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Speaker 2All right, heartbreakers, I'm back again today.
We have a special guest.
Her name is CJ.
She's an influencer, a playboy model.
You have an of right, I do.
They keep switching their names.
But do you have a Centerfold account or whatever it's called now?
Speaker 3I did, Yeah, because I did a minute.
Speaker 2Yeah did you delete it?
You got rid of it?
Speaker 3I didn't even delete it.
I think I should stopped using it.
Okay, this isn't really working for me.
Speaker 2So yeah, it's a hard one to just market.
Like, it's just really hard.
Do you have a fansly?
I don't have a fansly?
Speaker 3I do.
I am getting a sex panther.
Speaker 2Okay, so you know what.
I just was talking to my assistant and I was like, should I get a sex panther from when I'm just like flying and I'm there and I don't have anything, like, you know, just another thing for me to to be on my phone about.
But I heard that that's really profitable.
Speaker 3Yeah, I have a girlfriend, Claudia Vijal shout out, she does it.
She had told me that she's like, currently I'm making more money on here than my only fans.
And I think, like you were saying, because it's like a direct line.
Speaker 2It goes straight to your do I mess it or whatever?
You're straight to tell yourself?
You can reply.
Speaker 3Bailey texting you have that feel I thought about.
Speaker 2Doing that and up making a fancy and just being part of every platform and just kind of seeing which one sticks.
I don't know, so.
Speaker 3That's so overwhelming, honestly, I'm so and I struggle with consistency.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3So that's what I like about the sex panther is I feel like it will just be right to my phone.
I did it like back in the old days during COVID, and then I did delete that one because I was kind of trying to minimize like all the different platforms I was on.
But I do remember liking it, and then with Claudia's help, I'm restarting it, so I'll by the time this is live, i'll probably have that going.
So everyone send me related birthday gifts.
Speaker 2Yeah, what is there a user name for sex panther or like, you don't know what you want it to be?
Right, I just use my name okay?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Cool?
Speaker 3You want to try to keep it like your same name r Yeah, as similar as close as possible on all on all your accounts, you know, likeure, Yeah, of course, all of it.
So it's easy for the fans.
But here's my thing, though, I want to like charge a premium, like a premium because if you're going to have like the real text back and forth, because I think only fans you can do it like that, but you can leave.
Speaker 2It delay, Yeah, use mine first.
Sometimes I'm so busy, I leave it for a few hours, right's you know, which I don't know much of a difference.
We're busy.
Speaker 3I cannot always be on there kind of at your like back in Pam.
I'm sorry, that's just like not the vibe for me.
Speaker 2I like to do it on my laptop, and that's a problem.
I can't bring my laptop every place and that sweet.
There's like but text, I mean what I could reply back right, and I'm taking them all the other ones.
Speaker 3The sex panther, So I'm I'll let you know hing fantastic happens.
Speaker 2But like on a charge premium, yeah, like for.
Speaker 3Video chat, Like I'm down to video chat.
You know, there's definitely gonna I'm gonna have different boundaries and stuff, but like, yeah, you're gonna be paying like ten dollars a minute or twenty dollars.
Speaker 2You could charge that much.
Speaker 3I'm gonna charge like the most that I can.
He Oh, so they can.
Speaker 2Call too, so they could call regularly, they could call video, and they can text.
Interesting.
Speaker 3Yeah, to me, it feels like a more direct To me, it's more it is.
It feels like a more one on one.
Speaker 2There was a site that and they're gonna get a free plug right now.
But it was called like by my cell and they had reached out and I was like, wait, I remember the og sex Panthers, So I'm just gonna go with that.
But there's was saying it pop straight into your I message and I was like, just so I don't know.
They have everything now.
I like that they have stuff where fans can really truly like connect and like get that level that they're always wanting for because they're always reaching for that like where they get yes, and that's as close as you can get is actually calling.
Speaker 3Texting and texting.
Like That's why I give the sex Panther a try, because it's different.
Speaker 2Yeah, we still keep your only fans of course.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, absolutely, everyone's.
Speaker 2Bread and butter.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm grateful for my only fans.
Speaker 2So do you do a lot of mainstream work.
You're in a movie, right.
Speaker 3Giant The Giantess.
Speaker 2You know it's a comedy.
Yeah, The Giant has Battle Attack is what it's called.
Speaker 3And I was like topless, n it wasn't serious.
It was completely unserious, which is the way I prefer like to do everything when possible.
Of course some things are serious, but I've been doing this for so long.
I've been doing us like started out in webcamming and have been doing like didy ish for many many years.
And now I'm I just want to have fun with this.
Yeah I did that.
I'm not really doing much mainstream acting.
They're so serious.
I just want to have fun.
I'm restarting my YouTube so that'll probably be like as close as we get to acting.
You seem like podcast.
Speaker 2Yeah, you seem like someone that needs to do like more comedian work.
Like I could just tell by the way you know you're smiling that you just like to be.
Speaker 3Funny and yeah, I've been doing this for too long, like it is not that serious.
Speaker 2Snapchat, I heard that people are making more money on snapchat than they are on YouTube.
Speaker 3So you could do that and Facebook too.
Apparently, why is Facebook keep coming back because Mark Zuckerberg is a lizard person.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, it is going to get all the dollars from all of us, and he's probably making some sort of monetary gain off of me saying that.
Yeah, God, buddy, do you have any you know, because this podcast is about dating in relationship of ice, do you have.
Speaker 2Like a batter or really good date, like what are the other or both?
Speaker 3Oh?
I have bulls?
Speaker 2Oh good.
Speaker 3Actually, I actually want to call myself out because I actually took someone on like the most horrible date ever.
Speaker 2It was a guy.
Speaker 3It was a guy, and we were boyfriend and girlfriend already at the time.
I like wanted to stand out and I planned this super weird date where we went to the Museum of Death.
Speaker 2And where's that at.
Speaker 3It's in La of course, you know what, I don't even know.
It might have even like like the pandemic might have got it.
I don't know, I'm not still there.
It might have died.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Needless to say, there wasn't a lot happening in the Museum of Death, so she was a little barren.
Speaker 2So it was just a bunch of dead people and.
Speaker 3Well it wasn't dead people.
It was like a museum of artifacts having to do with like famous deaths.
Okay, So what was that cult that like put on the air suits and like drank a bunch of like kool aid and they were like we're going to go up in the mothership and death door I don't know, like something like somebody's door.
I don't know, but it's like a famous cult.
It's a famous cult, Heaven's Gate something like that.
They mass unlived themselves and that was like a very famous death.
So there was like some of the air suits they looked like NASA suits and they were on display a bad date.
It was so bad because it's like it was dark.
It was like kind of honestly, I don't think like him and I were in like a good space and the relationship that time, Like that's why I was like trying to be like, oh, let's put some fresh you know, it's just something different in New yek unique, and let's put some fresh life into the relationship.
And I don't know, I took a pick to them, but again I remember, like I can't recall everything, but I remember trying to be like I want to stand out.
I want to do something different, and so I did that and he was like totally getting the hebgb's the whole time.
He wasn't having a good time, and I was like, let's just see this, let's just see that, and I thought that it would be interesting, and he was completely mortified and so he kind of like scurried out.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 3We like went through it really fast.
And then I had planned also to take us to Jembo's Clown Room.
Speaker 2So you just really you picked dates well, like you're like, I am a date planner, that's my specialty.
Speaker 3This was so so bad.
Speaker 2Okay, So Jembo's Clown comes next.
Speaker 3Jumbo's Clown Room is a very unseerious, very silly strip club here in La Okay or burlesque like strip club burlesque show, so vintage vibes, everything dingy, dusty, dirty, and there's like I don't know, little people that are dancing and stripping.
There's like an extra tall woman who was wearing like extra tall shoes, and it's like kind of I don't really know if there's like a very polite way to say this, but it's kind of would be like a freak show circus act where there's people of all different extreme looks, you know, like maybe somebody with a bunch of piercings, a ton of tattoos, somebody very overweight, and they want to I'm telling you, if it was somebody else, we would like I'd have been married on the spot.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know, I like this.
I'm thinking about going.
Speaker 3Now, you should go, but just bear in mind that, like if your relationship is in trouble and your partner doesn't drink.
Because I was still not I was still drinking at the time, and yeah, I just celebrated five years sober in April.
So I took him to a bar and I was, yeah, I was drinking because at the point at this end, I was like, Okay, this is like a total bust.
The poor guy was like so, you know, he was so miserable.
I think looking back on it, I think he just felt like totally uns scene.
And I can really I can empathize with where he might have been in that mindset where he's just like, why does she think I want to do any of this?
This sucks and I can't blame him.
Speaker 2I like to show you guys broke up.
Speaker 3We didn't like break up, right, afterwards.
But I do believe that that was kind of like the beginning of the end.
We're we're good friends now or we're friendly now, and every now and again, you know, he'll send me a text or whatever.
But like it was very, very bad.
And I whenever I get asked about a bad date, I always call myself out on that story because I'm like, that was so bad.
Speaker 2I liked that you were the one that did the bad date.
Usually people try to share something that happened to them, but I like that it was it was so me.
It was so me.
Speaker 3You know, I'm so fortunate.
I like get really good dates.
I'm currently in a relationship.
Yeah, I'm currently in a relationship.
I'm dating someone, but like I always have good first dates.
Like I'm not going for coffee, I'm not going for a walk in the park.
I'm not like meeting you for something free or like some bean juice.
I'm not doing that, Like why would I I can do that?
Speaker 2You need you need extravagant not necessarily.
Speaker 3I need some thought, I need some detail.
I need to excite it to seould.
Speaker 2Like what would be like just something that's not crazy, like a recommendation for people who are like the girl's not she's not simple simple, but maybe he can't do something too extreme, like what would somebody like you?
What would it make you happy?
Speaker 3So, first off, I love that you asked me that, because I think this is a very good learning lesson.
You do not have to have a lot of money to impress a girl.
Paying attention is free.
Mm hmm, it's free.
It's within everyone's budget.
And if you pay attention, you know you can see.
So like somebody like me, you could say, Okay, well I don't have a lot of money or fair point, I don't know this girl just yet.
I'm not necessarily interested in taking her out for.
Speaker 2The full all day dollars or something that's all day or whatever.
Speaker 3So like, okay, CJ's sober, so take me.
You know, google like a non out acoholic bar, which they're around, or google ideas for like a non alcoholic themed dates or something like that.
Speaker 2Or you could do like I just saw the other day there was like olive oil tasting instead of like wine tasting.
Or I guess you like cunativity, Yeah, you like uniqueness creativity if you don't have a lot of money, I think that that's a space where a man could really stand driven.
I was trying to explain this to people, like rich men always want to date me and stuff like that, and I get so turned off by how like they're not humble, and I'm like, I just put someone creative that listens.
Just because you want to fly me around on a private jet.
It doesn't feel fulfilling.
This doesn't feel like a nice date to me.
I'd rather you listen to what I want, what I like.
Speaker 3Well call your girlfriends if you want them to listen to you, though, These motherfuckers, I know, but if I am there, they're egotistical.
It's they want to do to somebody.
Speaker 2I would love somebody creative that doesn't creative ones broke, sweetie, I don't.
Speaker 3Piece of wood on the side of.
Speaker 2That broke.
I don't know about that broke.
But I don't mind someone with a regular, like regular income, you know, I don't.
I really don't.
You're like, I.
Speaker 3Would prefer someone to be on the wealthier side.
I don't know if I would be truly fulfilled, because I do.
I don't want to have to work, and I would really hate to potentially place that burden on a man who is like only has enough to maybe so.
Speaker 2Take care of himself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean at least you could be open about that.
A lot of women don't want to admit that that's what they're looking for because it's a little you know, that's how it used to be that men would take care of their wives and their families, and it's not necessarily like that.
But I like that you're able to admit that instead of.
Speaker 3Oh no, no, I don't you know.
It took me.
I had a lot of my love language's gifts and I did a lot of therapy around that.
I had a lot of shame around that.
When I grew up, we didn't, you know, have a lot of money, which is true for most people growing up, and there's things that I went without in childhood like many of us.
But for me, I don't know why the childhood and I hate to use the word trauma because it wasn't really that traumatizing, but like the childhood memories manifested in the way that I feel extra loved when somebody gives me a gift, But that is what it is, and I've done my work around that to know that, like just because somebody gives me a gift doesn't necessarily mean that we're in love and we're going to run off and get married, but it does make.
Speaker 2Me feel good.
Speaker 3And I had a lot of shame around that for many years, and now I just don't And if somebody was to say, well, you know, I don't believe in that, then I would just simply say, okay, not much.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean that is a love language, is gift giving.
I mean, I can really in a lot of different ways where I don't feel like I got enough verbal like compliments and stuff like that.
So my love language is words of affirmation, and it manifests in other ways, you know what I mean.
So I fall in love with people who compliment.
Speaker 3That's wonderful.
Speaker 2It's no, it's the most manipulative one to have.
All it takes is someone to be like, baby, I'm proud of you and all that, like, so you love me?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 2And people lie so much.
It's so easy to a lot of people.
I believe everything.
People say.
You have to lie back, girl, to lie back and stop it?
Yeah you have yeah, yeah, lie back?
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Do you know this year?
They no, it's not.
Actually this year I worked on so hard.
I learned the year prior that my dishonesty does cause karma, and even if the and I could be very dishonest out of revenge to people and once I feel like hurt like that, and it really just caused a lot of havoc in my life and it was detrimental to my mental health.
So this year, I really because see, not no matter what, even if I feel pressured, I have to just tell the truth and otherwise honestly i'd lie back.
Speaker 3That's that's beautiful.
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 3I don't believe in karma.
Speaker 2You don't know I believe in it.
I've seen so many people like I've actually cut people off or I'm like, your karma.
I could see your karma is so bad, and I could see it affecting.
Knew that I don't want whatever's happening to you happened to me.
But I used to break hearts like insane, insane in like it was like when I was sixteen, I had this guy he cried in my driveway for three hours.
My mom had to come home from work and shoot him away because because he was so heartbroken.
And I used to just be like like that's how I would react to people.
Speaker 3And I'm not your problem.
Speaker 2It's not.
But I could see them getting towards that, and I'll kind of like not shut it down.
And that's like, you know, so I've seen a lot of I've had a lot of karma in that, breaking people's hearts and not being honest with my own feelings.
I used to say I love you back when I didn't feel it.
You know.
Speaker 3It was like that's a big one.
Yeah, that's a big no no, because they just like you more when you don't see it.
Buck anywaysh sure.
Speaker 2You know when someone's like, you know and then you just have to do it.
But you said you have a boyfriend.
He gave you that nice crystal.
You shut our crystals out here there watching video.
Speaker 3Yes, when I walked in, you had your crystal all laid out and this space was right.
Speaker 2Perfect and with it and with the other ambithets.
Speaker 3Yes, this is my boyfriend just gave me this.
August sixteenth was my birthday, so that was just a few days ago.
Is he riches, Yes, he's rich.
He's very successful, good wealthy, doing well.
Speaker 2Yeah.
And how long have you been together?
Speaker 3We have been together I think probably like six months or something.
Speaker 2Everybody is in these fresh relationships, so everyone's saying like six months for a little while, and I think, you know, like we weren't really sure like which way it was going to go, but then yeah we were like okay.
I was kind of like and he was like, is a younger or older?
Speaker 3He's older.
I've always stated older.
Speaker 2Even how much.
Speaker 3Older he's I think like eighth seven or eight years older?
Okay, yeah, this is like a really good which is younger than I would like typically go.
Speaker 2Oh really, so what would you typically do?
Speaker 3I feel like, honestly, I like ten years is like a good Would you date someone seventy sixty?
No?
Because I want like a probably at least like one kid ideally, Yeah, you know that may or may not happen, but I think at that point, you know, unless they it was like some sort of an anomaly, I think that would be unfair.
Yeah, yeah, you know, like I do it it probably I probably would.
I would date a sixty or seven, would try if I was just like thinking, Okay, I'm not going to get married.
Potentially you're like not going to have kids.
Like if I was single, I'd go out on a date with like some sixty or seven year old guy.
Why not go out on a date and see where it goes.
Yeah, you know, I'm like a big personality girl, and if somebody treats me right ilutely, it wouldn't bother me if I did find a real connection.
That's my one thing.
I do have to have a real connection.
I've had like sugar doggies in the past.
I dated someone that was twenty years older than me when I was twenty five, and I'm so bad at it.
I fall in love because he was like treating me so well.
Speaker 2I do too.
I'm in love with them also, like they can be so disgusting and then it's the protection too, that you feel that it's not just a gift giving, but it is that security and that.
Speaker 3I never had a disgusting one though, like when they're older and they're rich, like if they have bad hygiene or something.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, oh I had the worst one.
Speaker 3Really, Like I had the worst one with the a bad breath.
Speaker 2Oh Like when I tell you his hygiene was so bad, Yeah, yeah, I never I never had that.
He didn't have bad breath.
Okay, So anyways, he gets a hold of me.
He was seeing another girl in the industry, she was like he was her sugar daddy and he just loved me, you know.
So I he bought me Cardier bracelets, Birkins like boyfriend, well like sugar daddy.
It was actually was, but he was like yeah, he was like every girl in the industry kind of knew him, and like everyone was like, oh, that's so and so sugar daddy.
And I was like, I wonder if I could steal him, because this is back what I was waiting for, my bad karma.
So I go to have sex with him, of course, and you can't fuck him and I couldn't do it.
So his hygiene was so insanely bad.
So then I tell my friend.
I was like, she's like I'll do it.
I don't care, you know, like I'll just get him in the shower whatever.
And so she goes and she's like, couldn't do it, you know.
And so he brings us to this like tennis game or whatever.
The us open his ear wax was spilling out of his ear down like this because I made her sit next to him, and I was like that, like try to snatch him up, and it was spilling out, and she's like, you have any help.
It's like his hygiene is so bad.
It's so bad.
Speaker 3It's like I would try to help.
Speaker 2I think it's a lost cause.
In all seriousness, she was like, he needs a Q tip so bad.
Speaker 3I was just sho a Q tip in his ear at the US Open.
Yeah, not like I would go and broke cure one from anywhere.
I could see you're nicer.
I wouldn't even was it had happened.
I would have been so swift with it.
Speaker 2I was stunned.
Yeah he was, but he would buy me.
I would be such a brat to him too, Like my friend has a video where I don't even open up the blocks like his throat and I go, not what I asked for for my birthday.
Speaker 3I mean, if that's not what you asked for, you know.
Speaker 2It was New York and me was very bratty.
Speaker 3I love that though.
I love that Braddy era.
Speaker 2We all like everybody has to go through it.
Like I said, I got my karma.
One of the questions I have for you is bringing it back to OnlyFans.
It's what's the weirdest request have you gotten?
Like anything super crazy?
Speaker 3You know, honestly, I have to say, like all my requests on OnlyFans are like pretty like not tame, but like it's usually just like say this or do this.
Yeah, I feel like I got crazier ones.
When I was webcaming.
There was this one time that I was with like doing a show for this guy, and I knew that he had kind of like a religious fetish, and he wanted me to like make up like a Bible song or like a church song, but like dirty like dirty adjectives.
Okay, so I don't recall this song, but like I'm made up a song telling him to jerk it for Jesus.
Speaker 2Oh my god.
Speaker 3Yeah, and he loved it and he yeah, Like and I I've said this before, like I wish that like there was a recording of this out there somewhere that I could procure somehow.
I remember the song that I was singing it to was the tune of the wheels on the Bus.
Speaker 2Did he Yeah?
Speaker 3He paid me really well.
I don't even know if I would say that now really, because you can like get you know, you can get canceled so fast for all like these religious.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know you definitely.
I wouldn't do it now.
But that's back when caman nobody like really recorded.
Speaker 3Nobody really recorded because nobody else had a recording device.
Speaker 2Caman was the OG.
I remember like when I was in the adult industry and then there was the camming girls, and it was like separate, you know, and like the adult industry would kind of get mad at the camming girls because they would just be at home making hundreds of thousands of dollars of going to set.
I'm like that was the OG.
Only fans.
The fans would get on there wanting to see the girl in real life and it needs to come back.
But I don't think it's much of a thing anymore, you know.
Speaker 3I think the webcamming is actually making me come back.
Speaker 2I hope it does.
Speaker 3It's coming out about like different agencies and things like that, so I think a lot of the people are going, oh, okay, am I really talking to this girl?
So when the girl the girls are doing more live streams on the only fans now to just kind of ensure like, yeah, it's really me.
Yeah, And then the I from what I understand, the live streaming and the webcamming is picking up a little bit because it was like a huge dip.
Speaker 2Yeah no, I know, and they used to fund everything in the adult industry, believe it or not.
I funded everything.
Speaker 3Yeah, I did a lot of that, and it was like, yeah, it was MFC everywhere.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, it was really It's interesting.
Speaker 2I wonder if they still if they still fun.
They used to have like a blimp inside a v N during the award show.
It was like a small but it was pretty big, a pretty big blimp and it would fly around above everybody and would say my free cams.
I think that was the copy at the time.
Yeah, but yeah, it was pretty cool.
I remember that.
Speaker 3Yeah, there's some I think there's some of those people intertwined with only fans now.
I think they're all like in code.
Speaker 2I believe it.
It's I'm so confused on I think there's like a weird intertwine where they try to act like they don't own it but they really do, or something like that.
Speaker 3Or there's like an umbrella situation happening.
Speaker 2Yep, and that's a billion dollar company.
Don't change the something.
Speaker 3What the fuck is this piece of shit?
Speaker 2Okay, So one of the hot topics is porn have pools out of Idaho and five other states.
Vpm use is spiking, which I had to ask what that is?
You know, you know what a VPM.
Speaker 3I don't sorry what VPN stands for, but I know for them to get around so they can still view the porn.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay, yeah, Like I was like, so it changes your location something like that.
As of July first, twenty twenty four, Pornhub has pulled its hosting in over six states after those states require users to upload a picture of their ID to access the site.
This is to protect children from accessing porn, which personally, to me, that makes sense.
I don't know why they didn't have that before, where you have to make a profile to view free porn and upload an ID.
Pornhub doesn't want to deal with the complexity of the simply pulled the sites from these areas.
As a result, the use in search of VPNs went up forty eight percent in Idaho alone.
So people really love googling porn.
They'll even go to that extreme to like download a bunch of stuff so they could get on Pornhub.
I wonder why they wouldn't just get on another free porn site.
Why do they have to use Pornhub.
Isn't there like tons of other ones?
Speaker 3But it's a good question.
Is it that extreme though, for these men to just still be able to get their rocks off like.
Speaker 2It must be.
It must be because for like a national thing, almost half of the people, yeah, didn't just go to other porn sites.
They downloaded somebody so they can access porn up.
And it's saying, who was in the right.
Is this really attempt to protect children or just a way to restrict sexual liberty.
I think it's a way to protect the children.
I think there needs to be a better way.
I don't think just clicking on a porn site and saying yes, I'm eighteen is good enough.
I really don't.
Speaker 3I agree.
So what like if the kids aren't able to access the porn, it's like they get a few extra years of somewhat, you know, in a sense.
Speaker 2They need that.
I unfortunately have you know people with children, they're like, oh, my kid was twelve thirteen and I saw the search history porn, Like literally, I'm sorry, but that to me, that's so young.
That's so crazy.
They need to be eighteen.
It really couldn't or their mental health if they're watching stuff.
I think it's too too young.
There's a reason for it.
Speaker 3I wish we'd have more open discussions around sex and nudity and that type of like you know, even like purity and imperiod.
I wish there'd be a lot more open conversation amongst families.
Speaker 2Family schools honestly, definitely not schools.
I don't know, Oh you don't know.
Speaker 3I don't want this school talking to my kid about like see.
Speaker 2I think that people are kind of like that divide is like there is not enough sex education, but then the it's up to the parents.
But then you know that I guess I'll have to see when I have a kid what I'm the most comfortable with.
But I definitely feel like they need to explain ovulation to children.
I think that that needs to be a bigger conversation, which that happens in science class just in general, but that needs to be explained just to prevent pregnancies because I didn't know what ovulation was until amn adult.
I just thought that you like, had sex and general, right.
I don't know if that helps.
Speaker 4Though.
Speaker 2You could tell them to count their calendar.
Speaker 3I mean I guess in health class, yeah, you would.
There would be you know, there need to be some discussion, but I would hope that it would be prefaced by like a discussion at home.
Yeah, you know, and I think that's where like a lot of these things as a child, you know, having these curiosities because I think a lot of like the searches, Like I love that it's like a twelve year old boy searching the word porn.
Yeah, like the mind of each child, because you don't know, And so I wish I grew up in an extremely religious household where we weren't able to talk about anything like boobs or bra or like a thong or like a lacy and like none of that, Like I couldn't even.
Speaker 2Long.
Speaker 3Yeah, like nothing was ever talked about sex anything, and you know, like it kind of backfired, you know, here I am naked on the internet.
Not that that is what's gonna happen for everyone, but I would.
Speaker 2Grow up in a religious household.
Yeah, And I think that a lot of people, and a lot of times too religious households, I think can cause people to be very perverted and very like dangerous actually, but you know.
Speaker 3Like because there's open ended there's no room to talk about like I had, I have a curiosity, had this feeling, you know, Timmy at school made this comment, I don't know, like what to like if I can't go as a young child talk to my parents about it, who am I going to get the information from my peers at school?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 3And who they get the information from their older siblings?
Yeah, older sibling, somebody that's not an adult, that isn't really equipped to take on such a serious conversation, you know, and where you could even kind of create an open line of communication so that if you have any other questions in the future that you know, you can go to your mom or your dad.
I just wish there was more of that, and then I do feel like there would be less stigma.
Speaker 2I think it is getting a little bit more like that with the new generations.
I think that sex is a big conversation now.
So I do hope like our generation of kids, like it is an open conversation at home, and I actually I think that it will be like that for a lot of people, especially because online, Like I mean, I get on my Instagram and I'm tagged and stuff that's not even my adult work.
Speaker 3Like, it's just I turned off that because I like men with their motorcycle, you know, I'm like, why am I tagged?
Speaker 2Yeah?
It's like and but that obviously people kids will be like, what if they tag a kid's profile and then that's like, it doesn't.
Speaker 3Your account will get flagged versus Yeah, I know, it's so weird how they do that.
Speaker 2That's what's happening to me.
Where yeah I turned that off.
Okay, so next topic.
I think you'll like this one, but maybe not.
Man sues fifty women for two point six million after they shared negative stories about him on a Facebook group.
The Facebook group is called are We Dating the same Guy?
Somebody just showed me it.
It is a real thing.
Speaker 3I've heard, I've heard of it, and.
Speaker 2The women told Times that Stuart Lucas Murray says that it was defamation, and the judge ruled that one woman, Vanessa, didn't do anything wrong by sharing her opinion in this group.
You know, he's really hurt by it.
He says that he just went to brief dates and now he has a bunch of harassment.
Gang stocking and cyber bullying is happening.
This behavior should not be normalized.
You know, does a guy have a right to do this?
It's really hard to sue someone for defamation.
You have to have a lot of evidence, and so clearly these women were just going off.
I think sometimes women do love to get together and just talk about men negatively, and it can be detrimental to their mental health and their dating history, you know, and you.
Speaker 3Try to be really mindful, especially when I was dating prior.
You know, it's so easy to get with your girlfriends and talk shh, yeah and trash men.
And it's unfortunate because you know, there are some real stories like about some really unfortunate days.
But I also do think it has to do with, you know, what the women are asking for, kind of from the beginning.
I'm curious to know more information about this because it's like, did this man take advantage of them?
Speaker 2Like did he take them all and then not text them back?
Speaker 3Well, even even that, I mean, that's completely his prerogative, and it's up to them to be fucking somebody that they well, So that's a risk that you take as a woman or even as a man, sucking somebody that you don't know so well, they might not call back.
But like didn't the one woman tell him, oh, I have a bad knee, and then he tried to take her on a hike off like a tall cliff.
Like that's kind of a bad date because you know, like you've explained, this is my one thing that I can't do, and then the man took her there.
That's shitty.
And I do think that we as women too, especially like social media definitely works in our favor.
Speaker 2There's such a thing.
Speaker 3It's like mob mentality, you know, as women are chatty, we like to chit chat.
And I I've heard of that site before, and let me just say, I actually think it's so fucking stupid because guests, what if you're dating all the same man, I don't know what to tell me.
Speaker 2Well, first off, it's not like they're gonna stop talking to him.
Yeah, it's like if do you know what mister number is?
Yes, I like to use mister number, and but I guess this is like you know whatever, but I'll use mister number.
And there's been times where things have popped up where I'm like, there's been like ten things and I'm like, oh wait, I'm not going out with this person.
It's been really helpful.
But I think that women just are really hard to please this day and age, and there shouldn't be unless the guy's like doing something really weird like stealing and stuff like that.
Speaker 3Yeah, as a woman, if you have a certain standards for dates, stick with that.
You know, if a guy is like cute with a six pack and he wants to take you, Like if a guy was like the you know, like a male some male model.
I don't know Brad Pitt came up to me and was like, CJ, I like want to take you for coffee or I want to go for a walk in the park and get to know you.
I would just be like, I like, respectfully, I respectful decline that it's not what I want to do.
Brad Pitt, you know what I mean, Like you can take me to a nice dinner like the rest of them, or we don't, like, we don't really need to do this because that's just my standards, you know, Like, and that's going to be my standards for the duration.
And if I allow myself to like lower my standards, then it's kind of going to continue on in the relationship.
How do I know this because I have done that before.
I have done that in the past, and it leads to unfulfilled expectations that lead to resentments.
Then you're not happy in the relationship.
And then you know, if Mama ain't happy ain't nobody happy, And then you know, the poor man is like, I don't know what's going on.
I took her to coffee, and now I want to take her to coffee some more, and yeah, she doesn't like it.
So it's like, well, as a woman, we kind of have to set the expectation because we decide who gets sex.
I'm not going to be just handing it out, I will say.
That's the nice thing about being kind of brought up religious.
I think, like, you know, in that physical way, I was taught to kind of like guard my body, you know again naked on the internet, so it didn't go very far, but you know, in that way, I.
Speaker 2Think there's a huge difference.
People will love to argue that all day.
Yeah, me, but I think there's a huge difference.
Speaker 3Right, we choose who gets the sex.
So if the behavior isn't the kind of behavior that I like and want to see more of, than I'm not.
Like, we're not fucking and we're not going any further.
But that's dating though too, Like you shouldn't also too, We shouldn't hold onto that and then run around town and say all men are trash.
I truly believe a website or the Facebook page like that, Who gives a fuck if you're like young, good looking, even if you're older, you have a little bit of money, like cool.
So if you're mad at that guy or you think he's like dating some of your friends, go date some of his Like why are we on Facebook trying to figure this out?
Speaker 2Like I was thinking, I don't agree with it one because fifty women will say that it's them, right, there's been fifty of them, but they'll all continue to or his text messages and they'll all continue to try to go out on a second date or whatever it is.
So I do like the point that you brought up for a lot of people listening, as like I think there's the standard, like for actual dates, Like I think that we forget that, like we have a standard for like guys and like for ourselves and like boundary.
But I think they're I need to think even for myself, like this is my standard for dates instead of being like, well I like these things, Like I should just say like these are like my five things that are like my standard and then go from there.
Let's disappointment.
Maybe.
Speaker 3Yeah, one of my guy friends was just telling me yesterday there was this girl that was saying, I'm a queen, I'm a princess.
I like to be courted.
You need to take me somewhere cool or take me to sushi.
And then he was like, okay, well where, like where would you like to go?
And she was like, you're the man, it's your you have to say.
Speaker 2I say, just say yeah.
I think they're simpler than we think.
I think they like to be I don't think they like to be told, but I think it's a lot easier just telling them and then after that wait to see if they get it.
But for the first three times, I say, tell them what you.
Speaker 3Which, absolutely and provide insight.
Yeah, then yeah, after a few times, if they can't kind of like grasp it on their own, then yeah, maybe there's a problem.
But there's nothing wrong with giving like a multiple choice.
Speaker 2I say, like, I like these five things, literally not even to give them five that's beautiful.
Speaker 3And then they decide what they'd like to do, and then you go on, you already know you like to do it, so you're both excited to go.
Speaker 2I think a lot of people don't know what they like.
I think that's a big problem to people.
I don't.
I really like, I think women think that they like certain things like but I think deep down they really don't know.
They don't know what dates are actually fun for that.
Speaker 3So it's said to he was like, you know, I think she's just saying stuff.
She's just parroting what she's heard other women say that she thinks she might like, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 2And yeah, men can say there's so many sushi places.
She should just I love the sugar.
Speaker 3Take me somewhere, Take me somewhere cool, like sushi, ma'am.
Yeah what take me somewhere cool like sushi?
Like okay, yeah, sushi's cool, but like somewhere cool is like a hot air balloon or like or like a roller skating Yeah, like sushi isn't like take me somewhere cool like.
Speaker 2Yeah, what unless it's the one that goes around like this, Yeah, like somewhere cool.
Speaker 3And then and take me to a sushi dinner like those are different and my cool is like a cool experience.
Yeah exactly.
She didn't know, Bless her heart.
Speaker 2Okay, so we have hotline questions.
I freaked out my boyfriend by masturbating and giving him a panic attack.
What should I do.
My boyfriend and I are in a long distance relationship and we masturbate together over FaceTime.
Last night, we were facetiming, we were doing our thing.
The way he was talking to me was making me really excited, and before I finished, I had a full blown asthma attack and stopped breathing.
He freaked out and called nine one one.
I'm fine now, but he's scared of any more fun face times?
What should I do?
That was a turn of events at the end.
So she's the one.
Speaker 3She came so hard, she had an asthma.
Speaker 2That's a fucking I mean, that is a king.
Speaker 3I mean saying, oh mg, yeah, I'm in a long distance relationship right now, Like what what these?
First off, I think that's like such a king, and I love that he like saved her from death.
Speaker 2And then it does, Yeah, what should she do?
He doesn't want to have any more fun FaceTime calls, and she she loves those face time calls.
Speaker 3Yeah right, she's ready to risk it all quite literally for the right time.
I think, you know, perhaps, Okay, So here's my thing, going back to like just trying to talk about everything.
He requires some insight and some caretaking around this you know, it's really sweet.
He obviously loves her and doesn't want to lose her.
But like, if I'm in a long distance relationship and I'm not available, Luckily for me, I get to go see my guy a lot, so I'm we're not we're not necessarily stuck to some sort of FaceTime.
But when if you're in a situation like this, it sounds like she's really looking forward to that.
Speaker 2I think that they need to.
Speaker 3Like get on the Google or like a doctor next to her.
Yeah, like get get the inhaler right there.
But also like what are the odds of something like this happening?
What could she do to prevent it?
Speaker 2Like she's got to do whatever you got to do before asthma, She's got to do that right before and right after.
Speaker 3Yeah, maybe did not go so hard, but you got to go hard though.
You have to go hard, like you can't hold back when you're masturbating.
Speaker 2I actually I have a good solution.
I think that she should ease not he's scared, ease back into it and not go so crazy and then and then go back to how things like just be like no, baby, just a little bit, you know.
But it's like on her end.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, but just some more like his feelings are valid, but like you know, oh yeah.
Speaker 2Imagine calling and calling and calling nine one one, like you got to get there.
My girlfriend's passed out.
She's not breathing.
We were just having sex face yeah, self and much.
I'd be scared too, I'd be scared.
Yeah, that's rough.
I'd be scared.
Speaker 3Yeah, kind of, honestly, like I is honestly very intrigued to hear more about the story.
Speaker 2We need to make her her famous if that huck chuya girl or whatever.
Yeah, if she could be famous, this girl could be famous.
Okay.
One more is my aunt found my box of sex toys and now she wants me out of her house.
Oh it's a male.
Twenty six male live with my aunt after she had some health issues that drained her finances.
So I've been helping her out with her bills and getting her back on her feet.
My aunt is extremely religious and is rather against sex.
I'm not, and my girlfriend is on the kinkier side.
We have a box of sex toys in my room and I forgot to close the door before I left for work.
I guess her cat got into my box of toys that dragged out a few of the bigger ones.
I came home from where and she's sitting there with the now chewed up toys, demanding that I leave.
I don't see why it's an issue.
She would lose the house if I left.
She needs him, but.
Speaker 3She's still abuse him around this now, which is unhealthy for him too.
I mean, here's my thing, it's your aunt's house.
She's an adult.
She's ready to sink into poverty and potentially with being on the streets because you have a couple of dildos laying around.
Speaker 2Like, first off, how big of a cat is this to pick up toys?
He said, the bigger ones.
I could see a dog, but I've never known for a cat to chew up sex toys.
Speaker 3But again, I need more inf like I need pictures with these toys.
Yeah right, I really do, because these are honestly so iconic.
But I just think like your aunt's kind of a loser, sorry, Like she would rather be on the street, potentially risk herself being on the street, than would her nephew have some fun, he said, with his girlfriend.
So he's with a partner, he's you know, he's in a safe environment.
He's in her home and he's being helpful.
What a freak of an ant like sorry, freak of a cat like that is the cat is aggressive, but like those the cats aren't.
No cats like lick underwear too, and dogs like the cat clearly loves him and wants him to flourish.
Yeah, so like, honestly, the ant is in the wrong here.
You can't kick the ant out of her own house, and then she's going to continue to abuse you around your desires, which you know, like every as long as everyone is consenting adult, you shouldn't have be abused around that.
Speaker 2I personally, for me, hostile environments are not like I can't stay in them.
I'd rather just like you said, like just leave or whatever.
Speaker 3Leave they don't stay there and try to fight her, and then she's gonna like have a you know, a heart palpitation, and she's gonna blame you, and it's gonna be your family.
She's gonna die and the whole family's gonna blame you.
Speaker 2So yeah, asap, Yeah, I think, yeah, I think she just Oh my god, one time I was moving right and they pack up everything and a huge glass.
Speaker 3I love your glass still, Yeah, my favorite, a huge, favorite glass one like whatever.
Speaker 2You fellas and it must have like gotten behind my headboard or something like that.
So when they took it down and my friend was like, we're looking around and she goes walks up to her, She's like what is that?
And then we stand over top of it and she just starts laughing so hard.
I'm like, why wouldn't they just throw that into a box or like, why wouldn't they just help me out in there?
Like yeah, and they're like, go check around, make sure that everything's Like, you guys set me up.
You knew that that was on the floor like that, you knew I was gonna walk in with you when.
Speaker 3It came out, like you guys forgot my dildo?
Speaker 2What am I paying you for?
It was so embarrassing.
Speaker 3Never again, I love that, like that vision for myself.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh giant glass butt plug.
Speaker 3Yeah of course, not a light up one, though, I feel like I need to get a light up one.
That's what everyone has.
Speaker 2Yeah, like wear it.
Speaker 3Out in Vegas when I like you love Vegas right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's fun.
I still go there and I have like so much fun.
Yeah, sober it's the best.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh yeah, I always what made you go sober.
Speaker 3I was just like I was literally like ruining my life.
I was never very good at drinking.
And then whenever I drank, I always loved to do a bunch of cocaine too.
And so you know, I try to drink beer.
I try to just drink like clear liquor.
Like I try to only drink when I was like eating, you know, eating food, so that I didn't get too drunk.
I'd try to drink only if I'm like celebrating something.
And it just eventually it just got to the point where I just completely could not control it.
I had used every excuse in the book.
People didn't want to be you know, I had a good group of friends, thank goodness, but there are certain people that wouldn't want to be around me.
And you know, I would get mean at times.
I was more so just like such a like a like a lush like I would be talking and it would be one run on sentence.
I'd be in a corner stry maybe just straight up annoying, super annoying, and I did.
I would get drunk every now and get bite people who knows I would wake up and like somebody would be like guys and girls like my friends, like luckily not random people, but like I'd wake up the next one they like, you bit me and I would be like no, I didn't, like shut up and they're like and I would.
They would have a bite mark.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, that's scary.
Speaker 3Sorry this happened.
Drink.
Yeah, then I'm like hurting people, people that I love that I care about.
I would be like, well, what did you do?
And it'd be like nothing, you came up behind me and you just so it's like so, you know, that's one of like a hundred different stories, complete blackout drinker.
I'm in a twelve step program now.
I'm much happier this way.
Normally I have like my little amethyst AA symbol.
Speaker 2I swear to you, that's hard.
There's a lot of people that struggle with addictions.
So I'd love to hear from people who can have fun and be sober.
Speaker 3I still, yeah, I celebrate my birthday in the club at sou Yeah.
Speaker 2You don't need to.
I've been drinking less and less.
Honestly, I could say until four o'clock now and only have like two three drinks and that's over.
A period of hours of hours, like I just don't need to be drunk any wore And you.
Speaker 3Know, it's really cool.
The use of alcohol is like going down get A lot of people are on ozimpic, a lot of people are taking mushrooms.
People are just trying different things and they're not drinking this much.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's just like kind of overrated for right now.
Speaker 3For yeah, for right now.
I agree there's a trend and I'm loving it.
I don't necessarily feel like, oh, I'll call should be outlawed or nobody should drink.
I don't feel like that at all because I see all my friends enjoying alcohol responsibly, much like yourself, and nobody has problems me.
So that being said, yeah, I'm much happier this way, and it is cool to see the shift.
I think for a long time it was like you'd get to the party and you'd be lined to the bar pre game to the bar exactly at the afters.
Yeah, and I do think that it's not so much that drinking centered anymore.
I just love to see that.
I love to it's people.
I mean, if you guys are going to do the mushrooms, do the what is it the Bufa, the the all the what's the other one, the one that never ayahuasca?
You know, do that if you think you can do a responsible if you're trying to have a spiritual experience like do that.
I certainly never had an experience a spiritual experience with alcohol, also that so you know, or cocaine.
Speaker 2So take that for what you will.
Speaker 3Some people do end up, you know, watering the streets talking to God.
But from what I I understand, you know, it hasn't.
Nobody's there.
Nobody's there, and you were just drunk and your neighbors are concerned.
Speaker 2Thank you so much, c J.
You're so funny, it's so cool.
I appreciate you coming on.
Thank you Heartbreakers for listening.
Speaker 3Thank you Heartbreakers,