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As always Read and Dan isbel known as the Brothers Hunt, where we take a weekly drive to the intersection of country music and the great outdoors.

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Oh all right, I thought you got us pretty second sometimes man, he got booed, you.

Should go second.

So what I'm coming off the dome too.

Yeah, but you have to rhyme with anything when you say the first one true, he booed you.

Yeah, ray man, you're fired right.

Hey, uh we had a bro pod today, another bro pod Scott and Matt Thomas of Parmally who like car If you didn't go ahead, yeah, you didn't know it.

Their cousin is the bass player.

And then uh, they picked this guy up that played at the same bar with him back in Carolinas.

Another one of this family too.

There's four of them that are family ish.

And then they picked another.

Guy that's cool man, that's cool, cool assum do it together.

They're great dudes, great stories.

Yeah.

Man, just been a staple in in country music and in Nashville for a long time now, just continually putting out songs that the people love and and going getting to the mountaintop over and.

Over and sound.

They talk so cool too.

I know, it's like a.

Carolina Their eyes are exactly the same.

And thenst Crystal bluestylu Cristi Blue.

Yeah, I got a Crystie Blue.

I think that's a girl I went to a high school with what was the last name, Cristy Blue Blue.

No way, No, I'm just I mean, I.

Did hear about a girl that the window high Schoolmam, Crystal chandelier.

That's such a lie, is it.

Yes, you were the one that told me that Crystal Chance chandelier.

It was chan I think that's like it was just Chandler.

Was Aunt Caro somebody Aunt Carrol knew it was like a crystal chandelier.

These guys are awesome.

Yeah, they're a lot of fun to listen to.

You'll enjoy it.

H something's cooking, know something?

Make it quick?

Thanks, get code right, some make We're already late.

I can't believe I listened to two numbskulls that don't know the word punctuation.

Here we go again.

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Oh was that it great?

Got the approval?

Yeah, I'm with them.

I didn't get their approval.

I know, I'll give you the approval.

I'm I'm thankful for short ones.

Hey, we love y'all.

We're relate to the our code rights.

You're gonna love these guys.

Parmly they're awesome probably probably probably properly properly probably parmally speed speed Speed speed Man.

We got a couple of brothers from another mother another g C P bropod.

This band has five total No.

One singles and more than one point six b B B billion streams.

Toured with Train Kane Brown, Jake Going, Brad Paisley, Walker Hayes, some North Carolina boys going and raise Up.

We got Scott and Matt Parmally Boys Boys coming in with the cameo pants looking good.

Time of the year where Carolina, Uh, Eastern Carolina, near Greenville.

Our little town is called Robertsonville, North Carolina.

Three miles from parmer Lee, North Carolina.

The town that we named the band.

After are y'all.

Are y'all Tar Hills fans.

We're pirates man.

We went to East Carolina.

I know it's not the same thing, and it's cool.

Everybody, you know, half.

The families, uh tar Hills have families like Duke.

And then we kind of grew up in Sea State actually uh yeah, and our household was was State fans.

So we were just raised to pull against Carolina.

I love where that came from.

I kind of I kind of like like meeting folks that, like, especially from Tennessee and stuff like that.

They're like everybody's Tennessee fan.

Everybody Tennessee.

But like when somebody's like I'm a Vandy fan or like I'm a Memphis fan, I'm like, okay, get with that.

I'm an Austin p fan.

Okay, get with it.

Keep dreaming.

Maybe one day, uh the church Clish school.

Let's go pee, I don't know that was freed hardman.

You're right.

I'm just trying to think about small schools in Weston, see that I remember.

I don't know any Austin p fans.

Yeah, let's go.

Thanks for hanging out man here.

Yeah, having y'all.

Uh you said you're thirteen months apart.

Yeah, yeah, Irish twins, I guess got the Yes, got's the older brother.

Older and wiser.

Yeah, yeah, I could tell you ever.

Have you ever punched each other in the face.

I don't think had I punched down on the face.

I heard twice actually said you don't want to do it, dad, damn.

The only one I told him before he punched me.

I said, you realize I could kill you one punch and he said, yes, man, I do.

He's like, please, don't punch me in the face.

I mean this was like this is after the first time I punched him, after he punched me one time I grabbed him, held him down.

It was like my fists as big as your head.

I was like please and saw okay, man, I'll let him up.

And I said, you can't believe he pushed me.

And about that time and I saw black on the second into it yeah, and then by the time it was like a flash of black and I turned around and I was gonna kill him, and I heard him down the state.

There's just yeah, he told on mom.

One got in trouble.

I had a little other little brother.

I forgot what they're doing.

They were being aggravating, so I thought you were say I forgot his name.

I forgot.

They were just being aggravating.

So I threw him in the closet real quick, shut the door.

And I'm like, I'm like twelve years older than him, So I say, a little bro dang yeah, and then you know he's yelling and screaming, so I let him out.

Well, I just sat on the couch and didn't even think anything of it.

Well, all of a sudden he took a little stool and just ran towards me, and.

He just caught me just right up the chair.

It was like I had to get his did little one of two stitches and stuff.

He was upset.

After that.

I was like, you got me.

It was okay, yeah, yeah, that's all right.

Yeah.

I remember one time we were we were playing.

I was playing on the trampoline with a buddy of mine and uh, we were just kind of pushing each other.

And I was probably what eight ten, maybe a little bit older, twelve something like that.

I can't remember.

And uh Dan was always white.

He was lurking somewhere, you know, he's always making sit and we were playing.

It got a little rough, and this dude was a couple of years older than me.

And I don't know if he punched me or kicked me.

Let me just pass the story to me.

I was in the kitchen eating a banana.

I don't know why I remember this.

I was eating a banana and I was looking out the window at them jumping, and like they were just jumping like this, and all of a sudden, bro, I was.

I didn't grow till junior n he was time I was.

I was like four to seven as a freshman, I was.

I was always small, like little reed and IW this.

Older neighbor jump and just kick him straight in the name ignores me, I mean, like in the.

Jean down, like knockout kidding.

And I don't remember.

I seriously don't remember getting from the banana to the trampoline.

All I know is I was eating that banana and the next thing I knew I was I was on him with my arm back, and I was like this right here, and I had him down and I was just about to let it go, and reizel Heim went, no, that's good about scared?

Yeah, Rick, sample you got so many stories.

I'm sure y'all did too.

Yeahs sit here all day?

Yeah for sure.

All right, let's do this here, I'll get it going.

Sorry, we do a little thing, Scott Man, we do a little thing.

Hey, ray, can I get some more in my head than my phonies?

So argument sir.

Knocked out already in her die, I'm gonna use that he w w side of the head man, I'm gonna say he's dropped the chair.

Sorry, I even't got to get a part of it.

That's still off.

What you're mad?

Just tell us what it is?

What you're mad at?

Is it your in lost kids, my big boss man with your neighbors cat.

Just tell us what you mad.

You're taking a little liberty on those runs, and you're just trying to spice it up a little.

Definitely been hamboning.

I think he's getting bored with the regular melody.

You gotta do the you got the stink face, Chris Brown, What you're mad?

I'm like.

Trying to follow it around.

Oh man, we do think called what you mad at?

Where you go?

First?

He already knows subtitles?

Why does why?

Why do women need subtitles every time you watch a show?

Dude?

My wife loves the subtitles on and if the subtitles are on saying women.

Yeah, I thought it was.

I didn't watch subtitles until I got married.

Me neither.

And now if the subtitles are wrong, all I do is read the dang titles and I ain't watching nothing.

I was like, we gotta cut them off.

Last night, Shine was.

Like, can you still hear good enough to not have subtitles?

What?

It depends?

Honestly, if the kids are in bed, obviously it makes a little more sense.

But I have quote unquote watched entire shows with my wife.

But all I do is just read the subtitles and I don't watch nothing.

Yep, that made me mad.

That's not most times they get the subtitles wrong.

Sometimes they get this.

They be getting the subtitles wrong.

Sure, So last night I was like, hey, bake, we Killy's subtitles.

She's like, you know, I need them?

And I was like, why My ears are worse than yours.

And she's like, I can't understand why they're saying.

And then I ask you and you're like, huh, because you can't hear me.

I was like, well, we're cutting him off for a minute, and we cut him.

I think if you just cut him off and just try it, you can.

You can listen if you want to.

Well you can't do is listen and watch some stuff on your phone.

That's where she gets in the trouble.

Oh yeah, because she likes to you know, Facebook, in the middle of the show.

That's when you gotta do the the old uh, the old previous episode rundown, Like me and Jordan do I just go through?

She's like, I don't remember what happened last episode.

So I go to the last episode and I just fast fast forward through it and then I narrate the whole thing.

I'm like, so this guy got mad at him because he stole the thing off the truck.

And found the body in the water.

He cried about it.

Yes, something Now, So why is it when your wife will, your significant other is done with her phone, you have to be done with yours, and it's time to go preach, preach you can't watching the show.

We're not watching TV anymore.

It's it it's light soft light cell phones off.

Wait wait, wait wait, I wouldn't.

Yeah, and she could be on her phone for two hours and then and then you two.

And she puts it down.

She look, oh, you do tangent now.

But that's what I'm not talking about.

By the way, I don't know if that's my only tangent.

Oh are you mad anything?

I'm not really mad, but I just every time I go to the A T and T store, I know it's never gonna work out, and I'm always I'm never like, your phone is a piece of trash, though, dude, and I went to get one yesterday and it's I've never walked into an AT and T store and then the same visit walked out with a new phone.

It's always like, oh it's out, well, yeah I got to order it, or or we don't have yeah it's or it's like you're not an authorized member of the on the phone thing, so we have to have your wife's driver's license.

I was like, oh, well, can she send a picture?

And they're like, no, we have to have the physical license.

And I pulled I did the same thing yesterday.

I pulled in.

I'll tell this.

I pulled in and yeah, she was like, we need your You're not authorized to make changes to the account, so we need your Nancy's license.

I was like, can I know I need a physically address.

I was okay, and then it was like, can we call her?

And she's like, yeah, we called her.

She was like, do you see a permission?

She walked through it, she couldn't find it.

And after like thirty minutes, I was like, I'm out.

I'm out.

I can't.

I can't sit here any longer.

But a cool thing did happen.

Well.

I was as I was going to the AT and T store in spring Hill.

We're sitting in traffic.

It's like four o'clock and uh.

And I'm sitting there and I'm just like looking at this truck in front of me, just kind of driving nonchalantly, not thinking about anything.

And I see this dude's back window go and it rolls down and I'm looking at him, and about that time, I see him raise his phone up like this in the back window and it's the God's Country logo really on the phone, and I was I was like, huh, and he was literally listening to the podcast from yesterday and he was giving me.

I was like, damn, man, that's kind of famous for a second spring Hill famous little.

That's it.

He ended up.

His name is Josh McClinton.

He's a he's actually a musician, and he was listening to us shout out, thanks for listening and thanks for recognizing me in my truck, which is yeah, that's a little weird.

Uh So, yeah, that's I'm not really mad.

You mad anything, you glad at anything.

I wouldn't say I'm so mad at anything this morning.

I was actually even coming here looking at all the big bucks.

I'm so happy that the fall is here and that rifles season or hunting season, dear seasons around the course.

I'm just like, it's the fault.

I can't be mad at anything I feel.

I don't know what that is when I'm just so happy.

So summer the worst, some of the heats the worst it is.

I just it's okay, you know, yeah, but this this is just good.

So I feel that.

Man.

I mean, I tryed to get mad at don't sweat the small stuff, and I can't lie this morning.

No, this is you're supposed to sweat.

I get it in five minute time this morning.

So you know, we have crazy alarms because we're on the road all the time.

And you know, this morning, I got up earlier than I usually do, so I step my alarm for like six you.

Had to get ready for the podcast.

Yeah, and along when I was six, and I was like, I'm gonna snooze because I know I have at least ten to fifteen minutes.

But the alarm sounds on the snooze.

If you don't go in and dictate which alarm sound is going to be on the alarm for the time, you might get the fire truck crazy.

Really, you know, the worst sounding alarms.

And I got mindset.

We're like easy going.

It's like, gently wake up, go on stuff in this thing this morning?

Just now.

Yeah, why does that matter?

It definitely does matter.

Bro.

If you got that alarm, If you're waking up to that alarm every morning, you are psychopath.

It's bus I don't know who it was on our tour bus the other morning it went off twice.

It's got to start bad.

I agree, agree, it's got to piss you off immediately.

So we used to be laggers, and it seems like, I worked with a dad in morning farm and logging, so we always had the six o'clock wake up, but everything had that annoying sound.

Then we got it through the phone stuff, and then you got to change.

I've never been back to that annoying sounds ever.

I'm not going back read uh yeah, the big red numbers.

Yeah.

Yeah, you've been out till three in the morning.

Yeah.

Six.

So you grew up and green what was your what's your daddy do uh?

Logging?

Logging?

Yeah?

Three generations, So my granddad started, then my dad did it, and then I went to community college for about a year and then I said I'm gonna go work with my dad and granddad and.

Did did y'all own a meal?

Did you?

Did you know?

Actual loggers?

We had?

Uh?

So you'all are out yaw skidders, log trucks the whole.

Yeah, and this seems pretty dangerous, man, they do it.

We got some ground that they've been logging the last six years and we're watching them do it.

Cut eight hundred acres of timber off.

Well, we're we're eastern North Carolina.

We're in the you know, dismal swamp, so it's all flat land.

Now up here where the hills.

Are, yes, a little bit, there's a whole lot more danger to you're dealing with cables and rudh size and things like that.

What was the at what age did you cut your first tree down?

How old were you?

I would say, riding uh.

In the sheer with daddy back in the day probably tell us what that is.

She's a cut Before they had the cut machine, that was one that was kind of like it's the scissors.

It actually cut the tree like a big pair of scissors, a sheercutter.

It was chainsaws first, and then they had the sheer color.

Then they had the rotating head.

When you seen the circular head.

That grabs it, so the sheer.

Yeah, our dad, I remember, you're right.

I went to the job, drove us around and he hit it.

He said hit this button and hit that button, and that was pretty cool.

So it literally just scissors the tree.

It was a massive.

When I say, yeah, how big could the tree?

I mean I think anything.

Maybe twenty four would be the biggest.

Probably anything after that you cut with the soft big.

But what happened was I think they what you'd have to do is it would compress the butter the wood so much that they would have to solve you always.

Cut you a wasting you know, was compressed.

They would push it in then they it was a modern Then it went away like that saw head.

It was the real deal.

When the Feller Buncher came in, that was a whole how much is one of the machines?

How much is one of the things that like because everybody's seen the video that thing linging around order and yeah there four three hundred range it got to be half of me.

I know.

It was a big deal to my grand dad.

He had to get you know, they made him go to the rotator that made him basically because you couldn't share anymore, you know, they didn't want the tree shared.

But he had to borrow.

I don't know how much you put down, but he had to borrow one hundred thousand and like, you know, early nineties, which was a lot of something some money to get that new cutting machine.

Wow.

Yeah, and it's the one that does the thing and cuts and then it strips it down.

There half of me and tracks and some of them are you know, we never had one of those.

We just had the uh Feller Buncher on the TI.

It's a big fat tires with the one head that would go and you cut a tree and grab it and pick up.

And take the tree up.

It's getting a sketchy Ever had a sketchy situation?

Yeah, yeah, I dropped a massive oak tree on top of that thing.

I was just learning how to use a cut machine and we were doing and I saw it's like this.

There was one log on it, but it had a big canopy and and I got behind it and it made one cut.

And you just got to know what you're doing.

And I wanted to even in the machine.

Yeah, because if you.

Don't cut it all the way through that things it's strong, but it's only so strong.

And yeah, it went.

I cut it and I and I.

Was tilting it so it would shoot it forward, you know, just throwing back that way.

And I looked at it and coming back and then.

It smashed a cab and or you know, it could have easily trapped me inside the machine where I couldn't get out because of the bushes, and something could have caught a fire.

You know, that's the danger.

Like that should have would have cut a kind of thing.

Is is.

You know one time we it's dangerous, now keep going.

One time went I mean, one time we had a.

Truck that was a law driver that was having some problems with his brakes locking up on his truck, and we had a load and we were trying to just get him down the roads.

We could park over in this other parking lot so he could get the people to come work on it.

And uh, we kind of got him going, and what was happening was a battery was dying.

The air was running out of the breaks, and it.

Was all you know, and he's got a full load of logs and right when he goes over the railroad.

Truck pulling him, we had a track to pull on him and it just does.

Brakes locked up, I mean, and then the battery.

Yeah, they were starting to It was just everything that could go wrong with when we say.

We stopped on the railroad, it couldn't have stopped any worse.

I mean, we covered the whole railroad with an eighteen.

We had to.

We were freaking out.

I was like, we don't need caicket.

I was like, the hell with the ticket car we call and everybody have to stop the train.

So we had trying to train.

Police down there Luckily we didn't get a ticket, but he we knew the guy, the police officer.

He was like, and just move the truck.

Yeah, And it all goes back to one of my favorite sayings I've ever had, my dad saying, especially like a long one.

It just just goes throughout life.

No move is better than a bad move.

It would have been better off to let it sit there.

Try to figure out absolutely correct, it is right, absolutely correct.

I always remember that no move is better than a bad movie.

Ye, to just wait before you make a move.

You're always in the panic, you always and then we're.

Broke, you know, and everything's about you know, if you you got a ticket, that was that was going to put you you know, your credit cards got verse once you do it, afford to fix the truck was already broke down, afford a ticket on top of the truck.

So it was just but that goes to show you all that could have cost way more if a train would have hit it.

Yeah, millions of dollars over over a couple hundred five hundreds.

So that's what you got to think about it.

You need you need to tattoo that on the inside of your well.

It kind of it kind of.

Goes into this story I'm about to tell he gets wild if it's panicky fast time there.

Yeah, well we do too, but we've learned through all these situations.

Same.

Yeah, I love I love running a chainsaw.

Love he always no doubt.

I cannot believe I ain't cut something off seriously, Like but uh, there was one time, man, we the church I was going to when all this tornadoes hit more, Oklahoma and that kind of that kind of area.

It was back in like I think like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, my church sent a team up there, and uh, we went up and and we're kind of cleaning up and doing some stuff.

And and when we got there, they were like, who knows how to run a chainsaw?

So I was the only one.

I was proud of it too, Yeah, and I was there's a bunch of men there, but I was like I got this, and they were like, all you're the chainsaw guy.

And so there all these mangled trees and all the property.

So I spent I spent three or four days chainsawn trees and like I mean like cutting, you know, cutting the slanting them over and letting them fall in the right spot.

So they kind of just let me go.

We got to this one property and they were like, they were like, cut the trees, and I was like all right.

So then they kind of like pointed in this one area.

So I was cutting on my cut all the trees, and there was this huge, beautiful oak tree in the front of the yard.

Nothing.

It wasn't messed up for nothing.

And I was like, you said, cut the trees, right, and he was like, yep, cut the trees.

And I was like, all right, it's a son.

I start going off on this thing.

And I'm the guy, the guy that's kind of like managing the whole thing.

He's he's off doing something and son, I'm sawing this.

I'm getting, you know, cutting the slants and moving around, and about that time, it starts tilting and I'm like hey, hey, hey.

I was like, I need some help.

So we throw a rope around it and they get some guys start to pulling it on this side, and I'm cutting into it, and I mean as soon as that thing starts to tip, this guy comes around and goes, what are you doing?

And this thing was and hits the ground and I was like what He was like, that's the one thing that didn't get messed up on their whole property that they wanted to keep was.

The one hundred year old old dream in the front yards.

Dude, I didn't know.

I've never heard this, and I was like, I was still like, ye, this old dream.

Yeah.

He was like, this is the one drill this whole property you're not supposed to cut.

So I cut down the one thing that didn't get hit by the tornado on the So I should have asked, that's the dangerous word.

Any hurricane tied up trees, that's where yeah, spring lead.

Yeah, that's that's hard.

I'll never forget.

And this is why this goes back to your daddy saying why you need to do it.

One time, we were building a box line down in the in the bottom we were running out of and I got the scar to show this.

We took a.

Generator and we're and a bunch of two of fours and of skill saw.

We're down there running it and Read is insanely good at stuff, freaky auty about like bees.

Man.

He can't like you chilled out now or something.

I don't care.

So he got kids.

Man.

Man, We're sitting there and.

I think there was like a ladybug on the thing he was cutting.

Lady but it was a hornet.

I thought you, I thought you freaked out over a lady book first, Now as a hornet.

Okay.

So I see, I'm on the platform, he's cutting boards.

I'm telling him what like fourteen inches.

He'll cut it two by four fifteen inches and hand.

It to me.

And then I nailed it.

We're building this thing, right, And I look down and see a wasp or a hornet or something on the end of the plywood that he's cutting at.

He's going to it, and I was like, this ain't gonna be good.

He gets just about to it, it flies that he sees.

He didn't see it until it flew up, and when he did, he goes with the skill saw swings it's the hornet, blows it into a million pieces and goes down and it just catches in his jeans like and I was like, well, we're three miles down the middle of nowhere.

I don't know how we're gonna get He just cut his I mean I saw blood immediate, but luckily he had those holy artist jeans on, you know, and then.

You know, you know, definitely.

Air Apostle American caught the threads enough to slow it down.

Lock the bloody eat his knee.

I did, I have a have about an inch and a half scar right there, and I did.

I went, I went wow.

That's part of it was pretty impressive because the be was like, you know, my knee was almost like that it is.

It was okay, it's just right with it.

Okay.

Yeah.

We FaceTime my brother in law who's an okay doctor.

He's not really that great, the worst doctor.

He's a great, great brother.

He's the best brother in law.

Terrible doctor, terrible mom.

But he said it was cool, Jason, we love we love you, Jason.

Everything's cool.

We're like, well, oh, like I broke this finger, see how it is.

So the day I did that, I got facetimed and he was like, oh, yeah, it's not supposed to look like that.

I was like, you know, dude, I know it's supposed to I'm not asking what it's supposed to look like.

What am I supposed to do?

Now?

He's like, I go seeing Ortho.

It'll be fine.

It's always like take a couple of advil.

It's never it's like god, hele it.

In time anyway.

Yeah, so y'all kind of been y'all kind of been outside.

Y'all were outside your whole childhood lot.

Yeah, Yeah, we worked.

And uh well, my mom remarried when we were young, and my stepdad's family of farmers, So when we were cattle or crop tobacco, cotten peanuts.

So when we were you know, twelve thirteen, that was our first job working in tobacco, uh, cucumbers or whatever.

We always so we had the log inside of the family and then we had the farmer size and we grew up.

Inside.

Because you could you break tobacco.

I don't know if you know what that is.

That's the leaves off the tobacco.

Yeah, harvesting and tobacco.

Yeah, terrible job hanging it up in the barn.

Yeah.

Breaking it was so bad because it's it's the middle of the summer.

You're out there and the bottom legs are in the sand, and when you're breaking those you got to put them up this conveyor and the sand and the water bring me just the worst gum all over you.

You know, are you talking about tobacco?

Did you ever get like that sickness that you Oh?

I did.

I used to get tobacco poison, which is like poison ivy.

So you just be wrapped up and basically poison.

Yeah, it sounds awful.

Yeah, it was bad.

It's just like poison ivy, just like poss basically poison ivy.

Is it from the toxins in the in the tobacco.

It's like the gum.

Okay, I guess, I mean because that stuff is real, like gummy, I her to mess you up.

Yeah, but nothing, I'll be honest with you.

There's nothing that smells better than a fully cured tobacco barn when it's.

This time of year.

Yeah, oh my god, the peanuts and tobacco kind of yet the same time.

That's always like that's always like a start of hunting season two.

Like you know, those born, those born just go in that this smelled.

That's it.

We just I mean you drive by and you just see that smoke coming at the top of them.

You know, it's you know, what's going on around there.

So did y'all did y'all grow up hunting?

Did you grow up fishing?

Yep?

Did you?

Yeah?

A lot?

Like well, like again, my grandmother on my dad's side, she loved to fish, so we go surf fishing with her down at the coast, come on and then outer bas is humble.

Yeah, so we go down to the beach, drive the old f one fifty down there and get right on the sand and she stay out all day long?

Is that like, did y'all were y'all south of like Hatteras and all and all that.

Yeah, like that in those areas down and those those where you could actually drive on the beach, you know, just miles and miles of ocean.

So you just drive out on the beach and fish off of some fish.

Yeah, what would you catch?

Uh, you know, croakers, blue fish, to catch, blue flounder, I mean whatever was biting out there.

Usually did she like to eat it or she just like she frightens and fish now, So she kind of got I got the fishing boat from her.

But then our stepdad his family were hunters, so.

Yes, I kind of got the deer hunting, and you know, we got as much turkey hunting toil later, but deer hunting from that side of the family.

And they had land to hunt also, you know how it is when you with your kid you have you know, yeah, private land to hunt.

You don't know, how good you got to And I didn't realize that.

And then the same thing meeting some of our high school buddies later that they on land their parents on you know, on farms, and you got to hunt, and you're like, we got it, made.

No doubt all I say, all our fish eaters.

So I love this debate for shwater fish or saltwater fish.

M hmm, I mean, just eat it.

Just eat salt water.

Probably because I'm team saltwater salt water.

I mean that, don't get me wrong.

I love catfish.

I'll eat brim, I'll eat you know, that's a big plate of fring.

Maybe I'm not maybe I'm not salt so whatever.

You're like, oh, this is great.

We have the river where we where we are from the Runok River.

It's one of the only spots that the striped bass we call them rock come from the bay and they go spawn at this particular river every year.

So I mean that's something that's that's big white fish.

Man.

I like those fish that's half and half you know, come from it's one of little brackish.

We used to catch sauger out of the super cold water, which is basically just like a small our wallet.

Yea cousin of the Walleye're tough to beat.

Man.

We got cold water fishing.

But I got two bags of walleye my freezer right now that that we we charted this.

We were in Cleveland all the day off and I was like, I want to go fishing.

I wonder if I could find somebody to take us out.

Yeah, found really limited, and uh.

So I've got I got about two bags of while I worked about eight hundred dollars.

You get this piece, you get this, you get you.

Because it was three of us and then you know, three guys and then.

Dollars.

It's better to come out with some fish because you're still paying eight hundred dollars either way.

Yeah, you can catch them where you don't.

I'm excited that we're gonna.

We're gonna.

We've we've had it one time and then you know, obviously when we're up in that area and in the Great Lakes area, well, if they're in the restaurant, we'll try it.

Oh yeah, I'm anxious to get home and try it out.

Man.

Man, we've done some when they when they beer batter those, that's that's that's what all Then the walle eyes the beer batter.

It is right.

I'll call you when we cook.

Yeah.

Oh I don't know how to do it.

I know how to eat it.

Yeah, please call me.

He'll call me like, hey man, you and your brother come twelve dollars plays a charge.

You got to pay ten dollars to get in, then twenty.

For the plate.

Twelve hour plate, two hours and it's by O HP.

Man, bring your on, hush puppies.

Fish tell us, uh, tell us about your Alaskan experience, catches Salmon.

Oh yeah, have we been twice?

Yeah, yeah, we went.

I want to go so much.

Only place man at this time of year.

Uh just charter boat again, just a small boat and you're just it's a little nothing to it.

Yeah, it's awesome.

I mean.

And we went because we were doing the show out there.

Hell, they were having concerts during COVID, so we were like.

Yeah, let's coat Alaskan for surely we did.

And we went out and one.

Of the guys that was had us out there promoters, he was like, you know, you guys should take this charter out the King Salmon's in and Silvertown.

We're like okay, and you get like three apiece and it was just awesome.

I mean, you know, pretty nice size ones.

What tackle, what do you throw?

Like just like a rooster, big rooster tail.

Yeah, just you know, just cast it out and he puts you kind of put you on them, and it's pretty pretty basic.

You know, you're gonna get your limit.

But but the cool thing was just how beautiful it is out there.

Start off with you know, you're.

Flying the anchorage and you take it to a three hour drive.

That's what we recommend wheel drive to.

Three hours.

Yeah, ahead for sure, but but the Keen Eye Peninsula, Kenye rivers where it's at.

And uh, I recommend anybody to do it.

And we went back, actually went back the next.

Year on our own and took my brother, my little brother and my uncle and we all went and it was amazing.

And see the same time, I always was under the assumption that you were eating those pink salmon, you know, but they're the ones that got the humps in their backs that they're stressed out.

We call that party fish.

And that's why you said we're gonna party.

Once you get your limit, we'll go party fish.

Things to come up in thousands, and you just cast the line out and you catch them.

You can see them.

Man, it's crazy.

It's yeah, it's unreal.

We got to do that.

And then we charted another boat.

Oh yeah, we went out.

We were in lastchool.

We went out on the bay to go king salmon fishing.

But then you know, obviously don't want to put you on.

So we went and caught uh like they got rock bass or like the black.

Bass, which are prot some of the best fish I've ever eaten.

We came back with a bag of those and got them fil A's and shipped back home.

I mean they are not even the boat cap And I said, what's your favorite?

He's like these black bass, he's rock bass.

And what you see is like, yeah, what you're thinking, you're going to say it is that was a that was a big boat.

And we went out, you know, not a deep sea, but pretty far out.

I'm out on deep set.

You have mountains around you, just far enough.

Yeah, you just see you on.

Both sides of the cliffs, just like this is.

Those rides worth.

You know, everybody's been to Alaska.

They're like, if you love Montana, if Montana and which is Montana is my favorite place I've been?

You know, in the contigual United States whatever.

But like they're like, if you love Alaska, I mean Montana, Alaska is the big brother to Montana.

It's just it's it's that except wilder yea, and I want yeah, man, it's it's a bucket list.

It's bucket list.

That's the way to do it.

To get hit anchor rent your car, and then you go wherever you want to go, you know, keep dying or whereever you're little.

We did a we went to like three different little towns night.

Yeah.

We played oh yeah, when.

We went out there at that at that time, I can't as hard to remember now.

I just remember we were on this We were staying in this little like tiny houses on this guy's property.

Had us a nice property at a helicopter pad.

We had these docks, these docks out by.

The river on the river, you know.

And and so my brother and I were walking out there and you could just see the fish coming just coming coming up, you know, every once and while you see a school of them, and and and the ones the keepers, you know, the silver salmon, and and and.

We have these fly rods over there, and I've got all.

These baits that I got and I'm like, oh man, I'm casting, couldn't catch anything.

And these women come and they're like, you know, probably fifty feet over another dock and they're out there, you know, just giggling casting, they saying they're hooking, and me and my brother just like what's going on, Like we can't look at frustrated, like he can't catch anything.

They're they're loading up, you know.

And finally the dude that owns the place, he came back.

He's like, it's like they're not gonna they don't bite that.

They're not hungry, they're not coming back to feed.

Yeah, he said, they don't bite that.

He said.

What they're doing is they're like they're like sewing the hook through their lip when they come flowing through.

So so many of them, you're just literally just to fly them.

Well, you run the fly out and then when they come through you you pull it and it just and it gets them and it's legal, and wow, you know, we're cooking salmon right on the doc fresh out of the keen eye.

Man, amazing.

If somebody came in right now said hey we can go do that right now, I'll be gone.

Yeah, wife, kid, I'm going out.

Yeah, I figured it out.

Yeah, for sure, you gotta do it as well.

Yeah, that's all that we need to go back.

It's been a couple of years, it's been a few.

I'd love to take my dad to do that.

Man.

I don't know if we get him on the plane.

I find out from his wife actually hooked it up.

So I figured out all the information and and all the yeah, you know, you know, because it's like a one two three things, stay here, stay here, little book we made so this bo right here.

Yeah like that.

Yeah, we got all our all our stuff in there.

I'm going to open a random page is probably gonna be me with something that's a big yeah, big old cat.

That was.

That was some jugging down there.

But those pictures are cool of my my dad.

Nice thanks man.

That's Tennessee dere But like that my dad back in the day, Sparkle.

Jackson looking at the renegame.

Look at JEP.

He's a JEP.

Guys, that's a nineteen o eight or seven really seventy seven or seventy eight?

Yeah, was that c J.

Seven seven or five seven longer?

Yeah, it's got the U shaped dwarf.

Yeah, that's my thing, man, what's the one?

What's the one jeep?

If you could buy any jeep in the world, what would it be, I could buy any jeep in the world.

Yeah, I got four of them, so I got.

You know, I mean, I don't know, man, jeep open the door, got a bunch of.

I'm not a duck.

Well, I think it started out as like a benefit to raise for a kid that had cancer.

Just what it started, Okay, I'm for and then sorry.

I didn't understand it.

And now it's like, I think it's just a little obnoxious.

Man, come on, like, yeah, just not wonder guys.

The jeep wave, Yeah, you know, what's the jew jeep?

Well, supposed to be the victory because back in the World War Two when they won, all the soldiers will come home and really they had the old school you know, Whillies and the victory.

And now the thing is, you know, the older jeep waves last.

So you know, I've got.

You passed.

It's kind of like, so you opened it.

It's rare that I waved anybody, because my jeeps are always old, you know like that.

But but yeah, so if it's old, you know, forties, fifties, wheelies, you gotta wait to them first, or yeah, the oldest seat waves last.

That's cool.

Respect Yeah, it's immediately cooler in my head.

Yeah, that's cool.

It's immediately.

I mean, I've always had a dream of rolling around on my farm with the c.

J five just top off, not he can find you whatever you want.

Pretty it's probably pretty fun.

It's the most amazing thing when you pull that top off, especially during the springtime when it comes off and you get the cruise and it's just it's like riding a motorcycle, and it's a kind of cultural thing.

It's nothing like it, man, talking about like free in your mind.

If you could just take a ride out to the country and then just find you places.

There's new traffic and you just cruise.

Man, it's not just trace or something.

Yes, that's gonna say right next to it.

And I had a motorcycle, but my wife is like, kids got to go the way to.

Roll because you're just cruising.

You're not money fast.

We did it during the pandemic and it was like a life saver.

It's like we'd say, what do we call it.

We're gonna ride around a circle?

I don't know.

We just do it like once a day just to get out.

Yeah, drive around the Nacha's come around.

It's just come back like, oh this is great.

Yeah, it's weird.

There's some therapeutic stuff going on there.

Man.

When when I met when I met Jordan, she was she was She had a two door Wrangler and we do the same thing.

I had a little, you know, little parking shed that I parked my stuff under and we installed a winch up there, so she drive on her.

We hook the top up and hold it up.

We pulled the doors off and go ride on Sundays and man, just turn some music up and some Ali Jackson and roll, you know.

And that was my first car, was eighty six C J Loreto.

I've had I've had them pretty much ever since.

So even when I was a kid, you know, like that experience is taking the top off for the summer, and that was just a thing and it's always been a thing every year.

Interesting that makes me want to buy one real bad.

One.

What's the I mean?

I mean, obviously the I want something I can work on though the new stuff.

If you can work on it, then you're ahead of the game if you can do it, because finding somebody to work on something old is damn near impossible, and nobody wants to do it.

And if you find you might find an old head that that all they want to do is work on old stuff.

They don't want to do something with computers.

Yeah, and you know around here it's hard.

I ain't gonna lie.

I got someboddies that work on stuff, but they're they're on big shops and it's hard for them to focus on, you know, specifically the old stuff because it does take time and it's a little different.

Didn't your dad have one Jordan, that blue one or something?

Yeah, he has the orange one in the black beautiful and I mean, like what part of towns?

Then?

I he's in Kentucky really, but he's like this c J seven, this orange one man speaking span.

He's put a bunch of time into It's beautiful on the inside, everything's refurbished and all that.

But he's out there bailling hay with it.

He's he's like rolling the little thing that the haybells and yeah he uh oh yeah.

If you ever, if you want to get one, hit me up.

I can.

I can help you guide you along the right path.

I mean not to say that I haven't spent too much money on the past too.

I've got, yeah, I've got you know, I knew quite a bit about him.

The trouble it was a good buy or not.

The trouble is, I got like fifty kids, and I don't know how you pack them in, and to be.

Honest with you throw them in the back seat.

I guess that's probably what y'all did when y'all were riding.

Now, yeah, man, one those sea belts.

Man.

We actually one jeep that I have when we first started this band.

It was right when we started the band, which.

We should probably talk about the band.

It was funny because I just got this jeep and I was excited and we didn't have We had used berries, like exper what was it explored at the old school Ford Explorer old O one and he was getting something fixed and I was like, I just got my jeep.

I'll drive to the gig.

I pulled a U how so it was that's four and in the U haul and that was pretty tough.

That was a bad ride.

Man.

Where'd you'll go to?

Do?

You may to Raleigh?

Play some fraternity in Raleigh for Green which the hour and a half away, you know, and I'll.

Never get pulling up.

I have a jeep just us four pulling you haul and was sitting back.

I'm just wanting to prove that I could do it.

You know, I just loved it so much.

I just wanted to drive it to the gig and uh, never did that again.

But I still have that jeep, still had I have it.

Yeah, it's really cool.

That's awesome.

Yeah, so who, uh, who give us give us a little rundown, a little you know, a little rundown of of the journey to Nashville.

That's a long rundown.

You know, we didn't we didn't do the Nashville thing.

We didn't do the Broadway thing.

We were we didn't know.

Yeah, we didn't know anything.

We didn't know told us that you could come to Nashville to go to Belmont.

Nobody told us you could write songs for a living, or there was people that can help you or teach you do anything.

We were just didn't know what a publishing deal was.

We didn't know there was actual song right.

We thought that you just got in the barn and parmally and stuff would just come to you.

Yeah, which was because you didn't have any structure other than you know, playing a cover song for sure.

Anyway.

Yeah, so we you know, we started playing with my dad when we were you know, young teenagers.

He taught us and then we started playing in his band with him, and and so he was banning it.

He wasn't just a hobby he was with they playing pay gigs.

He just playing covered stuffs on the weekend, but he was logging during the week and then he had the band.

And he had always been the kind of the guy in the they in the in the area there and always had a band and he was good.

He was like, uh, Greg Almond meets Bob Seeger and meets Dope.

So that was the three that was our three stables.

It was for us, it was Almen Brothers, Devil McClinton, uh Skinner, and then a lot of like R and B and soul Johnny Taylor, uh, you know, Marvin Gaye.

That kind of stuff was it's, you know, Southern soul music.

So we grew up in that we're playing in his band with him, kind of took that into.

We just were like kind of get a little bit older, a little bit older years.

Yeah, we were like, we need to play something those are strong roots.

Thought is untouchable.

He is up there.

We used to play probably ten of his songs when we played with my dad.

And our friends thought that was my dad's music really because we played so much devilm Clinton.

His originals.

But it wasn't.

I did want of your wedding.

I did uh pick it up, dude, every time I rolled down.

We did that at jam Jam and that guy jams.

So we learned melody's and stuff from those guys, and harmony and you know, how to play a lot of guitar and stuff.

But but we were we decided we're.

Like, man, we gotta we got to do our own thing, and.

So we started, uh we Barry is our cousin.

He was.

He was a drummer.

We needed a bass player short and short.

He was a drummer, so that now we do.

We auditioned one bass player in the town of Greenville something bass players and then we were like, Barry, you need to play bass.

He was like all right, and really and then we want and then we had to go find uh we wanted to We wanted a keyboard and guitar player if anybody could do both, sure, and we found Josh uh.

He played at the same bar that we did.

Yeah, so local boar, you know, the hometown, the college bar.

So if we can get this guy and he can sing and he can play guitar, threat, Yeah we got it all.

And uh so we started and we went out to Parma Lee and we had this barn about half the size of this room that we rented for fifty bucks a month and we rehearsed out there as much as possible, fifty bucks a month, two.

Times a week.

I get off work at six o'clock.

We'd meet there around seven and go from seven to eleven.

That was late enough because we were making so much noise.

I'm talking about full stacks, double stack amps.

Being here.

What was running was a Marshall store.

Yeah, J had j CM actually had a j C nine hundred through four to twelve, and then I went on and ended up having.

A sal Donald hot rod.

It was acoustic cabinet.

Yeah.

It was awesome.

Man.

It was loud and my ears ring this day.

At the time though, you think that's what you need.

And then you get into the gig and you see these guys playing little brown outs five five what brown outs running to a mic and then they've got the stacks up there for show.

It's the craziest thing.

We did what we called the Menu venues and you know, the wild Wings and what would be the ten roofs you know, oh yeah, and.

We brought everything, you.

Know.

That was our whole Oh yeah, yeah, we.

Did all that and then you know, played around and I just got tired of drunk people asking me to play Brown Eye Girl.

Yeah.

I was like, that ain't the band we are.

And I was like, I told you guys, like.

What are we doing?

Are we gonna we're gonna keep playing everybody else's music?

Are We're going to start doing our own thing and focusing on our own thing that is?

And so we do, and we made.

A pact over this fire barrel out in front of the barn, and Parma League were like, all right.

That was I think.

We started writing.

We had we had a couple of songs that we that we had written that that kind of got us, you know, got us a little tension that people can tell like that.

And then we found this manager out in Raleigh.

He kind of like he said, you guys need to be writing like this, doing this anyway, It was the whole.

Point of the kind of said you should go here to write, you should write in Nashville, and we're like, really, they're like, you should go here write with other people.

And we were like, oh, okay, that's the thing.

Really didn't know.

We were just in a This was like two thousand and one, two thousand and two, and we said, all right, we're gonna call the band Parma Lee, and we're gonna we're gonna do our own thing and go from making six hundred dollars a gig when you bring your pa and you play for three or four.

Hours and they go to making one hundred or zero whatever.

You didn't and got credit cards lined up, went to work and just worked all week and working in logging woods.

Barry was doing furniture repo with his dad's business.

Josh was doing the constructions, and I was still logging.

We were logging, you know, and it was like, uh so we were just trying to get a record deal, and you know, things would happen, and we got this attention of this one producer and we went to New York and he was excited and and we did an album up there.

And we paid for the album, so we didn't have record.

You know, we didn't have anybody.

We cars buddy, my buddy Barro borrowed some money from my buddy and stuff like that, so that was great.

We did all our albums that way.

Yeah, we had one three oh yeah to help us out, and you know, it was but it was it was always looking for trying to figure out how to make that next move and.

That my step.

It's hard when you don't know what that step is.

You know, you're just playing music, you're writing music.

And then even the switch from like you're not a cover band anymore is a tough switch.

That's the biggest in a local mar market for sure, because they know you kill Space Cowboy.

You know, they're like, what is this stuff we've never heard of?

Give us Space Cowboy and you're like, well.

We're trying to make the switch.

You have to do half and half.

That's what we started doing this we did.

You know, we get a little ep out and then we start opening up for the national bands that would come through, so you wouldn't have to do a ninety minute sit.

You did a you know, thirty minute set whatever.

But it also kind of like not knowing the next step and not knowing what to do and having somebody sitting there holding your hand telling you what to do also leads to some uniqueness in what you do too, right, And yeah, I'd say that what is it?

Just not knowing helped because I'm sitting here now.

We wouldn't let somebody do what we did.

I'm like, oh, no, that's not how you do it.

Sure we did, Yeah, yeah, I got you.

You're gonna get right in here and write some songs of these.

But you're right that not knowing was the crazy part or the magical thing.

We really didn't know.

I just did it.

If somebody had a suggestion, we would follow that.

Like if somebody thought somebody said, you guys should work with this producer, we would figure out how to go work with them, whether it's put it on credit cards, and ultimately, if that didn't lead to something down the road, it kind of did lead to every little thing we did.

By following that positivity, not the negativity.

We would just take criticism constructively and listen to a couple of people and they were supply and it was baby steps.

But the thing was we showed up and we kept working just folded.

We were just we would just.

Keep trying and then you two steps forward and then this.

It was just like this, this, this and this.

But eventually I tell the story every night at the show.

But like we were doing this was like two thousand and six, we've been you know, so we've been five years like really doing the Parmerly thing.

We had this album out and kind of guys telling us we need to be in this rock direction, this active rock direction, and nobody would silence because it wasn't We couldn't fit that bill.

We couldn't do what those bands were doing in the early two thousands.

We just had our own thing.

We were still searching and we had all kinds of songs before that, just random just trying to find it, you know.

Yeah, But we played the showcase or the show in Charlotte and this A and R guy from Atlantic by name Kim Stevens was coming to the show.

We heard and that was it.

We were like, record god, that was the biggest deal on earth.

Because like I always said, if we ever heard that and in turns that worked that Sony's cousin was gonna come through the show, we'd flown them out on credit.

Yeah music, Well, I know my cousin is.

Cousin like any That's how far out we were far out of reached with everything.

But anyway, he came to the show.

We had him at you know, dinner before the show, talked to him and you know, did everything we could, had girls around play, you know, did a great job with our best songs, and I, you know it, went up to him at the end of the night and I know, you know, we weren't going to sign us.

That was kind of like I figured that out.

Time to show started and we didn't have the songs either.

We did, we didn't, And I went up to him.

I said, hey, Kim, if you sign us tomorrow, what's the first thing you'd have is to He said, that's easy.

I'd have you guys go down Atlanta to work with this guy named Rick Rick Byatto and I said, cool man, thank you for coming, appreciate you being here.

And never saw him again.

I've talked to him about he passed this year.

It was the soul but uh, you better believe I was looking at Rick the next day.

I don't know who he was.

We got in touch with him.

So Barry the Bass with Barry based cousin and bass players just call said, we're going to Atlanta.

We're gonna just meet this guy.

And see that's what we did.

We're gonna rent a car and we're gonna go.

We're gonna go meet this guy and record two or three songs.

Again, how are we gonna pay for it?

I don't know.

We'll figure it out.

And we don't even know what demos costs.

We don't know anything.

We just know we're going.

So he so call him up and we had we had like four songs we wanted to record one t we hadn't finished.

And we took him in the studio play what we had.

We didn't know anything about Rick.

This was two thousand and six or whatever.

Yeah, and and and so he's like, cool, come on back eleven grand will come record, cut all these songs.

And we'll finish this next one the studio.

So we did.

We went back, cut it, cut them, finished that one song.

You wrote him a check that we had barred from a buddy of IRUs that was kind of on, you know, working with us, kind of you know it won't happen, but this was like the last straw.

And it would have been for you know, the deal.

And so we wrote him a check for eleven grand.

You got home, man.

We're excited about About three days later, get a call from Rick.

He's like, yeah, give me eleven thousand dollars that check back.

Here's the thing.

One of those songs was Carolina.

We wrote Carolina with him and finished it in that studio.

It is Carolina.

So I knew like we had something.

Song was That was the first time I'd ever heard that sound that we have been looking for for you know, five six years prime.

We had the song, we had the sound, we had what we had us.

Yeah, so you have to come up with that eleven grand.

Yeah, and guess where I got it from?

Logging?

No, my mama really she she loan was eleven thousand dollars second more against her house second morning, whatever the line of credit.

The second morning, she said, I'll get it out.

I believe that.

Yeah.

Yeah, well she.

Never but she never heard the songs before that.

She never asked to hear.

She just didn't have to believed.

Yeah.

Yeah, And I was like, and I tell the story every time now.

So, so mama got a new car, she got a house paid off, she's retired now.

She didn't hesitate.

That's all she owned.

Her whole life is that little house and she she.

And and for all the songwriters or you know, you got old songs and new songs, you always want what's new.

That was in two thousand and seven.

Carolina didn't come out till twenty twelve, and it went number one in twenty thirteen.

So that song was that old.

That song was on.

US twenty fourteen is when it.

It went number one in December twenty thirteen.

So honestly, you wrote it in two thousand and seven, seven years oh, after.

Grinding and then you know, before he got shot.

You know, so we were here doing the Carolina thing and yeah, and then I got hurt.

So it's like the end of the world.

Yeah, it's all over now.

But we had those songs.

I'm telling me, I said all the time.

But it's like once it's a few good old boys have an idea, regardless of how long it takes.

And it gets that I did, gets to the point to where you're putting socks and shoes on your own feet.

Oh yeah, you can't tell that somebody.

And it's probably shot us in the ass a few times, yeah for sure.

And you know that just comes with age and being here and like understanding like okay, yeah, want nobody gonna tell us nothing, especially after going through all that and.

Finally that song going number one?

What happened?

What happened that night?

The song goes number one?

What do y'all do?

Oh?

Man?

That this was coming up the Christmas?

So you're talking about the best Christmas ever?

Yeah, I mean like it was that time year.

So it was charting and you know around it's a two neat.

Two week number one during the break a break and we're on now like here's our shot.

We're getting.

Everybody's getting President.

Years of two years about we would like shuffle gifts around.

We know our uncle was gonna give us a hundie, so we would like we would we would div that out and get grandmama.

President twenty would give credit card like for years it was.

It was it was like a you know, bad just just a raffle on you to take Robin, Peter to pay Paul.

Get over here, and you pass it around.

So we're so thankful, man, I can't explain how how much you know?

And and and then they just kept coming.

They keep coming, they're still coming.

They still haven't had how long I'll been at this.

I mean that was since we got signed in twenty eleven in Nashville, when I started a band in two thousand and one, so we were ten years before we got Oh my gosh, was there ever like a like a like a pack between you two.

It's like, hey man, we're in this together.

Whatever whatever comes is gonna come, but we're gonna do it.

We're gonna face the giants to get.

When he said, back when we were in parmally around it, we had a want a fire pit was actual fire.

We got one of deer camp Man.

They do the same things.

That's homeless stuff, right.

A couple of incidents and life friends pass away and just things happened that we when we made that pack, we're like, we're gonna we're gonna play music for a living.

Yeah, but it didn't matter, you know.

It was just a big try to play it for a living.

That was what the goal was.

What was still goal is making music for living.

So that was the pack that probably it's it's also a feeling too like and we kind of feel this way like I don't and I've told Dan this, I don't think there ain't nothing that we can't do together, you know what I'm saying, Like I got supreme confidence in him to go do his thing by himself and the same for me.

But like when when when we get together, I just I just feel like we we I mean we we've been a team our whole life, bro, And there ain't there ain't a problem that can't be solved.

They're in a situation we can't get get out of.

There ain't there ain't nothing you can throw at us that we can't get through.

And that's just the power of brotherhood, that the blood.

You know what I'm saying.

It's pretty sick doing with your brother too, Like just just seeing each other catch those dreams man, that y'all dreamed up.

I mean for us, it was like on the front porch of our deer camp one day, we were like, maybe we should do this, you know, and now we're supporting our families with it.

And that's that's crazy, man, that's crazy.

Do it.

Like you said, you've been together and we've been through everything together.

So it wasn't like he was going this way and I was going.

It was always that where we're headed.

Yeah, and the other guys too, Josh and Barry.

Absolutely.

How great is that I started it the same.

I feel like we all had the same playing level.

Nobody had money, nobody had back up playing, nobody had an uncle that knew anything more than the other ones.

Did you know what I mean?

It was like we all worked the same job from the same financial background.

You know, you didn't have somebody that could just say, well, I'm I'm gonna do something.

Parents have money, I'm just gonna do something different.

We were all easily gonna do this together.

And you know, we all trusted each other to do their parts in the band to kind of you know, do that.

You show up here and you do this.

You put these flowers out, I'll make them.

I'll be booked the shows, I'll deal.

With the you know, making radio.

And everybody has that little part.

Yeah, yeah, you'll get tired of each other now that you've been against.

The tail on the road.

But everybody spreads out when we get home.

It's gotten a lot of other guys in North Carolina now, so they really they really spread taking yeah and the kid and you know what I mean, Yeah, yeah, everybody's got their own a little thing that they get away.

But when we get back together.

We're still the same kids on the bus, just like if y'all got up there with it is.

And we hang out too, Like I mean, when when those guys come town, they still at my house being the pool, drinking.

Beer, hanging out talking trash.

Yeah, it's fun.

Me and me and Josh in the pool last time.

And I just got working out in the yard doing building, building, still working, and you know, I'm being me and Josh.

We work construction jobs together.

We were, you know, the worst of the worst jobs you ever want to do for ten dollars an hour.

And I still felt a little guilty sitting in the pool drinking the beer.

And I was like, yeah, let him do it.

We put I've done that enough enough.

I shouldn't feel bad about us enjoying my beer.

It's in my mind to helping people.

Yeah at whatever that is.

Yeah, a little guilty about for sure.

What's next for y'all?

Man, what's y'all?

What's what's the rest of twenty five look like?

What's twenty twenty six look like?

What y'all shows?

Music?

Yeah, we're starting this uh we're doing the uh uh feels like Home tour for the last leg of this year, which is just more dates, headline of shows and in the studio right now working on new stuff.

Got a bunch of new songs.

We're working on it where you know, you know that goes here, it's always go on, but you're always trying to find that song that hits that right nerve at the right time.

Sure that always that ball always moves to you know.

But but it's been great.

We've been on tour hard this year.

We've been doing like four.

Shows a week for the past couple of months.

Yeah, I don't want to show it is and and you know, you were talking about what you're mad at, what you're glad at.

I was telling him earlier.

I was like, Man, I'm glad that these people are coming out to see us because expensive now and there's so much going on.

There's so many things people can do.

And when they come, they come see you at a show, it's it's amazing to think they took their time, go take find a babysitter, Ordy brought the kids on whatever park and you know, hotels driving.

I'm telling you, man, it's it's amazing that everybody comes out and but.

You're work like like that experience for them is worth it for like that that's their therapy, you know, that's that's their release.

I know you're on stage working, but but they're in the crowd drinking beer and having a good time and forgetting life everything else man, and so it's that is special.

We always talk about.

Uh it seems like fans think people think that you can't see them from the stage, when in reality you can.

When I can see everything, you know, what's the Like, the craziest thing I ever saw was I saw a guy with this girl.

He left to go to the bathroom and we did.

Another dude came over from the bar.

They made out, He went back, and then that guy came back from the bathroom and Jackson to the sneak.

I saw that.

Wow, you paying attention.

I mean, you don't ask her on the straight.

You see this.

We watched the whole thing go down.

It's beautiful.

Have you ever been on stage and seeing anything crazy happening out in the in the CD?

That was just the other day.

I don't know what was going on.

He has a final Yeah, I mean we were in Canada.

Dude had a walker.

No way, No, I don't think it was a happened man, these guys were front row and they've been there all day so this and it was the older guys too.

They told me the guy was smoking it.

This is in Canada smoking a joint and he just blew it right into the police in the police you know, it's it's it's legal there, so probably not the out in front of something happened.

We just see crack.

And then had then I had to wheel him out, I think.

And just like that the couple that was behind him chair lost my game.

It went quick, just like that.

It just seems like somebody that was sitting in the front road and wait all day wouldn't really cause trouble, you know, because he's been there all.

Had a ponytail, you know, white gray ponytail.

Is the is the magic still there for you?

On stage?

Like is the is the is the shine still on it?

It's been more fun over the past couple of years, and it has been in a long long time, I really say that, and I will a lot of has do having more hits and yeah, you know, tru fans like just wouldn't.

Connection whatever it is.

And that's just realizing, you know, enjoy what's happening and you know you're always worried about what's the next, what's next?

You gotta stop enjoy, enjoy one show at a time.

You know.

Good for you man, Even y'all coming here, I'm like, oh and what am I going to getting into?

Great?

Yeah?

I was happy to come up here.

About you know what I mean, Take just a few minutes before we get out, Take just a few minutes.

If there's somebody right now listening to this and they've got a little baby band man, and they're trying to make moves and they're just getting their teeth kicked in like we all did for years and years and years, what's the advice you would give them besides keep doing what you're doing, because they know that.

Anybody said that was the biggest thing we heard.

I mean, make sure you got the people around you that are as excited as you are, and that's going to work as hard as you are, whether that's your bandmates or your your buddy who's helping manage or whoever.

I mean, they're surrounding yourself around the positive people that want to help you move forward, you know, and you know, you know what I mean.

What y'all did get away from the negative stuff and somebody, what are you doing?

You just around yourself, around us like minded people.

Is that what it is?

Get rid of the negative people that always got something negative to say or complaining about stuff all the time.

But it's hard enough.

Yeah, Like I said before, our thing was we always found one ray of positivity.

Even in the worst of the worst scenario, if there was one thing positive to come out of it, we would try to chase that instead of focusing on the on.

The yeah and work.

And we took criticism which it hurts your feelings or you don't like, and we would change it or work around it or try to do better, apply it, construct.

The criticism, and show up.

I mean, you know the whole show up.

Man, got to show up that.

I think that's even when you're.

Tired, even when you don't and you don't want to do it, man, some of the some of the best stuff gets created on those days.

And then it's the same as.

Song right now, say right how many times I'm like man, and then you go and you're like I needed to go.

You got to try to work it out and you got to get through it.

That's tell myself and that in the gym parking lot.

Every day, I'll be sitting there just.

Like, don't you feel better when you get out there?

I do now, I can honestly say that, but I'll cut my truck off sometimes it's it's like, what makes me get out and go to the gym when it's hot, is I cut immediate When I pull in, I cut the truck off, and I'm like to sit in there and are going to get get to work.

And there are times I'm in there and that's beating and I'm like, all right, that's.

You can just turn the truck back and drive off.

I sitting there and that's my office for like thirty minutes conditioning.

Oh yeah, let me get my stuff right now, man.

Text And the remedy to that is find you somewhere close that you can go, whether it's a trail or anything.

And don't even skip that whole thing about driving to somewhere and sitting in there and thinking.

About my thing.

Even if I'm on the bus, I'm like, give me off this bus.

I'm gonna go right now, because if I don't go, I'm in and I got a part like five minutes from my house.

I'm gonna use to cut off the truck work.

You're either gonna get cold or you're gonna get hot.

One way or another.

You get out of the truck.

Yeah, cut it as soon as I pull up on much because if I don't, I'll sit.

There A great idea.

Man, I'm.

I'm always in that.

It's my piece for time.

It's like a thirty minute it's my piece for Tony.

Does I mean if you pull up in the world, you look over, there's eight someone they're doing I'm saying, they're like a.

Squat machine.

They on a squat machine in the the Oh yeah.

My version of that is rolling.

Rolling through that Taco Bell drive and then going and parking and just looking over and there's there's three other dudes sitting there Taco Bell with the windows, real talking, eating, eating little cheek snack.

And at the gym.

Now because I know I'm the guy.

Oh man, I used to pull up the playing fitness when I went there, There'll be thirty dudes in a row, just like just water tripping out of the bottom of my trucks where they're leaving the ace.

Man, y'all are awesome.

It's been a lot of fun.

We we end every show with a little favorite segment, right and uh, and we're gonna do the same thing and.

Tell us why this song means something to you?

Uh.

This was my uh, this was our segue into country music growing up, because like I said, my dad was our you know, main influence, and he turned us on to all the southern soul.

And when Travis Tripp came out, I was like, that's my guy.

Now.

Now I'm kind of getting into country music a little bit because he was.

He was bridging that southern rock gap for the country, you know.

So we played this song, you know, my dad's band every night, this one and put some drive in your country and and uh, you know, I mean all that stuff.

I used to play.

I used to play that one.

Yeah, it's cool because you know.

And in the in the recorded version he said is uh, Damn I miss Dwayne Oman.

I wish he was still around.

You're still a version of a live version.

He did on c M T he says, Damn I miss Stevie rayvong with Stevie because Stevie.

Ray just died.

Wow for that and they were too guitar heroes.

He just he got me as a fan.

Right now, he's singing my kind of music.

He's talking about Steve Ray and Dwayne.

I was like, yeah, we we you know that's my youngest boy's middle name is Duane like that.

Oh yeah, that's cool stuff.

You got me in that Ray.

I can't hear nothing.

You're not gonna we're not gonna hear.

Kid g that are I see.

Same?

Were wrong?

Ever?

Leave me?

You sorry?

You love some and you see be heavy?

You could just come back home.

Well, here's a quarter call someone.

Who ca call someone who listens and my giving dam maybe one of your sort of face.

And don't you.

Come around here and.

None of your lines.

So here's a quarter call someone who came a little hand bone man, you coming after?

They go, yeah, we gotta tell them.

We gotta tell a couple of things.

Come show right now with my camera.

Flock.

That's right.

Shout out shout out to Covis for for keeping the lights on around his place.

And thank you guys man, Yeah man, thanks.

For coming on.

Story you congrats on everything that continue success past success, bro y'all.

Are y'all have been a staple in and country music for a long time in Nashville, And uh is it crazier?

Ingrained in the culture of country music forever.

I think that's what's happened in the past, uh a couple of years, and that's what has been amazing seeing that.

It's the truth.

Man.

Yeah, you're baby like finding people like we know who you are?

You know, really that.

Part of it is probably, like you said, past a couple of years that you've that's all.

That's great.

Y'all doing it with family and all that, that's awesome.

Where y'all going to?

Where can our listeners come see you play this?

This this far?

We're in the Oyster Fest and uh, I remember the name.

I did a video for Yestera in Connecticut coast.

I hope that's on the coast.

I'm excited to Orchard Fest.

I love to.

And then we're like I said, you go to at Parmelely music dot com.

All our tour dates are up there.

You know, we're all over the place.

So I know I'm going to Vegas.

Yeah, Vegas playing there, going to be in like NORFN, Virginia.

Kind that's about the closest to home in a while.

But yeah, check out the tour dates there and you can get like v I P.

We do VI I P packages before the show and all.

That kind of stuff and meet everybody.

Yep, yeah yeah, we're gonna come and see you all.

Come on, we can do some fishing with it.

I love fish, Yeah, we we.

I'm the fishing I do more to fishing, but we still do hunting together.

That's he's the fisher guy.

I'm hunting.

Yeah, there you go.

Right, that's right, young b.

Thank you for coming.

Man, don't have a good gotten times Parmly Man.

Thanks God's Country'll see you next time.

M hmm.