At the time I made a list of all the beautiful things that happened because of the the theft, the wire theft and you know, whether it was going to the aisle and dominating, like really, really dominating.

Whether it was checking all the mezuzahs in the house, whether it was adding shooting, whether whatever, it was certain things that it was a beautiful list of things that OK, so whether or not the money comes back, we already have beautiful things that that happen because of it.

If the money comes back, gravy, that'll be pretty cool.

But the pilot came back.

I'm Yasi Kamen, welcome to a mung Sidin by their hair, an ongoing fabregin about life as a Hasid, our vibrant connection with the leather and inspired living shaped by the way he teaches us each and every day.

Hi, Mandy, How are you Baru?

Hashem.

OK, it's you've been very busy lately.

I think you know you middle of buying a building for Khabaras Bharat.

Hashem.

Very true, very true.

You also told me something interesting that you're you have a new say that Halimud personally you want to remind me what that is exactly?

We're we're going jumping straight in.

That's there's no other way.

I got you.

I have a question.

I have a question about it, that's why I'm asking.

Go ahead.

First I should talk and then you ask your question.

Or I can tell everyone what what I mean.

I think what you told me was that you made a clot a few months ago to learn for a few hours every day as is that is that is that, is that accurate?

Is that true?

So I'm like, I'm like, I need to like do a preamble before this whole conversation as we start as this this podcast, like, you know, you're jumping right in.

Like the whole thing is, is uncomfortable.

If I can use that term.

I was thinking about it as we're getting ready for this morning, as I'm getting ready for this morning.

And I think the whole concept of a podcast is like hypercoloxidus but but but like a big but that ever turned the hoax to this on its head.

And it's like the whole Dershvi Why?

Why is it hapeh so this start with that.

Up until Dershushi meaning that if you would come to like someone like back in the day and say, hey, I want you to get on a, get on a, on a, on a platform, whatever it is and talk about anything like you can't imagine anybody doing this.

This is the hapeh of like a whole concept of I don't know, it just.

Are you, are you saying because of the concept of Bittel like Vadvine?

Who am I?

The whole the whole influencer Instagramization of the world is not in In Sync with the is of things we stand for.

I think the rabbit change that around the, you know, Sybil is often Nervellian and and and not just turned it around, but like ran with it and celebrated it.

So I don't know if it's supposed to come natural.

I don't know if it requires A scafia to go down this path and go ahead and do it.

Just recognizing the discomfort in in the platform and how it's and and and the conversation caviar.

We're having a it's just the two of us sitting here in our respective hole in the walls and bull shoving one with the other.

And then we're going to let it, you know, at least you know, my wife and your wife listen and maybe our my mother and your mother-in-law will listen and, and, and we'll have the, the maybe a couple.

What I what I hear, the first podcast between you and Joe Rogan, there were like 5 million people that listened between the two of you together.

100%, But I think in general, the idea of the idea of when someone asks you to do something, many people, their instinct is to say, Nah, who am I?

You know, we want you to have brain.

I don't know, let's say who am I?

I don't have anything to say.

I think if you are a hosted of de Rashvi, if someone asks you to do something, what we learn from the net is of course I'm going to do it.

Right, right.

Hence hence I'm here.

And no, I think.

Experiencing the brain noise that I went to in the last few days as I'm prepping for this.

I'm like, this is the craziest idea ever to have this conversation and listen if it if it can help one other person and all I have to give up is a few hours of my time, then that's productive afternoon.

OK.

So thank you for the disclaimer and everyone should know that you that this is you're only doing this for for the Cavona and for the cause.

So 100.

Percent.

That's that's why we asked this.

Someone that wants to do it, we don't want them on.

I got you.

I got you.

So back to my original question.

Disclaimer asking me anything you want and please I'm happy to share.

So what's with the say there, Halimud?

What's going on?

So so how far back should I go?

My say there Halimud is like this.

You want me to get so vulnerable so quickly My say there Halimud So currently at the bar Hashem I I get up in the morning, put my

kids on the bus and from 7:30 till 10:15 my Davin and learn

and then from 11:15 to 10:15 to 11:15.

I go to Starbucks sit in there live in their in their lounge area make phone calls.

I I try to come in the office not earlier than 11/15.

And that's a significant amount of more learning that you have done that, that you're doing that than than in the past.

I think it's a few hours.

I was sitting by the aisle, which by the Kinos, a bunch of guys and we were amazed by the, you know, the, the literature gang of you know, I sit and I have a Seder, the first Seder, the second Seder and the businessman, they sit and they learn and they, and they learn Taylor for a couple hours and then they walk in and these real estate people and these business people, they, they pride themselves in their lack of being in the office.

Now as a Shuliak, as a Askin, as a person that our, our purpose is to interact with other people who might seem counterintuitive, intuitive, maybe even like against my, but I was intrigued by the concept and around the table.

We like committed to to learn a little bit more and to shut off the phone to not be engaged in a Vedas Haklaal for the 1st chapter of the day and then engage a little later and see where that takes you in the in your effect, in your impact, in your fundraising, etcetera.

So.

So I brought up the building on purpose because at the same time that you made this haklata to add in your limit a Theta, what's called MIFSA Theta.

For now, that's the same.

Time when?

That's the, that's the same time that you're buying a building and Seikhal Hayasha or whatever Balabatasha Seikhal would would tell you, what do you mean?

I have to raise X amount of money for this new project.

I have to double down.

I have to work harder and you're doing something which I'll be Seikhal may be counter intuitive by saying, oh, dafka, now I'm going to learn extra hours or I, I think you made that.

I thought that to learn before you got into this whole thing with the building.

So maybe, maybe Adaraba, it's connected very much.

Yeah, Yeah, putting it in that context, it's very interesting to see how they worked out together.

I don't know, was it 6 months now?

It was actually originally till

10:00 and then for my birthday I had 15 minutes to go till 10:15.

But but a, a incremental growth in that area has not had less of an effect on that.

It's been it's, it's opened up new blessings and our mates into my life etcetera.

So I mean, I've been thinking a lot about this whole concept.

It seems to me that one of the you say this, I was listening to Sifa and Sheikh Habad.

The the rabbit says there was this the spirit how you say this video of the of you said.

So the rabbit uses that was translated translating.

You say there's foundation that says it in English and the rabbit says there's you say how you say this and the rabbit uses the word foundational princip, I guess like a foundational principle.

What is that principle?

And that's it's in a bitakin that was talking about Panosa over there.

I I think there's a there's a cave that goes through the rabba's, whatever you call it, teachings of the from the rabbit about specifically about the talking that this takes a very, very strong and central role by the rabbit and all of the things.

I was just speaking to someone about college, right that the rabbit did not advocate advocated not to go to college.

And many one of the things that the Deb said is because of the influence in on College in college.

And that's 100% part of it and one of the factors.

But that's also to me at least not the main point.

This and it's especially relevant today when people say what do you mean that we have online colleges and this and that the main factor of the Debus approach by college, for example, there's many other examples.

I'm just using this as an example is the idea that that ever wanted to break the mold of the American way of life that we're worried from when the kids a little kid, but how is it going to make a paranasa?

And it's that that mold that that ever was trying to break not not not for the sake of breaking it, but for the sake of building up the real you said, which is a munna Mitaka and Abrista.

You have to do what's right.

And if it's not right to go to college, you don't need it.

So in your case, if it's if I saw Rabbi Connor Schmotkin used to have hanging in his office and you hid this and the rabbit says now you hid this.

I don't know who it's to.

The rabbit says an askin.

What does it mean?

There's an askin Siburi that doesn't have a crease.

It's a material.

So if you're shliac every if you're ever you'd, you have to have a crease of the rabbit.

What does it mean that you're not learning?

I was once by if I bring and someone's was money.

Do you learn every day an hour of say this, I'll leave it then I have shit like like if you don't do that.

So not only is it not a deterrence or you know, in the way of your fundraising, your success and your Schlichter and your fundraising.

Part of it is dependent on this right?

Is that?

So, you know, and everyone's in a different stage in their life, you know, kind of hard if you have a bunch of kids under the age of five and you can't sleep at night until you get out of bed in the morning and you can barely put your pants on, then it's, it's, it's hard to set a say there of learning.

I know for myself, it took many years to get to a place of actually wanting to learn and, and make a say there of learning.

Not too long ago, I was not, you know, I was in that place.

Life was not just too hectic, but, but my brain was too hectic.

And if only I can get to the

office before 9:00 and if only I can work extra hours.

And if I, you know, that it, it wasn't just a lack of, it was just a total dysfunction of the way things were working of my, you know, just the chaos of life.

And it takes time to actually get to a place.

But you make a good point that the, the if once the foundation is on Batak and once the foundation is on the Avios on providing and I have to work accordingly to, to strengthen that part of my self of my relationship with a Rister, then other things will fall in on top of that.

You know, there's, there's, there's look, this environment, the the the pressure of Schlukas, which can be overwhelming.

On one hand, the business side of it doesn't doesn't easily go in the way of Batachan.

You know, the, the pressure of covering the bank and the, the, the running of an organization, the running of, of, of your house, the running of your finances, all that is just it.

It very easily.

It doesn't have to naturally go the course of Bataugen.

It just the harder I work, the longer hours, the more pressure I put on myself, the more I'll produce until it doesn't work anymore, until it, it's not it until you realize that that solution doesn't actually have fruits.

It's it doesn't play itself easily to, to have this more productive life.

When you start building that foundation and you say it how you say this life is just simpler.

Life is a lot easier when I was going to say when the Ibush isn't in charge, but he's in charge anyways.

Life's a lot easier when I can get on that bandwagon of recognizing, listen, I don't know where the line between Hishtadlos and Batakan laws lot, you know, where, where's too much Hishtadlos, Where's too little Hishtadlos.

That's I guess a lifelong balance of how to walk that tightrope.

But sometimes the air on the side of too much Ishtadlos.

Sometimes I'm too much Batakan and, and, and you figure it out over the course of your life.

But this Lehmann Hataya thing has not negate, has not brought down any revenue or any productivity.

Right.

It's, it's such an important thing because I mean, I, I mentioned that the leather was talking about, you know, breaking the American mold, that, that, that mold exists very much in today's society.

And, and talking about the, the firm world and the lavage world.

I mean, I speak to young people that are telling me that they're concerned about how can you not get an income or figure out an income even when they're not even married yet because you need a few $100,000 to live as a firm person.

And if these these basic, it's true, our lives don't really make sense.

The amount of responsibility that we have, the amount of cost that we have, the tuition, the amount of children that we have, that it actually doesn't compute.

It doesn't actually make sense.

And if you want to make sense out of it, of it all, that's an exercise that you may not be successful at because it doesn't make sense there's.

No way to add it up.

Right.

So I'm just thinking that it's really, really important that from a very young age, we cultivate this type of feeling amongst Dafka young people.

Because you know, if you think life's complicated now and you're worried about what's going to happen in a few years, imagine when you're in it and you actually do have to deal with all of this.

And if you, if you haven't built those Batachan muscles based on what it says in theatre and what it says in Shara Batachan and what it says in, then you have no tools.

You you need that tool.

And by the way, it's not only financial, it's in everything.

And it should look him.

Your mother, My mother-in-law, has a personal story that the rabbit told her to learn.

Shara Batachan.

I'm not sure if I have permission to say the whole story.

Do you know?

As a representative of the family, please share.

I'm obviously going to say it wrong because you know.

I'll correct you.

But I believe the story is that she was in Mesrifka or seminary or or maybe at that point she was, she was older, she was very past that.

I mean, she had been in Mesrifka and at a certain point she was very down about, you know, the Shadduchem and you know, many of her friends got married already and she wrote a letter to the Rebbe.

And she basically like a real full letter laying everything out, everything that's on her heart, her whole story, and specifically about the, the concept of Shadduchem.

And she was holding this letter.

She she, she wrote the letter and she was holding it and she was walking on the way to Masquitas to to giving her a letter happened to be that punked while she was held in the letter, the rabbit was in the car and rabbit Miami Klein was driving the rabbit.

I think it was in the corner of where where the where the museum is.

Bridal.

With the day exactly and the rabbit, the car stopped and the rabbit was you know, very often the rabbit would be with a safer or something, but the rabbit was looking at her.

So at that time your mother wasn't embarrassed by by the clients by the Binyamin and Leia Klein and Erin Mishpacha.

So the client asked her afterwards what was going on what that was looking at you.

Something's something's up what was what was that?

So she said actually I was holding a letter in my hand.

My whole life was on this letter and I was I was about to deliver it to my skitters.

That's what was happening anyhow, that ever responded to her letter and that ever told her to learn Shanabi Tachen.

And I believe that ever said to do it, learn it two or three times and that ever said and you also you can find it in English.

Yeah, yeah.

And in general, I've myself, I've, I've been learning it, you know, based on the devil said oh, to some, to to many to, to learn.

I've been learning it.

I'm, I'm always learning it.

You know, I learned that once and you know, I do it sometimes.

I'm not always learning it, but I'm always getting back to it and continuing.

So I actually recently I had that click because I heard of art in a share that I was listening to on it that all of a sudden I've heard this before because I read it before.

But then now this time, like I clicked and like I did a lot.

So that's the idea.

You do it two or three times.

The only I think this the only part of the story I heard differently would I have to ask my mom for?

Yeah, I I made it, made it.

Disclaimer, I'm sure I'm saying it wrong but.

She had wrote, she had written him, but did not hear back from the other.

And then she was, she was standing at the corner and and you know.

She wasn't.

She wasn't holding the letter.

She had written a few days earlier and did not hear back.

OK, we're going to have to do a redo to get the story right.

Yeah.

So it's just the.

It's it's, it's a it it, it takes a lifetime.

You know, it's it's not a older nothing proposition, you know, to really start moving that to live a life of Batak and takes time takes effort, takes work, takes takes takes it.

It takes being uncomfortable and, and, and to jump out on that ledge to be able to do something out of Batak and.

Why do you think this is such a aside that rather this concept that we're talking?

By the way, it's a very fascinating thing, just shy of the talking.

It's not actually the safer.

Right.

It's the only strong that I've been really pushed, not being Tesaksidas.

Yeah.

So why do you think this is such a aside?

It's a world view, it's a whole, it's a whole different.

It's a different way of of living your life.

It's a whole different attitude and it permeates every single thing.

There's no part of your life that is not affected by really living Batuchen.

From your schedule of your day to your to your finances, to having children to have, to the way you run your company to the way you interact with the people.

Every single part of your day is so you're not looking for something.

A schliach that lives in Batuchen.

When you see a guy who's tackling Batuchen, he's not.

He's a lot more comfortable with himself and he's a lot more comfortable than Balabatan and he's not a lot more comfortable than his way he interacts with other people.

Because I don't, I don't need, I don't, I'm not in charge of the outcome.

I'm not in charge of what happens from this interaction.

They were just talking running the world and, and my, my remember a while ago, I think it was before COVID, I started calling on I, I needed money.

It sounds familiar like I would I needed it was financially tight, but I started calling on local business people to meet with them with no agenda and just calling on them as the local schliach, the local rabbi, as the local in my mind, you know, the way I was in my in my own mind, trying to present it as local representative by you Kayak Abdul Baba should have you know, and and and and really engaging and having a relationship with them with talking no motive outside of Ava Sutril talking no motive and it was hard.

You know, it's still, you know, obviously I'm looking a very filtered out demographic of who I'm calling on, but then to but then to rewind and say no, I'm I'm really there's no agenda here.

There's there's Pasha to offer them the service of a rabbi to have a a connection to a Shi have to have a connection to this.

But that that really is possible.

It's a lot easier when I'm just when I'm not in charge of the world.

I'm not in charge of the outcome.

I'm not in charge of how this is going to play itself out, how to face.

And sure enough, some of those relationships developed into beautiful relationships and and some of them are dead ends, whatever.

But but even from a very basic perspective like that, how I interact with people is affected on my batach level is of course the fundraising, of course, the scheduling, of course programming is all affected by that.

But that foundational attitude is like, actually, I'm in charge.

He really is.

And, and the money I have in my bank account this morning, the how many people come to my program is mamish from the amateur.

But sometimes, you know, I blame myself more.

Either I blame myself when less people come or I take credit when more people come.

Both of them are wrong.

Both of them are wrong.

The only, the only thing I control is did I make the phone calls?

Did I did I do my best in my, in my industry for the effort that I'm supposed to put in?

I think that's what they ever puts the line.

Are you doing the, are you, are you doing the best you can in the, in the industry of what you are performing, what the normative process is?

Are you doing that the best you can and then stop trying to manage the world?

I would, I would also take it a step further.

It's not only that you don't have, you know, you're not trying to control the result.

You can't be in a spell from the result as well.

It's like, oh, someone gave a huge donation.

Let's go Dan Takafas or being dejected because someone told you, you know, whatever they were talking about finances, but it's and they get there's so many other aspects of life.

Part of that is not being it's not it's not just step number one is not looking for the outcome, just doing what you need to do.

Step 2 is not letting the the ups and downs control your minds and your and your emotion.

That's.

I wonder that hypothetically a person with complete and there there there was a moment that I thought that complete battalion might look on the outside like apathy, right, Because both of them, you don't go high, you don't go low.

The dinner Makitsa there.

But I realize that's not true.

Complete battalion is a person's actually always basimcha.

Hypothetically, you might look a little crazy, but you're always on a high.

One second, there's a video that the debit tells who was it?

He said.

He's giving me 500,000 to Labovich.

You know what I'm talking about the.

Federation.

I forgot who it was, but and the debit says that's it.

Yeah, a million, maybe a million, the debit says.

And the episode 1,000,000 would be a lot, would be a lot better.

Hashant from Toronto.

I don't think it was him, but episode 1,000,000 would be a lot better.

And the idea is if you like, let's say, obviously it's different, but if, if someone is so excited about the $500,000, you can't, it's not a, you can't do that gimmick and say give a, give a million, that's not going to work.

But if you think that the person will benefit and have a bigger mitzvah giving a million, so you're going to let him know.

Right.

And and the fear that he might be turned off, whatever it's not, it's that's not part of my calculation.

Right.

So and it's also, I mean we're talking about finances like by attention Sharia Batakan talks some schlier told me that he was learning Sharia Batakan with someone who is one of his constituents and the guy said, oh, this is all about money.

I don't have I don't have that problem, but Hashem but.

But most most of the talking challenge I don't know.

Most I know for myself, a lot of the time it relates to finances.

For your and and that's also across the board because.

Day-to-day person, unless they're tremendously, you know what tremendously wealthy people.

I, I have a friend who's tremendously wealthy and he worries.

He checks his his balance, his his net worth every day.

Right.

That's complete.

That's like he's a traditional guy, not, you know, whatever check my job is, but he checks his net worth every day.

I can't imagine Bill Gates, Elon Musk every morning, you know, am I the top or am I the top three of today?

That's a that that same fear is the person with, I mean, it's expressed itself different, but it's the same lack of Batachan and the guy who's has $8 or -1000 dollars and when you're under duress, it's it's tremendously difficult, but it's the same lack of Batachan.

And there but there but also a lot of the there's other things that are connected to be talking very much that not really I mean there aren't actually is really to find out.

I was thinking about you mentioned a different conversation that have sickness about the family planning.

So some of it is about, you know, the heart, the hardship, the emotional hardship on especially on the mother, but a lot of a lot of the sickness are addressing the financial.

I mean, you speak to people that don't have this outlook and it's a very simple husband, can I afford to have another kid and we never someone that's a Mahuna.

If that's not a calculation, that's not.

That's not one of the calculations at all, because.

Spells it out.

That's very specific.

It's every child not only opens up a new spiritual reservoir.

The GEMARA, the GEMARA.

The GEMARA says it comes from the GEMARA.

Yeah, OK, that's above my pig grid.

Go.

Ahead right.

So the so yeah, it's just it's just the these muscles are I I heard a story.

It doesn't make sense a person with with with 678910 kids.

Right, I heard a story I think.

I think.

I'm pretty sure Pesach Shmura link is the one that posted this story, but I might be wrong.

He'll correct me.

And that Rabe Miami Klein you mentioned them earlier, came to the Rebbe with a sack of letters, people running to the Rebbe and the Rebbe said that if people would learn child be talking, this sack would be half empty.

And the idea is everyone has problems, everyone has challenges.

What does a yid do?

As soon as he has a problem?

He writes to the devil about it.

But if you are, if you're in tuned and you believe in the abish there and you have the proper bitachen, you don't have that problem.

Yes, you have the technique.

There's no problem to begin with.

Right, the Hashlakis you have the the practical implications of this you have like anyone else, you're able you you write what's really bothering you.

But if it's not really bothering you because you believe in the abish there.

Does does a person with complete bitaka never write?

First of all.

Serious Davis, he writes.

You could write to the Deb of serious Davis.

I mean, in general, the whole concept that, you know, some people are say I'm going to the aisle, have me mine for a bracha, right.

That's like a people use that that.

Status.

Yeah, whatever.

Yeah, I mean, it's true.

The Rev gives brachas and every hosted right to the rabbit.

When you need something, a bracha, that's not why we go to the aisle.

We don't go to the aisle to ask for brachas.

It's like there's a language used in other cries and you go to to Tadek Pilon.

Alice gets like, you know, to accomplish something.

Who said you're going to accomplish something?

You a hosted has to go to the rabbit because that's where a hosted is connected to the rabbit.

Yeah, obviously if I need Abdaka, you know, I'm going down to the and I'm going to ask the the for Abdaka, but that's not why we go.

So I mean, they ever spoke clearly about this whole concept of the sort of right that the only time you hear from them is when they need something and you never hear from them any other time.

Especially Absurdityva, right?

There's that famous video where above other Tufschen and Bayes when they ever someone tells whatever that this is a child that was born.

Yeah, child born from abracadabra says thank you for telling me not not everyone is doing so.

You have this says, I mean, this is this is such a such an important, such an important concept, but it, but it's it's really it's really dependent on the person.

You know, and the same thing is like, you know, the Abish there is, is that Akhon Bahanun?

I mean, Ishwanasi, we're asking, we're asking for all the Bakasha Straka.

We're asking for everything you need.

But there's also the Sukhde Zimbler.

So so the biggest Krishna that that's part of the package.

You know that you need to have that too.

And just asking what you need.

I mean, this is the famous mice of Altereba that Hassid came to the Altereba says the story hassed came to Altereba and he said he needs this, he needs that, he needs that and Altereba said thus is out for studarfs.

If I think I'm saying it correctly, this is everything that you need of a vosmeddarf vandir de monsuvo slander.

What's needed from you.

You don't mention at all.

So it's like a.

Someone someone wrote a letter to the deva and the deva in that settle.

I don't know if it was English or Hebrew, but they they I need there was a bunch of I's I think that ever just circled all the I's was like a thing from ice or or if whatever it was that ever just circled and like returned to sender and like a little a little sharp, but but you know.

Goodbye today there is a lot of focus on the eye.

Yeah, like in the in the culture that that that's a big focus.

Is that Astira to to to this?

I don't know, there's the mental health world.

Right.

Is it a still?

What is it?

I don't know.

The reality is that the focus is there.

You can't undo the.

You can't put the the salt back into the shaker.

See, people are self absorbed, you're saying?

Culture is such maybe that's actually Darshvi that you know that the bittle should affect even the even the self obsession should even reach there.

Somehow that also becomes biblic.

The focus on self also becomes in a way that I'm that I'm humble about it.

You can't undo the culture of of self obsession.

You know, everyone's on their phone, the the Instagram invocation of the world of of everyone.

Everyone's on a podcast speaking.

You can't undo the culture.

The question is, how do you take a culture where there is an obsession with self and sometimes somehow turn it around to make it into a into a an idler reality?

I.

Mean yeah, I mean that I think maybe that's the whole concept that whether the Devon makes empowers the individual that every individual has the achaelous.

I mean, I heard I heard of art from Chase Taub said that and he he has a column, if he still does, he has a column in the Omni magazine is answering people people's questions to someone.

Someone told him that this is like you really.

Oh, he said it's very hard for him to do it takes out takes, takes takes a lot.

So I'm told.

You Can you imagine the Rebbe, all these letters and you have to you have to take out, you know how much it takes from the Rebbe.

Now you now you see what it's like.

So I think he said that's not, that's not the part that's not so exciting.

That's obvious.

That's very what's exciting is that the Rebbe really knew the inner workings of everybody, right?

People wrote to the Rebbe often these days letters are coming out.

We always have the rabbit's answers.

Now it's becoming in style.

People are signing the the letters they wrote to the rabbit where there's some people uncover some files and they send it all over.

You seen the way people wrote to them.

People wrote to the rabbit everything, everything that's going on.

So rabbit tab says the rabbit now he answered me.

He knew everybody so well and yet and and he thought he could build an army with these people.

So I think that's, I think that's what it is.

It's taking the, the, the self, the self absorption and utilizing the, I mean, no one, no one.

I mean, only in Derashvi, I mean, there's never such a concept told Derashvi that every Hassid is empowered to change the world that never existed.

It was from Ashwin.

It was for, you know, for for Abanim.

I mean, it started, it started in phases, maybe that the nearest Lahayer.

But then the rabbit said the famous Sikha that this generation nearest Lahayer, it changed.

The rabbit said, hey, the rabbit says that in the previous generations nearest Lahayer was if you're a of this generation is that nearest Lahayer.

Every single person is a lamplighter and nearest Lahayer, no matter if it's not the time or not that it goes over to the whole generation.

I think that, you know, imposter syndrome is, is a real thing in the sense that I think I know for myself and people, friends that I talk with and talk with younger Shilkhem as well, you know, who, who am I to actually make a difference in a very real way, you know, especially when you see the.

You talk to younger Shilkhem in what?

Like in what capacity?

As it happens sometimes calling for advice, sometimes whatever you know, financial advice or, or or just senior peer advice.

And let's let's say you say in financial advice, people call in and, and advice on how to structure finances or how to build a mice like that, you know, responsible finances.

So I found that a lot of people don't feel worth worthy of whether it's the salary that they're taking or they don't believe enough in the 'cause that they're representing whatever.

I'm so much, I mean yokel in, in my little town, you know, what am I doing over here?

I haven't done much yet.

I'm actually 2-3 years.

I haven't accomplished much.

I'm costing X amount.

I'm not worth the money that I'm, that I'm taking.

I, I, I don't see myself on the same level of, you know, the stars in Lubavitch, The, the, the, those that have at least in a revealed way, high level influence of the world around them.

You know, we, we compare ourselves to them and it's like, you know, I'm not accomplishing much.

I'm not worth that much.

And then you start the conversation about no, you know, you are genuinely the boy kayak of Asam Samuhos in your little town.

You're worth you're worth an infinite amount of money.

Not the money is the is the barometer of what you're worth.

You are worth every the Jewish world has to invest everything it can in you because you really are a huge deal.

You really are.

I'm not a yokel in a little town with eight people at my minion or, or, or, you know, nine people at my say there.

It's a very lonely and discouraging job at times when when you don't believe in in your true power and potential.

And I think there's that.

I don't know people trying to figure out, you know, your whole life, you're trying to figure out your own ego, your own, your place in the world and I, I forget where we got here.

You're.

Talking about the power of the individual, the.

Power of the individual.

They never talk to believe in every single person.

They never believed in in the person themselves that you are the most important guy in your town.

That Shia has to really believe that the real that Shia really has to internalize that I did.

I remember years ago I had a dare.

I think you have to like make a a Jingle and every time someone podcast says their hair, you play like a little their hair Jingle.

So last the hair, last the producers that that.

That there you go, I added their hair.

That there's a vert.

I don't think it's it's the devil's vert, but there's a vert of wise art to show where it is geographically.

That's at the intersection of Asia, Africa and Europe.

You know, bus MIT Amol of all the places on on why did why is that Makima Kadesh?

Why is that Erica Kadesh?

Why is that?

Why is that there?

And because that's really the intersection of the world that Lahab builds the Times Square of reality and anyone doing business between Africa, Asia, Europe has to go through that part of the world.

And therefore the Eden's job is to is to influence the world.

If we're the Avrama Vinu of humanity that really have to influence everyone, the best way strategically to be able to do that is is right there at that intersection.

And therefore actually soil is purposefully there, even though it's not a great, you know, there's no oil there and there's no trace.

But that's the place because to to to make a deal about, that's the place it has to have.

I think part of that part is like the whole hash Pol.

The whole world happens to the Yidden.

So all people have to come in contact with Eden in order to get their Harshva.

So that is the greatest place in order to accomplish that.

So I thought that that the Schliach is the same thing in his locale.

The Schliach is the same, represents Eric Chisol, marked Eric Chisol in his little corner of the world.

Really, the entirety of the Harshva of the whole community happens through the Schliach's office, living room, Khabad house meetings, the Starbucks that the Shiak goes to.

That's where old Ashfaas of the town happened.

And the Shiak has to really embrace that.

Meaning everyone in the town, no, who am I?

No, every influencer in town has to have a Yakhas with the Shiak, every school Superintendent, every anyone in town that that is a Mitzi as Dover or not Amitzi as Dover.

There hashba comes to the local shiya and therefore it's the shiyaq's responsibility to, to, to step into his position of influence of, of what am I doing here?

And you know the opposite.

Embrace your ego, embrace your, your, the power that you have, which is that AB is uftu of, of celebrating that mitsias of celebrating that, that the Takhtin Shen Takhtin Lamatammen and the, the, the, the, the, the ego and saying run with it.

You are the most important person in your town.

Now, if you do that in a selfish way, you're going to screw the whole thing up.

If you do that in a selfish way, you're going to you're going to have a negative impact on the on the community.

But if you do that in a proper way, in an age of the way, then your ego is the most important ego of the town.

I think it's also, I think that's the concept that's brought down, which is not about a schliere in particular, it's about a Hassid in general.

That hassid maktasvive that you create your environment, you create an environment.

I think it's the same concept that what is the definition of a hassid?

A Hassid is somebody that you know, you use the word influencer that people use that word today.

It's actually a good it's a good word.

Every every Costa is is an influencer or or is supposed to write it says name.

If you're not, it's if it's a Brecon, right?

You know it's a if you're not an influencer.

If you don't dive in, if you don't dive in by Veda, the worst thing is that you're not an influencer.

That's just.

And that's how you're new.

Yeah.

This has been Kanish, Kanish Pearlsan.

If I tell you, then that's, you know, the worst thing is they're no longer an influencer.

It's a famous.

A real influencer, not ABS, could say this to the influencer.

Right, There's a famous says that I don't know if it's how famous it is that the Revis says that if you're dominating a Chavez and you're have your towels over your head even if you're sleeping, but it looks like you're damning a Veda is already an Indian.

So I never.

I never understood.

That no what?

What do you?

Go ahead, explain it.

Explain it.

I think that the concept is no one's.

I'm not looking to be fake, not the idea, but you're a healthy facet.

Basically.

A lot of people think that they're in their own corner.

I mean, Vasilia has that, that's Tamashtos and that needs to be taken care of.

But sometimes people have legitimate reasons for saying this.

Let's say I'm not a schliach or I'm one of the slushom in the town.

You know, I'm not so important.

And I think that that part about the talus, but in general we're talking about is that you can never look at yourself as you're not part, you know, you're just you're just, you know, part of the collective crowd.

You know, there's the fame in the circus.

Many very often when the Rebbe speaks, the Rebbe says Yader Ener von Ayich von Ayich al Tazam, it's a lotion that the Rebbe uses.

Everyone of you in particular and all of you together.

So you need you need both of those because we have how we're part of a cloud and also the Pratt.

So it's just an important part of the fabric of being a Hussard in general.

And a Hussard there should be in particular is recognizing that you are a person of influence.

I mean, everything that you know that writes in so many letters not to move from your from your location.

Obviously the rabbit did let people move.

You know, you know, there's I'm I'm generalizing, but you see a kind of that doesn't like when people are are are are are abandoning their community.

Why, who am I?

I'm for sure that never lets people leave.

But I mean, I I, like I said, I made a disclaimer, the word cases that they did let generally, but any person, you're a YID, you have a spa on your community.

That's it's a it's a real revolutionary concept.

I meet people that, OK, we're making aliyah.

We're going here.

I mean, not outside of lava, which I'm talking about.

We're doing this, we're doing that.

And like, you know, I'm not going to get into too many details because I, you know, but I don't want to talk about individuals, but I've saw instances where I saw how those people were very effective in the community.

They weren't necessarily abundant or they had this project and they did that project.

And one of them, one of them were were was actually making aliyah, not not all about.

I asked them, did you find a replacement?

I asked this person, did you find a replacement for this program They used to do that You do.

They never even thought of it.

It's not because it's not because they don't care.

It's because it was the thing that they did.

And now they moved on.

They're on to the next.

Chapter of their life.

It's not their.

It's not.

Their responsibility in the community so far, Barack Hashem, I convinced they really want to make aliyah.

Hey, I'm here, Michelle, thank you.

And they really, really want to make aliyah and Barsham, you know, they're, they're quite often, but conversations with them about that ever wants you to stay here.

If, if you're influential here, if you and the very influential here in community, you don't have the privilege of, of leaving.

You are influencers and, and embracing the influencer position is and, and you can talk about it.

You actually don't, you know, no, you are influential and you don't have the the privilege or the right to pick yourself up and make aliyah, which talk would be very nice for you.

It would be very nice, maybe even adding your shmine, which is debatable if it will or won't, but but it might even have, you know, be a plus in your own Yiddish kite.

But you have the chaise here.

Right.

And and sometimes it right and sometimes I mean the whole concept of Schluchus when the devil was introducing it.

It's it's clear in the circus.

Look, look at the circus, the way that Abbot is very interesting in general to, to, if you learn the early circus, you can see how the Rebbe is developing the concept of schlukas, not necessarily as they're always about schlukas.

So the whole concept of of of Hafatza, the idea that that the Rebbe has the mechanic from, you know, from olive base and one of the things that the Rebbe says there.

Training a generation to think in those.

Minds, right, Right.

Yeah.

So one of the things that the Rebbe says is, yes, it may affect your spiritual and your ruchnistic of growth, but it's what's needed for you and other people can benefit from it.

So it's your responsibility.

So we were discussing this in a different conversation that I think the Deb is approach in general is powering through giving responsibility.

The more you did, the more you you got empowered to do more.

Right.

And it's like some people have a hard time with it, like, you know, what do you want from me?

I do, I do what I can.

Obviously you do what you can.

And but it's, I think it's a, it's such a different approach to life that like that approach that it's, you're doing it for yourself.

It's, it's part of your slam.

It's everything, right?

The selfish motives that, but it's for yourself.

You want to look at yourself as someone that has responsibility and then someone has influence because ultimately you're going to be in a healthier spot.

Your family's going to be in a healthier spot.

If you, if you feel like you're doing something, I mean, someone sent me this little a meme.

There's a new breakthrough, breakthrough new approach to self-care.

And the new approach is that there's been studies that if you help others, it actually helps you be happier.

This is this is a huge, huge breakthrough in modern.

Psychology.

Billions of dollars of research.

Right.

And this is, this is basic Reb, you know, you know, this is so basic and, and but people take it for granted.

Like or they're not realizing or they're not tapping into that.

Like, you know, you, you have you, you're a massive influencer.

And a lot of times also people look in, oh, this is this is wrong.

This is, you know, they're trying to look at society or they're looking at in Lubavitch.

Like this is not going right.

And that's not going right.

And then they complain about it on their WhatsApp group or to their to their best friend.

By the way, every from their perspective, every part of Elam Haza has to become Alputeda.

Every single part of the human experience, your Saiful, your Midas, your Misa, you know old estrus fetus of your makeup and the the entirety of civilization.

Part of bringing Mushiyak is the entirety of civilization is that it's functioning alputeda.

You know whether it's shameless audits happens alputeda that would shoot them that the only way real Shalom can happen is when it's Alputeda.

If it's make believe ideas, then it's just temporary measures that won't really bring Shalom Almitta.

It can only happen Alputeda.

Commerce can only happen Alputeda.

Business money can be only real money can only be made.

Albeit society should only ultimately be running Alputeda.

So each one of us have huge influence on a segment of the world that is still not running Alputeda.

And whether it's a Shalia, everyone in this context, every single person is a Shalia, which is how they're ever presented it.

That we all have a part of Elam Hazah.

That is not it says in a yemi, but siddims and schluchem for that.

To to create a reality where everything in this world is functioning on potato.

So you know, there's there's never a moment where where you're you're outside of a shiksus.

There's a room full of gallium and you're in the room.

Great.

Well, I think it was Drizzen in California when that the the cult killed they killed themselves.

Is that you know what I'm.

Talking about Nope.

I mean, I heard of the cult that killed themselves, They can elaborate.

I think the 70s, I don't know, late 60s, early 70s.

Rabbi Drizen was AI Metriticia in San Francisco, in Northern California, something.

He was in Berkeley, I believe.

No, that was short.

Maybe both of them.

OK.

And there was a the cult, either they were there or they were sourced from there or they, I don't know from there.

And they, they all committed mass suicide.

And soon thereafter, how the cult called him and says hi talking.

He's like hi talking like ma like what?

What, how do I get mixed into this?

They're a bunch of, although probably there were many of them were Jewish, but they live there.

It's an hour from here.

Whatever it is, it's far away and.

The Catholic of says you have to assume responsibility.

It's your thing, it's your thing, it's your part of the world.

You know, that's that.

You are in a position of influence.

It's under your umbrella, whatever that means.

But just like all these things that I've ever pushed, which is a novelty of Derishvi, that all these things should, should happen is really understanding that every person can influence every part of reality, that it should be Alputeda.

Actually, Alputeda, I said this.

I'll be, you know, deeper, deeper things.

And this would also explain why Derishvi is tasked with bringing.

A natural that's a natural conclusion of this process.

Right, because when you're.

When you're doing this and when, when, when every single detail of reality is infused with the Mayan itself, then automatically Mashiach happens.

It's like that's a natural outcome.

Right.

So the devil basically, Ambassador Ghani was setting out the mission and telling every Hassid that Sidis will no longer be, you know, for Suddhim.

But Lubavitch is not a party, he's not a Maflega, and each one of you have to be Mushiyaf and you're all going to take responsibility for this.

It's a crazy idea.

Rather, if you look at it from a very grub analytical sense, the bit the Rebba's business strategy systematically laid out from Tashin Yun even before Tashin.

What's the goal?

The mission state like that is very like vocal.

There's a mission statement.

That was said in America.

We like the statement.

Right mock statement.

It lays that as a mission statement.

Then if it slowly starts building infrastructure, then if it slowly starts it never, you know, waits for certain things to come from Siddhim, whatever it is.

Certain certain initiatives come from whatever.

Like with progressively goes and slowly goes and builds up this, this, this, this flywheel effect that just bigger, bigger and all of a sudden all the everything that sucked into it and, and, and, and you have a little Barber what it is today.

But it it's a fascinating.

I don't know if there's a, you know, an article is written about the Deb is business strategy, but the Deb is.

Weren't you, weren't you working on such a project?

No, something similar I don't know you want we have a couple, $1000 for me.

What?

What is the project?

Really.

We're going to go there.

OK, I, I had seen an article, I want to say 10 years ago of the, of someone built the data of shalas and shuvas.

I don't even know when the shalas and shuvas are.

I don't know, 304 hundred, 500 years ago of each shot, the shalas and shuvas of the the reach of the shalas and shuvas meaning.

OK, I'm drawing a blank.

Who's a shalas and who who?

Give me an example.

The neighborhood, is he a challenge?

Yeah, I guess.

Right.

OK.

The neighborhood is sitting in in a shtetl in the the, the Prague, the the planet on the.

Planet Prague.

Prague, Prague.

Near the gala and he's sitting there and he's.

Yeah, it's if you listen to Shmokunda, you would know that the Lady Behood is from Prague there.

You go.

I think that Tovito is blocked on, you know that video.

I can't.

Watch pre it's pre tovito.

I mean this is that cassette and then the car we listen to it.

OK.

So maybe in the Teledons they don't have a actual condo you.

Don't have you don't have cassettes.

OK.

So we so Knight of Hood is sitting in his basement or his living room, wherever he is.

Is that the same guy that the longest Pesach?

Same guy?

Yeah.

That's the story, yeah.

OK, so he's I I already can hear the sounds of his living room.

He's sitting in his living room.

The guy knocks now he's sitting in his living room and he sends out 500,000 different letters shots and shoeless.

So they actually in a very cool way, built out a database of all the places and dates that he sent out letters.

So you have, you can see, I don't know what year he lived in.

You know, this year he sent letters there and then that year.

And you can see over the course of the thirty, 40-50 years that he's sending out letters the reach of the native Huda.

And you can do that with many different authors over the course of their lifetime.

The influence, it's actually the thing at the University of Haifa.

So they would digitized Chalis and Shivas.

I thought it was cool.

I thought, why don't we do that with whatever, whatever, never.

Happened.

So a year and a half ago, tears ago dawned on me that maybe Taki can.

I don't know the technology, but I started babbling in it.

So imagine you can do the reach Alpi das Takhten.

We don't know the reach, it's impossible to quantify it.

But imagine I'll P das Takhten, if you can digitize the devil's reach meaning from from Samak Bayes, you know, you have a small dot in the nephew Petrowski Nicolive, Nicolive Nicolive.

And then and then over the course of time.

So you have you have different metrics, you have different data points of what the of of where that was.

So you have mazes open, you have Schluchem sent, you have letters sent.

So you have the date and the location.

You have places referenced in Cycas.

You have Tanya's printed, you have Marekish Slochem sent, you have things like that.

You have places that ever went.

So imagine you can actually have it on a map.

These type of visuals of the reach of the bar should have it.

Now you can do it in a way you can do that.

Pull up the data multiple ways.

Tufshen Huff what it what was done in Labovic in Tufshen Huff people that came from the fittest, where did they come from?

It's a, you know, in communication Hebrew and English, what there's, there's, there's 10,000 Hebrew letters and there's at least another 10,000 English of other languages letters from that.

There's 20, thirty, 40,000 minus, whatever it is, there's a tremendous volume of data that is that is available to be able to really quantify or visualize.

You know, I have the thing that I just give to the world and all the cities that currently have Labovich, but that's not that's not a strong visual and it's also not interactive and it's not over time.

So imagine you can do Tauchenkhoff.

What happened in Tauchenkhoff?

These are the Schlotzschmansen, the mazes open, the American Schlotzmansen during those years, the minus sent the letters that etcetera.

Imagine you could do from Tauf race, Samak base till Tauchenkhoff.

Where was Labovich at that point?

I believe if you have all that data, you can create a an interactive map of really covering the planet.

I mean where, where on this planet was there not a letter sent or Schliach didn't walk through and it's.

Funny I I just sent I just recently saw a letter from the Deb in English.

There's someone in Stanford.

20 years before.

He lives Mamish around the corner from where I live and no one knows.

I asked a bunch of people that have been Darren and others they don't know is it was it was before and we don't know it, but the level was communicating with the Yid that lives around the block from me, you know.

I moved into.

I moved into Smithtown.

Your father hasn't.

Your father has hanging in his office a letter that the Deborah wrote to.

What was that group in Long Island?

There was a group that was becoming from and that was the precursor for for your parents becoming Schluchem in Long Island.

Your father has the letter that I wrote to them.

It's hanging in your father's office.

I moved to Smithtown four years ago to a new house.

I'm walking to remove their pace.

Six months later, you know, you know your neighbors, you wave at them, you smile at them.

I don't really know who you are.

I knew there was a couple doors down there as a Jewish guy and I'm walking to show the show in the morning.

I walk by this guy's house.

He's in his, He's out in his car.

He's washing his car to show in the morning.

Music blasting, young kid.

I walk by, he waves at me.

Happy Rosh Hashanah, Rabbi.

I say, oh, you want to hear Schaefer?

I walk over.

He he comes out, put a yamakan and blows Schaefer.

And he says to me, oh, I was by the oil yesterday.

Like what?

Because yeah, whenever I have a problem, I go to the oil.

Did I say it right?

Oil so he says, but it was too busy.

There were too many people is that I was trying to there were too many people so I left I'm going to go back next week.

I was going to ask him like how'd you end up there and that's like the stupidest question ever like what do you mean how'd you end up there?

Of course he ended up there but stop that ever that ever didn't need me like that ever has his you know maybe I'll have this list to be able to get involved in this person's relationship that you know the relationship and independent without me.

But so I actually spent some time researching.

So we have, you know, the, the Mazdas generally have the data available, some data that America should come with earlier is not, is not digitized in any real way.

It's, it's hard to track, but maybe this can be part of the process of digitizing.

Ironically, I reached out to the guy who, who originally digitized the Charles and Schumer thing and he's, he got all excited.

He says University of Haifa would love to get involved.

And he quoted me $40,000 to build out this huge map.

I said no thank you.

But on fiber I got a guy.

Oh, he wanted 40.

$1000 He wanted $40,000 to build out this interactive map that that really can.

So what?

What do you think of the?

What is the point of this besides the data?

The point is that there has to be influencing every every, every corner of the globe.

The Bible should have the hour to have the really changed If Mashiach's going to if Mashiach's coming is dependent on us reaching every corner of the globe with the mind itself and really getting there.

That gives the visualization of of how that's happening.

Also, let's say Tanya's he in a place.

No, Tanya was printed there.

It's very hard today to find out was a Tanya ever printed here?

So boom, you have.

Yeah, you can find it.

What?

What?

Where?

Is there a place?

It's all great for Schluch's development of this.

People.

So you're saying this is also could be a tool to see where on the map?

Once it happens, once it happens, there's a lot that can be done with it and and and the mazes are very supportive of it happening also.

They just need someone to pull it all together onto onto onto 1.

Maybe that's a dead hair project next, but whatever it's it's it's using modern technology to really appreciate the enormity.

It's it's hard to fathom they're at this reach on the world.

It's hard to put that in a visual of what that actually means.

Literally every ip code either has a Tanya printed, has a schliach, has a Mace.

It has America schliach in certain areas of the globe.

It's a pretty cool whatever.

It's a pretty cool idea.

Right.

Sponsorships are available.

And you and the vision is that it goes after the mutamazoso.

Yeah, 100%.

Imagine you can see from from 19 O 2 to 1925 to 20 that to 2025 as as the world just gets covered with these little flames or whatever you want to whatever the icon is.

Did that was influenced, you know, by the Kinnis.

It's you know, OSHA went out before given time was OSHA went.

I don't think even time was you don't really see, you know, everyone's halfway standing anyways.

When you see Yatim Mahaye, you actually see Yatim Mahaye.

Like you can actually see wow like this is this is a crazy visual.

And it's also because in the Yatim Mahaye reality is how we're going to fulfill the mission it's going to.

It didn't.

It didn't happen before and it's going to happen now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And by the and by the way, well get tied everything in believing in in this mission and really having a muna Mushiach to also tied into the Batachan.

If you think that you're here, Mikra Nikras, and you're here by chance and you just happen to be here because you don't really believe in the neighbors there, how Can you believe in Mushiach?

Believing really believing in Mushiach is a total outgrowth of having strong.

You say this in your moon in the Abish and and and and and in your Patachen.

So well, that's the mice that I I heard a different.

I always thought it was altogether that I just heard now that it might have been someone else that altogether came back from from his ditch.

You know, you know the story.

Go ahead.

I always thought it was altogether, but then I don't know.

And then someone asked what were you, What did you learn there?

There's a abras there.

So you don't know there's a abras there.

My, the, the shifter knows it also.

She brought her in and asked her what you know, is it abras there yet?

So he said that.

She says there's a abras there.

I know that there's a neighbors there.

I think that's really the concept.

Wow.

That's the concept of it rather in general, but I mean by shem of mesha avde that the, you know, the nasim anasi anasi Ade is my farness, the amuna it gives us, it sustains our amuna.

And the ebishter, You know when, when you have the rabba lay, the rabbits are laying out.

There's an ebishter in this world, there's Basilagani, the Gnuni, the Malcolm Sheikhar Batuva, and you have the and and and and and and and translating that to here and now.

And now we have to actually make it did a bit to tell them and bring the aversion of this world.

I mean, this is a a huge, huge gift that that that we have as as pseudeman, that, that the whole world has to be able to have that clarity and that you know, that to, to know that it's real, to know, to really know that it's real.

And you know, to be able to wake up in the morning and say I'm part I'm part of this godly mission saying it's it's A and a shrinomatic volcano takes on a whole new dimension when, when it's coming in this context, it's not, it's not a shrinomatic volcano because we're we're, we're murdered and because of because of anti-Semitism.

And I shamed the volcano because I'm a Nifra.

That's also true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So now that we we sat together Shrinath Parmiut, we're already friends so.

We're just pretending.

We're just pretending.

So I'll, I'll, I'll share, I'll share a story.

Hopefully that ties a few things in together.

I'll shook up the talking.

So, so many years ago.

Well, not so many years ago, we were looking for a house for years, our recent house, our previous house and we were looking for a new house on try memory all the details correctly, but I might clarify throughout we're looking for no house and we couldn't find we just couldn't find one.

Of course, walking distance to Habad didn't work out.

Fast forward to it was a it's a tishri.

We after the tishri we put out, we, we, we expanded on Zillow.

We, you know what?

We'll find a mile radius from our house.

We'll find a walkable distance.

One mile.

Sure enough, within a few days after Yum Tiff, we found a house.

We, we, we put in a offer, we won the bid.

Great house, great location.

We had to, we had to refurbish.

We had to fix up our current house before we moved into the new one, so we couldn't sell that house until we bought the new one.

So I needed a loan.

I called my grandfather, they'd be Mexico.

He gave me a loan so that we can buy the new house.

Very good.

So we were supposed to close on the House December 20.

December 30th, you're supposed to close on the House.

Our lawyer had a whole thing lined up.

He sends me an e-mail about 10 days beforehand saying, hey, this is the amount we need for closing.

Can you please wire me the amount and I will send you.

And that way when we get to closing, everything will be fine.

We don't have to have any problems.

Wire him the money.

I call, go to the bank, I wire the money.

December that year, December 25th, Yeah, December 25th was Shabbos.

I went to the bank and he calls me.

The lawyer calls me December

24th, Friday at 3:30 and he says OK, the closing is next week when it's Thursday.

I just wanted to give you the numbers of what you should bring to closing a check.

I said place is supposed to that, you know, I already wired you the money and he says place is supposed to that.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Why?

Why, why?

Why do you think he sent me the money?

I never asked you for money.

And all of a sudden it dawned on me what happened?

Like oh shoot.

So I'm like he'll stop.

I said like you never asked for money.

He says, no, I never asked for money.

I said here's an e-mail that you sent me.

He says I never sent you that e-mail in case there was a hack, I had wired $136,000 to the proverbial Nigerian Prince in some some place, whatever.

And that was that was, you know, the loan that I got for my grandfather to go to closing.

So it's it's Friday afternoon 330 Shabbos is four O 7.

It's a it's a short Shabbos.

Shabbos is four O 7.

So I quick, I didn't even call home.

I ran to the bank.

I ran to Chase where the money was and their clothes are ready for the hugger.

I call, it's it's 3:45.

It's 3:50.

I call.

I don't know who to call.

The whole country shut down already and we have guests coming to our house in half hour, in 45 minutes.

I called the police and I say I don't know the right person to call.

Can you please kind of filed a report.

They said they'll send someone to my house.

I said, OK, but it's going to be the Sabbath and I can't do anything.

They said, listen, there's no one in the office now.

We'll do the best we can.

I run home, I walk in the house.

My wife sees, you know, sees something went off.

I'm like it's 410.

It's like ready after lift mention it's 4:15.

I said give me a second.

Let me just empty out my pockets.

I'll, I'll tell you everything.

I run into the bedroom to take out my, my, my stuff.

As I'm in the bedroom, the doorbell rings.

There's a cop at the door.

So my kids are there and no one knows what happened yet.

And there's a cop at the door and Tati's freaking out.

So I come out in my bedroom like, OK guys, everyone's OK.

I said everyone's fine, give me two minutes, I'll explain everything.

I step out of the house and I tell the cop, listen, this is what happened.

He says, oh, you know, when did this?

You know, when did you wire the money?

This morning, This afternoon.

I said no, I wired it like 10 days ago.

And he's like, oh, it was like it was 5 days.

It was 5 days before I spoke to him.

And he's like, oh, OK, you know, whatever.

Like if it was this morning, it was what to do about it.

Five days, it was nothing to do about it.

He's there.

He takes down a police report.

I go back into the house and my wife and kids are standing there like what just happened?

I said, listen, Tati made a mistake and I wired the money to some crook.

We're going to buy the house.

We're going to, I have no idea how, but we're going to buy the house.

And I, I, I have no idea.

That's all the information I know.

I, I don't know anything else.

I wired the money to the wrong person.

And the closing is Thursday.

I'm going to buy the house.

I'm going to have a, you know, barrage.

And somehow internally, like it was just OK, Mendy, the guests are coming and everything you ever learnt in yeshiva about Shabbos and about Batachan and about maybe she runs the world and about whatever, you know, the moment Shabbos begins, Makhta Assuya, like everything the world Atsuya on Friday afternoon is perfect.

And somehow something just clicked in my mind.

I'm like, OK, let's go with this.

Like I have, I have nothing to lose.

Like I really there's nothing to do.

There's nothing to do.

Guests came.

It was a delightful Friday night.

Didn't I actually called those guests like a year later and said, did you were able to you notice anything that Friday?

I was like, no, everything was beautiful.

They didn't notice they.

Didn't know NASA, one of the families actually committed to put the kids in day school that night.

It was, it was, it was beautiful.

The moment which a shot was happened, of course, you know, now reality hits and I was like whatever, it's cost my weekend and not everything shot.

There's nothing to do.

There's nothing to do.

I called every person I knew that I felt could be influential.

No one can do anything.

And the moment they heard that it's like now it's 6-7 days ago.

There's nothing to do Monday morning comes OK, bye there.

So we, we get, we're able to track it that was sent from it.

It takes like 24 hours to get these things done because you have to get a, a permit from the government, from the police to go to Chase.

And they sent, I wired it to U.S.

bank.

OK, now you have to talk to U.S.

bank.

It takes another 2848 hours and 48 hours later, OK, now they sent it to, to the next, to the next.

Finally, the closing is on Thursday.

I borrowed money from 4 different people, $100,000 to go to closing.

We closed, we're still running after the money, it's nowhere whatever.

Then it's New Year's weekend.

Viking is pushed off for two days after a couple we found out that it was put into a Signature Bank account and the bank account belongs to a cryptocurrency company.

Like it's from there, it's a cryptocurrency holding company and the money gets sent to it the moment it's incur.

So during this process, like it was a genuine that week, coming back to Betochen was a very reality, a strong reality check, like you couldn't pretend anymore.

And that's when I asked you before about, you know, I said the difference between Betochen and apathy.

Right.

So what were you saying to yourself that week that takut, that angut, I know this is going to work out, I'm going to get the money back.

Or you were saying if I was a for the mebishen relying in the ibishen, that's it?

I didn't know what to think.

It was so overwhelming.

There were times that I thought both of those.

There were times that I thought, I remember distinctly having one thought when I when I found out that the money went into a crypto account, which basically means it's over.

I mean, once it's in crypto money, it's anonymous, it's gone.

So I remember the things that I heard that that Ribashka, when he was in prison, when he said, he said, when the last person he thought could help him said I can't help you.

I think he at that moment, either he got very upset or he got very, I think he actually got very happy.

Like OK, now only the aviister.

Can.

Only the aviister, only the aviister.

And when I went into Krypton, like, OK, God, this is momish only on you.

There's nothing that could be done here.

It's not PO no one, no one gave me even that small chance of, of getting back the money.

And, but, but in the course of that week, I, I was speaking to anyone that I can and I realized that, that I'm in a position of being able to share my battalion with other people that, that I share with people I have.

I have no idea how this is going to work out, but I'm but the aviation runs the world.

I wasn't, I wasn't in Yehudi Lama yet.

I wasn't like, everything's going to be perfect because the aviation run the world and, and everything like, I don't know.

I'm not nervous because I Sharon runs the world and, and, and, and I wasn't nervous.

I wasn't my heartbeat wasn't going up or down.

I wasn't Besimva but my but I was like OK this God's going to run the world and boom mamish.

2 weeks later I got a call from the from the detective.

He said Rabbi don't repeat the story to anyone because it will never happen again.

We found your money.

Like how, he says, Rabbi, don't ask, we have your money.

And in fact, it took four or six weeks and then they wired it back.

Your local Your local police court.

Threesome over here, whatever, you know, I don't know who they talk with and I don't know how it goes.

I spoke to the FBI, I spoke to CIAI spoke to Mamish, anyone that I thought knew anyone about anything.

But then they were all immediately at the end of the phone call, like Rabbi, there's nothing to do.

I've gotten phone calls, people that I've told this story to.

I've gotten phone calls from other people saying Rabbi, I wired money.

You know, how how do you get the money back?

I'm like, there's no, there's no method to this.

It's it was fine.

But in in the course of that time, it was a beautiful experience of actualizing Batuchen, of actualizing the tools that I read about char Batuchen, etcetera and learnt about and and charmained about.

But actually like, OK, you know, I called Ellie Rosenfeld in Florida who helped Schlechen.

I said, Ellie, I have this thing I discussed with my wife.

We're out $130,000.

We're we're, we're we're pretty confident that God's going to get it back to us.

I have no idea how.

So I want to preemptively commit to you $13,000 and I'm going to send you $1800 now.

I actually borrowed $1800 to be able to send it to him as a prepayment for the $13,000.

I just want.

You gave it.

You gave it The Tonight that you're getting the money back or you're saying no, this is a pledge no matter what the outcome is.

I the 1800 I sent and then I said, Ellie, tell the avister that there's more money waiting for you.

I don't know where, but there's more money waiting for you.

So as soon as I get that money, I'm going to send you the money.

That's it.

So Lapal, we sent him, you know, the another $12,000 and he said there was a wedding shiak in somewhere in Africa, in Ukraine or Russia that we able to send pay for that wedding.

And I made at the time, I made a list of all the beautiful things that happened because of the the theft, the wire theft.

And you know, whether it was going to the aisle and davening, like really, really davening, whether it was checking all the images in the house, whether it was adding shooting, whether whatever it was certain thing that it was a beautiful list of things that OK, so whether or not the money comes back, we already have beautiful things that that happen because of it.

If the money comes back, gravy, that'll be pretty cool.

But the pilot came back.

I'm able to, you know, send back my grandfather, the money, pay back the loans, start construction of my house, whatever, good stuff.

Fast forward, there's a follow up and a follow up to the follow up to the story.

But Fast forward, we got to move in a few months later till we sold our old till.

So Fast forward our new house, we were doing construction a week before we were supposed to move into the new house, there's a flood and destroys the floor.

Put in a brand new floor, all destroyed.

Call the insurance company.

They say no, you're not covered.

Why?

I didn't know this, but when you get insurance on your house, you have six weeks to move into your house or else it becomes a a rental, an investment property.

If you have two different properties and you need a special rider to expend your insurance on your new house.

I don't know.

We weren't it was supposed to take less than six weeks.

So we're not covered by insurance.

And now they say we have, you know, there's no money here.

I called a one of these people that helped with insurance.

He said there's nothing here.

He said do me a favor, try, but there's nothing here.

It's over.

It's over.

You know, I'm sorry.

There's nothing here.

There's no there's no responsibility of them to give you a dollar the pale and a conversation with my wife and you committed it.

If the money comes in, it's no money.

It's gonna put in the gelts Give my Sir.

Sure enough, two months later, we got a random call.

They said OK, we decided to give you $50,000 to cover the damage.

Mom, they didn't they didn't owe it to us anything Beautiful picture the next.

We're trying to sell our old house.

No bites, no bites.

No bites.

No bites, no bites.

It's a hot market.

Everything's selling.

We had to bring them nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

It's the middle of June, July.

I'm paying two mortgages schlepped.

And then I I I had, I stopped the reality like this.

It dawned on me the year before 2020.

Yeah, 2020 with the PPPs and all that.

Professor PPPs.

So the PPPs money came in, right?

Money came in and it was personal money.

It wasn't wasted money.

It was personal money.

And then whatever I had some other things that I was doing on the side that I was able to to bring in money and and when I made a Hegeman at in LL 2021 LL 20/21, I made a husband of the monies that came in.

So I gave my Sir during all that and it was like when I'm Eddie Roshani, you make a Hedgeman of the money they gave to the state.

No, you make a Hedgeman of the money you gave to the Mazus Kakamur.

So I made a Hedgeman of of the money and it was like a pretty cool number like wow, that was pretty cool.

I never thought I can give that much amount of stock up ever.

Wow.

So I remember at that time, so this is this is Eddie Roshanna 2021.

Remember at that time saying to myself, you know what, wouldn't it be cool if next year, even though there's no PPP and I wasn't doing the same things that I thought, I can make some money on this side if I can give the same amount of mice.

And I thought to myself, like, that's stupid.

That's like a silly thought.

Like it's not possible.

It's not like just the math is not Chai for me to make that much money, to be able to give that much mice is not in my wheelhouse to make that much money.

There's no, you know, PPP was a lot of money and other things, a lot of like, it's just not Chai.

Then I thought to myself, like, like, why?

Why do I need to manage the Avishra's money?

Like if he gave me this amount this year, he can give me a different amount next year.

So I wrote down on a piece of paper and I'm like, you know what?

Why am I being stingy with the Avishra's money if I'm already asking for that amount?

Go big or go home.

So I wrote the number double, literally double the amount of what I gave last year.

Simply doubling it.

Last year was a crazy number.

I'm like, why not?

It's not my money anyways, so I doubled it and I wrote it down on a piece of paper I actually sent to myself as an e-mail that should pop up in my Gmail account editor shown in the following year.

And then I it was such a crazy number.

I forgot about it.

That's why it didn't dawn on me.

I like forgot about it.

It was like a silly thought.

I'm standing now middle of of and I made the Hedgeman of the money that I stock.

I generally gave plus the money that I gave from the wire, $13,000 there, plus the $5000 from the insurance.

Like you know what we committed to give my Sir from the benefits and the profits on the sale of our old house.

Like wow, that's going to get me to that number.

I told my wife I'm like, I'm pretty confident we're going to sell the house before and I did the math.

I showed it to her.

She's like, how do I whatever.

That's pretty cool.

Sure enough, literally 3 days for Hashanah.

We closed on the House and we we on on on Scheidischel.

We went to contract and they asked special requests.

Usually it's 60 to 90 days closing.

They asked if we're OK doing it in 30 days.

Like, yeah, yeah, we can.

I.

Have a deadline to meet.

Right.

So we got the money and I had already planned out, you know where it's going.

Somewhere from Edra Shashana.

I took out a paper.

It was $300 more than the number that I gave that I wrote down in the e-mail the year before.

All right, I come.

Very cool, like the talk.

It all worked.

Out all worked.

Out I got the money back from the wire, I got the insurance.

I saw that was all.

They lived happily ever after, lived happily after all three.

Things that were not in my in my Mashava the year before.

Now it's Edra Shashana.

Now.

Now I'm, I'm, I'm a Lumid.

In, in, in, in, in, in, in, in this right.

I know how this works.

I know how the game works.

So I wrote last year, I doubled.

Now I'm a smart boy.

Triple.

I, I, I I know how this works.

So I wrote a number.

I wrote a number.

Fast forward the next year.

I didn't even hit the previous number.

It's a year later now.

Now, now I'm like going to my own internal.

And I thought that's how it works.

You put a number and you start giving towards it and a neighbor, she just sends, you know, fills in the blank.

So I was like, I was in retrospect, it's like silly, but I was like wondering like how TACA does this work and and and what's the algorithm?

So I was watching a inter a a gem interview with Armland from Florida from he has an interesting mindset.

Also similar thing Mogazen.

Yeah, so he he also he had he he came he was beating out the Odessa's and he and he gave I think $500 and then ever said Sen Melazi, which was a crazy number $5000.

There's a of of simpler like they never said he should do it happily.

And he he said, yeah, Le Peo the next he didn't have the money the following.

So he sold a piece of property Mama professor Shawnan, who's able to do that plus and he comes back the next year of Chavez bodacious and he's he's bidding things Alma Garari.

I forget who he's bidding against and they they were he's bidding, bidding, bidding because now he's a easy degree and and not only that, but that ever takes care of him.

Whatever number he says that ever is going to back him up.

So the rabbit so that they arrange that whoever, whoever the other person was wins and he gets second, he gets another coven.

But like did rabbit tell them I'll, I'll take it, you know, I'll tell you the number.

Basically an open check.

So he comes in for you this afterwards and the rabbit and he sits there and he comes in with the whole Balabatashkite.

You know, he describes like he comes in like that ever is going to tell him a number and he's going to write the number.

And then he knows that's his profit for the year times 10 and at the end of the year, like that ever doesn't bring it up at all and he's disappointed.

He's like, he's like, where'd I go wrong?

And at the he he brings it up and then everybody thinks says like 118 dollars and he's like heartbroken.

He's like devastated, like like is that I'm really that's what it's about.

I forget if this is him talking or they'd ever told him, but he realized again, I'm not sure if they'd ever tell him this or just him understanding himself that last year he came it was with sad Bitl and this year he came with the homicius, then brought him down to size.

Not only that, but also again, I don't know, I think this I'm not sure if this is him talking or me translating in my own mind about him talking.

But also like did Evan the previous year took him to a place where he didn't see possible did Evan took him to a place where was not in his was not in his behalf.

He's not shy after that.

What do you mean $5000?

They Evan took him to a different place and now you've got to figure it out on yourself.

You got to you got to you can't.

I'm not carrying you through this process anymore.

Now Zabe this attack to actually get there on your own and he doesn't follow up the rest of his life.

But you know what happened but but Barakasham he was able to give stuck but now he had to come to the conclusion himself and the automatic math of stick in you know the spreadsheet that number and times it by 10 and happily ever after.

That's what Hashem provided you for the year.

It's not it's not the algorithm about it used to work.

So it was a reality check for myself of OK.

You know, you did something very nice one year and it worked off one year.

And now going forward, you got to, you got to flex those muscles and, and work on the bituchen muscle of taking that leap and, and doing whatever I think is the appropriate thing.

But but stretching it and stretching it till it gets to a place where, where it's beyond my previous marchalness.

But you know, it's not a, it's not an automatic thing.

It it takes it takes work.

So you're saying that Bituchen is not a ticket for a good life?

And I saw that ever writes many times to people that at least in Gullus life is full of ups and downs and hardships.

So it's not a ticket that if you have real Batachan doesn't always doesn't mean that everything's always going to be good, but you will have that.

You will see that there will be times if you have been talking, you will see there are times in your life, but there is no other way of explaining it besides the Abish's hand.

And that gives you the ability not only to to stretch way beyond any place you can that you've gone before, but also helps you during those times when you're on those downs to also that realizes the same abish there and that you can you can do it.

Yeah, very good.

There's no, there's no, there's no free ticket.

Yeah.

And, and life is easier when there's when it's in of a toughened mindset.

Life is easier not because the things that happened to you, it's not like those things don't happen to you anymore.

Whatever those things that we stress about still happen and their life, you know, the, the, the waves are constantly coming at you.

Maybe life doesn't even change that much.

It does it like does change.

Life does change.

But even if it doesn't, you changed.

Yeah, yeah.

And and life becomes listen easier not as in there's not Sardis easier as in you have when you're when you're on maybe just shoulders, it's easier.

I saw a letter that that ever wrote to Mr.

Mel Lando from from Florida in the Lando Yeshiva.

So that ever writes him a letter that I I get regards from you from ABBA Schaumburg Lipscher and I also read the newspaper clippings regarding yourself and your business.

Apparently there was some downturn in his business.

You familiar with this letter?

No, but I heard that one during that downturn.

What he would do is he would I think he was Mamish like, I don't know, homeless, but like Mamish didn't have money.

He would sit in front of Lando Yeshuva and just watch the kids playing in the yard like that was his like that could never be taken away from him.

Stop him a cute, cute, interesting.

He would sit there and he had no business.

He had nothing, but he would sit there and just the land of Yeshuva was his and that's his nuts.

The.

The Rebel writes to him that a true leader in a business is not somebody that's an effective leader when everything is going well.

A true leader in a business is somebody that even when things are not doing well, uses that out when there's a as an opportunity to first of all, you know, recalculate and do things better, but also to be like an athlete that ever writes that takes steps back in order to jump over and even higher hurdle.

So having be talking the real be talking like is like when when things are going well, it's very easy to have be talking or you cannot have be talking because you don't need it.

You really get be talking muscles when you need it when when they presents you with a challenge.

So and one first of all, there's the revolution of the concept of takut the angut that just thinking positively about it and believing the AB shit that it will be good can actually transform the reality.

But there's also the concept that being in that mindset will you know if the ABS have decided this is what's going to happen to you, that means it's an opportunity and that's a real thing.

And they've just given you this challenge because you can have.

I mean, these are all things that Saints, but they're actually real and it's up to every single person to learn to have a success and learn Shabbat and learn Taylor right.

This I just saw someone wrote about depression that ever said you have to learn Taylor, right?

Because because that's the Taylor is makes you happy.

Learn Taylor.

So you have to you have to plug into all those things and then one or two things can happen.

It could be Taco the anggut or it could be that you have less of a problem.

The reality, even if reality doesn't change.

It's an interesting I can't figure out yet.

Someone can explain to me that the are you OK with the reality or Taco the anggut and when is that bestideth each other?

I recently missed a flight for the first the first time since I'm 17 years.

I'm only missed a flight twice in my life and I just missed a flight for the first time since I'm 17 years old.

Set the alarm the wrong hour and I'm running to the I'm running to the airport trying to make it and as I'm running, you know, I'm running through JFK as I'm running, I made a mental note to myself.

I don't need to go.

I don't need to go.

It was the truth.

Whatever I was going, I don't need to go.

Whatever I was meeting someone, fine, I don't need to go.

I want to go.

I kept them running.

I want I was trying to make the flight, but I made a meant to know that I don't need to go.

I got there.

I talked to miss my flight by 10 minutes and she's like, when do you need to be there?

I need to be there by 10:00 AM No problem.

There's a flight leaving in 20 minutes.

She put me on the flight like 20.

I ran to the other gate and I boarded my flight ganging.

So I was thinking afterwards and first of all, that was an amazing, but so was it like I was it was is that apathy that I don't need to go or it's Taco Vazan?

I think I think that's the right balance.

Like Taco Vazan, go do your status, run to the gate, but also don't be committed to that result because A that result may not happen B, it might happen a different way.

And it's all about Chaka Pratis.

Yeah, my return flight, it was a one day flight.

My return flight was also delayed 45 minutes.

So Mom much worked out perfectly.

Find that that the let's state muna.

The word muna comes from the word same etymology as practice or work.

You got to it's, it's something when it's not, you know, under pressure, that's the practice.

And then when the pressure happens, that's when it that's when it you know that when, when, when you have to implement everything that you're talking about.

And then you run on a you run on a treadmill.

I'm all I once ran on a treadmill.

I'm all it happened it.

Happened once.

It once happened.

I'm all yeah, whatever.

I'm going to the gory details, but I once was on a treadmill and it happened twice, a second, a third time.

And then the guy that I was doing it with, he was on a different treadmill.

But the guy that I was doing it with says now, OK, you have to go on the street.

You have to run in the street.

Treadmill is cute, but to really run, you have to run in the street.

So whatever it was, it was May, it was nice weather.

We went out, we started running in the street and I on the treadmill, I can run.

I would do 4 miles, let's say when I went into the street, I can barely do a mile.

I asked him, like, what's like, why is it so hard When you're doing the same thing?

It's very different.

When you're not in treadmill, you're not actually running.

You're picking up your feet fast enough that you don't trip.

It looks like you're running when the guy standing on the side, if you had a green screen behind you, it looks like you're actually running, but you're just lifting up your feet quick.

That the street underneath you, that the, the, the rubber underneath you doesn't strip you.

When you go into the when you go onto the onto the road, you actually nothing's moving you you actually you're doing the exact same movement, but it's a whole different muscle.

It's an entirely different experience.

So it stuck with me some, you know, you do, you do things, you're going through the actions, but, but it's practice.

You can't actually know how you're going to, how you're going to perform until you're, until you're on the street.

But you're doing all these things.

You're doing, you're doing, you're doing, you're doing, you're doing.

And then, and then the day's going to come.

You actually have to get on the street.

You, you can't just start running on the street without going on the treadmill.

It's only, it's the practice mode until you actually get out there.

It takes time, a lifetime.

So Kamuvan began Pashit that you can't wait till you get to the street in order to put in the practice.

Like it's so important.

I mean, it's, it's a it's a, it's a funny concept because when you don't need it, that's when you're a bucker, you don't have any worries.

So then it's not even part of your reality.

But, and when you get older, but, but if you don't, but if any, if you go into the, into the world, right, whatever you're doing, you know, when you're in slickness here in the world also, right?

And then also you have to face it, but you have no practice.

So then you can't, there's no way, there's no way you can do it.

So it's so it's so vital to, to really tap into this.

The earlier the better.

Yeah, yeah.

It takes practice.

It takes it.

Does you talking about it talk?

I want to ask the local guy.

He said.

When's the last time you spoke about God over dinner?

He looked at, he laughed at me.

He's like, it's such an awkward conversation.

Like if it's not, it's not part of the normal conversation to bring up those topics in good company.

Like with your like what what, what is the situation actually with your kid that you bring it up?

How can you know in in, in, in what?

What does that mean?

What does that mean for our alum?

What's a?

What's a?

If you don't proactively bring it up, it's a foreign topic if it becomes part of the conversation.

David Talent, I think Shay says a Bart, But Shane, David and David's daughter comes home, comes home from school and then says tab homework to have to tell a story of Ashka Kapratis.

So he says, OK, come.

He goes to the front door and he opens the door.

He points out he sees that car there.

She says, yeah, OK, that's Ashka Kapratis.

The fact that you saw that car, that's the story.

Yeah, she's like, but what happened?

Like, no, that's the story you saw that that's the the fact that you saw that car is the aviaster running the world.

It's not that, you know, something bad has to happen and then I get saved because I missed my flight and the plane crashed.

Why did why does the plane have to crash in order for me to see us?

Like the plane, the plane could survive.

And it's like the when you start talking that conversation, like, oh, wow, you know, just random that aviator runs the world.

Like that becomes part of the lexicon of the conversation.

It's it's awkward, it's a weird, it's a weird until you, until you start doing it.

It's a weird thing.

OK, so and any practical recommendations that you do to Hazak this this concept I I see you have the sign behind you like Saviad of the Rebbe to Zamajafi.

Don't worry so much about, don't worry so much about business more, but talking more Panosa.

Yeah, it's here and I have my house and I just give it a kiss whenever I'm walking you off.

And if I'm overdrawn, it's like, I don't know all these things.

I'm I'm, I've been an aversion to, I don't know, listen, every person baby steps, baby steps, people.

Everyone has to do things on their on their wherever you are now, do a drop more bringing it back to our the original conversation of the your opening monologue, your opening question about when I tell you that for years I partially didn't open a book like Mama, she didn't open a book.

I think I forgot to read Hebrew or something.

I don't know whatever, you know, life is distracted.

And then I never opened a book.

Now that we're already talking for for a while, like Kita Sama might have happened, might not have happened.

If I'm being honest myself, it didn't happen.

And whatever you know, the the problem is, it becomes a vicious cycle of of once you're not doing, you're not, you know, you beat up and shame and guilt and all that stuff.

Fast forward.

The only way I'm able to do to do what I now 2 1/2 hours in the morning is his mom is adding 5 minutes at a time.

Literally 5 minutes at a time like.

There's a story of the dev about that.

Go ahead.

The dev told somebody, I think I know who it is, but I'm not 100% sure the dev told them.

I think he asked them about learning because it wasn't learning that I've said learn for 5 minutes.

Right.

And not more.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, can move on again.

Pasha that the guy started learning 5 right?

He started at 10, he started at 15, etcetera.

And IA friend of mine, Sudarshiangyaman.

I can't talk to him because he's he's busy learning the whole cut the Taylor.

So the parish like the it's the match limit.

You know, he's not he has no time to listen to the podcast because he's he's learning cut the Taylor.

A number of years ago he told me that there was like a kofo that he wasn't learning anything and he heard the story.

He started 5 minutes every day and now he's he's too busy finishing this parishad to do anything else.

How much that how much that and having having had an aversion or I still have an aversion to like have left this and making resolutions and trying to change my life.

For me, that's the only way that worked literally like not trying to change my life 5 minutes and then adding one little thing.

The the beautiful thing about that is that once you have like an anchor, like if you brush your teeth every morning, it's easy when you're brushing your teeth to then add flossing like it's, it's not requiring A lifelong change to add a new thing.

Like you're ready doing one thing, you add a little bit to it and you don't have to change your life to add 1 component to it.

You ready, you know, doing one thing, you add a little more.

Once you have a foundation of an hour, 20 minutes, 5 minutes and you let that grow.

I know for myself when I make a sheer mow the day, I'm never keeping it.

Even a sheer at night is hard for me.

Like once you get home, it's it's day as you ready.

You never know where the day's going to go and you never know where the what the night's happening at night.

It's just a little lately it works a little better, just the house is quieter.

But in the morning it's still your time.

The day hasn't gotten.

You know, I don't turn my phone

on till 10:15 till 10:30.

My phone's off from the night before and by slowly incrementing that a little more, you still control your day.

You still control your brain somewhat your schedule and you don't plan anything till 11:00

till 12:00.

You don't plan anything.

So in in any area of trying to like implement these things Mamish these the smallest things that are done are are really the only things that that last or or are true genuine change anything that happens quickly for me at least doesn't doesn't doesn't persevere as I mean.

All right, this is a very uplifting conversation and if anyone else benefits and makes one more Klataeva from it, whether in their mind or in Palmamish and all all connected, so it's well worth it.

The world's a better place thereof.

Yeah, OK.