Good evening.

It's my pleasure to announce that we are now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

I know last week was a lot.

Last week tested my spirit and its shocked donation.

Who am I kidding?

Though?

I loved it, but I don't have the wherewithal to write, shoot, produce, perform, edit, and distribute an entirely new, fresh, original reality show of my own every week, all by myself.

So this week we're back to basics, back to my roots.

Yes, even I have roots, Ladies and gentlemen, We've finally made it to season three of Workout.

I thought I would have ditched this project long ago, after maybe three episodes, but here we are seventeen episodes in.

Maybe the ADHD medication they adjusted for me is working after all.

I don't know.

I wonder what it is.

There's so much to discuss about Season three of Workout.

The show finally finds its stride, It really comes into its own.

Jackie's hair has fallen from the Ryan Cabrera flip tips to kind of a late stage goo goo doll is how I like to describe it.

I'm bummed it to the last season.

I have to say it even though I was pretty tired of it, I'm having a hard time thinking of letting it go before I get to my interview with my very special guest this week, Let's just take a moment to realize how insane the world is right now.

And African buffalo killed a billionaire.

Larsa Pippen claims that her fucked up face is because of alert jeez.

Seven hundred dollars worth of La Boo boos were stole in a great Labubuo heist here in Los Angeles.

They didn't steal my spray tand leabuobo from last week's episode, now did they?

Though?

Racist?

Even though it's the dog days of summer, it's going to be freezing in Wyoming this week.

Let that sink in.

Josh Duamel is a doomsday prepper in Minnesota.

What is happening?

Adults are sucking on pacifiers to calm themselves down.

Gay A woman had diarrhea so bad on an airplane they had to reroute the flight, ground it, and then cancel it entirely.

And on top of all of that, it's tarantula mating season.

In other words, I love being alive, and I love the society we find ourselves in now.

Currently, for those of you stalking me, I mean paying attention to my personal life.

I do have a boy that I like coming to visit me this week, So maybe there won't be a new episode next week.

But let's just not give up hope.

Let's hope I can pull it off.

This week.

I needed a pro to really help me process the lesbionic enith I've achieved.

I feel like I have reached a clitteral summit, a sapphic crest, a cervical peak.

A few weeks ago, you'll remember carry O'Donnell from Sex Unique podcast was on the show talking about season two, and this week it was an out of body experience to sit down with the matriarch of sup herself, Laura Marie Shane.

Hall's a true Bravo expert.

She dives into everything, not even just about Bravo.

She does my spiritual chart.

We talk about my sobriety, bad tattoos, early jobs in LA, recent vacations, and of course, yes, a shit ton of Bravo bells and whistles boukackied throughout.

I know I keep saying it, but Supperately is my favorite podcast and sitting with Laura talking about not even just Bravo, but about anything.

It always reminds me of just what an expert she is or what she does.

It's truly a delight to be in her presence.

Oh when I saw the movie Weapons, definitely go see it.

Put it at the top of your list and see it now before the office faggot at whatever your job is, ruins it for you this week, because every gay guy who wants to seem cool is going to go around the office ruining it for people this week.

So make sure you see it asap, maybe even on your lunch break today.

I'm still taking suggestions for what show to do next.

I'm thinking Anna Nicole still that's the front runner, but for the next couple of weeks I will be taking suggestions.

But it won't last long, so get him in now.

Welcome to show Pony.

I'm John Hill.

We are now close to the finish line.

Season three of Workout begins.

Enjoy the interview with Lara Marie Shane Hall's.

I don't mind holding.

Okay, I know, I know it is so cu okay, Laar Marie Shane Hall's let's get it done.

Let's do it.

Is this sing on.

I think it is.

It's a blue light on Yeah, sex unique podcasts.

I'm always coming for subsnachos.

I'm always trying to just steal your vibe.

You're like, come on.

You're really You're kind of like third mic on SEP at this point because you've co hosted with each of us.

Do you understand it's my dream in life?

It makes me so happy.

You're welcome anytime.

Do they hate me this up head?

Oh?

They love you?

Okay, you tell me whoever.

I have a theory that's like whoever you hate, it's like what you hate in yourself.

So it's just a chance and an opportunity to examine.

Wow, my my rolodex of hate that I've gotten is really flipping right now.

You just got back from vacation.

I did you have a glow?

Thanks?

Was it relaxing or do you get stressed out on vacation?

No, it's relaxing.

I like, I'm only stressed out if the accommodations aren't up to my standards.

So you bougie, like, will you look at a room and go back down and go I hate that room?

Move me?

Really?

Only if it's like smells bad.

I never do that.

People do that as a just a policy.

They always ask for this next.

So it's so much energy to do that.

Like the room really has to be like a piece of shit or have a smell that I can't like handle.

Okay, So how many people are be traveling with at this point?

Traveling with two?

Traveling with a gay couple?

Well, gay couple, gay couple.

There any sexual at tension, like as a third no, okay, yeah, sometimes could be.

It feels nice to join a couple.

I like to third wheel depending on the couple.

Well, yeah, I mean I love to third deal third wheel with Simon and Carey.

They're a dream couple.

Yeah they don't.

They're not mad at each other and stuff.

Yes, there, I have no anger.

I can't handle when people are passive aggressive or they're bickering.

No, that's an immediate I'm out one wheel and that's me driving away in the unit cycle.

Okay, Green, glad you had a good vacation.

Yeah it was fun.

I'm glad to be back.

I thought I was going to be really like darked out, and I am, but it's not in the suicidal way I was thinking I would be.

Okay, Well, welcome home.

We missed you.

Where were you?

You were in New York Fire Island.

Fire Island and back to the city, then Peetown's then back to the city.

You would have shown Petown shows in p Town.

Have you been to Petown?

Yeah?

I have?

Okay, it was fun.

Yeah.

I saw Dina Martina in Peatown.

A queen, A queen, my favorite performer.

Yeah, the humor is impeccable.

You got to go back.

I want Carry and Simon.

They've never been, or one of them has been.

Carrie's never been.

Carrie has never been.

Simon's been like one long time ago.

We're talking about doing that next summer too.

You should come.

Oh okay, I'm intrigued.

Yeah.

I feel very invisible in Pea Town.

I well, you've never been a Fire Island, right.

No, I'm I would love to go to Fire Island.

Would I be even more invisible there?

Or would I be incredibly visible?

Oh?

You would pe Town.

When I went, it was as though I didn't exist at times, and I would never.

Have exist in Pee Town.

You would absolutely exist.

I feel like it's very woman friendly Fire Island.

There's just not women at all.

Really, I thought there were lots of lesbians.

The other in their own sections.

They're in the lesbian section.

Boys are in the pines, women are in cherry Grove, and the pines and cherry Grove are separated by a vast desert.

Oh, a desert.

You have to hike through a marsh and a forest and sand dunes to get to the lesbians.

There is no but.

I understand why the lesbians would do that.

I understand it.

Well, the boys just go crazy, and that we have figured out our version of that, which is great.

Two incredibly different versions of big the way the lesbians do it and the way the gays do it.

So yeah, that's very interesting.

They're cracking open beers and laughing.

The boys are taking care about this, not us really like our house is so fun.

We're watching chromatica Ball for the fourth time on HBO Max.

We're making chicken fajitas.

Love that.

And by the end of the trip, we just kept impersonating women coming so like every five seconds someone it would be like it just and by the end of the week no one was even saying worse.

They were just communicating.

Female orgasm, female orgasm.

Simon showed us a pterodactyl porn it's just it's a fun house watching memes and things.

Yeah.

Yeah, but the rest of the great time, the rest of the boys are on GHB and having sex.

Yeah.

Did you ever do GSHB?

Never have?

Wow?

I feel like you might enjoy it.

I think I really would.

I only did it a few times, and I was the kind of drug addict where someone would come over from Grinder and hook up and they'd be like, I'm gonna I'm gonna go pee and they'd go to the bathroom and I would take the g be important to different glasses and then so they'd leave and I would have their steal their drugs.

Wow.

Or I would be like.

Just I don't know.

Later, love, I don't know what happened.

Everyone's like, okay, so just yus, we did it all.

Get out, now get out?

Now you get out and I'll finish it myself.

There was nothing I loved better.

Than I'm sure they were really fooled, but I don't know where the coke is.

I feel like people that do cooke are always really aware of what's happened.

I think we think at the times.

I because I used to buy it and I would stash some for myself, and then I would be like, all we have is this tiny little bag for the rest of this party.

I guess it's gone vibe really, because I love doing drugs alone.

You were alone.

I didn't like partying with other people.

Yeah, that's kind of the mark of a true.

I couldn't wait.

Fortunately, Yeah, I know.

I wish I was like a raver.

I mean I went to a rave a little every now and then.

Yeah, it's more it's certain drugs require certain things.

Yeah.

But yeah, if you're doing a lot of drugs, but then you find yourself more and more just preferring to do all the drugs by yourself, that's just a time to check in and ask are we on the right path?

Yeah?

And thankfully you know you.

Asked I asked.

You asked the important question.

Yeah, and people asked you.

People came to me asking an important question.

Yeah.

Yeah.

People came to be at Watch What Happens Live?

Like it became like the elephant in the room.

You in the back in the back of Watch with Abens Live.

Yeah, behind the scenes, yeah, people are like they're like, come be a guest on Watch What Happens Live, but also have a chat with Jo.

Watch out for this guy.

Literally, Mark and Suelo's had a chat with me.

People people would come and they would I could.

I could tell that Andy had said to them like, peep peep are over there, and they would and looking back, they really would.

And Andy even said, He's like, are you a sly because I would wear fentanyl patches at work.

Okay, anyway, hardcore you you're got conroll.

You and carry are going to be on watch Wrappens Live.

Did you see my email?

Yeah, I'm fingers crossed.

The wheels are turned.

The wheels are turning.

I'm really excited.

I don't want to jinx it.

You're not going to jinx it?

Okay, cool, we've already jinxed it.

Like yeah, people.

Call People called into me and Andy's show and randomly said, can you get sup on there?

This is not just me people asked to get That's.

Why I sent the email because someone called in and they were like, oh, we saw that you were in the fines with Carrie.

We really want to see sex.

You need podcast as bartenders.

And I was like, this is the way we're doing it.

Because then Andy goes, oh, who's that guy?

Is that that guy from that podcast?

I'm like, yes, you go, oh, he's so funny.

I go, you guys should really have them.

He goes, great, I would love it.

And so I sent you and said her Andy's on air, verifiable decree.

He wants them on, So find them a day.

Huge, huge.

Yeah, you know, I just it's hard for me to get my hopes up because I've come so close, like a handful of times, and it really is like my Moby Dick is watch up.

It's specifically not even being a guest, being a bar barn.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's the white whale.

My white whale is being in the chair.

We all have our whales.

I can't even conceive of a world where I'm in the chair.

Yeah, you know, it couldn't chair.

I think one day, let's just start with the barb baby steps.

Actually I put I took notes from this episode, so I finished the too.

You did?

Oh?

I did want to ask you some things before we get started, please do you know that?

Okay, so we're recording this on eight eight twenty five.

You know what today is?

Today's the lions Portal, the lions Gate Portal, the lions Gate Portal.

Okay, explain what that is?

I was hoping that you would explain to me, I can.

I think it's the powerful day for manifestation.

It is when it's the most powerful day for manifestation.

Holy shit.

But you have to be careful and you have to be aware of the d's and don't.

Okay, what are the dues?

I didn't write them down.

To be specific.

Wait, this is exciting because I got have you heard of human design?

No?

Okay, well, some like.

Hippie is that the human centipede?

Not far off?

Some hippie like decided to invent this.

I guess they kind of like channeled and then just wrote it.

Seems like they channeled and wrote a screed and they can they mix together astrology, eaching, maybe some numerology.

They just like merged everything and created this thing called human design, which functions kind of the same ish as astrology.

Like it's like your name, birthday, birthplace, birth time, and then you get like a whole map of your human design.

And I'm collecting friends and their charts, so I want to do your chart.

Ten seventy seven is my birthday.

Chic.

I just found out I'm a triple scorpio, not a double scorpio.

Whoa what are you?

I'm a Gemini.

I'm a double gemini, Leo Rising.

This is also why I want you to meet Andy, because you're also a dead head and he's a Gemini.

I know we're really like, I feel meant to know each other for sure, at least to dance next to each other out of dead.

Nor is so is so good together?

What's your birth time?

Okay, but here's the snag.

I was born in Texas.

What's the timeless?

You weren't putting time on the birth certificate, so no one knows the exact time.

I have my birth certificate.

There's no time.

So I called my mom.

I said when was I born?

And she was like, like nine or ten in the morning, And I said, no, it has to be exact.

And she said why and I said because of astrology.

And she was like, well, I'm definitely not telling her first time.

God damn it.

But we say nine or ten?

Can we estimate?

Can we just pick?

Can we say ten?

Nine?

Let's see, let's see what they say.

You can speak to your relatives and check with the hospital where you were born.

You can find very good astrologers specialize in chart rectification.

The science of figuring out your exact time?

How would an astrologer?

Are we able to figure that out?

But if I call the hospital and I go, hey, if forty seven years ago, there's no record of it.

But does anyone there happen to remember when I came out of my mom's puss?

What if they're like nine thirty eight am, Oh, it's what we talk about every day.

Well, let's say, what do you tell astrologers when they do you'r T thirty nine thirty?

Okay, what's the location?

San Antonio, Texas?

Oh?

You want this blanket?

See?

This is his next move.

He wants to be under this.

Omm Yeah, good boy, here you go.

He won't be smothered.

I promise you're a manifestor.

That's my thing.

Mm hmmm.

Really, manifestors are wild, strong, playful creatures.

True, as a manifestor, you're born with a very strong sense of who you wanted to be.

You were born already knowing how to raise yourself.

But it's likely the adults in your life were told to discipline and regulate your natural urges because that's what they're told is the right thing to do with kids.

How do they know?

But the thing with discipline.

Is it actually constricts your energy and tells you it's not good to be a wild, spontaneous, strong creature when that's exactly who you came here to be.

Not only are you meant to be like that, but that's actually when people will love you the most, even if they don't know that consciously.

That's also when you'll be the most successful, impactful, and feel the most at peace within yourself.

Wait, I'm freaked out.

This isn't crazy, this is real, This is true.

You're an initiator, You get the ball rolling, start something, create movement, often without even trying that others can join in on or follow you on.

You don't have to figure out how to create movements.

You just have to follow your urges, because those are the very things that will create the right impetus in others.

When you're being full of you, your actions will always create a spark in others that they can react to.

This is you.

You are the cause and everyone else is the effect.

And like do drugs again?

Yeah?

I love that.

Yeah, you're supposed to like do what you want in life.

Give yourself the license to go off and be and do what your heart is leading you to do, trusting that it's always the way you're going to create everything you want.

This is a powerful lions Gate portal realization.

If I'm a manifestor and today's the most important day of manifestation, it.

Really is your biggest desires to be able to do exactly what you want.

That is true.

Manifestors are unintentional leaders because ironically, when they do whatever they want and let themselves be seen doing it, it catches the attention of the very people who are meant to partake in it.

I don't want to be too weird right now, but like this is for this is resonating majorly.

Embrace your bigness.

Bigness scary.

Don't say that ever to a girl or.

Yeah, what're you trying to say?

It's so misunderstood.

It's not loud, aggressive, or in your face.

It's just unafraid to stand on its own essence and radiate that out to the world.

Instead of adopting or changing for anyone.

Trust that your essence is perfect because it's the essence the universe design for you specifically, so it's something to honor rather than be ashamed or apologetic for.

Okay, just to circle back, on the drug thing.

I feel like when I was such a drug addict, just doing drugs at home alone because I was afraid to be myself.

Yeah, and I was staying at home just trying to like numm down and escape.

And once I got over, I feel like all I do is whatever the fuck I want.

That's good and I'm happier than I've ever been.

Yeah, this says you don't have to try to be big, you just have to stop being small.

Oh, oh my god, Texas does breed really good?

Well, you're not far out your Oklahoma, I know a.

Little bit north.

Oh.

You have the same thing as me, which is the bonus life.

What's the bonus?

The bonus life means like you're not here to learn any major karmic lessons, Like you're here to just like vibe.

That is it?

Be vibe?

Don't you feel like you kind of like all this shit people are struggling to figure out and learn.

I'm like, duh, yeah, yeah, Like once you've done the work and like you're in the therapy or doing the drag investigation on yourself, you're just here to live a bonus life.

I do feel like I'm living a bonus life.

I feel like what I'm doing here is observing key king, laughing and vibing.

Your manifestation process is nonspecific, meaning like you don't need to get like you don't need to do The feeling is more important than the details.

Yes, that's the thing when I when I hear people talk about how to manifest and I try it, it doesn't work for me, Like write it down a certain way, stay it out loud, close your eyes, do this, or if I just believe it's kind of like the way it's going to be, it happens.

This is so, this is Pete's happiest place.

I love when a dog gets cozy.

Yeah, okay, thank you so much for that.

You're so welcome.

So you're last How long you been doing so?

Fifteen years, eighty five years, since twenty seventeen, but I've been podcasting since twenty fourteen.

I remember your early, those early days up or Elizabeth back in twenty twelve.

She was I was like aware of in la podcasting and stuff.

It was one of the first podcasts.

I think Watch What Crappens was out around the same time, but it was the two of our podcasts in the Trenches I think I was the first podcast to ever speak on vander Pump Rules.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's been fun to add.

Like to go from like I was in my apartment, like started the podcast on this couch, to then being like, oh, we're in a studio now, and like getting to do all this other stuff is really great.

A bigger production budget so that you guys could break out and do sketches and bits and scenes and yeah, videos or whatever it is.

Music video, release a single.

I would love to do a single, hit single like.

I see that for you guys, thank you?

Yeah, yeah, okay, it's okay.

In addition to the lions Gate portal, it's also the twenty first anniversary today, the eighth of the Dave Matthews band Cruz Feces disaster.

Wow is that when they dropped it it was in the Chicago River.

Dropped it like it was hot.

They they sprayed shit on a boat full of people on a boat.

Okay, because their plane flew over.

And they were a bus.

I think the bus like dumped it over what they thought was a bridge or something, but it was a boat full of people.

You know, I haven't looked into this, like fecal scandal enough because I thought like I was misinformed.

Well, I think if I just knew that like shit and Dave Matthews man, and that shit happened to them or because of them.

Well, I don't think it was a plane because if Dave Matthews isn't a.

Plane, right, m hm, where do the planes dump?

They don't really, I think they dump.

They dump in the area, just goes into the vibes.

Kind of like all I know is when you're walking on the street, you're not getting like, actually, where are you?

Where aren't you?

Yeah?

Just spores.

I think it was their tour bus and they dumped their shit overboard, Like if a bridge is that what the bridge?

Is that what the buses are doing these days?

Slash always twenty one years ago, maybe they weren't.

I always was told you're never supposed to shit on the tour bus.

Ever, that's like rule number one about a tour bus.

Yeah, because it's shared space.

Yeah, but you're just like, yeah, just you're not supposed to do it, even if you just go to the gas station.

I don't shit on the plane for damn sure.

If it happens, it happens for me.

I don't want to why.

I just think it's two close quarters.

Sometimes.

I like having that secret.

I'm not gonna stop it from happening.

I'm not going to close up shot.

I don't think you should hold it.

Yeah, I'm not advocating for because that's very unhealthy.

No, yeah, it's really bad for you.

But I don't like you know what.

I like you shitting.

I don't want like an annoying person pooping before I.

Have I don't like anyone else shitting on a plane but me or my loved ones.

Yes, yeah, a friend, Yeah exactly.

Okay, Well that happened twenty one years ago.

A fourth person through a with the WNBA.

I heard that they're throwing the dildos and that now there's like a no bag policy.

See, you're ruining it for everybody, you.

Know, which I said on SUP.

I was like, this is once again punishing women because women need bags more than any other gender.

We have so much stuff.

I think women need bags, and then gays need to have bags.

But if you're not a woman or a.

Gay man, a straight guy doesn't need a bag.

No what for for exactly, for your gun or for a dildo.

That you throw.

But like I don't think that we should be punished for the idiots who are undoubtedly straight men.

Who else would be throwing a dildo?

Christino?

Yeah in full glam Nancy mate.

Yeah, I don't know who would be throwing a dildo except a straight asshole.

Yeah.

It's like also like, these girls are just trying to play basketball.

They don't need to do.

It, so ridiculous.

They also like don't get paid.

I know, So why are you throwing dildos at them?

Why are you so mad at them?

It's for the love of the game.

I know.

Really, they love the game more than maybe anyone playing basketball.

And with that, let's talk about lesbians lesbian sports.

So have you ever watched workout?

Never?

Wow?

I love it me either.

This is the first time it's really good.

Well, you're starting season three.

I made you start with this first episode of season three, and I have to say, this is when it has locked in.

That's when these first two seasons were like, they were tough.

I was really dreading it.

But now I'm back in.

Okay, Well, I have some questions.

First of all, who died.

And how I've been talking about this?

Okay, what do you mean who died?

Because a guy died.

That was Bleeper Bleeker Peeper No, Brian Heeler is his best friend, Doug.

Doug, Doug was the hottest.

What happened?

Was it tragic?

Did he get cancer?

It wasn't cancer, but it was what God say.

Yeah, it was maybe some complications with some stuff he then he had.

Was he gay?

Yes, but Peeler is not.

Peeler is Magan now straight?

Yeah?

Okay, Yeah, he has really horrible energy.

He has terrible energy.

See toxic trait a gay guy.

I find him so hot.

Peeler m hmm for a moment.

Jesse is hot.

Jesse was on this show that you're on right now.

Wow.

I interviewed him and I cried.

He's hot one of them.

And he's fun.

He seems fun and like a good a good vibe.

And he was great on TV.

He is his story from now.

I want you to go back and watch the episode.

He has one of the only success stories from being on a reality show and then turning your life into like a wise attending sage Wow, adopting kids.

He truly did have like a really good energy.

He is amazing.

He's one of the greatest people I've literally ever met and was that, Yeah, I love that.

He's great.

Okay, So Doug, Doug was Doug a dark No, he was like a beacon of.

Play everyone like the older brother you wish you had, like the greatest.

That's so sad.

It's really sad.

And I knew it was coming.

The thing was everyone kept saying, well, someone else dies though, because Doug's he's there from the beginning, people always talk about him.

I knew it was coming.

And Andy said, oh, I cried at the reunion when Doug died.

So I always knew Doug was going today.

But did it happen suddenly on the show.

It did because last season he was training his ex boyfriend who had to go to dialysis because he had kidney failure, so he was his storyline was like he's helping his ex wuo he still loves and then all of a sudden, Doug got sick out of nowhere and then he passed a sudden.

Oh I hate that.

I know.

Tragic, Okay, no, wonder everyone's reeling.

Yeah yeah, yeah, no, he was beloved.

But we'll get into it.

But there's some another person dies else dies?

Is it the girl with the glasses or they knock on her door and they go, it was like coming up this season and there's a moment where they knock on a girl's door and she answers with glasses.

They go, were you okay?

And I was like, this is what I want yearned to see.

But maybe that the red herring and it's not her.

Somebody has ah is the girl who says it's my life, it's my journey.

No, she's a different I was thinking she's probably a client, not a trainer.

Okay, yeah, it was the girl who has kind of like not Rebecca.

My girl might be the new girl?

Is it Ranessa the blonde?

Vanessa the blonde?

She's new, she's new.

There's four new people.

Vanessa's new, Lisa the office manager is new, Augustina is new, and Greg Plitt is new.

What do you think of Greg Plitt?

Clit?

Greg Clitt is not making my clip hard.

I'll tell you that.

At first I was like, Okay, I got it, like he has a hot bod.

But then he wore the fedora that was a federal crime, and I said it's over for him, like he's lost me.

You can never bounce back from that.

I hate it, especially on like a big guy with a little hat is wrong.

Let's back up a little bit though, who dies?

Can you say, do you know?

Or are you just waiting?

I just found out?

Can you tell me right as well?

I don't want to ruin it for your listeners.

They found out live on the show, and I found out.

I was trying not to google ahead.

But then I had a guest on who was like, oh, spoiler alert.

No, you cannot bark at him.

Come here, Greg Plitt dies.

No.

Was he put to death.

He was given the death sentence because of the fedora.

Surely after he wore the fedora.

A team of people.

If they executed him, yeah.

Of course, not to make fun of the deceased.

I don't want to see this, but tacked without lapping.

Just say it.

It was actually after workout had stopped.

It was after after workout had finished, and he was just kind of doing fitness influencing or whatever.

I think twenty a few years after workout he was he was filming fitness.

Like videos.

Yeah, like a fitness video like working out looking sexy on a train track in the valley and he got hit by a train.

No while filming it, like sit ups and stuff.

But I know, wouldn't you hear the train come?

Would the tracks would rattle?

Like there would be seemingly lots of time.

This is what I don't have.

This is shocking.

I know it was after the show ended.

My god, so knowing that, yeah, like and I did have a reaction when I found out that he was hit by a train while filming.

That's kind of poetic and beautiful.

You know, he went what he did, what he loved, and it was truly the best way for him to go, honestly, Yes, Like it's he was committed to the lifestyle and he lived his dream.

Right to the n He was living his dharma.

He was walking the walk.

But I just like, getting hit by a train is so what's the word intense and specific and tragic and scary?

What if his like do you think his his like little sneaker got stuck in the he tried to get away, but he couldn't.

Because I don't understand how that would happened, because I feel like you would just know that the train's coming for so long before it's actually there, Like, trains don't sneak up on.

You, No, they don't.

Maybe he had headphones in and he was listening to corn or a loud rock band to amp him up.

But then the trains, the tracks would rattle.

Like you said, you.

Just think would think that your number one priority if you wanted to make train track content would be like making sure the train isn't coming.

You'd be like, I really want to get the shot, but like I also want to be incredibly certain to miss the train.

Well, this is the difference between us and Greg Clin.

Greg was like he had one goal and one goal only.

Seems to look hot on those tracks.

Do you think he filmed himself dying by accident?

My friend Harlan knows the full story, and we'll get to the bottom of it.

I'm haunted and it was it was here in the valley.

Maybe it was those quiet trains, you know how some of those, like city trains, are kind of they're not like a locomotive.

They're like you would think the conductor would be like honk the horn.

I have a lot of questions.

Okay, we'll get to the bottom.

Maybe it was a suicide.

See like, maybe maybe.

This is a spinoff podcast before you do investigation to investigation investigate his death, well, like it.

Is a crazy story.

Maybe that's a bottle episode where I really get to the bottom of.

It the people might demand you do.

The other thing is once you say Greg Plitt's name, all you think is he appears.

No, you get like, I have a friend who was talking about it, and now he gets he's been served all this like Greg Plit fitness content.

Wow, so I'm about to get my algorithm.

Trained by a ghost ghost trainer is a good like Lifetime show, I.

Know what a legacy.

I know he was he was hot.

I mean, yeah, he was kind of that hot.

Though that looks a little off as well, you know, I.

Like when they're all making fun of him.

This was also just the era of reality TV where it was like you kind of bait people all the time, even more than like they don't do it like then.

Right, okay, so what do you know?

You know, the ins and outs of Bravo reality, especially looking back, what do you think about, Yeah, their interaction, their behavior.

You know, this is technically a workplace drama.

Like k of early vander Palms.

Yeah, so you have Jackie who's iconic, yeah and lesbian in charge, but who's also dating her own staff.

At points, and you can tell they broke up.

The theory is that it was for camera time.

Rebecca was like, I'll be a lesbian this season for camera time.

She's not a lesbian.

She's had a boyfriend the first season.

Yeah, I feel like and I'm not even mad at it, Like they're both hot, why not just like have a little affair.

No, it seems like fun.

I like her and I think that like they're everyone's kind of playing their role.

But it's also just wild because they'll talk about like people don't talk about Lisa the way the staff is talking about Jackety.

Right, she's more of a peer and a boss.

Yeah.

I like when Lisa, her new managing director fat shames her is crazy amazing.

This was really the era of fat shaming.

We're a peak now that this is two thousand and eight.

This season it started actually kind of sweet, and then by season two you can tell Biggest Loser was popping off and things where people America wanted to watch fat people losing weight in a major way.

It was like very much about that.

It was it was really boring.

That's not my that's not my preferred show, Like I want to see people getting shit faced and fighting or like watching Intervention, Like, I would love to see braw footage of people, just like shooting up.

I have a quote from Intervention tattooed on my body.

Come on which Intervention episodes?

Sylvia?

Who was that Sylvia?

She was drinking airplane sized Vodkas all day at work at the dress shop and falling into bushes and driving.

She would drive drunk and drink while driving, and they would film big problems for driving.

They love to film people.

That's also like, I feel like Intervention.

We've kind of moved past intervention of this society, but I do think it still is on.

I think the format is different, it's different.

It changed.

I think they switched to like Canada and things were less like gritty.

Yeah, And I think once people started to get it pretty quick, they were like, oh, I'm on an intervention.

Never mind like someone telling you to say, hey, we heard your adict to crack.

We're just doing like a student film, like I don't know, no people know, everyone's wised up.

Yeah, but back in the day day, Yeah, Sylvia was falling face first into bushes.

And her aunt Freda said, come on, Sissy.

Come on, sissy.

Yeah, it's a Oh that's sweet.

I know when did you get it?

Did you get it after you got sober?

I was in the blackout when I got it.

I got it the same day I got that nice which I got I went to pump drunk.

What does that say?

I've never seen that one.

I'm getting this remove so this is.

Is that why it's like a little bit Yeah, because you started the removal.

Processing sessions in.

It's a long No.

I've never had a tattoo.

It hurts, it looks really painful.

I took about eight xan X bars in the morning, went to Pump with my friend Brandon.

We did bottomless whatever.

Yeah, and then after brunch she was like, let's go get tattoos.

And I got Relentless with no vowels and Instagram story font.

That's wild.

I'm really glad that.

You got so there are photos of me getting it.

I'm like, I don't remember getting it.

Relentless.

Why it's the stupidest fucking thing.

What that is?

The tattoos that people get when they're drunk, though, are like really amazing.

Now I kind of like it, but it is really embarrassing.

And I paid a lot of money and I'm getting it removed.

When you feel the call to get a tatto room, and I always think you should follow it.

But I do love the story and the intention behind it, and you were relentless in many ways.

That's the irony you tap in, I think to your manifestors.

Yeah, and when you're drunk, like those decisions like are such a timestamp, you're memento essentially.

That's momento.

I know it at least looks hot.

My sister's phone number.

That's cool.

I think it's cute.

I like that one.

Yeah, okay, so yes, they're all talking about one thing.

To note, Jackie's hair has gone from like Ryan Cabrera to down so before she was spikey spikey.

Yeah, and this is a whole new hairdoo.

This is a major Now it's more like major.

Edging into like Meg Ryan like Shag.

It's edging in.

It's a two thousand and eight version of the shag.

Like late stage googoo doll.

Yeah, she looks good.

She looks great.

Where is Jackie now?

I started to look, but then I was getting sad.

Jackie was also on this podcast, and she's going to be on it again.

Okay.

She lives in Ohio.

Okay, she had a dui arrest.

Did you come across that.

No, not yet.

I just had Like I was in the early stages of researching, and then I thought, why don't I let John tell me love it?

Yeah, it's not as tragic as getting hit by a train filming fitness workout regime regimen.

But she did take amby and drive to seven eleven in her panties and then get a DUI and it was all for.

She's fucking relentless.

But so then was that before Ohio?

It was before Ohio?

And then I think that started the ball rolling.

I think that was twenty seventeen maybe something like that.

And interesting, you know, the fitness industry has obviously changed so much.

Yeah, backing up even further, she's Jillian Michael's ex girlfriend.

Wow boom, that's intense.

Yeah, and she had a lot to say about her on the.

Show Sky what's it called Sky Sport and Sky Sport?

Yeah, and Spa.

Was it eighty five hundred Olympic It's on Wilshire, on Wilshire, yes, okay, but close to okay, it's.

Like Los Enega and Wilshire.

I used to work right down the street from that, Like across the street from the Larry Flint buildings when I worked at the Producer's Guild of America, and so I was really getting spirited back to that exact like intersection and location when I was seeing sky Club right.

Well, that's why it's been cool to watch this show, because when did you move.

To LA I moved in two thousand and eight.

Okay, yeah, that's basically I moved here right two thousand and seven.

Eight, But like eight's when I got an apartment here and was running through these streets and people were talking about Jackie Warner at the bars.

They'd be like, oh, Jackie Warren, like she was a star sighting.

I didn't move to West Hollywood until twenty ten, so I was like in Santa Monica prior to that, or Beverly Hills adjacent for a few months.

Then Santa Monica, and then I feel like things started really happening.

Like twenty ten, West Hollywood was the place to.

Be, and I lived I Lostien against Santa.

Monica while you were in the mix.

I lived behind Barry's boot camp.

Wow.

Historic historic, Yeah, we're a part of history, truly.

She's in she has a new girl, Jackie has a new girlfriend, Brianna.

It's giving like Hitler Youth.

They're very just.

Lots of blonde and very like kind of twin almost twin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They make a spinach and ice smoothie that.

Looked pretty good.

Yeah, I would drink it.

Jackie's really negative about food to people.

I noticed and season when she tells this woman tests that her diet should just be a harbored egg and one small apple.

For the whole day.

That's what we still are wondering.

We're hoping she meant just for a meal breakfast, but maybe she meant all day.

It's a question we still have.

Yeah.

Like she turned up her nose at the avocado at the big dinner party.

Yeah, she was just being a bitch.

I think to be to be bitchy.

Yeah, and I wonder what her human design is, you know what she.

I'm curious.

Yeah, I don't know her birthday and time.

But maybe you got to get with that figure out.

Yeah, that's actually a really fun thing to do with her.

She identifies as a life coach now cool, Yeah from Ohio.

Yeah, like in Ohio.

Yeah, Hey, people have lives, they need coaching all over.

In fact, probably a lot of people in Ohio need a life coach.

Yeah, that's actually very true.

Yeah, she hasn't dated anyone.

She says she hasn't found anyone to know how she finds attractive enough to go out with.

Fair enough, her words, not mine.

Rebecca and her have a She and Rebecca have a conversation.

Rebecca scared of the chihuaha, which I didn't like.

No, me neither.

I didn't like that.

I don't like painting Chihuahas in a negative light either.

They're so cute to me.

I know, and I think they're so sweet.

I will never not have a chuaua close your ears, Like as soon as we need to transition to the Rainbow Bridge, there's gonna be another one on the way.

Oh yeah, I'm gonna be Mickey Rourke.

I'm gonna be doing more.

I'm gonna have a fucking baby, little tiny dog.

I know.

I would totally get a Chihuahua as well.

Like I just love their little I like their like glassy black eyes are so cute to me.

There's also little human beings I know in they're they have a lot of personality, and I need a lot of personality.

And a dog and I need them to be needy as fuck.

I need them to be so obsessed with me they can't handle it.

See, I like them an independent.

I like a mixture of the two.

I like Tony's a lap dog for sure, but then sometimes like I'll be upstairs and he'll be downstairs and we're just like vibing in our own ways.

And I also like that that feels comforting.

I like that.

I like Yeah, but now I'm just so obsessed with pugs.

It's like I just have to have.

That's part of my manifestation is like I really want to have like five.

They say that you have a type.

They have a type of girl or guy you like, and you also have a type of dog.

Like I'm a choas are my type.

Pugs are your type, hugs are my type.

I get it hugely.

Reanessa, we talked about she's a new trainer.

She has this middle part, but then it's every other like an inches.

Across she's doing that part.

Got about that haircut.

Yeah, it was an unfortunate moment in time.

I think I tried to do like a igzag part once and then I realized, like this isn't for me.

Yeah, she self describes herself as and she describes herself as naughty, which I think is annoying.

And she's flirting with the guy.

I mean, like, just put your palvits out.

I was also dying at the level of insinuation.

Jar bullshit.

Yeah, like people they don't do that kind of stuff in the in the gym anymore.

No, they're really I mean it is you're you're sweaty, you're working out.

But I think right now people have reached a level of like people are not doing that at gym's.

No, it's not like a I've never experienced a gym personally for me and myself and I as a cruising space, right though.

I know that that happens.

It happens up the street from you at Equinox.

But I go to a very co ed like it's lesbians, old ladies gaze.

That's nice.

It's really good.

You can just lock in and get the work done.

Everyone's nice.

No one's trying to.

I think people do meet up and have sex, but like not at the gym.

There's no place to do it.

My gym is a little bit like ran through everyone there is so.

Is it like weightlifting?

Yeah, very does Lord go there, you can cut.

Yeah, I know she's at a gym and like probably Echo Park or the East Side, and she's like benching.

Harry Potter goes there sometimes, that's cool.

Rachel Sennett goes there.

That's cool.

Yeah, that makes me when I go there.

But it's not like it's not about gym.

Yeah, it's like just cool people very much.

So that's that's worth the drive.

I mean, if you remember, Jesse has a boyfriend for one scene, Kaitlin happy for him.

Okay, so the new people.

Augustina, who's like giving ninety day fiance.

She won a competition that happened like at the what looked to be like Century City.

Oh yeah, I thought it kind of looked like Sunset five in a way.

It could be they showed Sunset five in the buberl too at one point.

Could also be Hollywood in Thiland because the way that the people were up above looking down.

Yeah, I was trying to figure out, like what commercial retail space that was.

Lisa is a new character also the managing director.

I like Lisa investigator.

We needed her, needed someone connecting the office to the trainer, that's not just Jackie.

Yeah, and I also enjoy like office paraphernalia of yesteryear, like all the files that she puts on a desk that are now emailed you exactly, like everything's digital.

So but then you had like files and she would be like, your schedule is right here, and showing a piece of paper with a schedule on it.

That was like office born for I love playing office me too, is like my favorite thing.

I like playing it more than like working.

In When when I ever had to work in office, all I really did was play office, and once say, once I had to do work, I was upset.

I played Internet.

Yeah, I played take pills.

Brian thinking, Okay, So Greg plitt Rip hot new trainer.

Brian thinks that Jackie hired him to mess with him.

I like that.

Greg likes to train people who are already in shape, he says.

Yeah, he says, because then I get to work out.

I get to work out.

Not only trains them, he then dates dates them.

Yeah, that girl.

He dates a girl that looks like January Jones kind of.

He has a boner on camera.

Did you see the boner?

No, there's a moment Greg plitt Rip is working out with this girl and they do a close up of his crotch and she's working out and they say he's hard.

Go back and watch.

I must have just like boner blindness.

I had to rewind it.

Oh.

I was also like, very take it.

This is taking me back.

Whatever's on your shoe that is.

On my shoes.

I don't like that he eroed it like I don't trust his tastebuds.

And ship.

No, I mean I just don't love.

That he Do you want me to take it away from him?

No, I'll take him away from it.

I think, well, listen, I'm getting a free shoeshine.

That's what I have.

People come over and I'm like, my assistant will clean off your shoes for you.

Such a good boy.

He keeps saying, like, there's this crazy there's a dog in this blanket, and I want to play with it.

I know he is yearning her reaction.

Yeah, he's a boner like I.

It's filly there like Penis through the gray sweatpants season vibes.

Wow.

There's also a moment where Peeler's training a woman and he's like making her run on the treadmill and it just eros in on his eyes watching her tips like bounce up and down.

I was like, God, these men are no Higgish.

Well, the first season, Rebecca was always like putting her ass crack in people's face and being like, oh my god, this is my crack out.

What I did love is the woman that Greg was training had the biggest tramp stamp.

I didn't see it, but it was yeah, no, she.

Was like a Celtic cross or something.

Was it relentless?

It was pretty relentless.

Is a Celtic Cross a thing?

Is that a bad thing?

No?

Okay, like a White suprem Yeah.

I got nervous for a second that I misspoke, but it was like it's like kind of I meant like Celtic in style, like a big kind of Gothic cross.

It's not universally that way.

I think a lot of White Supreme might co opt it, Okay, because it is.

It didn't look like a White Supreme Cross.

It looked a little more like stone HENGI.

Another tattoo story, and well then we'll move on.

I have in college.

I was also drunk and I got a lightning bolt tattoo because the guy just put one and it was orange and red.

You know about this?

And I was working on like a gatoring a reality show kind of and she was like this tattoo, this like very much tattooed.

Makeup artist was looking at my tattoo and she was like, oh, TCB huh, And I was like, TCB what tcbhy?

She was like taking care of business.

It's like you know, I see you.

And I was like, what are you talking about?

TCB.

Elvis was connected to like organized crime, and their code word was TCB taking care of business.

And they all had this tattoo that white supremacist.

Now I'll get and it's a lightning bolt that's orange and yellow.

No one.

It has like a one igzag like SA lighting.

It's just a lightning ble.

And and so then as soon as she told me that, I went ahead of filled in.

Well yeah, but like I had that for years someone on sun so random asshole in Sunset gave it to me and my friend in college.

I had it on my body for years.

Anyway, I was like, I'll cut this out.

They make him put his shirt back on.

Craig takes his top off at our gym and Echo Park.

Everybody takes their shirts off whenever they want.

Yeah, I thought that that because every I thought every gym, you could take your shirt off.

I think most of them.

Yeah, this was back in the day though, this is before crossbit.

Yeah, and that's really when that started.

Okay, one runner through every single season, anytime Jackie needs like a B storyline, it's always clothing.

She gives them all her new line of clothing and its merch.

And that bugged me.

This was very like people have just been making their own clothing lines for decades and decades.

Especially on a reality show.

Is whenever a clothing line enters the chat, I check out.

Yeah, they're never what you want them to be.

Like Dret's wedding dresses.

What was that?

Oh yeah those were something I.

Never I wouldn't even acknowledge that.

That was so stupid.

No, it's never.

It never does for me.

I'm trying to rack my brain.

Is iconic?

She buys Chat?

Was it broke the mold?

Yeah?

But like I'm running through, Like Amanda from Summerhouse had her swimsuit line that was just you know, swimsuits, just like cardboard.

There's no brand that has really She brots Chat candy coated nights.

She probably sold a lot of sex toys.

Jovanni is not a Housewife brand.

But clothes thing, specifically.

The Southern Charm pillows.

I walked by that pillow store, I've never been more angry.

Yeah, it's the ugliest fucking shit, so cheap looking, it's disgusting, and it's like it's an insult to everyone's intelligence.

Exulting also that they think that you would waste your money on that.

But I guess people do because it was in a huge space.

I just didn't even know until recently how expensive pillows can get.

Pillows Like it's such a straight douchey thing to make too, Like, oh, let's make pillows because it'll be kind of like gay.

It's like it really is, just let's make pillows because like women won't buy them, right, and they're not even nice pillows.

They're truly the ugliest pillows I've ever seen.

And I've seen some ugly pillows.

I'm scrolling all day.

I will do pillows scrolls for hours at times.

I've gone to the stores and looked at pillows.

I know what a nice pillow looks like, feels like, and these I'm telling you right now if you want to buy, just like if your pillow budget is low.

But I don't even know.

I wouldn't even go in and look, I was so offended.

But I'm telling you, like, I've walked through Walmart and seen better pillows of course.

Yeah, so why would you ever go get this horrible, horrible pillow.

For a piece of Bravo?

I know?

Can I answer really quick?

What do you sleep on?

Pillow?

Wise?

I sleep on down pillows?

Okay, I upgraded.

Yeah, I got a cervical I got my cervix.

Yeah, like I was having neck pain and my chiropectul me to get a certain cervical pillow.

Oh yeah, we can wrap this up.

Rebecca is knocked over by Jackie's vibe.

Did they go to this dinner?

Her vibe is ranted at the dinner it is, and then she's just making out.

I hate them making it out in front of people.

Yeah, like I understand affection, but there's a level of making out that gets like erotic where it's like, yeah, they're doing like your mouth or together for like longer, and you're whispering and tongue licking, and like that's just inappropriate.

You're the boss too, the boss.

You know that she focks a girl in the l Coyote bathroom in season one on them.

Okay, I saw that kind of mention.

This is reminding me too of one of the greatest shows about lesbian's The Real L Word.

Did you ever watch that?

This has come up and it's been suggested that I watch that immediately.

It is.

Canon.

It was so so good.

And one of the couples worked out at Crunch Fitness on Sunset and I used to work out there and I would be in the same workout class with them all the time with Jill, and I was obsessed and I wish I had said something, but I don't think I ever got the balls to say.

It was one of my first sessions, like along with Jersey Shore.

It was such a real outward head I'm.

Going to watch it.

Yeah, and then my friend Alexandra produced it.

Well, she's a fucking genius.

She is no, she is a fucking no.

It was a great, great show.

You know, when I worked out at Crunch in two thousand and one, because I was still kind of in college and I was out here and I worked out at Crunch and I took the kickboxing class and the kickboxing teacher, I don't know if he was on the train tracks or what.

But he stopped, he vaned, he just went away, and I was so mad, and they were like, well whatever, like you just teach it then, like to sass me, And so I did.

I taught the kickbacks class.

I'm not certified, and I taught it for like six weeks and I just did the moves that wait, did you just do it for free?

John?

I love that.

I was obsessed.

I love will you teach?

Then you said, well, then I fucking will and then you did it, and they really you got this.

We have a guy that we don't even have to be.

But I was not trained and I didn't have a certification of any doing the moves.

But you taught it.

Did people take it?

Yes, it's amazing.

I stepped up.

You did step your pissy up.

I did Okay.

Last things sky like clothing, it's just merch.

Greg doesn't want to wear Oh he doesn't want to wear a girl on his gray sweatpants.

They get into a fight.

Check this is right before.

She's a bad attitude.

I'm telling you he doesn't.

And Jackie says, every hot muscle man wants to have an image of a girl in their pants, which I don't know.

If that's true either, But like, just wear the pants.

Who cares, they're free sweatpants.

Yeah, I mean we have the super tees.

It's it's my life, it's my journey.

It looks like things get really they get going.

This season, she goes on a lesbian cruise and Hi Jinks and Sue.

Back to the Dave Matthews Cruise.

I'm worried about Jackie's relationship with that it won't stay in the test of time.

I was a little bit throwing up a red flag, like we moved in the same night as our first date.

Well, we started the entire series with someone named Mimi, who was a twenty six year old Brazilian and they she had a like a volatile relationship, and she would bite jack She kept she wouldn't stop biting Jackie.

Like during sex or just in life.

When they would argue, she would bite her and she would bite her heart and it would make Jackie matt And then she slapped jack across the face and then throw a drink.

Atter a spitfire.

So Jackie is in an abusive relationship.

Jackie seems to not be looking for peace in her relationships.

Would some say that Jackie is her own worst enemy at times.

Yeah, okay, I think so.

But also Jackie also, I think she also kind of kills it's she makes a ton of money, then she loses a ton of money.

She makes she's like I've made a million dollars.

She's on fire, like she's a girl boss.

She is a good And think about how hard that must have been.

She was thirty eight when this show started.

And to have got that real estate, started that business and landed a documentary series about it is like a lot.

It's a lot.

And also just to have to manage that many employees and like run a business that's very like client facing and social is difficult.

There was no social media back there, which which is interesting.

I think the show would have been very different had they been reading about themselves while shooting.

Yeah.

No, this is like, this has the purity of no social media.

In one there was no iPhone.

It didn't even exist.

I love that, Larmie Shane Hols, thank you so much.

This was epic.

This is sorry I said fifteen minutes, but it's a long talk.

I'm sorry.

No, that's okay.

I loved Are you kidding?

I love to Yeah, and I love you too.

I love you so much.

Thank you for having me listen to us up, Listen to us.

Up or watched up.

I like watching it, watch listen, just get in on it.

Get because it's a fun time.

Yeah, once you've.

Watchedon, I'm joining substack and I got in trouble with Patreon.

I tell you why because I was showing too much vpl like Greg Plitt.

Why.

I had a tier of people like who would pay a lot of money to like just like see like underwear.

You're not allowed to show underwear.

They like were shady to me about it.

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