[SPEAKER_00]: In case you and I were online configurator, configuring some trucks, and there's a catch.

[SPEAKER_00]: These are the coolest pickup trucks that we can't have.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the other cool thing is that this is something we get to do a work.

[SPEAKER_01]: Go on your computer and configure trucks as you can't order here in the States.

[SPEAKER_00]: But we do, thank you for reminding me that our jobs are actually something that I do at home.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's really fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's really amazing and it thanks to you guys So you support us on patreon.com A slash TFL car, which is our only patreon page.

[SPEAKER_00]: You also listen to this podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: You also watch our videos and that allows us to [SPEAKER_00]: be grown men that are playing with trucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: It helps fuel our addiction and through that we've been able to put together a little list of like you said some trucks particularly from other markets that we don't get here in the States, but that would be really cool trucks to have.

[SPEAKER_00]: incredible vehicles.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to start with this one because when when we were discussing this preparing for this episode this truck popped into my mind and this is the Land Cruiser 70 series from Australia and if you know anything about Land Cruiser 70 series usually means several decades they go, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it goes back what to I think the 80s.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but this is a vehicle that's currently produced and built and sold in markets like Australia.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're watching us on TFL talk channel, you can actually see some of the images in some of the videos that we're showing.

[SPEAKER_00]: But just imagine a very squared off.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, retro looking, retro-styled brand new pickup truck that's meant [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think most people that are listening to this podcast probably know what a 70 series looks like.

[SPEAKER_01]: But this truck version that we have pulled up, it's got a trade bed, which I also love.

[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the trucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: But about half of them that we're talking about today.

[SPEAKER_01]: Have trade beds and they're australian because it really gets some some rat trucks some the coolest vehicle.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will say it's not on this list, but one thing that I also wish that we had in the side of the youths, youths, yes, some youths.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is that for the use?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_00]: Are you?

[SPEAKER_00]: You?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe we could pull a youth up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about some of you.

[SPEAKER_00]: How about a hold on you?

[SPEAKER_01]: Not maybe the traditional truck in the way that we would use it for towing and I talk about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like basically kind of a car platform with a pickup truck bed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Australia, I got that right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, unfortunately, some of these holdings, I mean, there are no more, but true.

[SPEAKER_00]: But still, I mean, this is something we could explore and maybe maybe some people, you know, some manufacturers might bring it back.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what we're primarily talking about today are [SPEAKER_00]: more traditional for the drive body on frame trucks absolutely so we got to talk about some specs because we're talking about something called the 70 series GX which is nothing to do nothing to do with the Lexus it's about as far from a Lexus as any Toyota products can get because it's got an exposed frame and suspension underneath the tray bed and [SPEAKER_01]: It's not very refined.

[SPEAKER_01]: The interior is very very simple, but these are really cool trucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can get them as gas or as they might say in Australia petrol and you can also get them diesel versions.

[SPEAKER_01]: They've got snorkels, four-wheel drive, really, really cool trucks.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think, for example, here on the table in the studio, we have a model of R.C.

[SPEAKER_00]: U.A.Z.

[SPEAKER_00]: event, my Russian 4x4 van, which kind of combines at retro style, and like, I'm working to a less swap it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this is up my alley.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if you buy a 70 series GX truck in Australia, you don't have to do anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just go to the dealership and you buy it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's retro cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: I get what you mean.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a factory retro vehicle because its roots do go back or really long ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: Look at it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Look at it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Look at it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Look at it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's still got those looks.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like the body color match tray bed.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's also a really nice look to it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So these are super cool trucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: Crew cab is pretty cool, but the single cab with a longer bed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because [SPEAKER_00]: ultimate efficiency like utility right efficient utility because you have you know two or three people could sit in it You know two people comfortably a maybe not three Unless you're putting somebody on the console in the middle, but look at the interior What else do you need just a few events you operate manually a steering wheel?

[SPEAKER_00]: Wait a minute.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is that an automatic that one looks like an automatic in this photo?

[SPEAKER_01]: But I believe you can get a manual transmission on these is this also a solid front axle?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah, so yeah, that's also really hardcore.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's awesome stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's something I wish so why can't we get it here will will would it sell?

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that's a good question.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Toyota has the Tacoma here, which is the best seller met size.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have the Tondra, which is very, very refined.

[SPEAKER_00]: But with this sell here.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it would be a mass market seller because as much as enthusiasts love this kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the average person going shopping for a pickup truck, [SPEAKER_01]: wouldn't really understand it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it is, it's very old school.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be as refined as something with independent front suspension.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's going to be so we got to talk about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've got to talk about price because if you're watching this and we click on the configurator right now and it says starts at 92,000.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've got to explain this.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of a shocking number to look at.

[SPEAKER_01]: You got to [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the conversion like a $100,000 US would be like $70.67,000 Australian, so when you see $90 or $100,000 on some of these trucks in Australia that we're looking at, they're still pretty pricey, but that's more like $67.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we're just comparable to like, uh, at the coal material depro, I mean, that's 65 grand.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we're, we're looking, but you're looking at the vehicle with a lot of payload and a lot of just utility built into it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool, but that truck imported here into the states with the check-in tax would be very expensive for the features.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that would put people off.

[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely puts people off with the Ineos Grenadier.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a master.

[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: because that truck is- Which actually looks similar to this.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in some ways, it's a little more boxy.

[SPEAKER_01]: The grenadier doesn't have a tray bed like this, which unless you go to J couch and get a dirt box bed.

[SPEAKER_01]: Our buddy makes a little bit more of a rugged bed for it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that puts people off the quartermaster because it's pricey for what you get on the inside.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it would maybe be the same case for this.

[SPEAKER_01]: There would be some enthusiasts that would go for it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it would be a mass market seller, but I would like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they we need to figure out how to build it in the U.S.

[SPEAKER_00]: or North America in order for it to make sense for sure which would be difficult.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's look at something else.

[SPEAKER_00]: Should we stay with Toyota for a little second?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because this is one that Roman specifically requested that we mentioned.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so Roman is not on the studio with us, because he's actually on an event, working.

[SPEAKER_00]: But everybody always brings up, where's the highlights?

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, whenever you talk about Tacoma or pickup trucks or mid-sizeders, everybody always says highlights, highlights.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's possibly the most legendary name in truck durability.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it comes with, you know, years ago, Todd Gear did a story about trying to destroy a highlights, you know, an older version of it, they couldn't do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: other people like Whistling Diesel try to destroy one, they also had trouble destroying it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and even before then, I mean, those couple instances, popular instances of people showing how durable these trucks are were spurred on by the fact that it already had a reputation.

[SPEAKER_01]: for being very durable.

[SPEAKER_01]: These are also very cool trucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can also get it with a diesel, just cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of diesels that we don't get here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's kind of a version to diesel in small vehicles in the United States.

[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we still have and love heavy-duty diesel pick-up trucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a few different versions of this highlights.

[SPEAKER_01]: They've got to work my work, mate.

[SPEAKER_01]: Work, mate.

[SPEAKER_01]: You have a pretty good, that's fairly nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not really.

[SPEAKER_01]: The tray bed is interesting on this highlights because there's a big gap between the frame.

[SPEAKER_00]: What can you put in there?

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you could put like a spare tire.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe you could make a little cubby.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cubby, maybe a sled out drawer.

[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you also have like SRSR5's version of called the Rogue Highlux Highlux Rogue and also GR Sport which is their kind of more sporty versions.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Sportbar on the SR5.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Different Sportbar on the Rogue, what about the GR's?

[SPEAKER_01]: And they also have Sportbar on the GR's sport.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel what?

[SPEAKER_00]: And they're also have like aftermarket companies like ARB, which is very very popular.

[SPEAKER_01]: But 80 for this seemingly top model high looks in Australian dollars.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what is that call?

[SPEAKER_00]: Can you convert 81,000 like to 50ish?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's like high 50 or mid 50.

[SPEAKER_00]: 54 thousand.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know that would be that would be a pretty good price if it was here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be competitive with like a Ranger Raptor Yeah, and I think I think But here's the thing and Roman actually wasn't you know in the highlights, you know of [SPEAKER_00]: International version of one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually have never driven on.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you have.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, wait, you drove a high-lock surf recently, which is an SUV.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[SPEAKER_00]: But 30 years old.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the thing about the high-lux and also a lot of other international mid-sized trucks, they're actually smaller than our mid-sized trucks, because their wheel bases are a little bit shorter.

[SPEAKER_00]: They just have a little bit more compact [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's sort of a hard to tell from the photos, but this is probably a little bit smaller than you might expect There's another Highlux though and this caught my eye recently and Cole our producer We were just looking at some high-lux champs.

[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about this champ?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so this is interesting is this also called the imv0.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so this is a really affordable little Toyota truck that it's almost like a cave vehicle like a cave pickup Yeah, it's from Japan.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's very it's very compact very boxy it almost has [SPEAKER_01]: some of that 70 series styling a little bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a tray bed, which we have in other images of this or is this the only because it looks kind of ugly in this picture.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a little 2.4 liter diesel.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, it's even though it looks a lot much better without a bed.

[SPEAKER_01]: Exact same angle same color, just no bed.

[SPEAKER_00]: But look at the, how simple the interior, it's a manual transmission and it's basically available in like regions like Thailand, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a manual transmission and a diesel.

[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that, how the interior is pretty fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: Red, red, trim around the interior.

[SPEAKER_01]: We think clothes are red or orange.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.

[SPEAKER_01]: This, this sparks a lot of debates.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's orange orange.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to say I may I may need to check my eyes at the doctor.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for a color Look the the tray bed is flipped down.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, they got the bed size fold down.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty sweet So this is cool people say it's around $10,000 like they were showing there is a diesel option for it Manuotransmission.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's all really cool [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but this little champ, I love the name, by the way.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Hilux champ.

[SPEAKER_00]: High-lux champ.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it'll ever be sold in the US, because, you know, the safety regulations, even, I mean, we're not even talking about the missions and, you know, making the engines comply with certain regulations, but talking about safety on American highways and interstates.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of these vehicles like this little champ probably won't be able to pass a lot of the safety test.

[SPEAKER_01]: It would be a challenge to get it set up to sell here in the States and like we said, if you wanted it to still be affordable and manufacturing would have to be here as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So let's switch the manufacturers.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, let's talk forward a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is quite a few Toyota's that we like.

[SPEAKER_01]: But, the next truck is a truck that we've talked about a bit in the past, because this is...

Huckered when knocked.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is genuinely anywhere in the world.

[SPEAKER_01]: One of the coolest, if you ask me, one of the coolest trucks on sale period.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is the super-duty version of the Ranger, once again in Australia.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you do go down there about that.

[SPEAKER_00]: We need to go down down there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Some of these trucks have tray beds as well, which I appreciate.

[SPEAKER_01]: You could get it at sing cab extended cab crew cab I guess him for it's be super cab, but yeah, you could get single cab Extended cab super cab.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: All that stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah [SPEAKER_01]: And they've got a decent amount of underbody protection.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can spec some cool options like rock sliders, dual batteries.

[SPEAKER_01]: Front and rear locking diffs.

[SPEAKER_01]: Front and rear lockers.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's also an eight lug hub.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Really cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's got a little three-lear V6 diesel.

[SPEAKER_01]: Also really cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: Snorkel.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: The really impressive thing though is the towing and the payload.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Cole, if you scroll down on this website, we're looking at that Australian website for Ford.

[SPEAKER_00]: So 4500 kilograms of towing.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost 10,000 pounds.

[SPEAKER_00]: Approximately 10,000 pounds of towing.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is like F-150 capability.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's a smaller vehicle.

[SPEAKER_01]: right around 2,000 kilograms of payload, which is, which even if it was just 2,000 pounds of payload, that would be pretty impressive, but that's more like 4,000 pounds of payload.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just over 4,000 pounds of, this is like, Julie's, this is like, duly super-duty territory.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is really mind-boggling.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's got a, what, 34 roundabout gallon tank when we did the conversion?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: So pretty massive fuel tank too, especially for diesel, the range this truck would have would be fantastic.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if you look at it, so if you look at some other pictures, it basically looks like a ranger we get here.

[SPEAKER_00]: The hood, the fenders, the doors, the cabin, the headlamps, a lot of the components.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like if we were to ask for it, you know, just bring it here.

[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the components are already there.

[SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately, and we don't have a statement from Ford on this, but it might cannibalize some other sales, right, because they do have F-250, F-350 trucks that are more expensive potentially in this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we looked at some pricing on this, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it is not cheap.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, this one is not.

[SPEAKER_01]: Starting around 100,000 Australian.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's starting around 60, 70,000.

[SPEAKER_01]: So how about the west end of the cab?

[SPEAKER_00]: Can you click on the middle one?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So let's pretend we're in Sydney.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we'll 20, 26.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: So 101,000 Australian dollars translates to what's 70,000.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right about 70,000 dollars in the US.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So once again, and then do have some options full time for Will Drive, too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this is pretty crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a really cool truck.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go ahead and say it that of everything we're talking about on the list.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one that I like the most.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I might agree with you except the next truck.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just wait until.

[SPEAKER_00]: But just one more second on this one.

[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why I think it's a really amazing, you can park it in most garages, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: not massive yeah the footprint it's not super tall like it's basically on 33's right so it's not super super tall it's not lifted it does have of course a snorkel it seems everything in the Australia must have a snorkel yeah we've seen a lot of trucks today with snorkels so so it's compact it has insane capability it's very expensive but I think you get a lot of value out of that money right [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as far as it being rugged, this is definitely a truck that you could take into some very unforgiving conditions.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's also a truck that's got a lot of utility, a lot of capability, a decent size bed, a lot of towing, a lot of payload, like we said.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it checks all the boxes.

[SPEAKER_01]: You'd be amazing to take it for a drive, so maybe I should call for it.

[SPEAKER_01]: We might have to go too Australia, I've been saying this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm with you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to Australia.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, make a trip.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right speaking of other countries Wait until you see this pick up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm I'm interested so you have written down here Chevy Montana, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very American sounding truck, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we call thought so too Montana, but look at this bam went off [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: So this is kind of a Ford Maverick competitor.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but Andre, I do believe this is powered by a three cylinder.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the best power because it's compact.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's very efficient.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I like motor cycles with three cylinders.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I...

[SPEAKER_00]: But listen to this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Your fiance drives a vehicle, which is a Broncosport, which is also available sometimes with a three-cylinder engine, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying anything bad about her.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's got a big motor.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's got the big two leader, she stepped it up, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if you are a little bit more conscious of fuel efficiency and just, let's just, pretend that I am.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, pretend that you want to.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, those engines exist.

[SPEAKER_00]: Chevrolet also has some three leader, I'm sorry, three cylinder engines, especially like the trailblazer, the little, you know, the little crossovers, the little tiny ones.

[SPEAKER_01]: Tracks, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: The trucks?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that also has one, you know, so that's a proven technology.

[SPEAKER_01]: In a while since we've been in a tracks.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know, you and I went out to...

We went to the launch event in a tracks, I don't remember anything about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was cheap.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do remember that.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I remember one thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was starting under 20K.

[SPEAKER_00]: You still, I just think it does any more.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit more than that.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was actually a pretty decent car for the money.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but imagine if you take the tracks and cut off the rear section, make it a bed, and now you have a Maverick competitor.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, framing it that way, I do appreciate it a bit more.

[SPEAKER_01]: If this truck started here in the States, if it was offered here and it started under $20,000, [SPEAKER_01]: Then I would be happy about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is a Brazil Brazilian market?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one of them, one of the markets is in Brazil for this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Cole, can you maybe find a configurator for like a 2025 Chevy Montana?

[SPEAKER_00]: Should be easy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Should be very easy to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just have to go speak Portuguese.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, easy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Portugais, don't you?

[SPEAKER_01]: Cole?

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Cole's got all I, well, it's not Spanish.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Cole's got a lot of hidden talents.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he can navigate, we can navigate some Chevrolet.

[SPEAKER_01]: New Zillian, ooh, they see, there you go.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

[SPEAKER_01]: In glaze.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're not going to try it and pour them to gasey.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[SPEAKER_00]: So is there one?

[SPEAKER_01]: Look at all these interesting things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this, it's only starts at 141,000.

[SPEAKER_01]: Brazilian dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that doesn't make it look very cheap.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and it also looks kind of sleek and not very trucky I give you that, but I'm just thinking about something You know, Maverick Ford is kind of controlling the U.S.

[SPEAKER_00]: compact segment, right with the Maverick.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, somebody has to come in and somebody has to [SPEAKER_00]: Let's, we're gonna convert to money.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, most like it starts at about 26,000 when you do the conversion.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of more money than I wanted to be with a three-cylinder.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it starts at 26,000.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the Maverick currently starts at 28,5.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if this was built in North America, I don't think I like this more than the Maverick.

[SPEAKER_00]: You don't?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think I like the Maverick more.

[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of agree because the styling on this and this one is a little bit more car-like.

[SPEAKER_01]: This particular angle that we're looking at it from is not the most flattering.

[SPEAKER_01]: It looks a little, a little dumpy to be honest.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you're listening, go, if you Google, if you have any Montana, you can find some dumpy looking angles of them, it shouldn't be too hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, why are you so mean to little Chevy because the next truck we're going to talk about similar kind of thing but objectively better looking The Ram Dakota that was revealed this war Brazil, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and this has underpinnings that are from [SPEAKER_01]: of Chinese manufactured trucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not going to see this Dakota here in the states.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ram has confirmed that they are going to be working on a mid-sized truck for 2027.

[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll build a little bit built in the Illinois.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not this.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is not the truck that's coming here to the states.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if the truck that's coming here to the states looks vaguely like this Dakota nightfall concept.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.

[SPEAKER_00]: Then I would be over the moon because that that I think is cooler than the Maverick and you know what this Ram Dakota truck.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we're looking at the concept.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it will be production for Brazil This is really like a Toyota Hilux competitor right sure it should be almost identical in size It's a little it has a little smaller wheelbase then they like American midsize trucks like the Chevy Colorado and [SPEAKER_00]: So this is a direct competitor in Brazil to the highlights, but I think it looks better.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if you're listening, the way that this concept looks, this is not, the concept is not kind of a bog standard base model.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's an off-road version and it looks like a downsize TRX.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a sport bar in the back with lights on top of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's got the very TRX style hood vent with three amber lights going through it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Rocksliders.

[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty tall, stands to it, off-road wheels with maybe a B-lock capable look to them, you know, it's obviously not just an image, but it's really good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Super cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think we have coal, we have a couple more images if you could cycle through and we're desperately in need of a smaller pickup from still on this, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we evolve, you know, love the older Dakotas, right, several iterations and generations of it, and I think, you know, we want most all manufacturers to be successful, at least I do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think mid-sized truck like this, in the US, if it was done for the US, I mean, it's not going to be exactly this, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: But if it was done for the US, they really, and not in 2027, like they said, they needed now, like needs to be available right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's certainly from statements from RAM, it seems like they are pushing pretty hard to try and get a mid-sized truck out sooner rather than later, because they need it to your point.

[SPEAKER_01]: If it looks anything like this Dakota Nightfall concept, I'll be pretty happy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, how about some of the other vehicles that we don't get?

[SPEAKER_00]: We don't get anything from China.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you've actually driven a really interesting truck that comes from the Chinese market and there's a BYD shark.

[SPEAKER_00]: BWD Shark, Tommy and I actually went to El Paso, Texas, because the BWD Shark is actually sold in Mexico, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So actually, the Mexican market also gets quite a few vehicles, quite a few pickup trucks that we don't get.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they're so close.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: So sometimes they make their way here into the states, and you'll see them driving around.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody, we get sometimes emails from you guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I just saw Ram 1200 or Ram 1000, really, does it have Mexican license plates?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it does.

[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of vehicles from Mexico are actually driving around.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the case here.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a plug-in.

[SPEAKER_00]: kind of range extended hybrid.

[SPEAKER_00]: So most of the power comes from electricity, but it does have a small generator on board to create some electricity.

[SPEAKER_00]: But look at the interior.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's really well made.

[SPEAKER_00]: My only, I guess, complaint about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have to do with size.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually pretty good size.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a rotating tablet screen inside.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty quick, actually.

[SPEAKER_00]: We tested it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But like some of the refinement and the suspension wasn't quite there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's like some of the some of the software, some of the menus and names for the different drive modes were made.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're not really Americanized.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bad Translations or [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: But overall, it's a really cool vehicle.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say it's like cool tech.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like 95% there.

[SPEAKER_00]: If they spend a little bit more time on suspension tuning and you know, just the way it rides.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not too harsh over certain terrain and pavement.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if they find two in some of the interfaces I think this could be a very interesting vehicle and it's not super expensive either I mean relative to some of the other pickup sharks that we have.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so But of course right now there's a lot of just kind of government pressure Against allowing Chinese vehicles to come in yeah, but they're out there.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can't ignore them Yeah, there's there's some interesting products out there for sure [SPEAKER_00]: And that will have a lot of other experience, like we never went to China, so like we never have been driven a lot of other vehicles, like some of them, like you're saying, can float?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's the Yangwing U-8.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a video of one of those driving around in some deep water.

[SPEAKER_01]: Some of their electric cars can jump.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's the U-9.

[SPEAKER_01]: Also, another Yangwing, they're innovating a lot.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yangling is yeah, I think the yangling you nine can jump over like bumps.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or like or potholes Spike strips if you're a crime enthusiast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_00]: We do not condone.

[SPEAKER_00]: We don't by the way jumping over spikes.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, but they I'm talking over a pothole.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it jumps over a pothole, but if you wait a couple seconds in this video, they also jump over spikes.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not saying that they're crime enthusiast.

[SPEAKER_01]: but but there's suggesting it well maybe I don't want to go have far wait wait it's driving itself did you see there's nobody behind I don't think this is a real video okay but they're they're doing an animated demonstration if you're listening it's basically it's very angular supercar [SPEAKER_01]: that has the ability to shove the wheels down and jump the car over a small obstacle.

[SPEAKER_01]: They've been showing it jumping over a pot hole, but here you go.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here's some spikes in the row, I see.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then jumps over the spikes, too.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think you would have to have really good timing, though.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, perfect timing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Unless the car sees the obstacle and times it for you.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this type of active suspension, by the way, is not [SPEAKER_00]: totally out of the world for us, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because for example, like we've worked with liquid spring suspensions on big four trucks before, and those are hydraulic spring shocks, basically cylinders, that are linked together with hydraulics, and they don't just absorb the terrain, they can actually extend down, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So, and they use it for load leveling, you know, they use it for corner leveling, [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's the GLS600.

[SPEAKER_01]: That hops?

[SPEAKER_01]: That bounces.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Which is pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I would also be on board with more vehicles that can bounce and jump in such.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, jumping might be in the extreme like so-off feature.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it could also be useful, like, you know, like we said, load leveling, making sure the ride is actually really plush, but also be off-road capable, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: You can combine those things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think jumping cars is super fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we love jumping raptors and TRXs, and you and I jumped four runners?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

[SPEAKER_00]: The TRD Pro at four runner.

[SPEAKER_00]: We were in the air.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in the air.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was awesome.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted to make a small transition here.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we talked about small trucks that are heavy duty, and we also talked about trucks that we wish would come back like the Dakota.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I recently, the world, do you want to talk about this and where this story came from?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's an interesting truck that has been much forgotten about.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: And Andre actually saw one on the road recently, which is cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: Three days ago, I saw it at a local Costco.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was beside myself.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of few and far between.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I was talking to a buddy of mine named Grant who does a lot of Colorado off-road recovery.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's a big Ford fan.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's had several Ford trucks and one of the Ford trucks that he had at one point was an F-250 light duty This is an interesting chapter in Ford's truck history.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's one that I think a lot of people don't know about Believe it was from 1997 and 1999.

[SPEAKER_01]: They had this F-250 light duty.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's got the body of an F-150 [SPEAKER_01]: but it's got a beefed up frame for axle suspension and instead of a six-log or instead of an eight-log, it's a seven-log wheel and hot.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a website talking about this in detail.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's four trucks.com.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you can actually see it right here.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there's an image of a seven-log wheel, which initially looks normal, but then you start counting.

[SPEAKER_00]: You start counting one, two, three, four, [SPEAKER_00]: So these wheels might be worth their weight and gold.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am not sure what they go for, but it's strange.

[SPEAKER_01]: It would be difficult to find a set of aftermarket wheels for one of these trucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: If that's something that matters to you, but after the F-250 light duty, it turned into the F-150-7700.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and 7700 series package really refers to the gross vehicle weight rating.

[SPEAKER_00]: So basically 7700 pounds, here's another picture.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it was in the era of F series where the F150 was really kind of bubbly and really jelly bean, the jelly bean generation, so late 90s.

[SPEAKER_00]: And look at these, they look kind of beefy.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is a little bit of a modded image.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're driving around and you see a jelly bean F-150 body with an F-250 badge, you know, yeah, that might not be somebody just putting an F-250 badge on an F-150.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's very likely an F-250 light duty, a pretty unique truck.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this concept was also, we can talk about what GM did here, as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: But this concept is kind of like the Ranger Super Duty.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[SPEAKER_00]: We have a smaller vehicle that's not very huge, but you're giving it, you know, upgraded suspension, you know, hubs, we also, you're giving it more payload capability.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the same concept that was done what almost 30 years ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it kind of bridges the gap between an F-150 and an F-250 a smaller truck in a larger.

[SPEAKER_00]: But now the question would come up, why don't you buy a real F-250 then?

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, you could also do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: How about an OBS truck with a big old power stroke?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that sounds good to me too.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good question.

[SPEAKER_01]: But this is definitely an interesting little bit of truck history.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And actually, when you first mentioned it to me, I completely forgot about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But then, and of course, as luck would have it, you know, it rolled into Costco.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a whole one in person.

[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't go inside the store.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was just rolling right next to it.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they didn't drive.

[SPEAKER_00]: But when I saw it, I was like, I totally like flashback.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, yeah, I remember, because I was in college in this era.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember these after 50s rolling around.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it just kind of came back to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: But Chevy did something similar.

[SPEAKER_00]: GM did something similar.

[SPEAKER_00]: There is a call.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can you look up silver out of 1500 HD?

[SPEAKER_00]: Now this is a truck.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is this is what you want?

[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to be careful.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes it came a little bit later.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it was basically this generation kind of angular headlamps.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cat I.

Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it is a cat I.

But then, but then it had heavy duty.

[SPEAKER_00]: I believe there was eight lug hubs.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it really looked like a heavy duty truck except when you walk next to it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It says 1500 on the side.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they're pretty interesting vehicles, I think these are some things that we forget about a lot of times because they weren't huge sellers any of these.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we also talked about Dakota.

[SPEAKER_00]: Roman and I were driving.

[SPEAKER_00]: We were doing a four-deck's position, I can't let.

[SPEAKER_00]: You weren't, you weren't around.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think you were at that time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Harley Davidson.

[SPEAKER_00]: Harley Davidson.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was riding Harley's.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, we were missing you on the highway.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, it was for work.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't for work.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't just out and about.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's work.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but look at what I saw.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm sorry if you're listening to us, but, but you could also watch it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's a crew cab.

[SPEAKER_00]: Dodge Ram Dakota, so an older generation.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, second generation Dakota with a little fifth wheel, a little fifth wheel, single axle camper, which is pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's- Look at that.

[SPEAKER_01]: This whole setup that these gentlemen have going is pretty rad.

[SPEAKER_01]: And look at the quality of the Dakota, the wheels have no blemishes on them.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's got paint on it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's how you know, it's a nice Dakota.

[SPEAKER_00]: It has absolutely paint on it and the paint is shiny.

[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: You could see all the reflections in this paint.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm impressed.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a very impressive little vehicle and it has no badging on the side.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't sure if it was a V6 or a V8 version, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: If we're tone in the mountains, I would hope it's a V8.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because they had several engines available in these decoras.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought it was just the bees' knees.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good combo.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just a cat's pajamas.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you've also got some ideas for truck names.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you and I were doing a different video and I was wondering like, oh, you know what's spread this on?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we were talking about the judge, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also we saw a police Tahoe so-called, I don't know if you could look up an old generation of a Chevy Tahoe police pursuit.

[SPEAKER_00]: But this Tahoe was a police Tahoe lifted with steel bumpers.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, so it would have to be a little bit older and a bad pair of bumpers.

[SPEAKER_00]: It had a really dumpy looking metal bumpers So slightly older like a GMT 800 yeah [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a bad looking set of bumpers that were on this particular police Tahoe.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, so I don't think they bought it for style.

[SPEAKER_00]: But on the side of it, said sheriff.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I came to thinking, why aren't there more really, really amazing, like they have the Trellbas, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Chevy Trellbas.

[SPEAKER_00]: But Sierra has 84, which is kind of an alphanumeric character, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't they have other cool names like the sheriff?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like the sheriff?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Or the other one that you have, I like.

[SPEAKER_00]: the Outlaw.

[SPEAKER_00]: The Outlaw.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, how about this?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think we need some help from our listeners in the viewers too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because, I mean, a lot of names already taken, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, for example, after market companies like Hennessy, you know, they have like the mammoth packages or they have like Velociraptor packages, you know, they have a lot of different cool names.

[SPEAKER_00]: We need more cool names.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like we used to be a lot better at naming things.

[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this on the Karish podcast at one point, but there used to be engines like the Rocket 88, the Blue Flame, High Fire, Transmissions, like Hydramatic and StratoFlight, and all these cool names.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: What happened?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now we have health and numeric.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's just 10L, 10L, 80, 10L, 100.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they also, what bothers me is, like, so for this pretty good at this.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the other manufacturers could learn a little bit more, like, like, ram is good because they have the hemmy badge on their engine.

[SPEAKER_00]: You may not mean the same what it meant, you know, 50 or 60 years ago with really hemispherical combustion chambers.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but even back then too, they had the 446 back.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know they brought the six pack thing back.

[SPEAKER_00]: So still on this actually has some good names that they're, you know, sure, kind of bring their recycling stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're recycling some really good brands and names.

[SPEAKER_00]: For this also pretty good at this, like they have the predator engine.

[SPEAKER_00]: and the good little angel.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Voodoo engines.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ford still has some good names.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: But for something.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where is GM?

[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

[SPEAKER_00]: So they have the Duramax, which is a very strong name, right, for their diesel engines.

[SPEAKER_00]: But their gas V8 engines, I mean, they're a less engines, but they don't have really cool names.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's also, it's very difficult to keep track of all of the operations.

[SPEAKER_01]: All of the different GMs.

[SPEAKER_01]: GMT-400, GMT-800, GMT-900, and then engines that L98, L-T-4, L-T-1, L-T-5, L-S-1, L-S-3, L-S-RX, L-S-2, L-S-AX, yeah, there's a lot of things, Z-06, Z-71, yeah, there's a lot there that's pretty hard to keep track of.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wish they would just give them names like what you were saying forward did.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty cool voodoo.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when you say the predator or carnivore engine, you kind of know it's a supercharged V8 that goes into trucks.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you have association, you know, my Raptors as powered by this amazing predator engine.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's freaking cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you're talking to your neighbor, and they're like, oh, I have a [SPEAKER_01]: Although I mentioned at one point the the predator engine around marrying she didn't think predator was a cool name Which I can kind of understand.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not for everybody, but yeah, you know, I think the food is cool I think about you know the the alien predator.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, the deep the the predator.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, so which is pretty tough So you you mentioned judge.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I mean that was a name from from you know from the past [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, the Judger's Cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe we can get better at naming some stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what is cooler, and I had this conversation with Roman as well, what is better is that really kind of, do you want to be on the side of the law with the sheriff or do you want to be the outlaw and kind of the bad guy?

[SPEAKER_00]: What's?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because like Hellcat sounds like a kind of a bad guy, the jailbreak, the jailbreak is kind of a bad guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Roman's point was you have to be like on the side, you know, just questioning authority.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of where you want to be.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I think both work.

[SPEAKER_01]: because that the judge would also that would be more on you decide what to do you are the fighter thinking that kind of judge.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you could make a car called the bailiff might not work as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: How about the the juror?

[SPEAKER_01]: The juror?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not also not as cool but [SPEAKER_01]: But it is kind of interesting though.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like we were just talking about Harley Davidson and Harley Davidson has this this interesting history of being both the establishment because police motorcycles historically a lot of Harley Davidson.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_01]: These motorcycles but also anti establishment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hell's [SPEAKER_00]: You can not do sheriff because if you put a big badge when you're sheriff on the side of your truck Yeah, that would think you're from the police and impersonating an officer.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_00]: You probably shouldn't.

[SPEAKER_01]: Can we strike that?

[SPEAKER_01]: Can we edit that out?

[SPEAKER_01]: Strike that line a reason.

[SPEAKER_00]: So do not impersonate members of law enforcement.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: okay that's that's a good last that's that's our TFL truck tip of the day but outlaw I could see a badge on the side of the truck that says the uh-huh law kind of surprise it hasn't been done already that I know I'm so keep coal can you look up is there I think there may have been like a aftermarket truck uh...

called the outlaw [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it's the GM, well, the GM aftermarket truck I'm thinking of is that there's a monster truck called the Outlaw.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so yes, so absolutely.

[SPEAKER_00]: So why not have a production vehicle name that?

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe in general, we should we should start modeling production trucks after monster trucks.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like the Grave Digger.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maximum home destruction.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: Would you buy a Grave Digger pickup?

[SPEAKER_00]: Calls on board.

[SPEAKER_00]: Calls on the ass?

[SPEAKER_00]: See?

[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know if Mary would go for that.

[SPEAKER_00]: She might not.

[SPEAKER_00]: For a gravedigger.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it depends on the audience, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's still cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like a raptor truck is cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: ZR2.

[SPEAKER_00]: I always had an issue with that name.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I understand where it comes from.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a code, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's basically kind of a purchase order code.

[SPEAKER_00]: Our PO code code from the general motors days like ZL1 and as, you know, and many others.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a ZR2 truck, which is their most capable off-roader, but it has the number two in it, which is two will drive.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it doesn't, which makes no sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have quite as much personality as some of the other names.

[SPEAKER_01]: It also has no X in it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I knew I'd mean you got to have an X.

Yeah, whenever you put an X into a name, then it becomes way cooler.

[SPEAKER_00]: like the Outlaw X.

Perfect.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think we could do without the X is actually.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and also if you want to, so we have a truck alius email, ask it here for truck.com.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you do have some interesting images like a like a dodge decor or a towing a fifth wheel, send it to us.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely and especially to if you're a member on Patreon you can send us some questions some comments exactly We can talk about them here in the podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then yeah, we can we can you know answer some questions from previous weeks We're also going to be regularly recording this podcast live on Patreon [SPEAKER_01]: where we'll be able to interact with people.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there's one more, yes, we are.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there's one more thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Last week, Roman was here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're not.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Roman posed a question to our audience.

[SPEAKER_00]: he asked and Colour remembers this too.

[SPEAKER_00]: He asked two vehicles in the history, they're not necessarily trucks by the way.

[SPEAKER_00]: So his question came kind of tangentially perpendicular to what our discussion was.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but there's two vehicles that are humongously popular.

[SPEAKER_00]: in the current day that were designed by skunkworks group of engineers inside the company that were not sanctioned by the company that were working for, but once the company found out what they were working on then they became insanely popular and they built them.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there's two vehicles and they're [SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know if there's any comments.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cole is looking through comments on our previous episode of people actually kind of guessing and answering some of this, so somebody knows those two vehicles.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, somebody in one of the comments said, Transame, I'm not sure if that's what they were talking about.

[SPEAKER_01]: I do know that the Lamborghini Miroa was initially a vehicle that, I don't think, Frucio Lamborghini was interested in making, but some of the people working with him, like what Berton.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I'm not, I'm just watched the movie of Lamborghini, yeah, yeah, they What I enjoyed it because I wanted to learn, you know, there was a movie about the Ferrari right Mr.

And so but I enjoyed learning more about Lamborghini and what I saw in the movie is that he drew [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know if it was called the mirror at the time, he drew it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But Roman wasn't thinking about, so there's some questions, there's some answers like Mercedes 300 SL, Pontiac GTL.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Roman was not thinking about any of those.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the first one relates to truck, it's the Rubicon Jeep.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the Jeep Rubicon, we actually interviewed some of the engineers, were in this tight little team.

[SPEAKER_00]: They had the Wrangler, basically, when the Wrangler was named after CJ7, the Wrangler named was coming out, and the Wrangler was the thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted it to be more capable.

[SPEAKER_00]: So they went away and they designed something and somebody said You know, we should call it the Rubicon and really do the Rubicon trail And Jeep liked it after that and now it's super popular.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Rubicon was one and the other one I wasn't so sure about but Zach and Roman reminded me that the GTI VW [SPEAKER_00]: the rabbit GTI was actually built or I mean designed but there's another little group of engineers interesting and then became a thing yeah well the more you know so that was very educational I can't get away from trivia on the podcast call every podcast I do is get I have some kind of trivia well it's not my it's not my yeah that's where that's where the Romans fall [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll so-called I promise.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go through all the comments on the previous episode and whoever if somebody gets it's not there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, so because Roman promised to coin or sticker like as a as a as a prize.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, so since nobody guessed it, I guess nobody gets anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it seems like he was looking for a very specific answer.

[SPEAKER_00]: But we did a video about, sorry, I'm just throwing my pen at you.

[SPEAKER_00]: But did the video interviewing the Rubicon engineers?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that story is real.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's out there.

[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't do an interview with the GTI engineers.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it was like a TFL now.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're not saying those are the only two.

[SPEAKER_00]: He, he made it sound like, that after those are the most prominent ones.

[SPEAKER_00]: Could be.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I have to believe there's, there's probably more.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the point we're trying to make.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a historian.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the point we're trying to make last episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, let's go longer now.

[SPEAKER_00]: The point we're trying to make, it's the, that manufacturer's currently kind of took the eye off the ball.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's not a lot of innovation recently in the pickup truck market.

[SPEAKER_00]: as shown by this, you know, we're not getting some of the coolest stuff that other markets are getting, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we're the things we're...

[SPEAKER_01]: asking for in some of these trucks that we lost after our solid axles, these old manual transmissions and tray beds, which that's not innovative.

[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't solidify his innovation.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it's bold.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's basically, it's basically offering something that's really, really rugged and interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if [SPEAKER_01]: what we're looking for is necessarily innovation.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think you could argue that there has been innovation in trucks on board power.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool more driver assistance features hybrid.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot of that stuff that I believe qualifies as innovation and just might not be innovation that [SPEAKER_01]: as many enthusiasts serve interested in.

[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what point the Roman was trying to make is that sometimes even though the establishment may be a little stale at times, there are still small groups of people who love creating something interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Rubicon was a really interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: The GTI was also very interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the point that Roman was trying to make.

[SPEAKER_01]: One, it's, and it's always a great thing when the team that's responsible for developing and bringing to market a vehicle is a team of enthusiasts.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that can materialize in trims like the Rubicon or GTI.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they actually have passion for what they're doing right then they're infusing that passion through it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we like to see that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there you have it.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, pretty cool stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: So just remember outlaw.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, outlaw.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that will be an upcoming truck.

[SPEAKER_01]: But lots of trucks and other markets that we like that we aren't able to get our hands on unless we go to Australia, which I'm not against.

[SPEAKER_01]: Or Brazil.

[SPEAKER_01]: Or Brazil.

[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to go to Australia because they've got a lot of cool deals.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, also a little champ.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want to drive a little champ.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_00]: So who knows, maybe someday it will be possible.

[SPEAKER_00]: Alrighty.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks for joining us and we'll see you next time.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we will have more news.

[SPEAKER_00]: For example, next week is State Fair of Daxes.

[SPEAKER_00]: May not have humongous news, but still nonetheless.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm trying to reserve you going?

[SPEAKER_01]: Not this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: No.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I was going.

[SPEAKER_00]: I really love deep fried sneaker bars.

[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't sound bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've never tried that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got hooked last year.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a quiet taste.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like deep fried Oreo, but I would try a deep fried sneaker.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a quiet taste.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's my own.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I really love being in that area in Dallas and really being in that area.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know if there's enough news for us to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you and I are going to Sima.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we are.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, got that to look forward to.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, thanks a lot, guys.