Mehdi Hasan's recent Jubilee appearance has blown up—and so has criticism of the entire media operation. Derek and Julian discuss the value and pitfalls of this format, contrasting the far-right participants sitting across from Hasan from another recent episode, when atheists went to battle with Jordan Peterson.

Show Notes

1 Progressive vs 20 Far-Right Conservatives (ft. Mehdi Hasan)

Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists

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