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And welcome back to another episode of No Sealers Podcast with your hosts now Funk that with your low glasses Malone.

Where y'all can finish, y'all, Uh, y'all, y'all t a conversation talk.

Talk wow like that King, you don't like neggative stereotype.

You don't think you a part.

Here, connoisseurer.

It's not stereotype, you know, connoisseur.

Why y'all think?

Why y'all think people can't admit when they be addicted to wig?

We ain't talking about something else?

Now, that's you can't be addicted to weed?

You know, No, King, people could be addicted to anything if they want to.

That's a cop all, but it's it's true.

That is right.

Yeah, I think I'm addicted to See.

I don't think I'm addicted to weed, but somebody else might say I think you are because you smoke so much.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

But I could probably walk away and not smoke if I don't want.

To, but I want to.

Yeah, you start selling, gives my choice?

You start at what point?

You don't think people that want to smoke crack me?

Just like and not to compare the too, because I obviously.

Compared the two, because I'm just gonna go back to the mental state of people.

You know, addiction to me goes back to the mental strength that people have.

So what's the mental strength?

I mean, if you weak and stuff, you'll be addicted to stuff.

If you're strong, then you could walk away from something.

It's just that simple.

Yeah, But how would you know if you could walk away from something if you never had to.

Hey, if you try and don't walk away from it, then you're weak and it's bad for you.

You're weak.

But how would you know if you never challenge yourself to walk away from I smoke weed and I could walk away or not.

How do you know that leave an absence was your leave absence?

You know, there's a couple of times I took a leave of when smoking weed.

Well, a couple of times, you know, for a few weeks while incarcerated.

It's not.

Cracking jail old.

Oh, you can still trust me.

I smoked weed in jail prison.

You can do all that.

You know.

There's times out here that I took a leave of absent when I just didn't have the money to buy some weed.

You know.

I mean, come on, I didn't freak out and start robbing motherfuckers and ship for some weed.

It was like, know that everybody don't do that.

People that be addicted the liquor don't be robbing people.

I don't know, they'd be drinking rubbing alcohol and ship cheeseburgers.

Man, yeah, you know everything.

You ain't gonna turn a nice smoke into, you know, dressing the scum of the world.

You know, come on, man, stop, it.

Did everything that you name.

It comes within a physical withdrawal though.

You know what I'm saying, when the cracker, the crack crack at, it stops, stops doing crack to get a physical with draw dope thinking physical withdraw like that.

You know what I'm saying, I'm getting on physical withdrawal from those stop smoking weed that don't happen to me.

How long have you stopped, because it does happen.

It happened.

I stopped.

I stopped for years, I stopped long ago, absence, just a while ago, a while ago.

But the stuff, it is real potent, man like.

That's another reason why, like it'd be too much.

Man Like.

I had to stop because it was it was taking me out of commission.

It wasn't like it when I was eighteen, you know what I'm saying, garbage smoking that it was good stop.

We had, you know, get a bad name for because of Bama, Bamer.

We cush was from the backyard.

Backyard.

Uh, no ceilings but yeah that low I could.

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It's a weird idea kind of tells the story of how me and DJ Vlad met, how we started to come up together and where we had our problem.

Man, while we don't communicate now, it's a.

Very in depth story and uh it's really all the truth.

I ain't I didn't put nothing on it, like, I didn't make it any worse or any better.

Than it had to be no different than making two Problemas die.

It's that kind of story.

I call it novel rap because it's so it's so nuanced, like it's it's it's so detailed.

I got in.

You know, I didn't leave nothing to the imagination.

You could, you can see the idea, but you don't have to figure out nothing else, like it's all there.

He said.

Call it novelty rap.

Trap might put your in literature poetry category.

Hey listen, man, you wanted to be in the hip hop category.

You call it.

No, no, no, it's not.

It's not true, but not novelty novel novel hip hop.

Hip hop is.

Category though not hip hop category.

No, no, you can't, because hip hop comes from storytelling.

Man, you know what I'm saying.

It's always been that though.

That's one of my favorite songs, Like the first I would say, the first rap that I really memorized the whole thing was slick with children's story.

That's my that's my too, that's mine too.

That's the first song I remember a word for word, and.

I mean I think my mom the first time I saw it was my mom and my aunt was doing it.

They did like a B E T.

It was like maybe two thousand and two, two thousand and maybe they did a B thing and this was years after, but it was like the first one that I remember, like learning from front to back, like from that day, I remember them.

I remember my mom and my aunt was ran upstairs to the top floor and they was looking at each other.

I was like, oh okay, I was test.

I was like okay, like yeah, so I love that whole, Like I love that.

Like I have a list of like storyteller songs that I'm like, yeah, like what's the best storyteller songs?

And that nothing really beats that.

I mean it could really.

One song that beats that.

I know what you're gonna say, tell him what song it is?

Bro, Well, you know what sto it is?

Tell him?

I know what song you're gonna say, just the friend.

You're gonna say that beat in New York, right, what you're gonna.

Say, Oh that yo, Dad is a good your Probably.

I think I think they're both as iconic, and I think one is a more popular.

Story that maybe the second one I learned back to back.

That's the beat, that's the beat that gets that one.

It's a story Trapped.

It's the story, but it's the beat that captures you to love with that when it comes to that.

Th Regulator is a really popular story too.

Regulators that beat.

Now, I could give you that track and everybody know what happened, what happened to and like, yeah, they they don't.

And that's that.

That's another one on my t.

Story Wrapped, Like I'm I'm pretty good at that.

So telling this story was different.

It was it was.

Like I didn't even know if I wanted to tell the story.

It's just the relationship got worse and worse, you know what I'm saying, Like they got worse and worse and worse, and nothing really bad happened.

But I could tell he was making a cognitive effort to avoid things where he probably could have said glasses this or you know how all right of a nigga, I am, but I guess in his mind, I guess I'm not.

So it really just pressed me to just be like, you know, the same thing I'm doing all these Digital Maxi singles, I mean, these digit Maxi singles.

So it was like, Okay, this would be a good idea to make people listen to multiple chapters of one song, I mean of one idea.

So that was that was like one of my first questions, What made you do that?

Now?

That is it?

Because I.

See the visuals right off rip like like you said, it's all there.

And I'm a very visual person when I because I do video treatments.

That was kind of like my entry way into the industry.

It's just doing video treatments.

I've been sent a bunch of early stuff.

It wasn't really sent to me, a sent to my homeboy, but we was working together.

And so every time I hear a song, I like to automatically think about the visuals of a song.

And yeah, so with your first that's how No.

I was introduced to you way back in the day.

That's how it was reintroduced you with the two Must Die and then you just did this last one with the Jurassic Park five.

So that video very visual.

Is you know you got the fake drinking their you know, real dope.

I'm wearing the shirt sketch all his shirt right here now, So yeah, what like why this one?

Why?

Now?

So as.

The whole thing with the Digi Maxi single is.

Like, right, is I understand where they want to pay the bit how they want to pay the business, how they want to pay for records, Like I get where they're at.

And it's like.

Historically the medium that songs were presented on determine the type of songs you would make.

This is like the first time in human history to me where excuse me, a recorded music history, rather that that's not being thought of, Like I mean when you think about shr lack records like old seventy eighths, the hard ones, like they would make them based off how you would hear them, the forty five, you know what I mean, Ray Charles, Like, not only did it actually encourage the length of the record, you know the length of the recording, but even how you record it.

Think about it, like when you listen to Doctor Dre and Snoop, A lot of that stuff was made for the car because of the compact disc.

Like music had went mobile by that point at a different pace than it did, you know, coming when it came from conss to here.

It was like fully mobile, like you could walk down the street with it, you could put it in your car.

So now that streaming app is a real thing, right, you have this this new way of digesting music.

But we're all doing these very old concepts or these old formats of how we make records.

So the idea for the Digy MAXI single was like, Okay, I can't.

We can't be in a business at a fraction of a cent.

If one person plays a song, that's not a viable business.

So it's like, okay, how do I get more money out of this outlet?

How do I get more money?

And it was like, okay, well, I could fix the business if I'm able to take an idea and stretch it across multiple titles.

But then how do you make it interesting?

Right?

So you don't cheat the fans?

Right cause I could take I got a hundred songs that I never put out.

I can just take those songs and chop them up.

But it's like, nah, let me challenge the ideas, right, let me not use the same hook.

Let me not make it repetitious.

Let me make it like every like.

If you listen to that idea every last chapter, there's new instruments in each you won't hear it instantly, but the more you listen to it and layers, it builds up into more and more and more and more.

You know what I mean?

And then the story.

So in this particular song, right, like with Wanted, it was each verse right like you if you want to hear Charlie Toney, you listen all the way through to because Charlie is like amazing, right, so you had to go through it.

Well, this one is the same thing.

Like it's like, okay, you.

Hear this, you hear this opening, right, and then you hear this, you hear me set the stage for the conflict, and then you hear the conflict and you know what I mean.

So now there's a reason to get through all the titles.

So now it's not like I'm just I'm not trying to take no money.

I'm allowing streaming apps to push me creatively to make different records, like new records, like you know, something that hasn't been made, and there's not a lot of records like this.

I think ice tea kind of six in the morning.

It's kind of like this, you know what I mean.

But it's like you don't hear people take the time to do a Martin scorseseast type of rap, whereas like, not only do you set the stage for people to understand and then you set the problem, but you also wrap it up with an epilogue to bring it all.

Home, you know what I mean.

So, I'm allowing streaming apps to push me creatively, to break away from, you know, the standard record that Ray Charles created, the forty five inspired Ray Charles created a pop record.

I'm allowing streaming apps to kind of push me into like a new wave of like how do I make records that are entertaining but yet cater to these mediums?

Why Vlad?

Now?

Why you want to address this story?

Have people ask why you haven't been on.

The show or Yeah, they asked me all the time, and so this is how you want to address it to people?

Yeah, I hear that all the time.

Really, really, why Vlad Now?

There's not anybody specifically like I'll write a record about me and trap walking through Harlem.

I don't think there's no crime in it.

Yeah, you know, I get it.

In this song people could kind of frown And I don't know because in my mind I handle Vlad with care in the song, like I didn't just shit on him.

I didn't just say a bunch of bullshit about him, And it was like, here's our circumstances, here's how I wanted to handle it.

Here's what our relationship is now.

To one day say it's time for me to try to resolve this.

No, it was just at that point now when I'm I'm looking for ideas that can cover multiple titles on the on the playlist, It's like, now I need something that's that's interesting.

How do I set the stage?

How do I how do I talk about somebody that you would know?

Like if I just make a story about my homeboy fifty from my neighborhood, right, you don't know fifty, So then I'm banking on you listening to me and giving the chance.

Versus if I tell you a story about my relationship with somebody you knew, you know what I mean, then you could really get a chance to It's like trap, Like how we use samples, samples Like we were just talking about it right now with today was a good day, like hearing that's between the sheets?

No, that's.

Is that Curtis?

Then that's Curtis curtisys.

Today it was a good day.

No, No, anyway, the sample itself, right, is like that allows you to receive the story.

That he's telling you.

What steps who steps in the dark, what steps in the dark that you go.

So it's like that allows you, that simple break allows you to now digest the story that cub was trying to tell you.

What it's like now is like, Okay, if you know the two characters, if you know the two principal the the two principles involved, now you could focus on the story like damn, okay, this is with glasses and this is with black.

So it was a combination of things.

It was I needed to tell a story that people were familiar with.

The principles no different than two part must die.

Like that's a familiar principles.

And then here's a familiar culture cripping.

And then here's a familiar person, Tupac.

This is how these two things collide.

Well, here's the same kind of thing.

This is dj vladd.

You know, one of the biggest faces in media.

Here is glasses Malone.

This this cultural you know, this cultural genius to some degree, right, this cultural icon, you know, I mean as far as in this culture.

And here here's a conversation.

Here's a relationship.

Normally, like you may not tell a story because you're worried about losing a relationship.

And the truth is it is like you know, it's already lost.

I mean yeah, shit, I mean.

Yeah, like you know what I'm saying.

But I didn't think it was.

I didn't think it was nothing.

Like like I could tell you some stories about people.

I can tell you stuff about rappers that got bullied in front of me.

I can tell you rappers that they got punked in front of me.

I can tell you stories of all kind of crazy shit.

So it's not none of those stories.

This story is.

About somebody to me outside of the culture, right, but it's very much adjacent to the arts, right, Okay, Like he was a mixtape dj, he was adjacent to the arts, so he was taking songs, putting them on his mixtape.

He was good at marketing, he was able to share them and get him everywhere and then his glasses.

Right, this is this street urban culture like like like prodigy to some degree, I mean, not not necessarily artistic like a NAS, but like the culture itself, like a prodigy in it, like I could, like, I get it, I fuck with it.

I'm heavy in it.

Currently NODS is like a prodigy in the art itself, you know what I mean.

I'm like the culture itself, like I live it, like we all.

Heard it, right, we all heard the song.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My question is do you think he is go get offended?

You know, not by the first part, but by the last part of re exposed maybe his most deepest pain to the whole.

World of what as far as what oh with the girl?

You can tell you okay, of walking in and catching this girl being pounded by somebody else, that that could be there no ask a questions, getting sure sure feelings and stuff about that.

Maybe maybe you know what I mean, maybe maybe maybe if it's if it's something he tried to hide, yeah it could.

It could definitely have him pretty mad at me.

That's what see.

I think I feel like as if you know what I'm saying that I say no, but when you go open up the door of his you know sure you're still with her?

Right?

I'm not sure?

But I mean yes that that that might be the most raggedy part of it all.

Like that.

That's what makes this different than Tupacmuns dies, because two park Muns die is there was nothing that could happen.

This is a person that passed away.

Here's these people that kind of dealt with it.

The only personal lodge steal made a situation where at least he thought he couldn't deal with it.

But obviously he's in a bunch of sh it now.

So that fucked it up now, which I wouldn't have made the fun is sound.

And then frohow ended up back in the ship.

But what if they put what did they put your song in the court case?

That ain't gonna happen.

You never thought about that though I thought about it.

Yeah, little key, that crazy.

That never.

But the thing is, I always know that Keithy gave me permission.

Yeah, I'm saying he already told the story of before that though, he told the story, And I did.

Just make a story without talking to him and some homies from over there, those that I know from over there, you know, to.

Make sure that sue glasses or something trapped, But how could you sue me?

Like what I'm saying, Like he already told the story.

He told, told the story to the post, He talked about Black.

Keef, He told the story to the police, told the story to Black, told the story for a book.

I heard you that's in peace.

Okay.

So the dude that Dumac played in the car, it was it was a solid older hummy, like he was a little older than me, but he was a solid hummy.

Let me ask you a question, are you afraid or do you think lab because he's got a history of using the courts to come back as somebody, you think he'll do a drake?

No, I mean it's not impossible.

I just don't and all that stuff.

But how would I be defaming him?

You know, I'm just saying though he was the famed and well, I.

Mean he was accusing because he felt like he was called, you know, a PDF on the song.

You know he sued the record label.

But I don't know if I'm not saying black, what would that make black?

Like?

What did I call it?

Blad in the song?

The thing about it is.

Messing around?

And if you joy, if you enjoyed, you cut right back to her.

What you thought that in the streets?

Call it?

And what you called that the streets trap?

What if you if you if you enjoy watching your watching your lady get get slapped by somebody, go.

Right back to her and everything's okay?

What you call that?

Call that a sucker for love?

Right there?

You know what I'm saying.

No, I didn't call him that though, he didn't.

He didn't.

He did.

I don't think of her friends.

I don't think with enough song at all.

You you you try to like.

The thing about the song is the fact that it's all true.

You know what I'm saying.

Nothing, there's nothing fabricated, there's nothing made up.

You know what I'm saying.

It's the truthful sirt.

So when he hears the song, he and he it's gonna bring him back to a moment of time that he probably tried to forget about though, you know what I'm saying.

And that's within every action, every chapter, within the song, though he tried to forget about all that, you know what I'm saying.

From the I don't want to.

I mean we could for the song gonna be out by time to come out though.

So even when it comes down to the to the the ship in Miami, whatever he was with the rhit though, what I'm saying in Houston though, and I'm saying, it's gonna just bring them back to probably moments of time that you probably try to forget about it and stuff like that.

But nah, but I mean, listen, man, it's the truth though.

And see this is where this is the question the main question I have, since we kind of already put it out there.

For one, I hear what you talk about glasses with because you're talking about retention rate.

You're talking about how long you can keep people on the apps, and so when you're doing this long story, it makes people listen.

And the longer you can keep people on his apps, the better.

So it's the two things that I hear when I'm focused on my YouTube stuff.

And when I'm focused on my stuff, it's how long people are watching.

And you know what my click through rate is, right, like how many people like what they see the thumbnail?

How many people clicking through.

But the main thing is retention is how long you're keeping people on these apps, because that's how they're gonna pay.

On YouTube, you you cut mid roll by at eight minutes, right, so you want your videos to be at least eight to ten minutes, you know, I usually try to keep minds eight to fifteen.

So that that's one thing.

So I hear you when you're saying that, and I think that's hope, because you made me listen to a five minute song within the last what hour, two hours?

Like four or five times, just so I can hear everything.

No, really that that's good.

Yeah, yeah, that's that's what you want because you want people to be like, oh okay, word.

So that's how you get paid nowadays.

How long you keep on people on That's why everybody go podcast because I mean, if I can keep you on a page for two hours, we're gonna get all the money.

So that's one thing I'm hearing.

But my thing to you, Glasses is because I don't think anything is bad on Flat, And I think you wrote that with kind of the intentions, because yeah, we know Flat.

Everybody knows Lad right like we know who Lad is, right.

I don't think anybody say anything new about her.

I don't think Abdy gonna be like, oh, you know, he's the fame of Flat.

Everybody in the fame Flat and worst ways.

Sure, But my thing is what made you bring Vlad to the hood?

Then this is my main question.

So we're a great question.

So that's fine.

What did you see in Blad to put your arm around him and give him the past?

Because clearly what you're saying is that he you knew, like and that's another question.

You kind of knew.

You said Homie was going to start feeling himself and start thinking he was the low right, So that's my thing.

What made you put your arm around Lad and bring him to the hood and give him this pass?

Because that's really the man.

So when i'm so, I'm I'm with Black Wall Street at this time, Okay, gang Gang, he shout out the face g RII everybody, all the homies.

But he's this mixtape DJ from the Bay Area, staying in LA.

His mixtapes are popping on the scene right You're starting to hear about him, called itself Vlad the butchert and it was like okay, And he took some of my songs and put him on his mixtape.

And I noticed that people was hearing the song, so I understand he understood marketing.

So we met on Brazil and he was telling me he was launching this Blad TV thing and he's like, man, I want to get you on Blad TV.

And I'm like, okay, cool, Like you know, we already starting exchange music.

He giving me looks on his tape.

I'm giving him exclusive songs, Chuck giving him exclusive songs.

So it's like okay, So I bring him on the seven and I have him, you know, my homies date looking at Robbie, you know what I mean, Like, who is this?

Yeah?

Yeah, that was one of the earth.

If you look at the earliest Blad TVs you go back to two thousand and five six, except on I'm on him right because it's like I'm on them because it's like, uh, like I was early on it, so it really was.

I didn't think of it as anything.

And at that time, Vlad was still acting street.

Like Blad was.

Remember this whole shit with Rose, like he was popping it to Rose online.

Like if y'all don't notice, like when Blad talk now, he kind of talks tough, you know what I mean, Like it's just how he talked, you know what I'm saying, Like he he talked like he on action.

And it's like and I think maybe at that time maybe he would have been down.

I mean, obviously with the Rick Ross shit, it proved otherwise.

But I'm saying I thought he understood those things.

But a pistol asking me to borrow a pistol is another level.

It ain't like bringing you to the neighborhood and making sure homies don't take advantage of you because they deep or one person or having your back loaning your pistol.

Now, I mean I'm I'm you playing with my freedom.

That's how I looked at it.

Not only are you playing with your freedom?

You know what I mean?

You playing with my freedom because if you these people shake you up and ask you where you got this gun from, and you then told him that you taught me what you just finna do I get the same time for some pussy ill never got, you know what I'm saying.

So it's like.

That that it wasn't so much bringing him around the way.

He was already coming the conference, So I was just dragging him the watch to do certain things, and it was dope.

It was definitely a mutual benefit relationship, you know what I'm saying.

But you know, asking me for a pistol to ball a gun is just different.

I mean, that's like serious, and that's where it was wrong.

That's where it went different.

That right there on, that was it, you know what I'm saying.

It was like, it's funny because my older homie plucked right.

Like I remember the first time I got to some ship and I asked the ball gun that Nigga said you had to go steal your own first gun, like I stole mom, give me no fucking gun, nigga, you got some money too, go by your own fucking gun.

And I remember taking up.

I went and bought my own gun.

So that became my mentality.

That lesson is a lesson that I took with me, let alone for a blast somebody who you know, not saying.

I didn't look at him like a I didn't look at him like a punk or nothing, but like you not street, you know what I'm saying, Like, and you're not street, Like you don't give me street.

I mean you you give me like you may not be a buster or you may not you know, you may not be like you know whatever, but popping somebody is different.

Yeah.

So yeah, asking me for a gun was just crazy.

You know.

It's like being mad that I didn't give you the gun is even more crazy.

Yeah, I think with the.

With the what I caught from it though, was the fact that you didn't want to You didn't want to give him the gun to go get another black man though.

Me.

Yeah, that bothered me too that it sounded you got to where we're from, like it is very few white people and I mean very few, like to.

Like that's Compton and wats that's both places.

Like I got one homeboy named Snow from the seven like, and then I got another white man that I know of that that I don't even know, like you know what I mean.

That's how many white people.

Like he like a like a legend in the name of gang banging, but you don't really know him, you know what I'm saying.

Those the only two white people.

I know, you know what I mean, like that that be around us.

So then like Laddie was like, you know that shit just sounded crazy, Like what give you a gunna do?

What?

You know what I mean?

And I'm thinking, like, I got it.

I can hear the emotions.

Obviously he was crying.

I can hear the emotions, right, I get it.

But it's like, first off, I gotta protect you from yourself too.

I'm offering you to come.

I mean, I'm offering you to come, and uh like I'm I'm gonna make you get a fair one with Homie.

So you're offering to go with.

Him, I'm like, technically, come over there and make sure you can fight the dude head up, you know what I mean, Like you trying to come get a burner, like this is serious.

I'm like, I'm not giving you no fucking gun.

That's just a lot, you know, I mean the context of what happened, who was involved.

And remember remember like this is sister you know he dating.

Oh yeah, so it's like, oh, I guess an, I'm feel to give you a gun to pop up.

Brother.

I just that's just not a confident watch thing to do.

I get it.

I know read I nigga said tell me all the time about gang banging and klu Klux Klan and all this.

Oh shit, it ain't that type of party, you know what I mean, Like you could have a problem, but I'm not helping.

No, you know, no white man do something too.

That's just crazy under no.

You know what I mean.

No, like nothing like.

Even when my homeboys Snow, Like when Snow we would walk to the Pj's and Snow would get into it with this nigga from PJ Crip and Snow had to fight every We're not finna help you fight this black man like you gotta fight him and fighting yourself, you know.

What I mean.

Like so I don't know, man, it's just they got worse and worse and now to the point like if somebody bring up my name feel me.

It's like.

Somebody bring up my name is like you know, I can see that this thing like I can see it's like you know what I mean?

And so when we do tupac mus digter, ho'my recommend like the homie that know what happened homi.

He's from Central California.

He's from the coast of Central California, and he knew what happened in real time.

And he brought up to me like, hey man, like, why why you won't do blad for this two part?

Months died?

And I'm like, and I ain't even talked to Black and wow.

You I mean I didn't even think to do the show.

Yeah, and I never thought about it.

I didn't think he was mad or nothing.

Still, I just hadn't talked to him.

I'm thinking we just hadn't talked.

That's when I realized back in twenty nineteen that he was still mad at me.

This is why I haven't talked to him.

Was a response to, how'd you know what happened?

He said, He's still mad.

You didn't give him that gun?

Oh wow?

Still like shit?

Ok?

He told he told me that ship.

Yes, wow, cause it's me because I remember talk about this.

Was I just tripping no other.

People about it on band from Blad, on me on Black TV, but like Nick Cannon brought it up.

Different people brought it up, but he would never And then I realized, like between different people trying to talk to him, like oh, like this nigga really mad at me.

And I'm like, Nigga, this is almost twenty years ago, read like, why are.

You still mad?

Like Charlotta Mane was just on this platform the other day and he was like, man, my boy glasses and just to I was like.

He went over that.

You listen, he went over that shit.

So Glad, hey, Glass, I said, this is crazy.

Timer right now, I said, cause Charlamagne up on Blad right now, said I'm about to watch it.

So I watched him.

It's like ten minutes into the interview.

Ten minutes into the interview, you know what I'm saying, Glad ask him something about blacks.

Charlamagne s something about Drake and he mentioned he mentions black my man glassing alone, this that and that like that.

Yo.

When I tell you, Glass flew over that shit so fast.

Ain't even like he flew over like if he ain't even hear Glass's name mentioned bro word and he wanted to get into that conversation too, And it's.

Like so crazy to me, like damn, like nigga, like we but shit, you know, and is what it is at this point.

So I just I just accepted it for what it was, and then I knew it was like more serious than I thought, like not serious, like it's a danger, but like like damn, So I just always want was I wrong?

So like only me and you know this, yes, because in my mind, I'm like, it's no chance I was wrong.

Nigga, I'm not giving you no gun.

You didn't know you did a smart thing.

So but I'm asking what is he mad at?

Still the wh what is he standing on to be upset?

Because I think he might be upset because he just opened hisself up to you and was crying and you said, oh, that was king, But that's like he feel embarrassed and you feel all that.

You know how people get him.

For fucking fifteen fucking years, there's eighteen nineteen years.

You just let his secret out.

Harry probably forgotten you don't talk about it.

People forget you know.

And so nobody knew that that was only between me and him back then.

Everybody knows.

Well now it's the reason for him to be mad.

But now it makes sense if he never talks to me again.

Like now it's like I'm okay with him, but you know, maybe you know, you don't know, maybe he'd be like man glasses.

You know, he had caught me, like we need to have this conversation because I need to vent with you and tell you what I feel and what's wrong.

Well, he had a couple of weeks to do it because you've been talking about it coming up ban from BLAD, so he had a chance.

You know, I ain't been talking about I didn't talk about it publicly, but you said it was coming out.

I didn't say that publicly.

You did.

They don't know?

And was you playing off band from TV?

Like we band from TV?

The song for sure?

For sure ain't okay, I just know not.

The song after song after song, the actual the actual tapes used to come out and the song okay, all right, a.

Couple of things until I do my time trap.

I heard about him when I was younger, but I got them crazy tapes.

But I ain't I ain't never seen them, but yeah, those two things.

I was gonna mention that as well.

Really, he was already kind of coming around like not like hanging out where we're from, but like, remember, everybody at that time was going on Brazil.

Everybody was coming to count for the Chuck Gang was the hottest NIGG in the world.

So the guy would.

Come on Brazil, feel me to the tobacco.

M hey, hold on time out that whole situation.

Yeah, he flipped a little bit, he said, he said, he said, I'm signed to doctor Dre and not gu Nick.

I remember all of them joints, Like, I never forget when we for like a week I was, I was rolling a game.

It was it was I can never.

Forget that whole campaign he was doing at that time, though, Man, he can't.

He came out to Jamaica.

He came out to Jamaica Avenue b with a life size rant.

It was.

It was on Jamaica Avenue screaming gu and not that ship was that was crazy man.

Oh but yeah, it's like so everybody was already That's how I missed schiming him.

Everybody was coming to Brazil and confor we hang I'm over there all the time, so I'm meeting people and it's like.

That's it.

Black was a cool dude.

Don't like he was cool like he a bit over the top down.

Back then he was a way cooler dude like he was he was, he was carrying himself a little bit more street.

But now I think he knows it, even though sometimes he very much talked like the Godfather now when he be talking father and sh but like then, you know what I mean, he was way more cooler.

He just acted a little bit more like thuggery.

You think that he's he's been removed from from from that type of you know what I'm saying, surroundings and being around people like that that is you know what I'm saying, or either it was never just really him though you know what I'm saying.

I don't tell you.

I don't think.

So this is the thing, like you people that grew up in the Bay, the Bay is a little bit more morti cultural when it comes to inner the inner city than Compton and watch, like you'll meet Asian people, white people.

They grew up the same way that that black folk grew up in the ghetto there.

Gill me some Asian folks, some white folks, from Indian folks, all kinds of people who grew up with the brothers and the ghettos of the Bay.

It ain't like that in wahing Counter.

So I think at that time I knew he was from the Bay.

He had came through the base, so I was like, okay, well that's kind of where he got his little kind of how you carry yourself.

But I don't think I ever thought of two seconds that, like he was a participant, like in all the silly shit.

I want to ask you a question.

This is this is going to be asked because it's been a major question upon them picking out people and everything like that.

Is Glad hip hop?

No, okay a journalists.

No, Lad is an entertainer.

Cloud is like a rapper.

He's entertainer.

Yeah, Lad got a TV show.

He's a rapper, but he's not hip hop.

Yeah yeah, he's he he uses street urban culture to entertain but he's not a hip hop artist like he.

I don't I don't think it's fair to say he grew up culturally through street urban culture.

I grew up.

I think he.

I think he's adjacent to the culture.

I think he I think he saw up close and personal for a while, but I don't think he was raised in.

It enough for it to adopt it and be his own.

Do he sound like it right now?

When he talked, who's to me?

It's like a racist white boy than me.

Oh, man, I'm not getting them.

Come on, man, I'm not doing that.

It's crazy, that's what I see.

I'm not putting that, man, I'm not.

I see through all that bled cool man he looked out.

I want to know why you're not a fan though, or make you not be a fan of him his interviewing skills, Like what don't you like.

About I'm kind of closer to what what's what's what's what's kind of yeah, King, I'm more closer to you because you know, as I've grown up.

Man, I'm really like glasses with it.

Like I'll stop watching him when the whole Lord Jamar rra Khan thing blew up, because I just think I started seeing a pattern in the way he was using the culture.

He's tried to position himself like like last he said, he tried to position himself like he's the boss, so like he's some godfather, Like you know, I did that master.

Called it slave master.

Not not quite a slave master.

Like that, but he makes it seem like he is a really important figure more so than he sometimes over talked at the interviewee like sometimes he overtalked them and put his own thing on it.

So when all the dialogue start popping, I'm going with us, like that's just how I Once I get a different and I hear like him going through it with Joe Budden, him going through it with this person, God Free, this person, that person, and I really revealed these people in the culture.

I'm like, I gotta, I gotta stop.

So I stopped watching the clips.

I got them blocked on YouTube, and I feel like my generation gotta start making that distinction because there's other we got out of Dotlogue.

We got Glasses Channel, we got multiple channels of us, and so I think we gotta start supporting us.

So this is when you did this, I was like, oh, this is perfect because I really don't like blad like and I don't care what relationships I get or don't get because I think that trap Lord Raw's blad Adam twenty two I do.

I don't watch that stuff because it's is it feel usury you feel like they usually No.

No, I'm kind of getting I'm kind of getting from you that you don't like white journalists on hip hop though, what it is, I'm just asking.

I'm just asking a question because people you name, I don't.

I don't know if those guys are journalists because I don't I don't think they're journalists.

Jeremy Heck, Rob Mark, Jeremy is a journalist is like a journalist.

Is a brother.

Though.

A journalist is somebody who kind of just documents what's happening.

Lad Adam and Trap, they're like they're like personalities.

They're kind of journalist journalist but no, no, he leans.

There, but no, he's still a personality too.

So like like once you start making conclusions, like you become a part of the entertainment, like become up, like you become like a journalist is somebody that just reports the story.

But then when you see people become a part of the entertainment, they're entertainers.

I was telling my homies that I was telling my homies the whole fig munity world.

I'm like, y'all not journal this, y'all like rappers, I mean, streamers are rappers.

Like academics is not a journalist, he's a rapper.

I'm I'm a journalist.

Keep my personal bias he is.

I keep is different.

They like that makes sense though, Like a journalist is somebody who just documents what's happening when you Once you get from.

Traplott Rosstuf, like I understand the point of entertainment within within the accent and everything like that.

Though, But he he what he does to really deep dive into like the whatever whatever he's talking about, he does a deep dive into it, you know what I'm saying to to really get the you know what I'm saying that the research that he done, and he done picked up.

All of them do that.

I think all of them do that.

Well that that's listen, okay.

I see the movement amongst brothers where they like looking at them like you know how they see them, like how read is saying.

I get it.

The thing I respect and I understand that they see is the value in street urban culture.

Like that's the thing that I can't get us to understand.

People that come from it.

We do not see the value in it because it's so second nature to us.

It's nothing.

It's like how Glenn Bell saw the value in tacos, you know what I mean?

And he was like, you know what, Glenn Bell is the person who may Taco Bell?

Is that the person may Taco Bell.

Wow, I never you see your research, you'll be doing be crazy.

I never knew that.

I never knew that, Glenn Bell.

Why is that body that I know that story for time now that they can tell who owns it?

Because I'm saying sharing them to Glenn Bell, right, somebody that understands the value of culture even though they not involved of it, and then they extort it with kind of this digestible version of.

It for the not the country.

That's dope because just what two or three podcasts ago y'all was talking about tacos.

And that's a fact.

It was no but it was no reason to pro he had that in his back pocket.

In his back pocket, Glenn Study what back you?

God?

Okay, I figured out I figured out.

No, I figured out who going to mac And that's all at the same time.

Okay, if we're talking to Who'dy's dad started at KFC, I didn't know.

Yeah, Okay, Colonel Feels is.

A real dude.

Yes, he's not a real colonel.

But he yes, I know where his first shop was.

It was in Utah.

You know, the first CAFC was in Utah, So I know history.

I always knew who he was, always knew who he was.

Like I'm saying, in discomparison with those three dudes, they see the value in something culturally that's the ship, and they like, I'm finna build some off for that now.

Is it vulturous?

I don't know.

It feels like it.

I can respect that.

I can respect that.

I can't say yes or no.

But as I'm growing into my manhood, is when you start positioning yourself like you bigger than the program you said it, he gonna one day start positioning himself like he bigger than the program.

And that's I see with Bladd is that he positioned himself like he's bigger than the culture itself.

And he started when he did the whole thing with Marlon Wayne's Yeah, yeah, just certain things that I love Dwayne Brothers.

I love Marlon Is that dude, like he's he's been around for so long six Man six, all these different movie I had to remember, like hold On Walton been around for many before, like he had many so when Blad tried to do that, I was just like, see, this is why I stopped watching him because and this was crazy.

Was crazy to me.

Okay, I get it.

If and then seeing something i'll critigue, lad, I get it if you know what.

You was like, Man, that's too much money.

You don't say nothing, You're like, you know what, I ain't gonna do this.

It's nigga tripping.

But then like I watched him sit down and just say the other day that uh Takashi asked for way more money and he paid him.

Yes, Now I get why.

Now whether I agree or not is unimportant because it's also a different value in YouTube clicks views that's worth a lot of money.

But if it's just business, then why even blow home Me out and try to you know?

And he apologize, So I don't want to make too much of it.

But why are you try to blow home Me out if it's just business?

I didn't know he was paying for interviews?

Can I get a little recap on with him?

Though?

So he wanted Marlon to do Blad TV, and Marlon told him he wanted so much money and a and a percentage cut of the videos.

It was like twenty thousand or like a ten percent, fifteen percent because something like that.

Don't know whatever it was.

Yeah, I don't want to try to figureut the numbers, but it was it wasn't something crazy.

I mean, who am I to say?

I don't know I vlad bens on Nomber.

I'm just saying it is Marlon Wayans who makes means and means.

It means, it means, it means of dollars per film.

You know what I mean.

He been making means and means and it means of dollars per film since the nineties.

So if he come and ask you for you know, ten thousand, twenty thirty, forty thousand dollars, now, I'm not saying you should do it.

I'm just saying he's not asking for something crazy like if.

Marlon Wayans, if Denzel say, hey, glasses to get on no ceilings, I want forty thousand dollars Like I wouldn't consider that, and not to compare Moreland in jail.

But I'm just saying, this is how long this brother been making money in his business.

It's thirty plus years.

So it's like, okay, if you not gonna fuck with him, cool, just let it go.

But when you start to airing him out, like he's not worth it, right, And then so it's like, Okay, I get it, you compared this YouTube number, but that still sound like a private conversation.

And that's where I was saying, like in in the song and banfot Flat TV, I was like, I could see that in two thousand and six.

I can see that attitude back then.

I could see the the whole energy back then.

I can see the whole energy back then where it was like, oh, this nigga gonna be crazy, you know what I'm saying.

Like even when him, you know, even when him and Ross got into it, because he kind of air Ross out on that whole shit, right, Like he put that ship out there about homie, you know, having that job.

Oh, but to see yeah yeah yeah.

So it's like so it's like and when they was popping it, they was popping it online, he was popping it back.

I'm like, oh shit, they you know, I'm thinking to myself like, damn, maybe I should have gave you the girl like he on this type of time.

And when the fight happened, it was like, man, I knew he was gonna lay eg he laid the egg.

He didn't even try it.

So it's like, you know what I'm saying, It was like damn, so like that's my issue, is like and that's where he's at now, like where he like he he And don't be wrong, I'm glad it's working in celebrity, like the bad bunny thing like you know, oh you know you don't speak English like bro chill fool, Like why like you know what I mean, Like you know a lot of people in this he speak Spanish.

It ain't like English is the primary language.

And I see why I feel the way I feel the things he'd been doing and saying and acting man like.

Yeh, it's not like you know what I mean?

And I noticed what he's doing and I see him working in celebrity.

But it's like, but I could see this person a long time ago.

And let me just say lessons.

I don't want to take anything away from his work ethic, because the man did create a formula for YouTube.

Everybody in the copy the former, a lot of people that broke broke they interview up into thirty thousand pieces like he do.

So I'm not taking away anything from his his work ethic and what he does on the business sense, because it's immaculate.

You can't you can't touch that.

But like you said, with these personal little things that make me see his character.

You know, business is business.

But when you when your characters that way and I feel like you a guest in the culture, it's like I don't I don't have to.

I don't have to click like me.

I'm a super fan.

You feel me.

You everybody know that.

That's one thing about my channel.

I talk about Ja Cole, but I can show you I got all his vinyls.

You know what I'm saying, Like I put my money where my mouth is if I want to support.

But I'm also the same way on the other if I feel as though I don't like you or like you're you ain't righteous, and I ain't gonna say it like righteous, like I'm some short.

But if I feel as though you have ill intentions, I'm not gonna click because that's my power.

You know what I mean, My power ain't.

I ain't gonna stop you, ain't the monkey, don't stop the show.

But I know that you're not gonna get my advertisement dollars.

You're not gonna get my view money.

You ain't getting my views because why would you?

You know what I'm saying.

Oh, that's kind of my thing with it, and I'm glad I did this because I think the people need to hear it.

You know.

No, So.

Like I don't watch I watched lad interviews out comment when he said something like he just said something back to me.

Yeah if I if I'm interested, and he said.

Something back to you, sure.

She'll talk to you online, but won't talk to you in person.

No, No, you ain't gonna talk to me because it's different man, like characters the truth is, but it's not.

It's not okay, it's only character.

You have expectations for somebody, Like I kind of believe I know who Blad was.

And maybe this is wrong, but I kind of already have an idea who people are.

You know what I'm saying.

So it's like, am I surprised that that happened?

No, I'm not even tripping you feel me?

Like my thing is, I don't lose nothing by not going on lad TV.

Don't get me wrong.

That's not to shoot his platform down, like he has an amazing situation going good stuff, great stuff.

Come on, man, Like, you know what I mean like I go on Fox News, you know, breakfast club, I go go drink chaps like it's brothers that guy.

You know what I mean.

It's enough stuff to where it's like I don't feel like he's holding me back.

Yeah, but I'll be honest, I.

Did think we were friends.

I did think we were friends.

That's true.

And I learned real fast that you're not.

Yeah, that we ain't that type of friend or however he treated his friends.

Yeah, because I mean I had told some of my friends, no, it ain't never was like cut me off like or talk to you.

You know what I mean, Like when Pluck told me no, I ain't gonna give you no pistol, I didn't be like I'm not talking to you ever again.

And it just you know what I mean, I got the message.

I respected it.

So it's like you told me no, I couldn't have no grapes trap.

I never told you.

Yeah, I never told you know that I should just quick talking to him the man.

I never told you no, but yeah, so it's like it's like, yeah, man, it was so you know, somebody asked me, what was.

What did I What did I expect?

I said, the perfect world Lader called me, cussed me out and say, you know, we'll figure it out and come sit down on my shoulder.

We just had a conversation and.

Be friends again.

I don't know if we're gonna be friends because I don't think he'll ever Is.

That what you want to be friends again?

No, I don't want to be nobody's friend.

Okay, just as I got you, I don't think I've ever met a person I want to be their friend, like either we have a synergy like read like, either either I vibe with you or I don't.

And it ain't nothing personal like that.

Don't mean I can't do business with you, you know what I mean.

But it's like I feel like that would be a way to deal with it as a man, like you know, you sit down and I understood why he feels this way.

Now, a regular human being will call him or text him and say, man, hey, I want to sit down and talk with you because I feel this way about this situation.

But because Glasses Loca is an artist, you know what I'm saying, I'm going to put it in my music, and it just happens to be in front of everybody, and it's a value to it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not playing dumb like it's a value to people learning about this story.

But it's still just about how great I am as a storyteller.

Like that's my goal to keep getting better, to keep pushing the boundaries of making reardings for people and to entertain them, you know what I mean?

And you know whatever, the worst thing comes out is black cussing me out, trying to blackball me every week trying to assume the best thing in the world is Blad calls me and cusses me out and say, man, you know we have a conversation, said man comes in on blat TV.

Let me cuss you out in front of everybody else, and then I could make sense to you why I feel this way.

Hey, trap, When that nigga told Glasses, I don't fuck with you Gases, like what.

It was surprising because I forgot about it.

I was like, the fuck I do the fla that nigga starts, you forgot about it?

Like shit?

It was like, really, this motherfucking that made all these mellis and dollars read.

I'm like, you should have thrown your life away.

I saved you, Like what I had a similar situation like that.

Right was I was moving out.

I was moving back to where i'd that now, and I had needed my young boy to to help me move out.

And I was about to call him, but he called me, right he called me.

He you know, he didn't been to They call it Alvin is Glenn.

If you look up Alvin is Glenn.

That's like the Youth of Detention Center.

So he's one of those.

He didn't been there, out of there, and I'm trying to you know, I'm trying to get up, get him right, you know, let him cut my yard and stuff like that.

And so he called me.

I literally about to call and call me, yoh d I need to So I said, well, come meet me here because I need you to help me move.

And so we talk about it and I'm like, yo, this is legal.

I can't just give you my legal firearm.

It's gonna come back to me.

You know what I'm saying, Like this is we can't do that.

You know what I'm saying, I get it.

And I think they ran in his brother house, jumped his brother.

He young, he want to go wild out with your registered phone.

So I'm like, you can't do that.

So we move and I'm talking them off because he just got a nice little shorty.

He just moved into our house.

You know, I've been trying to like get him to you know what I'm saying.

He was running in with houses still in the high phone.

Can I you know he's doing those things all my my car broke down, Like can I use your phone?

He was running off, so he you know, he got caught up whatever, and so I was basically trying to tell him like, like this is dumb, Like we could go over there.

Similar like we could go over there.

I can let you get the fair one if things go crazy.

Hey, you know what I'm saying, because the stany Iniear ground state we could do, you know.

So I kind of try to talk him off.

But then, you know, as the day went on, we moving, you know, I ain't have much to move, and he like, man, you know what, you're right.

I'm like, man, you got a beautiful girl.

You're young.

He was a little younger than me.

I'm like, bro, you smart, you just like I was.

You not a pump, but this ain't you.

You know what I'm saying, Like you not a pump, but this ain't you.

So just go to your girl house and leave it alone.

He's still with his girl to this day.

He doing well.

I think he got a CDL or something like that, you know what I mean, Like basically changed his life.

How we did that, we could have changed both of our lives.

And that's how I felt about flat.

It was like fool, Like I saved your life.

You go over there and even play with that.

Somebody might make you use that your life where and you for sure tell so now I'm gonna throw my life away.

Like so it's like in my mind like that would be the conversation.

But this is also the same person, you know, and I'm not talking shit.

Took him years to apologize the fucking fair con He was flat out wrong and just didn't want to apologize.

So cuz can't be stubborn, you know what I'm saying.

So he's been seventeen years stubborn with me, like, and I just don't understand it, Like, nigga, what is you that mad about?

Like?

Cool?

What I gotta tell my homieyo, yo, I told you I told the story on with glasses, you know what I mean?

And check like so then he goes on right and he sues Rose and then he gets the money to launch this MORETI, this eight figure platform nigga from suing the nigga over kicking your ass woo, and you was whooping back and forth to see I look at way, you know what I'm saying.

So it's like, so that's what I don't get.

I just again, man, Sometimes it's like that, Like it's a lot of people that I met in my life that that's mad at me for some reason.

And you know, at the end of the day, like sometimes I feel like, damn, you know, I still got my first friend.

Read shout out to Jaboy Washington that niggas my first friend.

That's like my first friend.

I've been that nigga.

We've been friends for forty years.

That's my first friend.

Like that, So I judge my character based off that.

How old are my oldest friends.

I got friends that I met, you know, twenty years ago, and I got friends I met, you know, fourteen years ago.

I got friends that I met my first friend I got.

My first few friends were still friends now my homeboys we all homies, now what I mean.

So I try my best to protect my people that I consider friends.

If glad is somebody I consider the friend.

It's like homie, Like niggas, you're about to.

Have a mental breakdown over why you don't understand why no no, no, no, no no no.

I'm not going because I'm already honestly, I'm past it.

I'm past why.

You're right, you don't understand.

Like dude, I tried to help you, like think back twenty years.

I did get now, like I did the right thing.

Okay, I thought he should have thought that when with the Walls once that with Ross and you was pointing niggas out and you sued niggas.

I thought you to say to yourself like man Glass told me, I wasn't built like this.

But it was like now you mad that you realize you're not like this and this fucked g.

My thing is right.

When I realized that you said this, you said, y'all kind of popped at the same time, right, And I feel like from what you're saying, from what I hear from you, is that you you you hip hop saved your life and you grew into maturity.

But I feel like with guys like Vlad, it's very similar to you know, Aubrey, where the bigger, the bigger they get, they don't get humble because they're not from this, They're not nowhere and even close to it.

They actually get a little bit more egotistical.

Do you do you think that's what happened with Vlad?

Because what I'm hearing is that Blad really probably started being this person when he was around you.

You get what I'm saying.

Like, and not to say directly you, but this is my only intro into old Lad.

You know, as far as like he will, he rocked with you enough to where he'll call you.

You get what I'm saying.

Actually, So do you think that's what happened to him?

He just his head just got big.

I think it is that, you know what I mean.

I think it's a pursuit of cool, you know what I'm saying, And you know, with with some people finding the level.

Look, I heard him called Godfrey a punk the other day and I was like, you got a bodyguard, you can't call somebody.

He said he ran into Godfrey and he said he wanted to talk to him, and Godfrey He's like, all right, whatever, and just kept going.

And he said Godfrey had a pistol and it's like he said, oh, he's just a punk.

And I'm like, Nigga, you got a bodyguard, like I know, you don't try to squabble cause like like so, I think I think the money makes him a little like money made people a little delusional, like they start whining they own jazz, you know what I'm saying.

And that's what's happening with Drake.

Whereas like you think, because you got some money now you just everybody's just gone.

Boy, some of us can still see the punkin you like it, and it don't.

Everybody not scared.

Everybody ain't scared of no money.

Everybody ain't scared of nothing.

Like you could pay somebody over here, you gonna get them hurt, you know what I'm saying.

It's just it's different.

So it's like I do think as they gain following, they start to feel like, I don't know, he he postures a weird way now, like I mean, but it's always been flast I think the baby he came with that mentality from up top.

I think he came down here with that.

But obviously you you be in the center comfort the watch.

You can't act like that with us because no, you'll be fooled.

But I think they do think they're smarter than a little bit.

I mean, I don't know, but I'm just said I think of his situation, I think so, I think get outside.

I think in his situation it was more or less like yeah, I think the money kind of made him feel a lot of other things that maybe he would.

Have felt before.

Because that's what I was getting.

I'm like, man, last seemed like he was in DC.

It seemed like he he kind of tried you, you know what I mean, like, oh, you know what you said?

Why would you?

Why would you insinuate that I'm.

Listen he was talking.

I'm telling you, I was listening this nigga like, nigga, what and never tell I never snitched?

And that's like, then you just gonna pay this snitch more money than you paid anybody else to do an interview.

That's the fact, like where we're from, and I get it.

That's why you that's why you're doing so well with business because your moral compass don't hold you back on this type of I wouldn't talk to six six nine, couldn't pay me a million dollars to talk to him real now, let alone pay him to be on my Channel six nine couldn't pay me a million dollars to sit down and do an interview with him?

Like what the fuck would I talk to you about?

There's only one thing we need to talk about.

How you gonna kill yourself.

That's the only thing I want to know.

How you're gonna kill yourself.

You should be a shame of yourself.

Like how do you look at your face?

How you look at your parents in the face?

How do you you know that's all a masking?

Like how do you look at these people in the face?

How do you know you ruin these people?

Like how do you know that you couldn't be a man?

Like when you put like you know, like we wouldn't even have a good conversation.

We might as well just fight, you know what I mean?

Like what are we gonna talk about?

So with it?

I think when anybody sits down with him, though they don't ask him the real questions though, anytime that happens like that, you know what I'm saying, like like like where's your mind at right now?

What you did to these people when took people away from their kids and their family and anything like that?

Though, you know what I'm saying, Like how you feel about they don't asking those quests.

They ask him the questions that he that he I think it comes with the questions for them to ask them basically in times though when he doesn't interview.

So I just don't watch him though, So I don't know.

I just think I just think part of it is black just don't care.

Yeah, black can't ask those questions, don't.

Like what does Jagle look like asking another nigga about telling because he mean so like and that's the thing, Like he carried himself when I first met him, like he wasn't no civilian, that was his whole thing.

Like he was on some timing and it was like ogous, see right, Like I knew you wasn't on no timing.

I mean, but that's how you presenting yourself.

My favorite line on song glasses, I was right as black blood rags up was right as blood.

This reference.

He not streaming at least and Broly check it.

Now.

People think you police well not me, niggas telling them theyselves, But you got to understand these is feeling, These are fellas chasing.

Well, So please don't use this like a tool, you know what I mean?

Like and and.

Like I put the burden of oners on us, But I understand also when you're trying to become something.

It's like, I don't put the burden of new gang banging on people that want to be gags.

I understand why people want to be from gangs.

Who the fuck wouldn't want to get an army on command, Who wouldn't want to get a level of respect by just saying you're affiliated.

Who wouldn't want to get access to earning money in the streets with a team of people, who wouldn't want this type of social currency to be a part of this group.

I get why, even when you too stupid to realize your life is that you know is in jeopardy from doing it because it seems like such a short sighted idea, you want that social currency.

I put the on this of responsibility on the game.

Why do you want this nigga?

Why would you let this nigga inherit the power of this army, the the power of this army, the social currency for him?

Nack like he one of us.

So we go tell a bench and get some pussy because she thinks he a truper.

This nigga's a pump.

The whole time.

So I feel like that even with Vladd, it's like, I mean, I could put the on this, I could put responsibility on bla Blad, don't you.

But it's like he making money.

I get why, but he not if he's not paying all of them people, you know what I mean?

Like, now, if he's paying you, man, do your thing.

But if you just doing the interview with Lad because of like you're trying to be popular, that's a different conversation.

I mean you're talking about somebody sitting down with Bladd and telling their story the Blad.

What's the what won't be the reason if somebody want to do.

That is what?

No.

I get why, I get why.

I understand what it could do for you, But why are you doing it for free?

Okay?

Yeah, I mean like why for free?

Like I say all the time, I tell the homers all the time, somebody want to be from the set that they have to pay dues?

Yeah, like you know what I mean, Like, well, dang't got no job.

They shouldn't be gang banging.

They need to go find a job.

They got three priorities.

Fucked up the hustling they should be doing.

You ain't got nothing you can't afford thirty six dollars a month or something.

It's crazy.

You're gonna get that.

Charity can go door to door.

Go get on the go, get on g R, go, get on General Relief.

Give us a fifth for the check.

You know what I'm saying.

You get to climb the fame of a of a game.

I've been telling a gang member this for a while.

We should be charging people to be down.

If you didn't grow up in the neighborhood, Like, if you didn't grow up on this street in this neighborhood, you not family members with people, You not born into this.

Man, it should be a you should have to pay money and yo yo.

Shit should only be if it's in good standing.

Don't pay.

But you must have hands, I mean at least.

But I get it if you put on somebody that got hands, because now you got a squabbler, Yeah, you got squabbling.

I mean, but they be putting on straight people that you gotta make tough.

You ain't saw good.

Yeah, but that's like if you're a ride, if you're a truth or I get why they put you on.

You you gain another infantry man.

If you a baller, you gained somebody that's making money.

If you put on a squabbler, you goat somebody got some mans.

Why are you putting on little Tim over there?

Tim, here's a more work, not like hey, but Tim is like a project.

Why are you taking on project?

Why are gangs in twenty twenty five taken on projects?

It's number.

Man?

How are you taking on?

You gotta turn You gotta make him tough.

Shout out to my homies that made me tough.

But at least they knew me since I was a little kid, so they could push the right.

Buddies.

How do you push this man but you don't even know him.

Now you gotta make him tough.

I guess hard making people tough.

It's hard making people stand up.

Shout out to pluck, Shout out to man, Shout out to Boo, Shout out the moon, Shout out to all my whole tone, all the people that made me who I am when it comes to street life.

They worked shady.

I was a project, but at least they knew me since a little kid.

Trapped man, you know what I mean.

So it was like a project.

They saw growing up and they knew how to motivate me.

They knew how far they can go because they know my parents.

It was a way they treated me.

But if you don't know, Look Tim, Tim, why why Tim should be just paying?

It should be a program, like you want people to make you something, you should pay for a monthly.

But Tim come from the suburban area too.

He said, Tim should have to pay.

Tim, go to your mom, get a check.

At least be moving something in the suburbs.

At least being something some pills of South just be you know, freak.

That's how I feel like.

So when people sit down with Ladam, like y'all should all be getting paid.

Now if you're a new artist and this part of your campaign, totally understand it.

But like it be street niggas.

It'd be like look Jojo from seventy seventy seven, seventy sixth Street, seventy eighth Street.

You know, look Jojo that got out and he did thirteen bodies in it, and you sit up here on this man show talk about you know, yeah I strangled him because you know he did.

Why are you this is they pay?

These women are snapped for this.

Go to snapped, you know what I mean?

Get some point like no, you're right, but they want their story to be heard though.

Man, that's what we need to make a snap for game bankers.

That's a fact.

It's just the game baker.

Yeah, this nigga told me my little so I just grabbed a pistol.

Once niggas do their time, and then everybody just tell the story how they got into it.

It be snapped for crips.

Snapped what you want to Lad might not mess with you because of the song.

It might because it isn't read my Yeah, he's done.

I have a vision that I think that I think what comes out of this right now, you're gonna definitely gonna sit down with But I told you.

That I think he's gonna call me cuss me out.

Because you're gonna have to tell this part of the story.

No, no, I try the visuals.

I ain't show read the vision.

That's what I'm saying.

You're gonna be visuals.

Yeah, yeah, different kinds of visions.

Because you how.

But what I'm saying is okay, me and Trap, this is what we think is lappen.

We go speaking the fruition, then we out here.

He gonna call me and cuts me out.

He gonna say that I should have called him and I was out of line and why I didn't call him if if if, if I knew he was mad, and da da da, And i'mna be like, bro, I talked to you multiple times, like we didn't text, and I didn't even know you was mad.

So like, I'm you're not telling me you upset, like you told Stretch, you told the hummy to me, you ain't talking to me.

And I think we're gonna talk and I think we may resolve it for me and then we'll have a conversation then show.

Yeah, what's most likely gonna happen is he finish cussed me out publicly, you know what I mean.

A couple brothers that probably shouldn't be trying to stand up for him, might find himself doing stuff try to disrespect me to stand that.

For him, which is gonna be the worst feeling in the world, you know what I'm saying.

So I think that's kind of what I lean towards happening, because I think it would take a different energy to be like, let me have a conversation with somebody I work with.

Mm hmm.

He's definitely going You're definitely gonna have a sit down definitely gonna have a sit down.

You're gonna tell his side of the story.

You're gonna tell you know what I'm saying.

You already told your side.

No, it's nothing.

That's the truth.

It's the truth.

You know what I'm saying.

It ain't no side.

That's the truth.

And he's gonna say not to know.

I just it's if nothing else I would like to know.

Am I wrong?

You wrong?

That's all you want to know.

I told you, I told you that told you wasn't wrong.

I understand why because he ain't wrong, you are wrong?

Is right?

It's a blood right, right, right, right, it's a blood right.

Let's go easy.

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