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Ep. 21: Choosing to be a Chossid with Rabbi Moshe Wolberg

Episode Transcript

Now Fussen has to realize that his connection to the rabbit is an Asmussica connection and that, you know, of course you know, yeah, it's an Asmussica connection.

But Lapel Saville Savdas and you want to do this and you don't want to do that.

And and and you don't actually, you know, actualize this actual connection, which which we know about.

But at least first of all, we have to know it in our brain.

And then we have to see to it, maybe to, to to bring it down into mysa and hopefully to bring it up shiggle out of the heart in our heart as well.

I'm Yasi Kamen, welcome to a Mung Sidin by their hair, an ongoing Fabregan about life as a Hasid, our vibrant connection with the leather and inspired living shaped by the way he teaches us each and every day.

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I guess let's start.

I think that you were by, I don't know all or most of the rabbits hablengans since I think Tashanam with gimbal.

I think that's the right year.

And from what I understand, I think that was part of the, you know, what, what attracted you to the Deb in the first place?

I don't know.

I don't, I don't really know.

So that's my question is, is that is that the case or what's the story there?

I'm, I'm not really sure it's like very uncomfortable to speak about my own stories.

I mean, I don't feel that I have really such a serious story.

So I could just just tell you a little bit about myself and know where I'm coming from.

And I think that'll give you the general gist of things.

I lived, my parents were both survivors, so to speak.

And they didn't actually, they weren't in the camps, but they both, they were both were in Russia during, during the war.

They both from Poland and they came to America.

And we lived in Brownsville on Stone Ave.

That's where we lived.

And at that point in time, my father was going to send me to Akheder and Olitheda had a bus going to Brownsville, which wasn't really far.

Alitaya at that point in time was on Eastern Parkway between Bedford, between Rochester and Buffalo was they had a building, they had two buildings there.

I still remember it.

And that's where, and it wasn't so far from where we lived.

And there would, there would be a bus coming from the Yeshiva to Stone Ave.

picking up a few boys and we went to learn there.

So I started learning in Alitaya.

That was my first learning was Mrs.

Teitelbaum.

She was the pre one eightsk teacher.

And then there was Yossel Reisis, which was the 1st grade teacher.

And then there was Schoenbechevsky was the second grade teacher and I was there for two years, but there was no Lemudicher.

So I mean, my parent, I was there.

My parents were Lubavitch.

No, there's nothing to do with, you know, connecting to Lubavitch.

So I would imagine, even though I don't remember it, I remember being in camp there as a little child.

I'm sure Lakhura, there was a there was a parade in Toshankov.

So Lakhura I was by the parade.

I don't, I don't remember it, but I imagine like I'm sure Oluteira went to the parade and I'm sure I was part of that parade.

So that was probably the first time I saw the rebel was like Bohemer Toshankov.

And during that time we moved to East Flatbush, we moved to East Flatbush and in the East Flatbush there were the Hafts.

So actually the Hafts, I knew some of them from Oliteri as of Shia.

We were in the same class in Oliteri.

And then I live right next to Yankel Heftschule and there was Mukhal Teitelbein.

So there was a certain connection.

You know, I, I knew a little bit about Lubavitch and I knew some Lubavitchers and I would walk from his Flatbush 2 Crown Heights to them.

So bringing them on a regular basis, it was like as a young child talking about like a 7 year old, 8 year old.

I had friends in Crown Heights, not Lubavitches also because I was learning in Tervidas of Crown Heights at that point in time.

And I would go, so I would go to 770 and it used to be the small shul of the 770 in the back, you know, the first shul.

And there would be like tables in the back where the kids would stand and say Lukhayim and whatever, maybe hear something of what that I was saying, say Lukhayim and then go back home.

And that was, that was the Sederhadvaram.

That was the Sederhadvaram.

And I'm just saying.

And, and as I got a little older, so I, maybe I stayed a little longer for Verringen, I heard some more things and, and there was a general attraction of me to what was going on in 770 to the Bahram, to the, to the, to the atmosphere of 770.

That's, I'm just telling you where it was.

Eventually I went to learn in the Shiva of Staten Island, which was the mesifta, which that was when I was 12 years old, that was when I went to a dormitory.

I'm, I'm telling you just my life story, just, so just to avoid your questions and maybe I'll just give you background.

And I, you know, I, I knew about Lubavitch and I, I gravitated to Lubavitch and I was like considered the Lubavitcher there.

I was considered the Lubavature in the yeshiva.

That was like, and then I would go, you know, I remember, I think the first actual Fibrengen that I went to Fibrengen during the week was Yuddis Thomas Tovchenkovtes.

I guess I would only go on Shabbos, Shabbos or Yontov.

But the best Thomas Tovchenko test, I remember going from the yeshiva in Staten Island to the Fibrengen, which would involve going on the ferry and then taking the train to Kingston Ave.

and then going back by ferry at night.

And like waiting for the ferry and waiting for the bus.

It was like, you know, I remember like I, I still remember singing Vani Eftak Boch on the bus stop, waiting for the bus after the ferry, the Hampshire to Fabregga Vitas Kislev.

I'm just giving you an example of what it was.

And that's where I was.

I was like in in the yeshiva there.

I was like the Labavager and I grab a thin little bow which I would come and I was very strongly attracted to it.

And then the rest I suppose is history.

As things progressed, eventually I decided and there was also Tanya Shurum in the yeshiva which Mayoranis used to send people.

There would be Binyamin Cohen from Australia would come give a share on a regular basis.

Schoenberg Groener gave a share.

It was a time Schoen Duchme used to come give a share.

Zalman Zamma Lipskyr, which I think is one of the Galboy M770 would give a sheer.

There would be different people giving sheer in there in in in Staten Island, and these were all sheerum in in It was a sheer that was done in a car because there was officially there was no sheer.

So we would learn it was hard wasn't allowed and that's what that would happen.

I'm just telling you the way it was.

What should I tell you more?

I I still remember like Mesha Feinstein would come to yeshiva and Yonti like Schwartz, he would come to yeshiva.

Maybe other times he would come.

I remember Khasrin of art that I heard from the rebel.

I said it over Besham the rebel that you know, igiye Kapeka.

It's really look at the Terry Igiye Kapeka.

You say hello, Sheikh of a table of that.

When's a Sheikh of a table of when you only have the Igiye of the Kapaim and not the rush.

The only the campaigns I remember like him being like very, very, very, very impressed with the vote this year.

Capita just Thomas.

I said it over in the name of the rebel and that was that.

Maybe I could maybe share another little story which would help anybody.

I don't know.

I remember I remember my father asking the rebel, you know, settle about Shidoc for for one of my sisters and it was a shidduch about someone that had like some history in the family of not not some connected to health.

And my father has the rebel whether he should do the shidduch.

The shidduch didn't happen, but in some importance that that's that was the rebel.

Yes, the rebel and the rebel told him al Pi al Pi hiros Rav mera hero.

That was the answer.

So I was learning in yeshiva in Staten Island.

So my father told me I was like Mr.

I'm a boy of 1415.

So my father tells me I should.

Yes, Ramisha, you know, I'm there.

So yes, Ramisha.

One second.

So can, can I have two questions here I'm not understanding?

Number one, and you'll remember exactly where we are, we're holding with the story of Damasia.

This yeshiva, Staten Island is part of the network of Damasia Financial Yeshiva.

Remember, Shifai didn't have a network of yeshivi.

There was yeshiva in the east side.

He was here.

He was, he was a reshiba in that yeshiva.

And then there was another yeshiva.

There was one more yeshiva that was affiliated with that yeshiva.

Yeah, that was called the Yeshiva Satnam, which his son Bruvan ran and he still runs, I believe.

Got it.

OK.

And your father was asking the Rabba.

But we get a question.

Yeah, yeah.

That means he had Shai Hassan his own to the Rabba.

True.

Really.

I mean, the truth there.

My mother worked in Crown Heights in, in a, in a in, in the, in the, in the bakery on.

There used to be a bakery on Obinley Ave.

near Easton Parkway.

So she worked there and Rabbi, Rabbi Groaner would come there.

And as a result of that, they went one in Tijidis.

Like, like my mother wanted to go on Tijidis about an uncle.

Whatever.

It's listening.

Yeah.

And they went to Ichi this that was through the connection of my mother meeting Rabbi Groener in the in the bakery.

And the rabbit would sometimes come into the bakery Der Khago.

And so, so probably somewhere or another, I imagine how would my father get it settled to the rabbit?

Probably gave it to my mother and my mother maybe gave it to someone.

I don't know exactly how it happened.

My mother would come to Crown Heights.

She wasn't so far from 770.

Am I still on?

Yeah, it's very well.

So the kids are that.

That's what happened.

And the rabbi answered Alpi, you know, So I remember at that time, Amesha was staying in Shiva.

He would stay in the dorm and he would wake up like 4:30 in the morning and go down into dazaal and learn or write, whatever.

And it would be like.

So I also woke up that time and I went over to ask him this question and me with my whatever little bit ignorance.

So I felt it sounded funny to me that this is a question that shackles to a rabbit and sounds more like a question shackles to a rabbit.

So I remember telling him you know the rabbit.

I told him that my father asked the rabbit.

The rabbit said he should ask a Rav so that my father asked me to ask you.

My father told me to ask you.

I doesn't need to me it doesn't make sense that as a Shaka Storov.

It's something more of like a a rabbit type of question.

And he started like saying no, but fetish not it's certainly Shaka Storov.

But first of all, everything Shaka Storov and the shyly is whether betrays him, Navi Hazaka or Betrasik is in the Hazaka, whether or not you have to be haitious for a problem.

And he was saying that one of the problem was a problem that happened during childbirth.

And maybe even though it doesn't normally happen, but if it does happen, it's not really a reason to be.

And I'm just telling you face a a little bit a piece of information which I know is important or not important.

I'll, I mean, I'll tell you, I'll tell you everything that I have to say.

I don't think I have much more to say now.

While I during those years I also had a Yehidis with the rabbi.

I went into Rabbi Yehidis in in when I was 15 and when I was 8 when Tufschen Lamid Alev and in Tufschen Lamid base I went into Yehidis.

And at that point in time, I already like had an interest in learning in all about yeshiva.

And they asked the rabbi whether or not I should go over and learn in the Lahaba yeshiva.

And the Rabbi told me that Halem yulmid mokmashali bekhovitz.

So therefore, it's not something that I can make a decision for you.

It's something you have to make your own decision.

It's totally mokmashali bekhovitz.

That's how that's how you should make a decision of where you should learn.

That was that year, that that year, that year there was like I was, I was supposed to learn somewhere.

I was going to go learn somewhere else in another yeshiva lepeo.

It didn't work out and I went back to my old yeshivas.

I, I, when I went to Yehidis the following year around pace of time, which is my meledes.

So the rabba.

So again I wrote to the rabbi.

I said, listen, I said that I listen.

I said I, I, I, you know, the rabbi told me mokmi shuddhikovas.

But I'm I'm telling you a story which shows you that I'm like a little bit confused and the mail.

I don't really have a Libra office.

It's not really clear to me what my Libra office is.

So I'm asking the rebel.

I'm I'm I'm, I'm saying it may be very grub right now.

I'm sure I wrote it a little later, but I'm asking the rebel that the rebel should should be marketed for me.

So the rebel said the Valdez Adin was stating as he had there aimer Ken Tsoukomen Sedevo Machlazeim that every person you know could come to this misunderstanding and therefore you should be machlit on your own where you want to learn.

And then the rabbit finished it off on Misoloheim pseudostavis.

That was so when I heard the word Misoloheim pseudostavis, some man or another, it clinged in my ear that the rabbit saying no, there is you should have saiko what to do right.

You know, there there was a Russian one time there by Pabringin.

The rebel said Hokum who Shekhiyamta Divrikhakham was also been against the the safer Taylor that they wrote to the safer Taylor for the children.

And there was an argument what it was and there was something the rebel wanted the kitser.

There's a Muslim the Lushna Mishnah Khakhmata Shekhiyamta Divrikhakham.

So when the rebel was saying Machmashel Ibukhovitz, I felt that the the I'm just telling you, the hergish, you know, could be that was her family is Olharamcinus Davis.

But that's what it felt to me was Olharamcinus Davis.

So lapel that summer I Taco went to Morristown.

That was the summer of Lammott Bayes.

I went to Morristown.

I remember.

How old are you at this point?

I was, I just turned 17.

I just turned 17.

I went to Morristown and I remember, you know, right, persuade me not to go to Morristown.

It was like renting different persuasions.

You know, I remember hearing a vote from somebody over there saying that, you know, you, if you go to Lakewood now and you go to Brisk, you'll always be able to go to Lubavitch.

But if you go to Lubavitch, there's not a chance much, much of a chance that you'll end up in Lakewood or in Brisk.

That's that that was the the vote that he told me, which was true actually, you know, and and the lapel's I went to Maristown while I was in Maristown.

There was also not such a clarity in me about staying.

In fact, it was like Mamas just swear it to go and lapel Mamas.

It was Maelech swivel Oliva Shalim, which was like the makabe patish of me to stay.

But I'm just saying it's not like he did something which was like la Catrilla.

Nothing.

You know, it was, it was, it was something, it was like a, it was a very, maybe a, a, a, a not clarity on, on my part.

And that's what happened.

So then I ended up going.

Something that may look sad or just being around.

Him we there was a papragon.

It was like a stark Papragon or Shadesh El tossing on the base actually, and that and that papragon.

It was like the decision was made on my hand made.

It took a lot of mashka and whatever it was without getting involved in the detail Sheba Dvorim maybe just mention Yeah, but just to just to mention melech and and you know, and this that probably the last time I met melech was I once went to Morristown for a Shabbos before Schwartz, you know, Shabbos akdos.

So they would bring people to Fabreing.

So I was probably from England.

I went to Maristown to Vibran and there was someone sitting there which that person was in Maristown as a result of me, which a connection, a family connection.

So I felt that I was the one that that ended up a boy from Brazil.

So he ended up being in Maristown as a result of me.

So I told Mehler I was sitting next to Mehler.

So I told Mehler that this Bocher is here because of me.

She's the Ebaze is a doc my name Nicole.

That's what I'm just saying.

Mehler's response to that Indian.

So I think I told you pretty much everything, pretty much everything.

I mean, there's like a story which was printed and it was said and different versions.

But I can tell you the version that I know about and that was that is it's a it's a true story.

Maybe it brings out something gives you a little bit of a hergish that I I used to put on film.

Hollow made used to put on film Hollow made the truth and is my father himself came from a family where they didn't put on film column eight when he came to America.

Your father was like literature.

My father came from a Polish background.

His his father was a Gerry Hustle.

His father was a year that went to the Sassemes travelled to the Sassemes.

His grandfather, I think went to the Kadushiri.

So he came from Polisha, from Polisha background, but he'll, he, he was a Yasim as a young child.

His father passed away when he was, his mother passed away when he was eight or nine years old.

And he went to, he, he learned in yeshiva's Navardic this Yasif, which in, in Bialystok.

So he like, it's more of a literature yeshiva, Musa yeshiva.

I'll call upon him.

And that's how really he ended up being saved during the war because he wasn't in his home.

He wasn't in his home, he was in yeshiva.

And he ended up going to Vilma and they're escaping to Russia.

But Al Koppon.

Is he in Shanghai?

Huh.

He was in Shanghai.

No, no, no, no, no.

He was in Russia.

No, no, no, he was there.

Was this maybe a spark?

But he he ended up being in Siberia because he went to Russia with a bunch of people, Fianchil Galinsky with a bunch of friends, and then they were arrested.

They were arrested in Russia and they were sent to Siberia.

That's really what saved them.

In any case, what was I saying about my father?

'Cause he, 'cause he put on.

So he started putting on film because when he came to America, he had a job that he that he felt he had to work Halo made.

And so I told him he's working Halo made and maybe he put on film Halo made.

Really.

I remember speaking to Ameesha.

Ameesha didn't feel that if there's any truth to it, but that there's only any validity to it.

It's not not a gay ads but I remember.

Like, but I was putting up Phil Khalimaid and you know, I started like Davining Musa Hari and Phil Nikesha Muskabad.

I'm saying this all changed when I came to Morristown.

Till I'm Morristown.

I did.

I had what I whatever I got for my father's film and and my NUSA was also the NUSA that I always learned to Davin and but to change not to wear Phil Khalimaid was something that I didn't feel comfortable.

It was like to where it's film calamade.

I just didn't feel comfortable.

So I put on film Calamade then and lapel.

When I went to Yehidis, I wrote into the rebel that I I put on film Calamade and I'm asking should I continue or should I stop?

You know, I I'm, I'm doing the old young of Musa Kabad.

Should I change or shouldn't I change?

That was the question that I asked the rebel.

And in those years you would have to bring into the rebel settle from that holla.

And whereas you would bring your own settle, you would give it to the rebel.

I don't remember how you'd give it.

You'd give it both together into the rebel's hand because the settle, your own settle, you know, the rebel would stick out his hand and you would hand it to the rebel's hand.

But the settle would probably, you'd hand both together.

You'd probably hand in your settle, which was an open settle, and you would also hand a closed envelope with the Anholla's writings about you, whatever.

And the rebel reads the the letter.

The rebel would read it, you know, with moving his hands on it.

And then the rebel opened the letter of Don Hollo.

He opened the letter of Don Hollo.

And like, the rebel's looking at this letter and this letter, like look back and forth a few times.

And then the rebel asks me.

He says, do Lance Mariston.

So I said yeah, she says undo lakes film Halo made.

So I said yeah, she says the Marathon Lakeland film Halo made.

So I say no, she said undo lakes.

Yeah.

So I said yeah, but kids, that was the questions went back and forth.

She said Brigade le Pale.

So Soufirn with Staidenaltrem Chauhanora has also Lanier film Halo made.

That's what it's sad.

That's what I remember what I was saying, even though I'm not really sure that it's that that it says that in Schoonara.

But that's my recollection of Yerhidis right now.

And then also is that recollection of Yerhidis.

Yeah, they told you very clearly not to.

Clear not to Dos Wodosiega Lake Film.

Kalamade Zosta Fragnerov.

The fact you put on in the past, you should ask it of.

Maybe what she should do now?

Maybe, yeah, whatever.

I don't know.

But that's what he told me.

It was very clear.

So I remember coming out of Yehidi's feeling a very like, very, very elated, like the rebel, like by the rebel was a double aparshit that I have no business putting on.

Phil Kalamate.

I remember, I remember, I remember walking out of Yehidi's feeling very maybe the word accepted.

I don't know if that's a right word, but like feeling like that that the rebel was telling me that this is where you belong.

You're not do Snish that friend there, whatever, something like that.

I'm telling you only my my feelings, my irrigation at that point in time.

This is all I think printed racist arrogance was somewhere.

I I've said this over, even though there's people have all kinds of different scores, which I think is, is, but it's not like you have this of this particular story.

But Zoenian, the Kitser Nimrats, I don't really have much more to tell you.

I mean.

I have a question.

OK.

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My question is so I the story what happened the I just heard from you and I we we we wanted an interview in the hair and stuff printed in Quahabad.

Over the years, I've seen written things from you to this effect that I don't remember already.

I think I remember the Khabad article came out and I was in the marathon.

So I was reading it in marathon about your learning in the marathon, but I also learned by the malus.

So my question for you is what, what I, what I, what I would like to understand is, you know, Lakewood or Blisk or, or Lubavitch and, and you're not sure which one.

So obviously something's attracting you to Lubavitch.

What, what?

What is that?

I, I can't really pinpoint it.

It's not like you know, you know, say I don't think I was such a Tifa person and I don't think I was such an idler person.

It was a certain, a certain.

It's very hard for me to explain it.

There were certain vibes, there were certain feelings by the Rebus Fabringians.

By feeling, by being part of the Rebus people was something which was very attractive.

What?

Is it about?

What is it about the Rebus Fabringians?

I don't know.

I don't know exactly.

I don't know exactly to be Masbi, you to be Masbi.

There's like a certain I, I, it's hard for me to explain.

And, and, and I mean, maybe in my mind I could explain it, but to verbalize it would be difficult.

There's a certain, let me maybe try to put it a little like able maybe, maybe this is more than it really is.

There is a messeus of a person that has a certain feeling, and there's a certain messeus of a person that's lost in a feeling.

Or there's a Matthias of you have a person that the Matthias is there.

It's just that the seer is somewhere or another involved in the person.

And then there's a Matthias where the person becomes so lost in the seer that that the whole person is only the seer.

I'm not, I'm not explaining it well, and maybe I'm not, you know, understanding it well.

But there's the same Matthias of coming, the Rebus for bringing and there was a musique that somewhere or another you lost yourself, that there was a certain losing yourself.

And it's like that.

This is really what it's all about.

In other words, there's being yourself and then having this feeling, that feeling, but you all, you don't lose yourself.

And then there's a mercius of somewhere or another coming to a situation and losing yourself, losing yourself to the situation.

I'm not going to speak.

You know, it's going to sound like Hilo by Greece Modriguez.

It was very far from holding by big Modriguez, but in a certain Zeran pin that was the union.

And that was also what Malek spoke about and that for bringing Rusche de Shell the omek of the what he was speaking about was I remember, I mean, I could just tell you, but kitser entire Kelly Kaino should start Surah.

He says there could be a Surah of someone.

That's it.

But that's only the Surah of the person.

That's it.

In order to be there, you have to be in there and and, and to lose yourself there.

Mashaikin, if you hold yourself in your seer and you'd only have a an external seer on your existing seer.

So that's not it.

I'm not really sure if this is the format to be discussing what I'm discussing right now, and I'm not really sure that what I'm saying is really so so clear or accurate.

I'm not sure if I understand.

I'm not sure you understand either.

I'm looking, I'm looking at the expression in your face and I'm trying to interpret the expression on your face.

It looks like it reminds me a little bit of by Cher this morning when I was speaking in Cher.

I'm trying to interpret.

I hope one person understood it.

I am.

So do you understand, I mean, is it clear a little bit what I'm saying?

I think what you're saying is that that there's an A could of.

I think the whole your whole approach to it was that you want to be, you know, part of the, but you want.

To lose yourself, you want to lose yourself, whereas you you retain there's a materials of retaining yourself and then, you know, adding some nice colour to it and there's a materius of someone.

Rather you felt by the rebel that the Lucuda Sadvaram is to lose yourself into the mignon, which is connected to the abrister.

Again, I don't want to speak like we're talking and Ajay Madriga.

I can, I think.

So so I think.

We exhausted this.

So let me move on.

But I, I, I think are you saying that the experience Bachla, forget about your journey, but the, the whole idea of being let's, let's talk about the rabbit sabling for now.

You're you're by the rabbit for for five hours and there's sabling and there's a certain I mean feeling that you have is probably 1 of being uplifted.

But it's it's something that you're you're you're taken out of your of your whatever, whatever gastrin is is going on by you and and that ever puts you in a in a different place is that is that.

Is that?

Yeah, I mean.

Obviously, obviously it doesn't mean that during the vibrating, you can't have all kinds of Moschavis and all kinds of, you know, going off on tangents with with with Fascid Ninjan.

You know, it doesn't mean that way.

You're not, you're not in the in the you're, you're not transfixed.

You know, you can have all kinds of Mac Chavez, Mac Chavez Zoris and all kinds of Vignano.

But there there's an A could of the Fabregan, you know, when there was a certain could of of losing yourself and that a could of losing yourself was something that that that was a certain feeling that could only be if you're part of it.

You know, there's a famous word that that by yesterday by Ishma yesterday mash Mashmo shamo BA.

He heard Rashi says Chris Yamsuf, the Muhammad Samoik questions was shot.

So don't abort the shot.

It was Chris Yamsuf.

Chris Yamsuf was Domingo Kaliesha commando for everybody know about Chris Yamsuf, everybody knew about Krys Yamsuv, the Gavaldinian of Krys Yamsuv.

But lepele there was Amolik.

Amolik also knew about Krys Yamsuv.

So how was Amolik able to come after Krys Yamsuv?

The answer is because Amolik heard from their vitals, from the vitals.

He knew about it.

He is it didn't change him.

He himself remained himself.

He just he became aware of something of Krys Yamsuv.

And then there was Uber mash more Shamu Uber Yisiri realized that an order for something to happen for him to really change, he has to be Oba.

So I'll there is a you know, I remember the person trying to convince me that not to go learn about yeshiva.

He says, I'm sure the rebel would want this should be like his people planted in all kinds of different places.

I'm sure he has that interest of having, you know, person, you know, this yeshiva, that yeshiva person connected to him.

So the Mailer could be the rotten of the rebels that you should be here that that we remember him saying, but I'm saying, what's the difference between being there?

You're there.

You know, you had to shy this a little bit.

I was I went to the rabbi.

I heard the Rabbi, but it wasn't the same.

It wasn't Gansen not the same because you're you're you're yourself and you're an observer and you're watching and maybe you're taking in and maybe you're taking more in, but it's not you're not part of it or shaking.

Being part of it is is a whole different story.

And that was a whole different experience.

And that that was worth to me more than maybe excelling in other and young that maybe I would have thought I maybe wanted, that I could excel.

So let's maybe we should go back to the story a little bit.

So you, you stayed, you're, you stayed at Mars down then after that.

Year for a year, Mars down.

No, I went to stayed in Mars down that year.

Tarshala McGill Then I touched $11.00.

I was the 770, I went to 770 and I was a citizen.

For how many years?

Till I'm a Tess.

Oh, so it's a nice, nice amount of years.

So who was the and at 770?

What was what was happening?

Is it BA like?

What was the?

In the 770, really the my first year in 770, I didn't really have anything to it.

Rabiel 'cause you know, actually we were in Kliviteera and Rabiel wasn't, didn't give Shurm in 770.

So really a Bakker could be in 770 and not have anything to do with Rabiel.

Tabsin, Armadal Tabsin, that was him.

Kipper Muhammad, you know, that's that took his was like, if I bring an issue with Kitser, I'll call upon him.

A lot of things happened in Lamadalid, but in Lamad Hay we there was a group of a lot of Bokram went.

Then they ever sent the Schluchem Teresis row and to and to and to to France and to Montreal.

A lot of Schluchem sent those years.

Let me put it this way, in Topshalam Ahmed Dalid from Bakita that I was in Morristown a a good a group of Bokram went to Miami.

That's when the Yeshiva Miami began label Shapiro went to Miami like 11/10/11.

Buckram went from that key to Mars down to Miami.

Then the rest of buckram went to 770 and then in Tough Shalom with Hay, a group of buckrams also including our share, went to Ocean Parkway.

Ocean Parkway.

There was like always a group of buckram going to Ocean Parkway through Mahazak Ocean Parkway.

And the comeback of that was that Rabbiel would be the Mashpia and Rabbiel would come to give a sheer in Ocean Parkway.

And that's when I learned, started learning about Rabbiel.

That's when I got to know Rabbiel.

That was in Lamborghai.

You're one of the Buckland.

They went to Ocean Parkway.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was one of the Buckland.

They went to Ocean Parkway and then we're there, Lamothe, and then Lamothe 12.

We came back 770, and then we were there Lamothe 12.

I'm sorry, what?

We're there in 770.

All those years, those years in 770.

And during those years, what was your like coming from coming from where you came from and then being a 770?

There's different attractions that people have.

Some of it it's to knock and everything that the lab is doing.

Some people it's the Febrenkin, some people it's tell you, I don't know, whatever it is.

What?

What was the thing that like anchor do that that you're there?

I'm not really sure how to answer the question.

In Tabshammadwov, Grada Pasha Mushbotin started the new Vad Hanakas ATMIM, which was really strongly initiated by Hirschelnotik was very strongly involved in it.

And then there was.

Explain a little bit what was happening before, what was happening, what was.

They were always there, there.

There used to be Anakhs.

Abhil used to write that novel.

Abhil didn't write so much the Anakhs in a regular way.

Then there was a kufa.

Different people wrote the Anakhs, but the Anakhs weren't coming out regularly.

There wasn't like a there used to be anarchist, A musiga danachis written down in Yiddish through the what would be called the Vaj Hanachis Atminim.

And those Hanachis stopped coming out regularly.

They would coming out periodically.

I'm not really sure who would be involved in giving out those Hanachis, but from really tough Shinlamid Dalit is when David Feldman came from Mercis roll to America as a bucker and he would give out on his own Mamish on his own without anybody.

He would give out in Los Naquetdesh the Anuchis.

He would give out the Anuchis in Los Naquetdesh with more of a Kitzer, Not so not so who's garbage from what he wrote during Khazar Berabiel.

But there wasn't.

The gather of Anuchis Atmumu didn't happen anymore.

And then at TAFSA Ahmed vov, it was re established.

And then David Feldman would write the Cyprus Sweet Greenblatt would write the memoriam.

Hirschelmatik would be doing a lot of typing and being involved in a lot of things.

They would be icky, icky.

Posner was the menial of like the, the, the money of, of, of, of what the Mason needed.

There was a drama.

Grossbaum was something over there.

I don't remember exactly.

There were different people that worked over there.

And one of those people that worked over there.

I worked also a little over there.

I was involved a little bit in writing the matter of Mcamus for the syphilis a little bit.

And we didn't have that time, you know, today is much easier, you know, with the computers and I was that time, you know, we would have to sit down.

We would go.

I remember like it would be like a night spending a night in in the Le Vistrock library downstairs over there with the different swarm that, you know, different swarm that would help us maybe find things and that's what we do.

So that was a little bit of an involvement for a few years.

I'm involved.

I'm not because in these Hanocus, I'm just telling you, this is I think a thing.

And then, you know, do we learn?

I mean we had to learn some 70s.

I imagine you only got involved in that because you were someone that was following Febrenkin.

All right.

Well, I don't know.

I'm not sure what she meant to learn Febrenkin.

No, you're following it.

You're.

Yeah, it wasn't so much to get to find those.

There was, there was things they wrote and then you had to find them on OK.

They would call it Hazard or Gemara.

They wouldn't say we're, you know, so you'd have to find it.

You have to find it.

And sometimes it wasn't easy to find it.

I remember the rebel one time taking Hamaka, which was given out by Nakhsat minimum and the rebel like going through it and Marvin Kamis and like, you know, like saying, you know, you're saying I'm Madrid, they're saying whatever.

And it was like wasn't very happy about it.

And.

This is on my backroom, you know, it's like.

But you, you weren't.

You weren't.

Yeah.

I wasn't.

I was just helping a little bit.

I wasn't from the case I mentioned that.

You weren't.

You weren't part of the Hazara.

I could call it the Hazara, probably, but it had nothing to do with the Hazara.

In order to do what I did, I didn't have to give a Hazara.

Right.

So you just have to work off the off the anaka.

You have to you have to know some Taylor though.

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So afterwards, I mean, you stayed in Crown Heights all the years you were, you worked.

I was teaching an old Taylor.

I was teaching an old Taylor.

That's what you did the whole time when you were in Crown Heights.

Yes, from the L of Lamotes.

L of Lamotes.

I went into all the theater.

OK, so, and that's, I mean, it's a unique thing because you're you're married and you're in Crown Heights and you're but but you still you didn't leave.

So you're still there every Shabbos like it's, it's, that's, that's a unique thing.

So my question for you is maybe we'll move on to, I mean, your dealings from Mamatas till today with Bachman right now with Taylor and Manchester and not quite a bad.

So my my question is I know you fabling a lot for Bahram and what are the My question is what is the?

What do you what's?

The main thing that you try to you think is important to impart the Bahram.

I don't know about today or Amal are always like what's something that that either is lacking or that needs needs to be strengthened, which which the Bachar by extension means everyone because we were all bachar months and this is things that are kind labbed.

I mean, to myself, say in today's world, I think it's very important for Bachar to know that his shyness, I mean, maybe it's more because of my background.

He he, he has to really appreciate that he really has a panymistic shyness with the rebel.

It's very important like a bucker to understand, you know, a bucker in the hoods didn't have to impress about himself that he had a shychus with the rebel.

The rebel was there for him.

That was there.

He was Leibkir, Leibov, Raskin didn't have to think that the rebels that the rebel knows who he is and the rebel is caring about him, et cetera, et cetera.

And that Shimuka Lazarov and not Rabiel and Antha Kreisler, all these people were there.

And Alvarez Schlemizzaki, which was later, but but as it went in the Llamids.

So then there could be a Mitzi of a bacher that wasn't really sure whether the rebel knows who he is.

There could be a museus of a Bakker that wasn't really sure if there ever knows who he is and certainly the mems.

And then now there's now.

So a Bakker has to understand this, this concept, this understanding, understand he has to he has to really impress upon himself.

It's just like, you know, the Habersters Miachid Malhusi Alami so Baklal were all of the frat Kishay Vadim Lehmer, biswili nivahalam.

So a person has to know that there is a personal relationship between him and the ebister.

It's not like the ebister is looking at him as a like say just a number.

This kill of all of the front kishay Vadim Leimer Bishvili nivahalam Saldarazet Sadiq Damon Lebeirum.

There's a musig that there is a relationship between every Bachar and every Khasid and every Yid with the rebel and the and the and that's a true and something which is true.

It's not something which is mortgage.

It's not something which you feel regularly naturally.

It's something which you have to work on to understand that that's the truth.

And and a person has to realize that the truth doesn't depend on arrogation, because we have to realize that there's a truth which is not totally an arrogation.

And you know, we could try to be marguish this truth.

We could try to develop a certain, you know, a, a feeling of bringing this truth closer to ourselves, but that doesn't mean that the truth is dependent.

It's not contingent on the way we feel.

And that's something which we always have to talk about.

We have to talk about this idea that this that, that, that, that this every bucker and every person is very, very dear and very personal connection to the rebel and and you know, you can make a Kalvikheimer, maybe a Kalvikheimer if the rebel spoke so much in the Heid Davis about the safer, which is connected to the Rebbe, A safer which is connected to the Rebbe that is part of the Rebbe.

So how much lahura more so a Baker or yid, that's the Rebbe Zayid.

How much is part of the Rebbe?

If a safer is part of the Rebbe.

So so a Baker is part of the Rebbe and he has to understand that and then he has to understand that he has caucus and he and he and he has the ability to be able to to to bring that out a lapel Mceach lapel.

And the idea is that a person, you know, the rebel gives us the rebel.

You know, the idea of the the rebel wants to be knows we and the rebel are not two things snapshot that there's a rebel and there's us and the Mailer we we it's we stayed the lotion.

I remember Abhiel saying over from some safer that that you know, there's a question if Yolanda asked Malachim to to to to to beseech upon you, you know, Malachi.

So what about Bengay asking a rebel?

So the answer is when you're going to a rebel, you're not going to someone else.

So the dogmas he says you have a problem with your foot.

So your head is asking for your foot.

Why is your head asking for your foot?

Lahore?

Is the foot the foot like the foot is the problem?

Well, the answer is 'cause the head and the foot are one thing.

If I can't, if there's a problem with the foot, is the problem the balance in the head?

The head feels the problem with the foot.

So a person understands that his relationship to the web and he has to like, it's not something which is what what I'm saying right now is not something I'm saying because I have a hergish.

We have to realize the truth.

We have to realize the truth that this is the truth.

The truth, the way it says in Taylor, the way it the truth way it says in Tanya, the way it says Oxidis.

And then we have to bring that truth into ourselves to think about the truth and internalize the truth and to understand that that's our truth.

Whether we feel the truth, we don't feel the truth.

We have to try to become closer to that truth and I think that's what we have to vibrate about.

Of course, we have to vibrate about doing the right things and knowing what what what's expected of us.

We have to vibrate about that as well.

I mean, everybody in his and young, you know, going, you know, doing the things that are expected of them.

But there's a certain general idea, which is something which Lahura should also be discussed.

Again, it could be it's connected to my general, you know, tilas Dwarino, but e-mail us.

Or maybe I have more of a hyacinth of.

What do you mean it's part of the?

I'm saying that what brought me here in the first place.

So why?

So why is it?

Why is it so important to feel that or to know that?

Why is this important to know?

I think that's really the first thing of a Hasid.

The first thing of a Hasid is that he understands who knows The first thing about Yid is to understand that is Matthias is Emma Schmeisser that Hawaii is allocated that that's the first thing you you saw the that the heirs that his Matthias are different Matthias, but they're not I'm a Matthias.

I'm a regular Beltescher Matthias and I just have different obligations.

I have different, I have different mitzvahs.

Prison has to realize that his homo Tzai Saeed need their cannon, need their vils.

I'm ugliest and finalikus that that's the Saudi is that you say that you say this Saldarazzai A hassid has to realize that his connection to the rabbit is an atsmistic connection.

And then you know, of course, you know yeah, it's not smezdki connection, but lapel Seville Savdas savil Sir Hans.

And you want to do this and you don't want to do that and and and you don't actually, you know, actualize this actual connection, which which we know about.

But at least first of all, we have to know it in our brain and then we have to see to it, maybe to, to, to bring it down into Misa and hopefully to bring it up sugar down into heart in our heart as well.

Well, that's a bit of supposition what I'm saying.

So, So what does a bucket do?

Any person, what does a person do to I mean, there's the idea you have to know about it.

What, what, what's, what's something, what's something that a person could do to.

I mean, I, I know you don't.

You said not hergation but obviously if you feel it then it's more has a shy.

It's not only to your my yacht but also to your levee and your emotions are involved.

What is?

What does someone do to measure and arouse this?

OK, so there's there's these are the yarn that a person has to be my person, the ash, the Sachs you have to know about.

Then a person could think about what the rabbit did for him.

You know, every person has his, you know, particular story, a little story, a little hair, his father as well.

You know, people when they see them, any car from see them, you know what the rabbit did for all kinds of different people.

And I was a person is is it Miss Bynan and those things that I'm this level of ABBA, this level of ABBA, I'm reminding myself Stamos Evista Duvista Heron Mises.

So I just remember my mother in Tafshilamid Dalid in the summer of Lhamid Dalid had an operation and they gave her a mismatch of blood, which means they gave her the wrong blood and that a 'cause that her kidneys should stop working.

This was in Tafshilamid Dalid and like she was a Mama Mazuma Sekhonis Lafoschis 'cause she was in the hospital that they didn't have a dialysis and somewhere in another, I'm not really sure how my father was spoiled that they should get her to be moved from that hospital.

It was through Twersky from Borough Park at at Copon and she was moved to Downstate Hospital where she had a dialysis, but she was on a dialysis and it was like, it was like in a very, very Shmeira Matev.

And they wanted to do a certain test on her, which I wasn't really sure it made sense to do the test.

I was a bucker then.

So I remember running to 770 and going into America's to write down let's settle to the rebel to ask the rebel whether I should make the test, where I should make the test.

And I wanted to put like some money into the pot.

You know, I'm asking a bracha.

So I had like $20 in my pocket.

So I put $20 into that settle and I gave it to Label Groener.

Now Label told me that the Rebel's really about to leave.

Rebel's about to go home.

He was going to go home like the the afternoon, The Deborah would go home the afternoon for an hour, like 4:30 or something.

And I probably started crying and saying that it's like really, really an emergency.

So he took the turtle and he walked over to the door.

I remember to the rebel's door, knocked on the door.

The rebel opened the door and he gave the rabbit the settle and like a minute or so later the rabbit came out and on the way out he gave, he gave the label Growner.

I don't know if it was only that settle or maybe other setlach as well with an answer.

And the answer was I should, I should do it.

Maybe I'll ask Carl Cian probably.

And then the rabbit sent out.

I remember instead of the $20 bill, he sent out a 10 and two fives and he said that they should give me a cabola from maybe Lishka's.

Kashoyin I think was the was the name of the receipt, which sounded very funny.

You know, $20 a buck getting a cabola.

It didn't make sense to me like Lishka's.

So I understood that Mister the Rebel wants, I should have something from him to bring to my mother.

That's that that that's what I understood is I remember taking the the receipt and putting it under her pillow and the pill.

Barkashem, you know, things I'm not remembering, I'm not saying immediately, but Barkashem, the one where the kidneys started reworking.

She lived like another, another 10 years actually after that.

But I hope on him.

I'm just, I'm just giving you a a little story of something where people had, you know, you know, the Rev was on his way out.

And I'm not saying like, you know, it's in Zealand, you know, it's like, it's not like, you know, like everything is always, you know, there's give him, give him a cabala.

Give him a cabala.

You have to, you know, you have to understand that that was giving me something.

It's like he's giving me something.

It's like, you know, these little, little things of the rebel which you, you, you don't notice, you don't you have to just think about it, think about where the rebel would like take up an extra like time.

I mean, while I'm here, I'll tell you another story, which you know, some stories are good.

My father, I don't remember him ever being by the rebels, Fibrengi and Bachlao Kemat and certainly not Al Amit so Yontiff.

But for some reason or another, there was one time that he was there Al Amit so Yontiff.

And maybe it was Pesach and he was taking it to my house.

Not I'm not 100% sure really what, what the circumstances were.

And they never made Abdullah.

And my father, you know, heard Abdullah from Dareva, but he was thinking whether or not he should be yaitza because my sister, he needed to make Abdullah proud of my sister.

And, you know, women normally don't make Abdullah themselves.

And if he's going to hear Abdullah, so he's not going to be able to be Eitzer her.

See, he wasn't really sure whether I was making Abdullah, should he be Eitzer or not.

So in his mind, he decided that I'll make a tonight, that if I'm going to make Abdullah later for my daughter is this so then I won't be Eitzer.

And if I won't make Abdullah later, then I will be Eitzer.

That was The Tonight that he made in his mind when they never started making Abdullah and they were making Abdullah and then, you know, everyone went for queso bracha and he also went for queso bracha.

I don't know what you know, it was like he went for queso bracha.

And normally he'd give queso bracha.

They would just poor queso bracha and people would go by.

But when he got queso bracha, so they never turned to him and asked him why isn't he drinking the wine, which is very unusual.

Very, very, very unusual.

So my father got very movable and he, he just started taking the wine to his mouth.

Celebi said Mafri, A bracha.

My father told me he wouldn't have made a bracha because he was like Slova Volvo.

He wouldn't have made a bracha.

So he he so he made a bracha better.

Priya governor managed the rabbi answered Amin.

So they'll hire him.

And they drank it.

So obviously he didn't make him dough.

But somehow or another, it was like the rabbit took an interest.

Like no one would know this, but the rabbit took an interest for my father to be ASAP dolla from him.

That was that's the only beer somebody or another.

It was there ever it was important to there ever.

You know, this is like 200 and the seconds that's going on for there ever to be interested in him being ASAP dolla.

That's lahura.

I mean I didn't see any other beer.

I mean, I'm sorry, Chris or she mainly they're Dicellian, but just a a tidbit of information which this is a but see that to you.

Were there, were there other instances that you saw the Rebbe's interest with you personally?

I know there was later Tashanam Bayes.

I mean, is it, was there?

Was there other things?

There were times that I would give very, very warm brachas to me in different different instances.

That's something I can really talk about right now.

You.

Don't want to share?

It's not.

I won't want to share.

I'd like to share, but it's not.

It's not so galactic.

OK, so, so this is something that I guess it's not value though that that people should strive to to achieve that.

Let me ask you a question.

I want, yeah.

Let me just say one more thing.

I think a person has to also be Miss Bynan and how much the rabbit gave away from himself for us on a regular, regular basis.

On a regular basis.

I mean, you know, the rabbit was involved totally.

In other words, I'm going to say something that maybe sounds very, very stupid and it's, and I think I said it to people where they look at me like a little bit funny.

You know, the reper's room was a very small room.

Everyone knows the way it was the, all the years.

The reper's room.

Now the reper's room was empty, but the reper's room was piled up with sparum.

It was like full of Sparum.

It was like you'd walk into your headers.

There would be swarum on the floor till the face was covered over with papers and the table was clear because they cleared it for Yehidis.

But normally the table wasn't clear either.

The rabbit normally by the table never sat by the place where he sat by Yehidis.

He had a like a little corner of his table where he sat on a regular chair and that's where he would write.

That's where he would write.

Maybe when when the maskere would come in and he would have to dictate the place.

Could be you sat in Israel.

I don't know how it would.

I don't know how, but I imagine so Rebel was there.

So like you think to yourself like a regular poorer, like thinking poorer.

Rebel would pour him, would stop him in the morning, 10 to 1212 o'clock pretty much would be finished Ave.

he would go up to his room, he'd give shalkhmanes.

Then he would come in Misha people with his cats, Matano, slaviemim and all kinds of, you know, things happening.

You pour him and then whatever the Rebus Durham was, and then it would be Minka.

Minka would be 315.

And if the Minka certain time, if the Minka they ever would go home for pseudosporum, which didn't take very long, an hour, whatever, like a regular afternoon.

And then the rebel would come back to his room.

In the room.

He didn't didn't come down back to a couch.

He didn't go back to a recliner.

He didn't go back to a rocking chair.

He went back to the regular room, which was full, full of sperm, which he had a little little corner in his of the desk that he could ride on or put a safer over there with a regular chair.

And that's where he would spend the next few hours until the vibranion.

Until the vibranion, you know?

Yeah, everyone knows you.

You're 1 of vibrings.

You have to have a ring today.

So you have to want to make it lie down a little bit.

You want to rest a little bit.

There was no resting.

There was no gescheffen.

The rebel was constantly involved in trying, in, in doing his, his Aveda, which whatever the rebel of excreation that was Aveda is learning and davening and writing and answering and doing.

Just to think about it, just to think about it.

And here we are here and, and the rebel wants to, to, to, to, to encourage us and to connect to us.

And we should connect to him and he should connect to us and we should bring Mashaf down.

That's what thereby wants.

That's that's what thereby's all about.

That's aybiska is all about.

That's what Aybiska is all about.

So I think if we think about it in a more personal real position, maybe I'm talking maybe talking to Akshomadik it, it could bring down a stickle eppis eppis, a stickle sakis l'halevgam.

I'm looking at your expression.

When you have these expressions, I'm not really sure how to interpret them.

I'm enjoying every word.

Very good.

When when you're when you were a bacher in 770.

I mean, you said the story with your mother and this type of ABBA, ABBA, what you're describing, is that something that you felt then or it's something that developed over the years?

I think I felt it then, you know, I think I felt that.

Maybe I felt that over the years as well, but I think I felt that that.

So is it is it more challenging today after Gable Thomas the field than it was when when you when you were Bach in 770?

I mean, I would say in today's world, there are Bachram, there are Musser Vanessen.

To the rebel, not any less than I'm Oleka Bakrum.

That's what I feel.

You know, Abakrum need guidance.

We always needed guidance.

We always needed guidance.

But there's a certain smashrus, which is a Tifa tifa Smashrus.

It just has to be guided in a way that it should be the way, the right way.

You know, people have a Stark Smashrus and and goes out into all kinds of mignoni teu and things of unique and Sakhitseini and you need to have guidance.

You have to have also people that are body Daya and loyal to the rebel and normal normal in the sense of having a day at Yeshura and and and and mnemonim gitai to the rebel and doing the right things.

That's that's what we need.

But the the Bochermark Kaylee for it.

Just the problem is that there's all kinds of for Shidna rukhes which are, which are causing people, you know, from people that are maybe whatever either not so gitrae or not so normal.

If you're allowed to say such a thing, you have to have normala Gitraea people that are dedicated and loyal to the rebel in a real real way and being exceeded not not balabatish.

I think you're talking about a bucker that's interested and he's saying that he should go on the on the on the proper better.

I guess what about what what about a bucker that he's not so intent like?

Like is that more prevalent or or more of a challenge?

What do you say?

To such a buffet, I'm not sure what you could say to him.

I think what we have to do is do, I mean, I'll, I'll share with you just a story that I heard not from a Lubavitchur source.

And I told someone the story and then the person told me a Lubavitchur story connected to the source.

I'll tell you both stories.

The first story was a story that I just heard lately from on a WhatsApp from a from a Daffy Mishir.

The person said a story as a that there was a person that was there was a chevre brachosaur by mitzvah.

I'm not sure.

And this person was actually so wealthy person, the person who was making the party, and he had an expensive, very expensive 2 liter bottle of wine.

He, he said the name of the wine.

I don't, I don't, I didn't, I don't remember the name of the wine, but it sounds like we're talking about a bottle of wine.

In my mind, the way he described it was a bottle of wine that wasn't less than $1000, such a bottle of wine.

And then someone working the kitchen went ahead and opened the cork, opened the bottle and the Mushgiyev saw it.

The Mushgiyev just saw this person an hour ago or so being Mukhal Shabbos with another group of other people was smoking.

This person probably was officially a from boy, but he was being Mukhal Shabbos unfortunately and he saw it.

The Mushkieff saw it.

Mushkieff was an Ehrlichian and in his mind Mukhal Shabbos the his yin, his Yin nessa.

So he opened the bottle of wine and the wine is obviously number bushel with almost such expensive wine.

So he took this big bottle of wine and he poured it down the sink like a good Jew, but then he was also a good Jew.

He goes over to the balabus of the of the of the event and he tells him what happened.

He says, you know, this is this person.

I don't know if he told him the name of the person that actually opened the wine, but he said someone opened the wine.

He saw this person named Hao Shabbos.

So he felt it was Yayin Nasser, and he poured this wine down the sink.

So the guy tells him, you did very good, you did the right thing, I appreciate it.

And you could tell the other person, whoever he is, that I have no tightness to him 'cause he also did the right thing.

He opened a bottle of wine.

He didn't realize that he's making the wine.

Yaya nessa.

Nobody meant to do anything wrong.

And you know, we'll just pass by it.

And that's the end of that story.

This guy was very impressed and much of this person's reaction.

So he goes over to the worker and he tells the worker, I want to tell you that I told the boss, I tell you I saw you open the bottle of wine.

I saw you smoking a cigarette an hour before.

As a result of that, I poured the bottle of wine down the sink.

I told the boss about it.

The boss said I did very well.

He told me to tell you that, that he knows who you are, that you also did fine, no worry about it.

The reason I'm telling it to you is you should know that there are nice people in the world and you should one thing also be nice to somebody.

That was the end of the story over there.

Two years later, this mashgiac meets this person and this person tells the mashgiac.

I want to tell you that that story, you know, you saw me being Mahalo Shabbos, unfortunately, but since then I was never Mahalo Shabbos because of that story.

This is a story that I just heard two days ago.

So I told it over to somebody.

I don't remember who I sent it over to.

I don't remember who I sent it over to.

So the person tells me that there's such a story in Mechemi Wilhelm, Mechemi Wilhelm in Thailand, he was there was Rosh Hashanah and he had a big oil of Rosh Hashanah.

They have a few 100 people and Rosh Hashanah in the morning, someone comes over to him and he asks him to blow Shaffer for him.

She says, why blow Shaffer?

We're going to blow Shaffer and we're going to Dahmer soon.

You'll hear Shaffer.

Then she says no, no, I have a flight that I have to catch.

But before I go on the flight, I want to hear Shaffer because I'm saying prop or someone or whatever.

I want to hear Shaffer.

Kids have had a simple conversation with him.

What's the rush to have this flight?

You already have the flight.

She says, listen, you stay here for a Shashonna and I'll pay you for your flight.

After a Shashonna, I'll I'll pay for it.

The guy listened.

He said OK, so he stayed for a shashonna and mechemi, paid for his flight.

And four weeks later he calls up Mechemi.

He says, I want to tell you that I wasn't ashamed of Shabbos and I was able to fly or a shashonna.

It was no problem.

But since then, for the last four shabbasum, I didn't.

I wasn't mechao Shabbos.

These are two little stories, which is a little bit, a little inspiration to us in how we try to influence people.

In other words, to show that we care and we're interested.

I'm, I'm not, I'm not saying that we don't have to explain things to them, but I figure, let me share this with you.

I hope I'm not taking up too much of your time.

You're saying this in Hampshire?

To what?

I asked about a bacher that hates the Yeah.

Yeah, I think, I think if a bucker feels that you really care for him, you really care for him and that he's, you have an interest in him and you're willing to do something for him.

So, so there's a reciprocal relationship.

There has to be a, a, a sincere interest, a sincere interest.

And that's really, you know, the success of the Schluchem are also when you, when you, when you, when you really show that person you're interested in them, you're really interested in them.

You're really trying to help them.

You're not, you're not, you're not trying, you know, like someone asks someone, are you going to get any brownie points if I put on film or something?

Well, I'm really interested in you putting on film and, and let's say I'm not really interested in putting on film.

So you have to try to develop an interest.

You have to develop it.

And so you're really interested that this bucker should understand how to learn.

You're really interested that this bucker should develop a certain relationship with the rebel.

You're interested that this bucker should, should, should taka have up some more of a connection to yoniak scissors.

So you have to work on yourself that you have to, you have to work on yourself that you should have that interest.

It's not so much working on him, it's more working than himself.

Takes a lot of obviously, so the Andolas need to have a lot of obviously.

So right, we do.

That's what has to happen.

So you have a lot of artists, so you have to have a lot of sacral.

You have to have dedication.

You have to realize what you're doing is important.

That's the first thing you have to realize that you're doing is very, very important.

Very, very important.

You know, there's certain people I remember.

I mean, so maybe it's not nice to like say so I remember once being by the oil had a person come and go over to me and whatever he's he's he comes out.

I know who he is.

He never learned by me.

And he tells me he goes, I want to tell you, he says I learned in all the tailor and I was in sheer Dalit and I was like, not really a bucker of learning a sheer Dalit.

He was a dovora puschut that I'm not going on Schlichlis after Cher down it.

I'm going to go my father has a business.

His father has a business.

I'm not going to say his name, but his father is a is a very, very Finder eat and he has he's a he's a he's a famigliche and he has a good business and there's a number of portion that he is going to join his father's business.

And then we had a Fabregan.

We had a Fabregan and whatever something was said by the Fabregan during that Fabregan that touched him place was it was we Yeah, just like what do you really want your children to look like?

You know, I think that was an acquittance environment.

What what do you really want your children knows?

If you want to know what you really want, you want to know what do you want your children to look like?

Do you want your children to look like you or if you want your children to look like someone else and if you want your children to look to someone else.

So maybe you have to think about being that someone else and and and maybe maybe that was the acquittal of the vibrating and somebody another there was something that was vibrating someone who somebody who have a semashka and it really very much hit home.

And he came that night and he made a he made a decision that he wants to go on schlickers, but it was no shyness to go on schlickers.

I mean, it was it was a it was a complete failure and shared ballot.

And then he went to the denial that time and and and he spoke to him and the guy like laughed for me.

What are you telling me?

There's no talking about him.

No, this and that, because later on I found out he didn't tell me that he wrote to the rebel and he was like, Oh, you know what happening?

The kids say lapel Mama.

She went on schlicks.

He went on schlicks and lapel.

He tells me he was Mikarov hundreds of people.

That's what he tells me.

This guy's he's not a schlickus right now.

He's a he's AI think he's working and he was like.

No, he wasn't.

He went on a Bacher Schleichels.

But then now as a as a younger man, I'm not 100% sure if he's not Schleichelson now as a younger man, I'm not sure.

I don't I'm not sure not sure.

But he told me he was Makarov many people, maybe hundreds of Guzma.

He was Makarov many people since then and he's saying it's all because of that Fabregam that they we were sitting together and and he was touched.

What happened?

Those little teeth, Mazaki.

It was like a certain because you have to you have to you have to try to to impose upon someone.

Give them a little bit of your heart.

The kudos advert, I think.

I mean, I'm not sure if I'm in the position to to stop this conversation, but Mir Duk Tsar that I spoke more than I really wanted to say.

I probably said more things that I wanted to say but didn't say anything, which anyone's going to have timeless to me that I said, but.

I I.

Think it's more.

Popular when?

I think it's more popular when you say things that people don't want to hear.

I think that's that makes them more popular.

OK.

So we'll have to do, we'll have to do a Part 2.

And you're ready to do that I.

Hear you.

I hear you.

OK.

Seder.

Yeah.

Shakir.

Robert.

Wahlberg and you should be matsliac in you're schlickes and we should all be met there and our schlickes and that's it should be better to them.

Thank you very much.

Ahmed, you're very welcome.

All the best.

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