Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeart Radio podcast.

Let's just all take a breath all together, whether you're driving or vacuum with your little ear pods in, or taking at your desk, or pat taking a bath.

We're sitting on this couch right now.

I hope they're taking a bath.

Two three, right.

It does help.

I think it really does.

Actually, I actually do.

I came in a little hot and I.

Was like, okay, just kind of helps, did you feel a little.

It just kind of centers you.

It does, You're welcome.

Yeah.

No, that's like one of my favorite things that I do in therapy because you know you're going in, they're super hot and ready, and then it's just like, let's just take a deep breath and then it just kids in then and usually that's on the the breath and the release of tears.

Guys, everybody feeling it is the you know it's almost here, right, It's almost here.

That dramatic pause, I think was the podcast version.

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

I think that's what that was.

It's just this season, as much as you want to love it, it's a lot.

It's a lot for I do have a little hat well sorry from from the what you don't want your head like?

You know what I mean.

It's like I'm not going to from the husband for the wife the wife.

But that's so true.

It is the truth.

It's literally watering, and I'm not even.

I will say this part.

I mean, yes, yes, yes, There's never been a trio of women trying so hard and all of time to be sweet and steadfast and objective as the three of us are today.

But I think a lot of women feel this way around the holidays, and I don't think, just like the conversation of the maids, I don't sometimes think they understand what goes in to all of it, because I I don't think they understand that all the little presents for the teachers and getting those together.

I don't know a husband that has done that, do youar als Deeal's I think you know the answer to that, yeah, no, or that they even think that that is something that goes along with it, you know.

I mean you would just I would have to lay it out and say these are the things I need you to get, which I did, and there was two and he did you have two teachers to give gifts to him.

No, no, this isn't even teachers.

I mean, two gifts out of all of them.

Okay, got it.

I haven't even gotten to yet.

I'm not there yet.

Oh but same though I got and then I just said can you know because he was like yeah, and I don't.

They haven't come yet, so I don't know the status.

But that was the two that I took off my table.

Yeah, I took two off my list and he got them.

I'll give it that.

But it's just and this isn't even complaining about husbands at this point, It truly isn't.

It's like, maybe we put it on ourselves.

Maybe we know it would be done differently.

I don't know, but they have no idea.

Yeah, they don't have the list of Christmas they you know of, and maybe there are some men out there that do.

And that's great, And there's a lot of men that probably have to.

I mean, you know, there are definitely men in situations who have to, so I understand that they don't have to.

We take care of it all of the things, and if we ask generally, I think all of our husbands will help and we'll do and I do like to do.

You know, I like to be I'll admit I like to do the presence.

I like to be in charge of wrapping.

Sometimes I love rapping.

I do.

Yeah, I mean it just as I.

Do something for myself every year.

Maybe this will be helpful for us or others.

Every year, I lock myself in our bedroom with all the gift wrap, and I use my tushy cushy on the floor to aid in the tailbone, and I just put on my Jessica Simpson Christmas and all my sweet little Christmas playlists, and it's just me and a hot coffee or a little tea concoction, and I just it's my Like it's just so therapeutic for me in there, and so it makes me and I try to do it if I can during the day at some point, yeah, so that it's not nighttime and I'm tired and I'm like a million other things.

I just try to make it like I did with my laundry room.

Like I was overwhelmed all the time with laundry, and now I've just made a little sanctuary, just like those moments where you can just kind of anchor and just be grateful and like you know you're praying over gifts and you're being and listen, that's my only Hallmark tidbit for today because the rest of me is just a little bit toxic.

But for what it's worth, that is.

Something I do like doing, and it has been like, it's something I look forward to now.

Yeah, Preston's like, I can hire someone to wrap the gifts this year if that will be helpful to you.

And I'm like, actually no, because I got.

You a minute.

Yeah, and I like it, Like I I don't know, I mean, I think for me, it's more than mental load, of course it is.

I'm just like, I know I've forgotten, like you just brought up teacher gifts and I know I needed to, but like, oh my gosh, right, yes, okay, that's what's on my list I still need to do.

It's the mental load of all of it.

It's you know, everyone's going which way and has Christmas parties and has all this and they don't have that schedule.

They don't know that schedule.

That's all.

It's just the mental Yes, physical load.

Physical load doesn't bother me as much as the mental load, I think is what i'man I'd agree, I.

Did do a little hack this year.

I scooped.

I'm sorry for anybody listening that might have received one of these non so thoughtful gifts from us.

I scooped like a ton of really cute mugs from Target that were like the little Christmas tree with the topper, you know, and like all the little ornament Starbucks hot Chocolate, like one off little things and like teeny tiny little Disco star ornaments whatever, and I just did.

And listen.

I know that not everybody has even the financial capacity to do this, and I understand, but for me, it was worth it to just go get like ten of each of those things and just have like a little bit of a I have a little box in my garage right now and it's just punt in case of emergency gifts mark so that I'm not feeling.

And they're all things I would want to receive, which I think also matters.

But man, it's like I didn't get anything for Lions teacher.

I didn't plan on it.

She's there like two.

Days a week, and we bear, you know, and has she even been there two days a week because she's velcrow?

And then I go to her Christmas program and everyone's toting in huge gifts and I'm like, well, shoot, so it's a little box of goods.

It was, Yeah, I've done that before.

I feel I feel you though on that.

It's not the physical, it's the mental.

Yeah, And I think that's it.

We love, we love doing the things.

It's just the mental does over load it and then it takes the fun out of it.

Yeah, And that's the bummer in it.

I think.

And if you're in young kid mode, you're still in preservation of the magic, which is a whole nother mental file folder right now, because you're trying to I know, I'm trying to keep up with where the gifts are coming in from, right And if you're listening with kids now, you should never listen to us with kids.

You should have learned your lesson by now.

But if you are, this would be a fine time for you to turn it, because I'm also now moving elves every night, and I'm making sure that these packages are not coming to our house because what's been asked for from Santa.

Everyone's got a radar up a bit, you know, and so I'm like just trying to make all these arrangements.

And so there's that whole thing too.

It's a it's not like a lying.

I mean, it is right, but it's like preserving the magic is what I'm calling it, and it's like protecting that magic is really a whole nother file folder because you have to.

Remember what you said and what you ordered.

And we're coming up what.

They saw get delivered because I get everything delivered.

So I'm like, oh, right, note to self.

She saw that package that had the name on the outside, so that has to be from me, can't be Yep.

Exactly, I had a package coming yesterday.

I thought, well, that is no longer a stop and stuff her.

I'm pretty sure though, Ramseys figured it out, and she's messing with me because she keeps adding things.

She's like, she keeps saying, now I want Santa, and I'm like.

Santa's done to finish, which is funny.

Have the problem with Jason, that's wrong with saying it.

But he'll he'll make up something.

Yes, this is what does an imaginary toy?

Yeah, a dragon that shoots out this And I'm like, I cannot find that.

So he probably feels like the elves can make I know.

So that's that's the tricky point that we're in right now.

You're just on that sweet I know.

I love that.

Guys.

So, did anyone see my New York trip at all?

I mean I saw your yeah, your stories.

Did you see my dinner?

I did see your dinner.

Wait oh yeah, oh my gosh, I totally saw your dinner.

And I had a moment.

I guess.

I just I did.

I had a moment I just.

And I saw who it was.

I guess it doesn't It didn't surprise me.

Oh yeah, I knew the I saw the connecting pa and I was like, well, that's just it.

You never know, right, but I did, like ZOOMN.

I was like, wait a minute.

Yeah, I don't know the girl though, Is that is that true?

Yeah?

Her name is Rita.

She's lovely, but I don't know her right, No, Okay, I wondered that same thing.

But I know her name.

Maybe maybe it's through him or through you or something, because I was like, gosh, I know this name, but anyway, go ahead tell.

Us okay, so wild right, So I surprised Alan with a trip to New York for his birthday and our dear friend Adam Whitesman, who is a lovely man.

He's so sweet, such a generous like just he's such a friend to so many people, but he just has such a good heart.

So I'd reached out to him because we're you know, we're very all, very friendly.

He loves Alan.

They you know, we've had breakfasts and lunches when we've come to New York in the past.

And I said, hey, you know, I know I'm surprising Alan with his trip.

I think it'd be really fun.

Would love to see you on that Friday, because on his birthday Saturday, we're going to do just a dinner with us, but would love to see you on Friday, and again, have you come to dinner with us?

And He's like, okay, I'll bring you know, I'll bring a friend.

And I'm like great, sounds awesome.

So we go to this really amazing restaurant called Sartiano's.

I've never been there, but it's a really cute little Italian place, and down walks this man and I'm like, I know that face.

You know, obviously I was.

I watched the Kardashians for years, right, and so but I'm not going to be like, oh my god, you know, so I'm like, I gotta keep it cool.

I gotta play it cool.

So he comes down the stairs and but he introduces himself, not as Jonathan.

Oh, so how does one to introduce himself?

He goes and all my friend Adam was like, this is my friend food God.

No, no, nope, uh oh, I don't think I think.

I'm I wonder.

I don't know if your girl over here can handle this kind of story.

And so I'm like, oh, well, I was wrong, you know what I mean.

So I'm like, you don't know him?

Is that?

No?

I didn't know his real name.

I mean, I had to think about it.

I know both, but I would never call myself well no, that is another part was a kid, okay, continuing maybe he's kidding.

So I'm like, so I'm thinking, sure, I'm not connecting food God.

I'm just thinking food God, you know, because that's to me.

So I'm like, well, I was way off, you know what I mean.

Who I saw this?

So I'm just like, okay.

I was like, I'm sorry, can you say that one more time?

Like it's kind of a loud restaurant.

I'm like, and I was like okay, And I was like, well, shit, I was wrong, you know what I mean?

But cool, nice to meet you, you know, and that introduces me to his friend.

We go to the table and you know, I'm just like, no, that is him, Like I know that's him.

There's no twin that looks exactly like Jonathan from the Kardashians, you know.

But like I'm like, god, I'm like, maybe that was his.

That was a given name, like before Jonathan.

So I'm really just an Alan and I have not had this conversation, you know, because obviously we're all sitting at this table together.

And so then he goes to the bathroom and I was like, so, how did how did do you know?

Again, I'm like I don't want to say the name again because I'm like, fo god, you know what i mean.

Like, I'm like, I still don't know if I heard it correctly.

This is so good.

This is so good, you know.

So and Grammer's this is really good.

Registered would have been amazing because again I'm just thinking, I'm thinking like again, not food God, I'm thinking of food god, right, you know what i mean?

Like, and yeah, so I'm just like, so, how long have you known?

And she's like, oh, for a long time.

And then in the dinner he mentioned something we were talking and I'm putting the pieces together.

And then he said when I was in the Kardashians.

I was like, okay, it's him.

So then then I was like, so, why did you change your name?

You know, like so I was like, so you changed your name, and he said, I, you know, he wanted to not be associated.

He wanted to have a different association than being Jonathan and I and I kind of get that piece.

I'm like, yeah, that makes total sense, like you want to to differentiate yourself from that and and not just be you know, Kim's best friend.

And and he was hilarious.

He was friends.

I don't think so I didn't think, he said, but I didn't want to.

I didn't want to.

I didn't want to.

Like that was like I heard they are not, Alan asked.

He said, yes, but I'm not like I didn't even want to go there, like I'm pecting the space, of course, and I don't.

I'm not even going to say anything that was like spoken about, you know what I mean, like respecting the space.

I love Adam, I respect him, I respect his of course.

I'm just more like with the name, you know, I was so just so.

I knew food God from the Kardashians as well.

Though Oh see, I didn't really I didn't know he called himself that on the show.

Maybe it has always been his Instagram.

Okay, I never followed him, so I didn't know.

I did either, So I don't really know how.

But yeah, I know it too.

But now that you say it, I remember them always calling him Jonathan on the show.

But I think it's when he started to when he started to tuning and what he felt good at.

Or like, yeah, and he became the food God.

Yeah.

Was just so funny because I'm like, I, so is anyone referring him to dinner at all as Jonathan ever?

Just food God?

I came that this is really tricky, so so, but again, he was lovely.

It was so fun like he's such a sweetheart, you know, I loved his friend, like, such a great time.

And so when we got in the car, it then didn't register it to me, so I was like, well, look him up on Instagram.

That's when I saw, Oh, it's food God.

No food god, you know what I mean.

Were you actually saying it like that to him?

Yes, that's how it sounded.

So I'm just trying to be respectful to repeat back what it was, What a time.

I mean, he probably appreciated that you had no idea.

Maybe I don't know, Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm sure he probably you know, I saw that I registered it, but I mean he was lovely.

It was so funny and I was just like, wow, this is this is hilarious.

But I so that was my and then we you know, then Adam had because I'm like, I'm not posting shit, you know what I mean, Like, I am not like but I just thought that was funny.

That just interaction of the name and then knowing he's lovely and he.

Was so sweet good.

Yeah, it was a it was a really I love how when you have moments like that where you didn't know and we had talked talked about this too at the table where when you don't know other people that are coming, it could have been a nightmare, like if the personalities didn't get along, it could have been bad.

But I mean it was such a nice It was such a nice gathering.

He didn't like my peak and pit that I that I did, but besides that, we spoke about it on a oh yeah and so but besides that, it was Yeah, it was really funny, it was a good time.

Why didn't you like it?

Because he doesn't think people will follow through with it?

And I and I you know it's too interesting, it's but I get it a lot.

You know, I can't maybe see you not liking peak and pits because you're like.

Like, actually the thought I'm actually doing it, Like.

What are you gonna let go of?

And it's like, are you're really going to let go of it?

You know what I mean?

Oh?

For sure?

Yeah, you guys, we are in I don't know if you follow this, and I know I'll get whatever, I'll get opinions.

But if you follow the Chinese zodiac at all, do you follow that?

You don't?

I know nothing about it.

Okay, you need to and I won't expand, but everyone does need to like kind of I think you would identify and it would really feel validating if you read this.

We're leaving the snake here and we're moving into a horse here, and it's really interesting how correct and validating it feels to me.

So the snake is like shedding and leaving skin and decluttering and leaving behind things that don't serve you and moving into which I think everybody tries to do a little bit in December into January, but it just felt a little more specific this year.

So yeah, I think that I think we can leave all the pits and move to the peaks.

I like that it's going to feel good.

I actually feel it coming.

But I also get like this before.

One.

Okay, it just feels very much like you're going to a psychic and they're saying something that like would work for everybody.

Yeah.

No, if that's why I feel like it gets detailed, I'll look at it.

I know.

I like that about you, though, I'm like, it's good.

Well, that was fun.

And also when Adams said up to dinner, I feel like it could be he has never known amazing friends.

But what a good dude.

And it was a good time and yeah, and then there was the tread was New York was great?

The right the way home was was a bit show.

But was it because of the snow coming in?

Yeah?

And it was one of those things where you know when you just I I know better.

This is why I always take the first flight out.

Yeah, It's why I should have listened to my gut.

And the whole thing too, is Alan was going to be flying to Belgium.

But he was like, no, I'm going to fly home with you for a couple hours and then I'll fly out, you know, to Belgium in London or whatever.

So Belgium first and then he was going to London then back to Belgium, and so you know, we were so tight on that timeline.

Anyways, that the night of his birthday, I said, Hey, the snow's coming into New York.

I really think we should take that seven am flight out and he's like, well, I don't want to wake up early, and I'm like okay.

I was like I don't have a good feeling about this, and it's like I knew, Yeah, I knew.

So the second we got to the airport at eight, it was okay, you have a thirty minute delay, and then that delay went to one, two, three, four or five, six, seven, eight, and they eventually canceled it.

But by that point all the other flights were sold out.

Yeah, and so I had gotten one seat on a United out of Newark, which is where then his flight from his original flight was Nashville to Newark, New work out.

So that's where we just went then to Newark, and then we just then parted ways from there, so it was just.

So, so you just have to go buy clothes for a trip.

Yeah.

He had to, yeah, go buy all because all he had was just you know, the New York stuff.

So but it was yeah, one of those moments where I'm like, I knew it, but I hated that feeling of that stranded feeling.

Yeah, because even the next day there was nothing because all the Nashville flights, minus like one Southwest and then one American that went went through, all the other ones got canceled.

So people are the mess I knew.

I mean they were gone.

Yeah.

I saw several people on my feed stuck in New York.

Oh.

I was like, oh, that feeling was just like not great though, because I'm like, I know he's going, so now it's just going to be me and I don't know how, you know.

So I'm texting Sean Telle like, hey, girl, can I stay at your place tonight?

I don't know, I might be staying there on Monday too, and I'm like, I don't have time for this.

I gotta get ready for the holidays, and yeah, see the kids and that part too, I'm like I missed the Dickens festival, you know all the things that, So I was just they canceled it.

They did, they did, they canceled it because it was so cold.

So I didn't know that until I got back.

But I mean I was the sweet people that saw me crying in the airport.

And then that's the thing too, because a few of them recognized me and they're like, can I take a photo?

Was like sorry, yes, Like one second, I was like, I just really want to get back to my babies, because you know that, yeah, when you just want to go back.

And then you know, I knew to change the flight because the two morning flights in Nashville went out.

Oh And I was like I know anyways, but it was still glad you made it.

Yeah, it was a good It was a good birthday.

We had a great time walking around Central Park is one of our favorite things too, so it was really sweet.

Ladies, do we got a wine about it?

Oh?

Man, I feel like we've dined a lot, but probably.

We just want to circle back or is there something fresh because it's really been all really all my wine I got.

Yeah, I don't have anything worth noting.

I mean I have a couple things pinned and I'll keep them pinned.

But I think we've done a fair share of non wine wine.

Unless you have a wine, we'd love to hear it.

When people don't tell you the real name, No, I don't just like KBS, So no your wine?

No, Well then let's move right on.

Then to headlines, brooks Nader says so many women have reached out to her about her GLP one addiction.

She shared a very vulnerable moment how she opened up about her addiction to weight loss drugs.

She said she was using medications like ozembic.

She got candid about side effects his medications on her new reality show Loved by Nator, and elaborated on her addiction to Bustle in November.

The thing that I was so shocked about with the show was that I had so many people reach out to me saying I'm also addicted to GLP one.

I'm ashamed to talk about it because there's such a stigma around it.

It's a crutch for me, she told the outlet at the time.

I'm still on it, and it's a crutch for me too.

It's not healthy.

I should get off it.

I'll be honest about that, specifying that she lost thirty pounds to help her career as a model.

Nato revealed that she booked all the jobs after using the weight loss drug, Kat, Do you think that's something that you can that you could find yourself being addicted to.

I'm intrigued by the addiction part of it because when you look at sorry, when you look at true addiction, like, is it that the body has to have that medicine?

You know what?

I mean?

How I look at it as like and again I don't know, but I'm almost looking at it as like a mental thing addicted to staying that.

So that's what it to me.

I feel like that's what the addiction is, Not so much that your body has to have it like a drug addiction because it's used to having it.

But yes, if you're used to being thin, sure, I mean absolutely it's I mean it's why a lot of people will stay on it for the rest of their lives and plan to because they've lost so much weight and who wants to go back to being, you know, thirty pounds.

But people that have lost one hundred and fifty pounds, I mean, who's going to get off of it and potentially go back to being that much bigger, So yeah, I see that, you know, as far as like, I don't know, like it's hard, Like, you know, I talked to my guy the other day and I was like, hey, I obviously don't want to gain the weight back, but I also don't want to stay on this my whole life.

So he's going to transition me over to another one that he feels like is probably safer to do for longer term.

But I don't know, it's tricky.

I mean, yes, of course you get thin, you aren't as hungry, you don't eat as much.

Of course, it's great, you know, it truly is.

At the same time, there's things about it I don't love also that I could do without, you know, like the first twenty four to forty eight hours really tired.

You know, it's you're very tired.

It's I don't feel nauseous.

But it is a little bit of like a logo, like I want to want to eat a little bit more in those first couple of days, you know, I kind of miss that, like wanting like nothing sounds good in those days, Like nothing sounds.

Good to eat.

So I would love to get off of it and not have that, But I can.

I wouldn't see it as an addiction for me, I don't think.

But also I don't want to gain the weight back so well.

And I think that's the tricky piece of it, especially for her too, because like she's a model, right, and so if she's a lot of people that I saw were saying, well, why are you even on it?

Yeah?

You are in great shape, And so I think that then maybe sends a message to other women sure, going well I look the same, should I be on it?

Right?

And then it's because she looks great, yeah, But if she comes off of it, that's then where the right the addiction piece might play, where it's well, I don't want to I want to stay this.

Weight, yeah, and especially if she's getting jobs from it now, I will say, I think that they are really now talking more about like the microdosing and you know, just this minimal amount, taking it every so often so you kind of can stay on it longer and you're not putting as much medicine in your body and you're just maintaining that.

And I think that that's what.

I don't know if that's been proven safe, I don't know.

If it hasn't.

We probably don't even know, but I do think that there is something to that.

And if you're not just going higher and higher and higher and trying to lose more and more weight, I.

Think that that can be a safe way to do it.

There's also differences in each their articular medicine, and some of them are best used for inflammation.

Yeah, so yeah, mind helps benefit inflammation a lot.

And that is another thing I noticed because you know, I was having those joint pains and I was worried I had to arthritis, I mean almost immediately, and I have not noticed it one time since.

I've never been more like you were not joking, like, because he told me it would help with the inflammation.

So is it that bad that if I came off of it, I couldn't deal with it.

No, But if someone has really bad inflammation and it's helping, that would be that's a good point.

That could be very addictive because essentially it's helping with something that's painful because of inflammation too.

Yeah, but it helps with a lot of things.

I have that personality around weight, so it would be it can be a slippery slope.

For me, and I truly don't, which is odd because I even think because he was like, Oh, let's put you on this one if you want to stay longer term.

I'm like, literally, like, if I gain it back, I gain it back like I've been thirty pounds.

It's not the end of the world for me.

It truly isn't.

But I don't have that relationship with weight.

It has been great to lose it, and I've enjoyed it.

It's not going to mentally affect me that much if I were to gain it back, but a lot of people it would.

It absolutely would.

I mean, I'm in sizes difference, you know, smaller and stuff like that.

I'm still at like a little over thirty.

I'm just maintaining now.

Yeah, I'll lose like a pound or two, just maintenance, and then towards the end of that, because I'm on do every two weeks now, I'll go back up to where I am and I'm I'm great with where I am.

Could I lose more, sure, but I'm fine.

I'm happy.

I'm great where I'm at, and I feel you know, I feel good and all the things.

So, but I could see where people may want to.

I could have upped my dose months and months ago.

I just never did.

I didn't want to do that, but a lot of people will keep upping their dose, keep losing weight, and then it can you know.

And a lot of people are not doing it through a medical professional, which is tricky.

Yeah, there's a lot of like these third party websites and like people are injecting themselves of what they think is these weight loss drugs.

And they aren't weight loss drugs.

I just read an article about that.

So it's like, and you're getting blood work regularly, which I think is also important.

Yeah, and it's tricky.

And I will say though that there are some other positives really coming out, like about the like the alcohol stuff and alcohol addiction.

It's really helping with that because you just do not feel like drinking on this on this drug.

I don't know what it is, but it's there's a lot of positives that are coming out of these things too that I want people to know.

Yeah, there are probably negatives you know that they have listed that we don't know, but there are some good positives from it too.

When is it okay to bring a sick kid to a party, so a running nose alone doesn't scare me.

A lot of kids are going to have running watery noses in the winter season.

It can be from the cold weather, it can be from alergies in the fall.

Sniffle's not going to do much damage, especially with good hand hygiene.

She was saying that, speaking of fevers, checking your child's temperature with a fancy scanner's unnecessary.

Shearman's she recommends a standard in your thermometer for kids over two months old, for children less and obviously we know rectilly is the thing.

You should actually stay home if you wake up and have a fever, If you wake up and you're vomiting.

Her diary, lah blah, blah blah.

I want twenty four hours symptom free before we are going to a party.

Because you have a fever, you are at your highest contagion point.

Do you all agree with that?

Have you ever brought a sick kid to a party?

I've And what are your thoughts when a sick kid comes to your party?

That's funny, isn't it.

Thought It's a little different, you know, like if it's your kid versus if someone brings a kid.

But like I am not opposite.

Well, I'm like a germs to yourself for us and for this, I actually kind of am too, essentially.

But I will say that Emmy's birthday is right before Christmas, and when she was young, she was sick every year on her birthday and I would have to send a thing, Hey, she's sick, but we're still having the birthday party.

Come at your own risk kind of thing, you know, But generally, candle, probably I wonder.

I actually really when they were that honesty.

Yeah, I remember she was like, really didn't feel good at like her second birthday, and it ended up being kind of small, but it was like I was paying for the place.

I was like, we'll just go on our own if we have to, And then several sweet people came and just washed their hands and like, you know whatever.

But yeah, I mean, like every birthday, but I do generally try to stick especially fever.

If they've got a fever, we're not going.

Yeah.

I've never been a twenty four hour fever person.

I'm like a solid forty eight or longer.

Oh wow, I mean probably, yeah, I probably do twenty four.

I'm just longer.

I also just I think because.

I got feel good and it's been past twenty four, like you're gone, You're going to you're going to school, you know what I mean, it's been.

So Leggie was so sick when he was little, so so sick that I just won't I'm like, very much, we keep our germs to ourselves because I just remember I have like PTSD from that sure because he was in they were going to admit him for RSV, but they said if he got anything else, it could be fake fatal.

Yeah, and I just am now like because like a stuff he knows to an adult could be RSP to a kid.

Right, So I'm just such a think of like birthday parties versus school, Like school is such like the pressure of like oh you can only miss so many days, but don't come back and then I mean there's so much pressure there.

I'm like, especially as they get older and like these grades matter and stuff.

I'm like, do you want me to keep my sick kid home?

Or do you want to send me a note because she's missed too much school?

Like That's where I get frustrated.

So, yeah, there are probably times that my kids have gone to school before they should.

Yeah, they I mean they kind of force you into it, they kind of do.

I mean it's kind of this cause now a birthday party it's kind of like, okay, yeah, but I think it's heads up my party say we can skip the birthday party.

Yeah, but I like a heads up.

Yeah, Like I have said to people before, like I and probably one of you two, to say like we've had a running note.

Yes, we've had this, we've had that, We're feeling fine, we have no fever.

You've done that several times.

I think the courtesy text is the way to go.

Always it's like, hey, got to I would never bring a kid over if they have a fever.

I mean, obviously besides my wedding that was a whole other situation, But with this situation, I think it's like, hey, they've got a snotty nose, runny.

Just want to let you know, no worries if you don't want to come over.

And then I also appreciate that text as well, because normally now third kid, I'm like, I don't care.

It's fine, right to get the germs from the other two or preschool or school.

So like, thanks for the heads up, that's what I appreciate, but do not this is what I don't f with the stomach bug.

No, that ain't coming any I want you to be a week out solid like no, because that runs through a house like crazy, So that's I don't mess with that.

Like if anyone says even their tummy hurts, I'm like, it's okay, we'll wait.

Yeah, yeah, we're good.

You know.

We also are big on rest when we're sick, so like we are pretty good.

Like if someone's sick in our house, like we quarantine, Like you're sick, you go upstairs and you sleep.

You need fluids and you need sleep, and I we're big on that.

And it's not been great with because people don't seem to understand that as well.

But like we've always been pretty good at that, Like nope, we're sick, we're hunkering down and staying in boom.

There's the season for that.

Yep.

I need help settling a parenting debate in our house.

My daughter wants to wear whatever she wants, and honestly, I'm inclined to let her rocket and head out the door with confidence.

My husband, though, wory she'll be made fun of by O their kids.

It's made me question whether I should be focusing more and protecting her from judgment or on helping her feel confident in who she is how would you approach this.

Oh, that's a good one.

You're so old.

I don't even think that piece matters.

I just wonder.

Yeah, but I do wonder about because if he's saying there's judgment, maybe that's somewhere in the elementary well.

I wondered.

At first I thought it was like wearing like princess dresses.

Well, at first I thought it was like close the show too much.

But then when he said worried about her being made fun of, that to me means more like her own style.

That's maybe not like what everyone is wearing.

And I think that's tricky because obviously, if she's okay with it and she wants to wear it, nothing's happening, no one's saying anything, or she doesn't care, but at some point something might be said, and that's hard.

You want to protect them from that.

But also I think let them be themselves, and then if they get to a point where someone says something and they want to change that, then you let.

Them change it.

Yeah.

I agree.

I mean there's some points where I'd be like, girlfriend, you know you're wearing two different pairs of socks, right, right?

Or do you want to, you know, change that and she's like no, I love.

I'm like okay, yeah, you know.

And it's like there will be a day when she's not gonna want to wear that because maybe someone will say it or whatever.

But it's I don't know.

I say, let them rock it with confidence.

You guys know my opinion.

Do what you want.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean I can see the element of like, oh no, someone's probably gonna say something and you want to protect them from that or whatever.

But I struggle with like my kids want to dress like slobs when I want them to like dress decent.

I'm like, take your sweatpants off and put on some nice clothes.

Like That's where I struggle.

This all I've got.

I'm like, well, buind some clothes that are decent.

I know it is tricky because we've really gone to ath leisure as a society.

Yes, me and my son have gotten into this so much.

Like you need clothes where you look presentable.

You can't just be out in sweatpants all the time.

I wore sweatpants to dinner last night, and I kind of felt it for myself.

I was like, shame on me, and no one cares.

I mean, yeah, but it was like percent of the time, it's fine, but there's sometimes I feel like we got to like present ourselves a little bit.

Well, we kind of just stopped caring, which is a society like I love.

Yeah, and like my little old ladies, they get to wear something, you know that like yeah, we kind of do dress up a little bit.

Yeah, like you care, Yeah, we care.

I think if it's something where they're wearing, you know, maybe like this crazy wild head I, you know, that's where it's kind of like, all right, baby, let's leave that for home.

You know.

Yeah, if it's distracting maybe to learning environment or something, I could see that.

That's where maybe I'd come in there too.

Where it's you you know, they might get made fun of the listen, like that one time when I got made fun of wearing what I wore to school that one time from Evan Macomb.

Oh me, Evan Macomb.

I didn't wear it ever again.

Yeah, well that's what I'm saying.

It'll you know, it'll take care of itself.

And I didn't know that food Boo meant for us by us.

I cannot handle Michigan.

Forgot about that.

That's funny.

Yeah, so I will say I would never wore it again.

And then I told my mom, because she had fifty dollars, that was the most expensive thing that she spent all her money on for that Christmas.

And I had to lie to her and tell her that I lost it.

But really I cried in school.

So opposite for me, I wore Okay, I hope Monica's listening.

Monica and I made a promise when we were in fifth grade going into sixth grade that no matter what, we would wear our own style in sixth grade.

And so I went out to Mervin's.

Do you remember a little trip down memory lane?

And I remember getting these penny loafers.

I'd wanted them forever, and you know, we didn't, I think like most families back then specifically, but it was very much like, here's your five items for school, and you will wear this until you absolutely can't fit in them anymore.

And I got the I got the teal little jeans that I wanted and these penny loafers, and I popped the penny in and I went to school and she did not wear what she wanted to wear.

She wore what everyone else was wearing.

And it was the moment.

Where I was like, you know how you feel like very movie like where the whole world like it's just like a spotlight on you.

Yeah, And there was some comments made and I knew that I couldn't, like, we weren't going to go buy more things, and so there I was penny loafing that.

But at like, I think it strengthened a muscle in me that made me not care.

And now look at me, which is I truly don't care.

I think some people.

Yeah, I do think it would be hard for me though.

But it was a different world.

Also, I will say that this isn't no social media, No, I mean I think bullying was.

Way, way significantly less.

Yeah, but if my child came and wanted to be like super like gothic or you know, a style that's just really out there, like every day all day with her, it would be hard for me to just I know that I need to probably just embrace that and let them, but I would admit that would be hard for me.

Well, I mean, look at Northwest, that would be really hard.

That just she just said, you know, for those of you that were upset about my finger, you're saying she did the things that you know she's twelve, so I saw that thing come out.

So it's like, you know, if if love Ramsey and Jolie, it's like would to you, right, yeah, but you want them to express their how they want to dress, and that would be hard.

Yeah, it would be really hard.

You want them to be either.

Some people don't, you know, a lot of some people don't want to wear the sparkly like there's still Jolie has this really cute little sparkly sequency things.

She's like, no, no, like it.

I'm like, it's so cute, but she's not that right or early in some moments like that, you know, we're going through the same thing where I'm like, but this is great and textured and loves like I like the plain white one and I was like, I'm dying to slow death.

But that's fine, make me up the but yeah, so I mean you know what to do, mama, Okay, ladies, I love you, Love you, chat soon,