Episode Transcript
Imagine, if you will, that you are in a place of great beauty.
Some teenage boys walk past you, they yell out, they bitch tits.
The world you see is a place of paradox of beauty and cruelty.
It will cut you off with the knees, then gift you a pair of easies.
And that, my friends, is why you always always need a buck up.
Speaker 2Go back, ba ba ba ba a bat about about bad.
Speaker 3Hey, Caitlin Brokeray, Hello.
Speaker 1Nate Malvo, I love you, I love you.
Oh did you dye your hair?
No?
Why does it look different?
Speaker 3Yeah, it's got.
Speaker 1It's a little bit like a tortoise shell cat.
Oh, you know, it's got.
It's got some dark bits and some light bits, you know.
And I'm looking very I'm looking like a ferrul shell cat.
Speaker 3Very quickly on cats.
Kate lain Brook, Hello, welcome to the buck up.
Speaker 1Thank you.
Speaker 3I don't know what you're supposed to do when a cat chooses your house to hang out at.
Speaker 1Oh my goodness, we know.
Speaker 3Well, no, I know your friend like it was to the point where this one does leave.
But it seems to like a particular window.
Yes with me, Yeah, I'm a laptop yeah, what do I do?
Speaker 1You do?
I engage?
Yes, you just accept it and you take the blessing of the cat.
Speaker 3I can't take the cat off whoever.
Speaker 1No, no, you just let the cat.
The cat will come and go.
You know they're saying, no dogs have masters, cats have staff you.
Oh, I want to come back as a cat.
Yes, you're one hundred percent of cat, a huge cat.
Oh my god, Yes you're a pussy cat.
Speaker 3Oh thank you.
Speaker 1I'll go around showing people you don't.
You know they have cats do that?
They really do, really know who's going on?
Cat?
They have no discretion.
Speaker 3Ever say this.
I'm blame victims, but what are you thinking?
Speaker 1They just so what are you wearing?
Okay, I'm going to say this about cats, say it go on, hat, save space, don't give a f And they have to make it so clear to you, like a lot of people operate on that principle.
We do, but they don't.
Society is exhausting case.
Most of us have learnt to hide that we don't.
Speaker 3Hey, this week's buck up message.
Get out there, show your dots, show a cat.
Speaker 1Not loud and proud.
And also they love nothing more.
But you know what they do that padding thing and then pressing and leading.
Yeah, they love nothing more than to do it on your pillow when you're in bed.
Okay, dot adjacent adjacent?
Speaker 3I love it, and what's going on cat lovers?
Speaker 1But also might I say it's pristine the dot Yeah, whereas with dogs someone's looking look, don't avoid My whole point is that you can't avoid it.
I've never long and as it's Christine or not, because of course, stop pretending.
Stop pretending love.
The people that message us who reckon they've never floss their teeth with they can get you're an idiot.
It was one of the comments.
Speaker 3No, you're an idiot.
Speaker 4On the testosterone Listen to her little girly gig.
Speaker 1She's really a friend.
Did it recognize you?
For bid the world's greatest producer raging testoster say the word open minded shops, we are.
We are very well whether you decide to go in life, were here with changes if you want to, if.
Speaker 3You want to go from dog to cat, dot, we are for you mind.
Speaker 1Were one hundred on your side.
Speaker 3This is what I don't understand about cat lovers is one they love being treated like absolute.
You go to the house and they're like this is Whiskers absolutely hates me.
Speaker 1Claws my face several times a day.
Speaker 4He's my bubbsy and they have him and he's ninety seven years Yes.
Speaker 1And I must it.
Oh, he won't eat that cat food.
Must get him the most expensive on the shelf.
Speaker 3Oh, I love my Whiskers.
Don't bring a child under four he will attack it.
Speaker 1Yes, but also there are some dog lovers like that, aren't.
Speaker 3They rescue dog lovers and I always laugh.
Scan the rescue dog website.
Everyone donate to the Lost Dogs Home Lost Dogs Home in Melbourne.
Speaker 1Have they got a no kill policy?
They try.
Speaker 3I think they try very hard not to.
That's why I often give money and they do because you know, they do discuss.
Speaker 1They do go.
Speaker 3Hard when a dog really needs to be adopted.
They do go very hard on that dog.
Get them a house, push hard on the socials.
Speaker 1Do you know what, now that I have discovered the beauty of a dog.
Speaker 3I know what you're going to say.
Speaker 1I can't bear the thought any of them, mate, I can't bear the thought.
The other day I was watching at It's so terrible.
What No, it was just it was a woman and it was on black and white CCTV in the bush somewhere, so like a bushy street, and I think it was in America, and she pulled over and she dumped her dog.
I don't want to know.
I don't want to hear the story.
But it's a good story.
Then try to pick the dog up and adopt it.
Okay, that's right, but no.
But what I mean is, once upon a time would have just been a grainy bit of CCTV, like someone running down the streets of Melbourne with a MASHITTI I would have been.
I know it's happening on not next Dooryt correct put a spin on this, But now I'm so devoted by it.
Speaker 3I really do mean this.
Cody's not listening.
He's a Daubler, so maybe he's not listening.
Getting our dog eight years ago did something to my heart that no human has ever done.
Speaker 1Of course, but we know that you're not right, open, wide open.
Yes, we know that.
Speaker 3I cannot even watch a show if a dog gets injured, I'm like, I'm out.
I donate a lot of money to the Lost Dogs Home cat.
I don't care about you ourselves.
Speaker 1I don't get this care.
I heard one knave some bile and hatred for one certain group just because you like then the group coming from you, gotcha?
Well, not animals.
Speaker 3Two years ago, it might not even be true.
I read or heard that pigs are as smart as dogs, and I have as humans as I haven't eaten the pigs.
Speaker 1Yeince true story, not even bacon, Not even bacon.
Speaker 3I don't touch any of it because they're as smart as dogs.
Speaker 1Do you know what?
I wish I had that higher calling.
Speaker 3But hey, hang on, okay, I haven't had it yet for any other animal.
Speaker 1Well no, but one animal is enough just to stop eating one.
And that's a good one because the way that they're raised for you know, our intensively farmed is not good.
I ain't great, like really bad.
And yeah's so similar to us.
You know.
Sometimes they use their organs in transplantation, and when people need a hard valve replace, they pig in their pig one.
It's really they're very similar.
Speaker 3What really annoys me is when people you can never make people happy enough of what you don't eat, and so I'll say something about the pig and then someone will go eat lollies.
Speaker 1Lollies.
Yeah, the gelatin is a you know, where you learn they're going to give up a lolly.
If you're friends with someone who's a vegetarian, people are so determined to find the holes in it.
Do you wear liver shoes?
It's just like, calm down, know, they just don't eat meat?
Do you indet a game?
Speaker 3People?
Speaker 1We're just hard wied me where I am by the way, But by the way, I'm one of the worst people for doing that.
I love to find the flaws.
Speaker 3I do a podcast.
Have you ever tried telling a story to Caitline?
Speaker 1But what time is this?
What do you wear?
Hang on?
But you lunch?
I love and including my own.
I love our inherent hypocrisies, which we are all riddled with.
I do love.
A problem with the world at the moment is that people don't want to recognize it in themselves.
They only want to point the finger at others.
And what do I say about when you point the finger at someone?
Valveot, I don't know what you say about that.
Do you point a finger someone there's three fingers pointing back at you.
You've never said that to me.
And I mean.
Speaker 3It's odd because even the dabbler, this is aird how is the dam he's good?
Guess what he won't eat because he thinks they're too smart to make him comfortable eating it.
Speaker 1Not.
Oh no, people like it's ever since that Docco, the one with a guy like really and everyone was like so beautiful.
Yeah, I know, and it's there.
It's eight hands like no woman could compare.
But no, he was.
He had something show he's hold into bacon, going, I can't eat octopus?
No?
Everyone something?
I mean, I don't.
Can't you eat m let's get people in life?
I got how long have I got?
No?
You know what?
There's certain things I won't eat, but not out of respect for the animal, just because I don't like it.
So I'm not an awful person, though I do love pati.
What's of choice?
Chicken?
Okay?
What else is there?
Speaker 3There's liver, there's dark chicken liver.
Speaker 1It was it's all liver or goose liver.
Get very confused with this love, don't People will write.
Speaker 3To the chat excuse me, Kate, you're an idiot.
All some feedback about the podcast audio feedback.
Speaker 1That's good about me.
The first one is just some advice for the one.
There's another softening me.
I promise you.
It's the ship sandwich, my my nephew.
Speaker 3My nephew, this nephew Eli and his feedback about The buck Up.
Speaker 1Hang on, Eli DUTCHYLI, No, that's Australian.
This is oh eli children's podcast.
You want me to make a children's podcast?
Speaker 5Yes?
Speaker 1What would I talk about?
Wow?
Speaker 3So Eli doesn't like our pod, but he wants us to do a children's podcast about music?
Speaker 1Christ what would what would that?
And also is Eli aware?
I don't want to take a set against one of your nephews.
But if there's a nephew who lives in Holland, yes, who's a fan and a nephew.
He lives in Australia.
Speaker 3He's not a fast constructive criticism.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't think.
I don't like it is constructive criticism.
He's like the AIRCN guy the other week.
For some reason, I'm oddly irrationally irritated at a child.
I'm not Eli.
I'm joking.
But Eli, I have to tell you this, and you may not be aware of this because as a child, you're young, and you're relatively happy all the time.
Disastrously happens, like you snap your favorite pencil.
Aside from that, you're very happy this podcast The buck Up.
You're giving him.
Speaker 3The guarantee comes with.
Speaker 1A money prep guarantee, guarantee money back.
You can take it to the bank if you can find one, open the kiddy bank, the combank, kid even take it.
And this is our guarantee to you.
Eline, what is it?
You will feel better at the end of this podcast than you did at the start of And Eli, you don't even understand that yet.
What a gift that is.
But as you move through life and you suffer the slings and arrows, and you find yourself burden under the yoke of capitalism and increasing fines and taxes from a government that has basically lost its way and is persecuting the citizens of the state.
Were important to you.
Welcome to Sky New is Australia.
I love it.
Hang on, Sorry, what do you think?
That's not the cake?
Interesting?
Speaker 3Not realizing singma bloody lullaby, Let's do a wiggles.
Speaker 1I'm just like, do you think things are working well?
Speaker 3Not really?
Speaker 1No?
Okay, good, I told you that.
Speaker 3We'll talk about it later in this episode.
I want my husband to make more money so I can be a trade.
Speaker 1Wife because she's going to be a trap.
We'll talk about that in a second.
Speaker 3An hour later, I'm shooting hoops with my other nephew, brother Jude.
Speaker 1Are dudes on board?
You old or younger?
Jude older.
Speaker 3I'm not too sure how he feels about the podcast, but I can tell you this, he has thoughts about my basketball skills.
Have a listen.
What's your feedback on my basketball skills?
Speaker 6Suck?
Speaker 1What?
Shuh?
Oh?
Goodness, dude, you know what.
He's not wrong, he's not.
You don't wrong.
You don't need to say that.
Yes you do.
No, we all knew as soon as you said you're playing basketball with him?
I said, shooting how.
Speaker 3I don't think anyone that did shoot any anyone that I didn't.
I don't think I got any in I tried.
Let me tell you this, gaze that are listening.
If you think you're going to coast through life without ever having to face the fact that you can't play sport, you just wait to your siblings have kids.
Speaker 1And all of a sudden you're out on the basketball courts being a fun uncle and being bullied bullied by children.
But children bully everybody, they really do, they honestly, and people go, they's so honest.
Poorly raised.
Speaker 3I mean, I'm bad at basketball, like I do a good podcast.
Cody's nieces and my nieces were like a terrible hair.
Speaker 1They said to me, tried, I remember, I remember, we love kids.
Yeah, you reminded me of something then and I just forgot it.
Good stuff, beautiful potting.
It was so good you would have really enjoyed it.
What week of the year do you reckon?
Speaker 3You tap out for the year, because it's becoming earlier for me.
I think I dropped my first it's the end of the year.
The other day, I don't think we're there yet.
Speaker 1Oh no, you know what you know I told you about my aft to pay that I'm having to pay for your troops and your holidays.
Speaker 3You're supposed to celebrate your book being finished, and you went to Japan just reminding the listeners and maybe you get the book's not finished.
Speaker 1But you say, here's my question to you.
Yes, Kate, Yeah, I took the celebratory trip to celebrate finishing the book.
Speaker 3You've been on the honeymoon.
Speaker 1I did.
What happens if you miss an after pay payment?
Yeah?
Goody actually happened.
Well, it's the same as I think.
Is it just a couple?
Yeah, you can no longer use it.
Oh, and do they charge you interest?
They don't think so they make money out.
Speaker 3Of it, sash transaction fees maybe what I just guess that just have to.
Speaker 1Pay to sponsor the buck up?
Why don't buck up?
Now?
Did you tell me it was invented by an Australian.
That's right, Australian.
Just incredible talking about things invented by Australians.
What else wi fi?
Yeah, but whatever, I can't see that later that invented skin that you talked to me about the other way.
Yeah, did you find her?
She made medical skin.
Yeah, she grew people's lives.
Oh the closes line thing was that?
Yeah, but people don't use that anymore.
But I think they've gone into a striap one.
The goon bag, the bladder really yeah, the bladder from all those cask things we punch above our weight.
Yeah, but what what have we done lately?
Oh?
You know they've done just so boring.
Speaker 3I use it.
Speaker 1What is it that you can app for editing can for billionaires?
Yeah?
That a couple a couple, And of course he's always you know, say Bondi Sands.
I don't even know what that means, but we know that I don't know, but they you know anything bond Bond Yeah, amazing, amazing, But some bikini label.
Speaker 3Please bring back turning beds.
God, it was a time to be alive.
Speaker 1I miss them.
Some people have still got them.
Speaker 3I know there is I love the fact that there is a black market.
Speaker 1Yes, so a friend of ours, we're going to do this one eagerly and you can get them.
Yeah you could at the time.
People still must have something.
Don't d ms about how unhealthy it is.
We are full of you aware, Are you kidding?
I don't see the DM exactly contact us about I actually like it people past though I'm still reeling from the from the flossings with your hair not regularly.
Can we just and you're a caveat?
It was one of the caveats that I am an idiot in extreme emergencies, the same way that you might drink your urine in an emergency.
Who hasn't done that?
Speaker 6Not me?
Speaker 1Not me, of course, not speaking of online.
Speaker 3Yes, I finally found out there is a word for the thing that annoys me all the time.
Have you heard about the bean soup theory?
Speaker 1Yes?
I didn't know about this, about the bean soup you're online thing.
So I always.
Speaker 3Noticed the bean soup theory and always makes me really angry.
Speaker 1Explain it because.
Speaker 3Theory is basically when people kick off in comments about something in the video that has nothing to do with them and never was.
For example, someone will post a bean soup recipe and someone will comment, I can't eat beans.
What can I substitute the beans for?
And it's a recipe for bean soup.
Speaker 1It's literally happened.
Soup theory.
I see it all so people all the time, because they see everything through the prism of themselves, so they will ask people or they'll way into the comments offended by something that actually does not affect them in the slight to deal with you, what made you think of that?
Though?
Speaker 3Because I always see it on videos that I even mentioned one the other day when it was like this thing about pasta and then someone was like, can you make this without the pasta?
Speaker 1I was like, why are these a million recipes in the world?
Okay, so under the is this a scam?
Speaker 3I love that question?
Speaker 1So I was watching, as is my wont YouTube video.
I can't Resa said to me the future exactly why are you watching this woman who I can't of remember what she was doing.
She was full cooker?
Was she?
What was she talking about?
I can't even remember an American flag.
I can't even remember what I was wating.
Speaker 3We still haven't told our buckheads that there is another podcast called the buck Up and it's a bunch.
Speaker 1Of right wingers.
Speaker 3It's just started and like they're into like conversion therapy, guns, shooting, Sash and I stalk them and they've got a YouTube account and they called the buck Up and they post videos and because.
Speaker 1It's so funny, because it's so funny, do you think they know about us?
Surely they googled the buck Up?
Are we on YouTube as well?
Sash?
No, yes, are we we are?
I didn't know that, I'm sure, but they've only got like fifty followers or something.
Go away the buck Up the other one.
Okay, so I was watching a YouTube.
Speaker 3You'll probably pop up on that guest.
Speaker 1And imagine me going high felers.
Don't tell that regular co that I'm here and that I'm far enough.
Speaker 3This rale if America, if Australia was America, you would carry a gun into that bag.
And that would make me so nervous because there's so much other stuff from there.
Speaker 1Correct, and also because I couldn't be trusted with a gun otherwise I'm not.
I'd love you to have one.
I'd love to pop off some just just Serman.
Speaker 3You would be the worst person in an emergency.
Someone would say we need a gun, and.
Speaker 1You'd be like, hang on, oak on, tramon, bracelets, bracelets on free Smasha fridg How am I in a in an emergency?
Speaker 3You're very good, very very gun.
Speaker 1No, but it's involved dead animals.
Speaker 3I was.
I've seen you.
I've seen you lose a boarding past twice.
Speaker 1Yeah twice.
There's no realurg about that, do you know what I mean?
It's not it stakes aren't high enough.
The stakes aren't high enough.
And you always know that they're going to let you on the plane.
Yeah, gun or not?
Yeah whatever.
I'm like, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to take this on osfer.
Speaker 3How do you feel about people taking little dogs now on virgin flights in this country?
Speaker 1I can't wait to be on a plane and see how it plays out.
It depends, it depends.
Am I next to them?
Speaker 3I think you have to.
Speaker 1A dog in my leg room?
Is the little dog going to weigh and pooh and make a malodorous true a good point.
And am I going to be encroached upon?
Speaker 3My guess is going to be there's going to be a dog row.
There's going to be a particular row.
Speaker 1Like you know they put children in a row, do they?
Oh?
Yeah, they put people with This happened to us when our kids were little.
They put you up the back of the plane.
Can I tell you something?
Really?
And they put you all together, all the parents with little kids together.
Speaker 3Sort of grim, but maybe not grim.
You tell me if this is grim.
Speaker 1It's going to be grim.
Speaker 3I love it when there is newborns on my flight.
I love it because in how I'm a very bad flyer and on pop and valleys no matter what, Yes, I don't think a bad thing would happen to a newborn.
So if that newborn is on the flight, the play's not going down.
Speaker 1There's a newborn, there's a new born, innocent baby.
Speaker 3I want that baby screaming the whole flight because I know I'm safe.
Speaker 1I love that.
So do you know what, I'm not even faintly annoyed by children on a plane.
And but twofold one, if you don't have children they're people who are doing God's work for you and the nation's work.
So good on them, right, they're doing it, so you don't have to so straight away salute them.
Secondly, if you are a parent, just be glad they're not your children.
Speaker 3So I get it, why, it's just you know what, I've never had okay, and I want I always see these TikTok videos of these new parents.
Speaker 1Getting on the flight and they've made sorry packs for all the people in their ride when.
Speaker 3They get all these lollies and like, sorry, I've never gotten one.
Speaker 1No, I've never know people.
Don't Americans do that?
An't doing that?
What would you like in your sorry and free staff and nibbles?
Just you know, a proper sorry pack?
Speaker 3And you know what, here's some judgment.
If you're flying without headphones, you don't deserve to complain about You don't have the right to complain about anything.
Speaker 1If your raw dog, your raw dog and fes I ever think who's well organized enough to remember to bring it?
Headphones?
Speaker 3Buck headphones from a chemist at the airport.
Speaker 1Do you know how many piece of those we bought in our lifetime keep buying one day when they go to my great Pan Pacific, rubbish jump swirling around.
I don't hear it.
Headphones, you know, there'll be a whole Lewis Langbrook family section just with headphones.
I purchased headphones and neck that every single flight I have to buy one.
Speaker 3One of the most expensive purchases I've ever done was by Special and you love the flight headphones like eight hundred bucks.
Speaker 1Oh what sort did you get?
Speaker 3I got the bost noise care?
Are they really my kind of shit?
Sometimes I have to take them off because I panic at the plane stop or that you've lost like the engine stopped.
Speaker 1And we can't because we've got four kids and they're still young enough that anything that we have that is beautiful and precious, including our very lives as they were before they came along, they must destroy it.
And that's just how it is.
So we can't.
We're not at the point where we can have anything nice yet.
We haven't started the yep yet.
By the way we trad one have I been scared?
Is a scam?
Reminded us of that something you said?
Something we'll get like to know we'll never get the canceling greedle.
How will we ever find our way back home?
If we don't see where we sprinkle the bread crumbs, that how they got home.
Our birds have eaten them, but birds ate the bread crom How that ended?
How does that fairy tale end?
Which which goes in the oven?
Speaker 3Doesn't?
Speaker 1That must be because they remember they have to put their fingers through to see if they're fat enough, and they start putting.
She's fattening them up.
So jealous of those kids for the first half of that story that they have each other gingerbread hair making them fat.
Oh, that's rights.
It's the wall, eat the doors, eat everything because she wants to giving them in prisoned if they're eating.
Speaker 3Holes in that story.
Kaitline, Rooky is here to tell your folks.
Speaker 1Sorry, Eli, no music, no fairy tales.
I love it, lie but disappointed anyway.
Okay, So I was so on this YouTube video and I can't remember what it was.
Don't listen to her saying that it was some cookery sort of thing that doesn't sound like me.
But an ad came on and and I've seen quite a few times on YouTube, and anyone who's watched YouTube would have seen it.
And because summer's coming, I'm like, this sounds actually amazing.
I've seen it quite a few times.
We all have this problem.
In summer, things get really hot.
Not for a long time, but there are days.
There's a streak of days no one's yeah, no one's sleep.
So this ad came on.
Speaker 6I'm like, it's smaller than a lunch box, cools any room within three minutes, and uses ninety eight point seven percent less energy than your ac.
It was invented by a former ASA engineer from Adelaide, cooled down a thirty seven square meters room by sixteen degrees in minutes wait less than one kilogram.
The small and lightweight design allowed the device to run for over twelve hours.
It's called Mini Portable cooler.
She passes water over a precision engineered liquid compression cartridge one, cools rooms within minutes, sixteen tea water, and plug it in to start blasting out icy teil air ca for free.
Speaker 1All right, cho is like a live ex from Mark Yeah, okay, it's real.
Hang on.
So I'm like, all of that was just incredible, So many of those whatever.
But when they said invented by a guy from Adelaide, an engineer from Adelaide, I'm not that's amazing.
Cool a room by sixteen degrees.
Speaker 3Just seems not so good.
Speaker 1Okay, it seems so amazing.
And for a portion of the electricity?
Speaker 3Do you work for.
Speaker 1Them something else?
No, Livy, I've seen it before, right and then and then halfway through as though God sent this to me to protect me.
He often does, just ask Gwen Stefani.
Yeah, there you go.
This ad popped up in the middle of the same video.
Speaker 5Two ex NASA engineers just created a way to cool rooms in under ninety six hang on barely any power.
The engineers created a patented NASA inspired air forces that pulls in surrounding hot air, rapidly cools it and blasts out the stead stream of refreshing Call there, why do you the temperature dropped from ninety three degrees are to sixty three degrees.
Speaker 1Sixty degrees selfis what breath max?
No, it's called mini portable.
Speaker 3Could change the name and who invented it and who invented.
Speaker 1It and unless NASA stands for not at South Australia, which is what we were reading, we just got more holes in it than handle and Grada.
Speaker 3I think I can't believe cooker Kate got to the bottom of this in.
Speaker 1The same video.
But I'm like, you fools, you almost clicked.
I was.
I almost clicked, almost clicked, almost clicked.
And then I'm like, hang on a minute.
And then my husband came in, who, as you know, was an engineer, and I said to Peter, is this possible that this works?
And he goes, let me have a lock act.
He loves that.
Men love nothing more.
He had a massive heart just at me asking him for his expertise.
Men love damsel, and he had a look.
He's like looking at it and he's like, hmm, well, technically it's possible.
Then he goes, oh, filling up with water.
No, that doesn't sound right.
And then he goes, what's the power source?
And they're very reluctant to show the power sauce.
And then when we realize the power source is it's a USB that plugs.
Speaker 3Oh yes, with the airlocks, plug into your love.
Speaker 1Okay, so that was the answer, But how close I came so close to calling your house down for so cheap?
We all want that.
We all want.
That got me the sixteen degrees rating and the American what did they say from ninety something something to six sixty something?
I think they had the same degree drop in minutes minutes minutes.
Anyway, let us let us that be a message to the bucket, the buck knuckles, the buckstickle do I'm still don't know the answer to this.
Is Etsy legit?
Yes?
But is it really?
Speaker 3Is it?
Speaker 1Like we'll hang on one.
Speaker 3There's just been many things I come across and go, oh, I want that, and then I noticed that it's an Etsy ad and then you click on the account it's.
Speaker 1On the well, I think they were shop owners.
It's all really maintainted, like.
Speaker 3So, I don't want to I don't want to take the risk.
What what do you think you actually found the other day?
Thinking of a rug from itsy Etsy?
Okay, I'm a woman in Morocco.
The photo doesn't.
Speaker 1Look real, but it looks cheap, would be cheap and.
Speaker 3Saying stuff like we'll face will FaceTime you and you can look at it and we'll like, of.
Speaker 1Course you look at it.
But that ain't what's arriving in the mail.
What's what little air conditioning you to read that?
Did you read the comments?
But that now people.
Speaker 3Now people pay for that?
Speaker 1What do the comments?
I reckon?
Speaker 3Other buckets are going to know this?
I reckon I Google is legit?
Yeah, about fifteen times a week, all these different websites that I find or things selling your furniture or shoes.
Speaker 1All this I'm like, is da da da da legit?
And then what happened?
Ever?
Legit?
But also, you know what, you've got to change your search engine.
This is where I come into my own.
Here we go.
You've got to get off Google and you've got to go to duck duck goay go?
What am I doing over there?
Well, because they don't have a paid they don't have a paid pay them yeah, yeah, how were they still in business?
Speaker 3Dot again?
Holes in the story in.
Speaker 1The story, however, like they're not.
You can't advert tires for a preference place, or if you can't buy good reviews, you can Okay, I'm not sure what you can do.
Speaker 3I'm going to say no to the Moroccan woman selling me a rug on Etsy?
Speaker 1Can you bring her in next week?
That's you know what it is for me?
I want you to it's not and records yourself.
Speaker 3It's not cheap and it doesn't seem cheap enough to be fake, because it's not that cheap.
Speaker 1That they've thought it through, you know, what I'm saying when a scam?
How much is it?
How big is the srize I want to get?
Give me the size?
I know three as you know in the rug wars with my mother.
So if you're going to bring anyone into this, it will be a decorated soldier who has served in that very theater of war.
For the rug four by three meters four meters by three meters.
H huh, A very good science.
That's a lounge room side it.
Speaker 3Is to go under so far and the coffee table, yes, perfect, I want a.
Speaker 1Royal perfect blue.
What material are you talking?
Speaker 3Any material?
I want the color I'm chasing the Okay, so this is I've been told to get a wool blend.
Speaker 1Yeah, get you want wool idea lend or wool silk blend with stunning okay, stunning.
But I think I got quite a lot.
Well this woman for this size.
What a very successful husband was asking for twenty four hundred for that?
He's too made of?
What was it?
Mad blended with wash?
Speaker 3I don't know.
I didn't look, could be bothered, but to me, what was the pattern?
An Australian website had a similar rug for eight and a half.
Speaker 1They will, but they will.
Speaker 3It's not there's no pattern, just planes, plane suit's got.
Speaker 1A slab in it or some sort of no, so it could just be a piece of hemmed carpet.
That's what I want.
Hence me going maybe two and a half for right, right, I don't know.
I would like to.
I would really like to steer you here.
They're so expensive to ask no, No, I know, I agree, I agree, but I think for that all right, bear with me.
Speaker 3I'm barn as I do most as I.
Speaker 1Often say to Peter.
When we were going to get the curtains in our last house, we got a quote and it was so ludicrously expensive.
I said to Peter.
For that price, I could fly from China, have a holiday with my girlfriend, get the made in Shenzene, and fly back.
But until you finish your book, guess what what I did that?
Oh, and guess what I was right.
So, the pair of us, I'll just tell you by way of example.
Then, PA quote we had then, and this was probably fifteen years ago, sage was eighteen thousand dollars.
Jesus.
We flew to Hong Kong.
We stayed at the beautiful Langham.
Then We went to shen Zene In, which is, you know, the manufacturing district of China, the closest massive.
We found a place on the ground floor.
I went, I'm not even going to an the shop.
This will do.
There were people there from all over the world, like what do you call them?
Interior designers like Germans and Italians, with clipboards and things and materials, watches.
I told a woman the measurements that I wanted, I chose the fabric.
I paid them two thousand, two hundred dollars including shipping.
We came back from our stunning holiday.
I said to Peter, We'll probably never see that two and a half thousand dollars again, but it was worth it just for the thrill of it.
And three months later, on the guess what arrived on our front porch.
Peter came in one day went what are those boxes out the front?
These cardboard boxes taped split at the scenes, but bandaged up our curtains.
Curtains for five rooms and a blind for the kitchen for two and a half thousand dollars, not even what a when, and they'd made complimentary tie backs up.
I mean rolling in the service.
That's what I'm saying, so, why wouldn't you and Cody.
Speaker 3Go to Morocco holiday in Morocco?
Rug Why wouldn't Why wouldn't we?
Speaker 1And then why wouldn't you get a couple of rugs, including one for me?
Speaker 3I love rugs speaking of online, but why wouldn't you?
Speaker 1Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3It's a good it's a good suggestion.
Speaker 1It's insane, not really, so, you know, great story.
No one goes to another country to get something like that.
Something gee, something about the giant marble statue Vietnam?
Speaker 3How'd you get that home?
Speaker 1They shipped it?
And you know what else we learnt So we're in hoy in Vietnam.
Speaker 3I can't be there's impression of Kate walking into any shop anywhere that's on Australia.
Speaker 1I'll take it.
No, you know what, I'll have that.
For some reason we decided we wanted a statue.
Speaker 3Of Neptune, as you do.
Speaker 1And how bizarre in this part of Hoyan, which is I've been to Hoya, Yeah, yeah, you've been to so you know when you come in from the airport, there's all those marble shops.
Do you remember this?
Hang on, it's a long time.
No you'll think we're talking about Hanoi.
It's not.
Han's all right, I'm just telling.
Speaker 3We did like three places, that's all okay.
Anyway, I was twenty.
Speaker 1They had that was still sober.
They had Well you with that?
Were you with a cousin?
Speaker 3No, it was the family, remember, because Dad wanted to go and do the tours.
Speaker 1Jamien a bad name?
Demon seed name?
Speaker 3Is that?
No, you're thinking because of the exist in this devil's name, Jamon, I think so, or the Devil's seed or something.
Speaker 1I just think they you've met Damien.
Speaker 3Live show, you met him because Damon loves this pod.
So this is going well.
Speaker 1He would know people would say to my demon seed when he meets them.
Speaker 3Demon seed one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard a human say.
Speaker 1Demon seed.
I read it in the book once, yes, but I get it.
Speaker 3But demon seed is just an amazing way to describe it.
Speaker 1Guy, that's bad for your friend.
He's got the demon seed.
Stay clear time, I'll tell you about the Statue of Neptune.
No quickly, no, no, there's no I've lost in truth.
Speaker 3Okay, well, just on the online thing and we're swinging this back and it's been many weeks.
Speaker 1Buckheads ye shadow.
Oh my goodness, I had to.
I did Sam Thaunton's podcast the other day and I had to explain the concept of shadow labor to him, and he said, that's amazing.
Speaker 3His mind is blown.
Speaker 1Pretended that he listens to this book.
I'm sorry, Sam Taunton.
Speaker 3He was about to tell people, cannot be to listen to your pod because we love you, but now will not because you don't listen.
Speaker 1To However, we haven't mentioned it for quite some time, so it is possible that he listened a boycotting Sam Thornton's new podcast.
I can't remember what it's called, but if I remember what it's called, i'll tell the track the track.
Do not listen to dinner the track here, do not if you're going to do shadow labor of podcast listening, it'll beat in the back up.
Are you ready for this shadow laboring?
Anyway?
He loved the concept of it.
Speaker 3A side table for our place because.
Speaker 1I'm stopping stopping you here, and I'll tell you why why we don't need to come any further on this very.
Speaker 3Podcast that I have lost a lesson.
I've forgotten a lesson.
Speaker 1You have that you were so declamatory about and you were so tub thumpingly ind about what did I say?
Okay, so you were having a go at people who buy things on Facebook mark place.
Huh, and the over didn't take you much.
Should be free?
Yeah, correct, But then we know that's not a reality.
So what it really was was you saying, if I'm going to spend that and you go buy something new.
Speaker 3The impression again changes every week from Mary Poppard's.
Speaker 1You know, it's sure is dusty up there.
You would have a cup of table.
I've got the black lung like my uncle, it claimed.
I give it a miss.
Anyway, my point that I didn't make to you when you were really having a go at a lot of people in this great nation.
Speaker 3Actually was just saying it should be free.
Everything on Facebook market place should be free.
Speaker 1Facebook Marketplace.
Speaker 3Let's put together.
It's put together together.
Speaker 1So please continue your story.
Speaker 3So I'm moaning and I'm growing as a person on the bucket.
Speaker 1And what is that?
Well, let me finish my round.
Speaker 3Okay, eighteen one hundred dollars and it has to be put together by you?
Speaker 1Oh no, eighteen No, it was like a like a like a fine yeah, but like and you have to build it, you have to put it.
Speaker 3And it was eighteen one hundred dollars and you scroll down to the measurements and it has flat pack measurements.
Speaker 1Oh no, Adelaide from South Australia.
Speaker 3This is I went in my head.
But it wasn't a scam.
It wasn't a scam.
That's just what they're now telling you to pay and then put it together.
Speaker 1But that is another place legitimate they delivered to it to you.
That doesn't mean it's not a scam.
Speaker 3Found another place that said for one hundred and twenty dollars before you and I used that and.
Speaker 1Was it cheaper?
Yes?
Speaker 3And good?
Speaker 1Okay, so instead of eighteen hundred dollars, how much was it.
Speaker 3This that was being put together?
I think was thirteen what?
But they put it together?
Yeah, it was a different one.
Speaker 1But I the racket of you building your own foost going on, as though, what is going on?
You're in the nineteen twenties and you've gone an apprenticeship, you agree at a cabinet made what I'm gay?
Yeah, you're color, you're gay.
You know what you designed the room?
Speaker 3I will judge the furniture.
I'm not going to put it together.
Speaker 1You're not in and you know what what, I'm a lease eazy.
We actually got know a lot of women now who have been on the testosterone that one.
You know, they take pride in.
And I went and I bought a drill and I put up and I know for a while we get this flush of euphoria that we're capable of doing it.
But on a daily basis.
No, I wanted a man, a man to build a man, even God, you got to.
I wanted your hins in fingers, mate, and then I mind him to run his roughhew hands over my soft womanly body.
And I wanted to put me together as well, or take me apart.
I don't mind put a and b what and who's a left over screw?
We paid a couple of very lovely straight men the other day to do a very key gay thing, put up our artwork.
I needed two mirrors.
I needed two mirrors to be put up.
You knew where they were going, of course, didn't.
Speaker 3I needed two mirrors and two art prints to go up on the wall.
They came there and there, gentlemen, and.
Speaker 1Off they popped.
Had you marked the spot?
Speaker 3Well?
We had to chat about it, and yes, you know they also did mounted our TV.
Speaker 1I've never done that before.
Goodness, I had the TV was using.
Speaker 3Attention and that was a cheap but worth it because.
Speaker 1They're mounting the TV.
I keep saying to lewis my eldest son mount the TV?
Son?
This is such a good business of someone who goes around and provides tech support to old people.
So where my mum lives, in the retirement village where she lives, it's a sea of old people who.
Speaker 3Are confused about of course.
Speaker 1It's not their fault.
It's not their fault.
Bar CO code, a smart TV too, factory authentication, there are one hundred and six Yes.
Mom said the other day, have I really want to watch this thing called ABC?
I view right?
Tell her my specials on that?
Yeah, well she can't watch it because she doesn't have a smart TV.
Well, the numbers man said, you need a smart TV.
She said, what's that?
We couldn't believe she didn't have a smart TV.
Speaker 3By the way, how does she watch TV?
Speaker 1No, she did have a smart TV, but she got rid of it.
Speaker 4Okay, yeah, so that's a very smart anyway, what a great business and how she's from young men's some young honorable men, not gypsies.
Speaker 1We pretending to fix old people's roofs.
Let me tell you this much.
Speaker 3If they're charging as much as these guys charge to put up the stuff, they are clean enough.
Speaker 1How much did you pay to put four things mounted?
Speaker 3Two mirrors, one big big artwork thing and mounting the TV?
Speaker 1Right, TV is a big job A grand yeah, a grand to do to do that.
One of the mirrors is very big.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you home mission.
This is why gay people have to be successful.
And I stand by this.
Speaker 1They would have had I know, and all you would have had to do.
Speaker 3This is why most gay people we have something in common.
Most gay people do have quite a hard drive for money.
It's because we need money to pay people to do all the things.
Speaker 1But also your unincumbered by the responsibility is to stop other people being able to work.
Speaker 3To think so children, yeah, women, yeah.
Speaker 1Women, they'll suck your drying What every night do you reckon?
Speaker 3I reckon one case, too much for those books?
Speaker 1Yes, I really too.
But they had to They were telling me that to go and get them this extra.
I think there have been times in my life where I'm like, I'd pay someone a thousand dollars to come in and wash these dishes.
So it's really.
Speaker 3Here's the conclusion I came to.
If we don't pay that, they are going to be leaning up against all on the floor for two years.
Speaker 1Riddle me this, I will was it cash?
No tuppy tack, shappy tat tuppy ta tax deductible home office A little bit will be?
Yeah?
I think so Okay, do I look in that mirror before I go to a gear game?
Yes?
Two of them.
Did they keep a straight face when they told you the best?
Their faces were very straight.
Had they given you the quote before?
Speaker 3Lovely gentlemen?
Yeah, lovely men?
Speaker 1And they split very quick.
I'm desperate to ask you something.
You know what I did?
I put on my know whatality?
Speaker 3Nationality?
That's a very good question because he had such a wrong accent.
I'm going to say that it was something very weird that I'm not used to you, like you very heavy European accent.
He looked like an old Italian man, but he was an Italian or something else going on.
Speaker 1But yeah, I'm thinking a gyps gypsy.
It was a gypsy.
Speaker 3I mean, we haven't seen that.
Speaker 1We haven't seen any of my jewelry.
Since should we say that romany?
No, what you should say is I haven't seen my chicken.
What he did?
Speaker 3He mounted the TV, then he popped off to the looms.
He had plans there.
Speaker 1The los just they got him.
Speaker 3They got him.
Speaker 1No, I know, like, but you know what for that entertainment and just for that person that thought of it, the Audaciti want together.
Speaker 3Just for a couple of days, we were just pro crime, victimless.
No one cares about it.
Speaker 1We have not been that united since that Coldplay concept when the guy was titting off his assistant and that was the last time to Coldplay concert.
Was the Coldplay concept and the CEO you remember on.
Speaker 3Camera dropking there together now?
Speaker 1No, no, no, because you know what, here's the thing about an a fair Oh I don't know, do tell, don't you really?
Speaker 3You know, my first big relationship, very very big drama of him having an affair.
Speaker 1Hang on, but I know who that was?
Speaker 3No, no, no, no, this was like early twenties.
Speaker 1Oh okay, three years.
Oh that's terrible.
Need to borrow my car to go and have a backup, buck up, back up, buck up, back up.
The gumption.
Yeah, that's true.
How did you find out someone came up to me at a gay club and told me?
And what did you say?
Well, I'll show him, and so I gave him another chance.
Oh, yes, that's what you are.
How you do?
It's the first boyfriend fool me once.
Shame on me for me, I'm asking give him another chance?
Wow?
Speaker 3Good stuff?
Speaker 1What was I saying about an affair?
You haven't hit a single topic we have written down?
Speaker 3Right?
Okay, I need to say something that's going to be some sort of record that we actually didn't get to anything that I had.
Speaker 1Written down a scam.
Oh you didn't you?
Oh you had that written down?
Well I did after the fact.
Speaker 3I want to also it for next week because I don't even know why I jotted.
I jotted pants off and I don't know.
Speaker 1What the story is pants hands off?
Next week?
Really good?
I'm all highly embarrassing.
Really my favorite thing.
Next week?
I've got a text from Mom.
Yeah you do?
Where is it?
Oh?
Here it is.
Speaker 3You're very grumpy now that you're on the test.
Am I her old mate?
Oh?
Speaker 1Him?
Speaker 6Yea?
Speaker 3Bruce Jenner over there so much.
Speaker 1She's never looked better.
Glowing hot as hate is when we went and had a cold plunge the other day, which, by the way, we could hardly bear.
Something's happened to us too cold cold, No, no, but we've done it for eight years, nine years now, one year in water getting weak?
What's happened?
You know what?
We read an article getting used to it that cold is not for women, it's good for men.
Oh, and that in fact, warm is good for women.
Okay, woman cozy cups of tea and vim Hoff doesn't talk about that hot warm water dish.
Then I think it's done something to me.
So now we have a sauna.
Speaker 3Yeah, go the other way.
I would I would trust the research on saunas more than the cold stuff, because.
Speaker 1The sauna one they've been doing for decades.
Even if it came from YouTube.
Yeah, okay, good, I love especially if it came from YouTube.
Oh I love you.
It's a text from well if I wanted to call a room really quickly, text from mom.
Okay, this is from Sophie.
Sue.
Speaker 3Sophie Sue, fe Sue, Sophie Sue.
Speaker 1Oh my lord, I'm in love with you, Sophie Sue.
Yeah, Fee, Sue, did you do?
Yeah?
Fie Sue love Sophie sue she's.
Speaker 3Never had an affair.
Speaker 1She sounds like, yeah, but maybe she's been a feed honest heart.
She sounds like a real sweetie.
Oh no, who you were?
Thank you?
And I was and I am.
Speaker 3I've never had an affair because I'd forget what I say and do ten seconds after I'd do it, so my wives would just be caught out.
Speaker 1So we know what I love about Peter Allen Lewis.
He is really like he doesn't lie.
I first realized that he didn't lie like sometimes I would test him.
Sounds healthy, a bit of fun.
No, just because I couldn't even in little things like he wouldn't like.
I can't help how often my response is just sometimes lied?
When I say how do I look?
Speaker 3And he says fine, how about just lie and a bit of a flavor fine.
Speaker 1But when men say fine, they it means something different.
The woman says fine, things are not fine.
I love when a man says fine, it literally means fine.
Speaker 3When you speak about me and my husband, you always refer to Cody as a man.
Speaker 1I'm not.
Speaker 3So I was like, well, the man, what men do?
Nathan, I am one?
Speaker 1That's good?
How would you do you think of him as a man?
I do, but I think he thinks of me as a man as well.
Speaker 3I think so.
Speaker 1Oh, I love that.
How lovely that Australia voted yes to that seven?
Speaker 3I think it was sorry sixty.
Speaker 1That is so big day I.
Speaker 3Went to the announcement in the city.
I bet you what a bloody moment that.
Speaker 1Was because I know so many gay friends were nervous in the lead up to it, and I was like, what are you nervous for?
Because you just knew that?
Do you know what I remember about that day?
Where were you?
Speaker 3Because that day Australia voted yes Yes.
An incredible afternoon and then I went straight to your radio show and did the show with Hughsey.
Did you?
Speaker 1And then Bill Shorten came on and then we called Mel from Italy?
You're in Italy?
I was in Italy?
Was I in Italy?
How weird is that he wasn't?
I just went to have a gap in my memory.
Ninety eleven, that's all I remember.
I was having a baby.
It's a very weird day.
Amazing, yeah, very good.
And let's have a text from us.
It's a text from okay, Sophie Sue Sophie Sue.
So okay, so she heard mum text from Mom heard on the grapevine that we were visiting great Grandma Fae, great Grandmaster with us, Great Grandma love it Well.
When people get busy early, they can get into the great greats good I mean Romeo and Juliet.
Had they not off themselves or sorry, unlive themselves?
And had they had children?
Speaker 3Who were you arguing with in your head?
Sometimes you just correct yourself mid sentence and I don't know who you're arguing.
Speaker 1I think you know, I think you know.
Enjoy your visit to FaZe.
I am doing my bowel prep for colonoscopy at Castlemaine Hospital tomorrow.
My washing machine died after twenty two years, so new one arrives Wednesday.
Kiss kiss kids.
It's a text.
Speaker 3From Mom's love prepping for a medical appointment.
Speaker 1Oh and also to say colonoscopy, I love her, nothing's made and to say use the word bowel.
My mother has never been happier than when she had to tell us that one of the elders in our corrugation had And she actually did this gesture with her thumb and she's got a fish hook thumb.
So none of that, none of it.
It was so memorable.
They love bow.
Speaker 3They also know how old white goods are.
Who knows how long they've had.
Speaker 4Is.
Speaker 1Last year we ripped our washing machine and that washing machine was twenty one years old.
You knew that, you know how we knew because we got it when we got married, and it's the same age as Lewis, who I was pregnant with when we got married.
And also when we finally ripped it, I was inundated with people sending messages, you'll never have one that old again.
You'll be lucky if you get five years out of your box, like so like como.
Yeah, about how attached to the and how you can't get that quality now because of the in built upsolescence.
I've never trusted my washing machine since I don't trust any of them.
Must we stop?
Speaker 3Do we apologize for that app But I don't know, I don't know it was.
Speaker 1What do you think one of the great?
Oh?
Speaker 3Her face is different, the eyes so different to tell.
Speaker 1Behind the mustache and the and the and the goaty it's hard to tell him now.
Well, those sunglasses you bought a reservo.
Her aunts were twinkling.
Speaker 3I think sometimes we'll finish a record.
And I was just in the corner of way I see sash to a sigh.
Speaker 1I know what does that mean?
Yeah?
And also what I find rude is in the middle of a record, she just puts her blunnies up on the desk and starts flipping through Guns and Girls magazine.
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