claude though that's a problem.

I'm definitely clawede g ain't club.

Speaker 2

All right?

Speaker 3

Pop back on Trapp where's your camera?

Speaker 2

Jesus got the computers?

Speaker 1

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Speaker 4

We gotta go through this.

Speaker 1

Thing so we can start sending out them cash apps.

I'm gonna requesting cash apps next week.

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Shout out to everybody who moderated the chat.

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We're gonna get somebody to be on the stream really soon.

Trying to forget the right person.

Could I get guess Djail up here.

Yes, I'm gonna do that.

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Speaker 3

DJAS somebody else too, feel me shout out.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 4

I got something to say.

Speaker 3

Yes, not gonna just let me get through this.

Speaker 4

Huh, I thought you was doing go ahead, get through it and me do this every day.

And he like, I thought you was done.

There's no way you thought I was done.

Speaker 3

Cause you hit the button.

Somebody no ciling the podcast.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 4

I heart hit that, Like, but go ahead, where's the men that from?

Speaker 3

With King a mint?

No, the digger brought me my meal, my dream?

Speaker 2

Do I get dessert?

Speaker 3

Do I get where's the men at King?

Had to get in?

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 2

All right, hold on real quick, so man, this meal.

Speaker 4

Now you had to be a good guess.

Speaker 3

That'll be a good guest, ye it will be yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Listen, man, if you're in the DC area September twentieth, man, we're doing we're doing an event out there.

We have to digging in the Crates crew.

Now I'm saying to be broadcasting live from there for the hip hop hip Hop Top one hundred features of all time.

If you're in the DC area, I'm gonna put some more information up on here on Wednesday.

Speaker 1

And even though y'all can't see that talking face, that I ain't talking face.

September, if you are in the d C area.

In the DC area, they're doing a dope event, the digging in the Crates Crew.

It's gonna be fantastic.

I think it's at Howard right.

Speaker 2

You know it's it's not a Howard, it's the location.

Speaker 1

A little information we're gonna post it on this channel.

If you're in the DC area on the twentieth, go support some real hip hop people.

Give me that really messed it and put on for the culture.

We will see y'all Wednesday, same time.

Speaker 3

What's love to everybody?

Speaker 1

Good looking out for tuning into The note Seller's Podcast.

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Speaker 3

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