Episode Transcript
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
Speaker 2I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective.
Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.
Hey, rain drops on today's episode Reality with the King.
We're doing our Soulful Sunday special and my first guest on my new series is somebody who I have watched for many many years.
He not only is a faith based man, he is a powerhouse executive in Hollywood, but he's also like a very nice person, a cool person, and we are here to talk about his new film, his new projects, in addition to how faith has manifested into everything he has going on today, his cup run it over, give it up for the One the Only Demon Franklin.
Thank you man, glad to be here.
We haven't seen each other in a little wild minute.
You look refreshed, you look great.
You've been in the gym a little bit.
You know what I'm saying, You know, I.
Speaker 1Mean how much you bench pressing?
Brother?
Speaker 3Like, you know what, I don't even know.
I haven't really tested a while.
I mean, my max I think is like two ninety five.
That was like one rep.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, so you know, and I don't do that all the time.
Speaker 1You want to hear my max?
What's your max?
Ninety five?
Come on, Carlo, get your point.
You don't trying to.
But that's all I got.
Speaker 2But now listen, I am so grateful to have you sitting here.
You're a busy guy.
And one thing that I don't think a lot of people really do was the fact that I used to watch your sermons all the time online and when I moved to Los Angeles when one church at the time was of course passed by Terrey Roberts and his lovely wife, you know, pastor Sarah Jakes Roberts.
Speaker 1You would sometimes be a guest on there.
Speaker 2And you have no idea, sir, how your words, oh brother, your words of how you applied faith in Hollywood, which some people may look at as being like oil and water they mix.
And you inspired me so much because I remember you telling a story about how you got this job.
I believe it was at Sony or it was at Will Smith's Company and you honor the Sabbath.
Speaker 1Yes, that was it Will Smith's, Will Smith's.
Speaker 2Company Overbrooke Entertainment, and you were so nervous because you were like, I.
Speaker 1Won't get fired, yah, and I get hired.
Speaker 2Talk to me about that story because the reason why I want to start there, and we'll get into your recent projects, is because I want my audience to know how you never allowed your business ambition to ever take over your faith.
Speaker 1Yes, yes, yes, you know.
Speaker 3So for me, you know, it's like I came to Hollywood, or at least I had the vision to go to Hollywood and the dream to be in Hollywood when I was a teenager, and it was just you know, my father died when I was nine years old of a heart attack when he was thirty six, and yeah, I know, me's so young, and it was my mom didn't have money for therapy, so it was a combination of watching movies and going to church that really became my therapy.
Speaker 1And that combination was just so powerful to me.
Speaker 3I just was like, Wow, I really want to be a part of this industry that you know, makes these movies that can bring hope and can bring you know.
Speaker 1A sense of peace.
And so that's what I pursued.
Speaker 3Now, my pursuit was always financed by my belief that or my curiosity if God was actually in it.
Sometimes we have an idea and we don't know if God's in it.
Maybe it's just our idea and the only way to find out is to get confirmation.
And so I went to Los Angeles, went to the University of Southern California, and when I got that first internship interview, which was for the company that managed Will Smith, they asked me at the end of the interview, is there anything else you want us to know?
And so I told him, I said, well, look, you know, I observed the Sabbath, so of taking this internship would require me to work on the Sabbath, I won't take it.
Speaker 1Now.
At the time, I wasn't even it wasn't even like a thought to me.
Speaker 3It was just like, this is my conviction and I'm not going to compromise this for this opportunity.
And what happened inadvertently was one they said, okay, no problem.
But what it also did was it gave me confirmation like, Okay, I can honor God and still pursue this career and he will open doors instead of Sometimes we think that compromise is the key that opens the door.
And yes, compromise can open a door.
The question is where you supposed to walk to that door to begin with.
And when we don't compromise on whatever our belief may be, whatever our conviction about how who we are and how we work, when we don't compromise that and the door still opens, then we know that's a door that is meant for us to walk through.
But if we know that we had to compromise who we were, compromise our belief system, compromise our identity to get in the door, is that really God or is that us?
And for me as it related to Hollywood, you know, not compromising and being a man of conviction was the key that unlocked the door.
And the interesting thing about Hollywood is that just staying that path And now, I mean I got my internship about thirty years ago, so you know, just staying the path, doors just continue to open.
And you know, as long as I'm adhering to who I am and my foundation And the other thing I would say is you can only be tempted by what you want.
So temptation is not in my experience and my point of view, it's not a general thing, because what may be tempting to you is not tempting to me.
Speaker 1Right if, right now, you.
Speaker 3Know, one of your producers comes in and brings a piece of seven up pound cake.
If you don't like pound cake, that's not tempting.
But if I'm going to die and I love pound cake, that's tempting.
So for me, I've never wanted the business or the success of in entertainment to be at the expense of my soul, at the expense of my peace.
So as a result, that's never been a temptation for me.
Now, my own ambition at times has been a thing where I've had to manage it.
Where I want to be successful for myself.
I want to be the best version of myself, and sometimes, you know, we get impatient, and I've gotten impatient at times, and I've had to calm down.
But in terms of like just wanting the business or entertainment for entertainment's sake, that's just never been something I've wanted.
So as a result, the industry in and of itself has not presented that level of temptation.
Speaker 2That's very fascinating to me because listen, when you are in Hollywood, and.
Speaker 1OK, thank you so much, welcome when you're in Hollywood.
Speaker 2I think the biggest perception that people have, obviously the Vaughn, is the fact of like you know, life, camera action, the gliss and the glamor.
And they also think of other things that people may think of sin right where it's alcoholism, addiction and all those things.
Were you ever in a situation as you were growing up in this business, because a lot of my listeners are people in the business that you were faced with your moral compass being compromised?
Speaker 1You know where my moral compass was come from?
You know where that was a question?
Speaker 3Not in the traditional sense, you know what I mean, Like, I've never been in a situation where fundamentally you know who I am and what I'm about has been challenged in that way.
You know, there have been situations like so, for example, when I was an executive for Columbia Pictures, which is a division of Sony Pictures Entertainment.
I was there for about ten years, worked on everything from Pursuit of Happiness all the way to Jumping the Broom and the Karate Kid remake.
Speaker 1And Heaven Is for Real.
Speaker 3And while I was there, you know, there was a project that they wanted me to work on, and I was like, well, no, I don't believe in this project.
Speaker 1I don't believe in these portrayals.
Speaker 3If I have an opportunity to give notes and help improve these portrayals, then great, I'm happy to be a part of it.
But you know, on the excuse me, on the surface, no, I said, this is not something that aligns with who I am.
It's not something that I believe in.
And I was pretty honest about that, you know, and they were like, okay, no problem, you know, and they found some other executives to work on it, because, you know, you really, from a Hollywood studio standpoint, do you want people that believe in the material to work on the material because they know how to push that material along and ultimately it made.
But no, I really haven't had that kind of you know, moral dilemma that has been presented to me in my journey.
And I know that might, you know, sound kind of crazy that that hasn't happened, but it just hasn't.
It's just, you know, I've been following the path, staying on the path, committing to the process, and this is where the process has led me.
And I think also, what sometimes I think has happened in my career is being upfront about just like, hey, this is who i'm, this is who I.
Speaker 1Am, this is what I'm about.
Speaker 3I think it keeps things out, you know, and it also then allows things in that align with that.
And so I think there's something about me just being very clear from the beginning that you know, I don't know any people just know that, and so as a result, certain things aren't even broad you know, certain certain opportunities or experiences aren't.
Speaker 1Even presented, you know.
Speaker 3But yeah, sometimes I look back, say, wow, that's interesting that I know I haven't experienced what you may traditionally think a quote unquote mortal moral dilemma would be.
Speaker 2No, I can relate to you when it comes to that, and I agree with you, because when you show up authentically, you know, there's this saying that if you're not invited to the party, it is because you're not meant to be there, because they know you don't get down like that.
Speaker 1There it is right, So I agree with you.
Speaker 2I think it was the fact that you and listen, I don't want people to really negate the power of your self that you have as somebody who said, if I'm not able to honor the Sabbath, I can't take this job, you know, because some people say, well, they got to know that I do that, you know, sort of like hide it.
But it was the fact that you allowed your authenticity to be shown first and foremost.
And I think that's the reason why God, amongst other reasons, has blessed you so fruthfully in your purpose, in your mission.
One of the movies you've done recently, I want to say it was last year, was on Hulu with Evil Long or Blame It Not Devn Franklin, And if you guys haven't watched Flame Hot, it's an amazing story about this man who pretty much started Cheetos, you know, Cheetos, And it's an amazing story on faith, is an amazing story on what I always believe, Devon is God gives you the vision and sometimes the vision no one else can see.
And the reason why I have studied a lot of your sermons over the years is because I always felt that outside of you, and you know pastor Terrain Silver Jakes, I always felt that there wasn't somebody who understood what it's like to be a faith based man in this business because sometimes you're put into situations where people want you to behave a certain way or act out a certain way, and most importantly may not just understand your desires.
Because tell this day, my father has no idea what is that I do.
He's like, I see my son on TV and I'm happy he's.
Speaker 1Living right, right, right right.
Speaker 2But your practices has always felt that you were informing generations of utilizing your faith for what that mission may be.
And that's why I flame my Hosts to Me is one of the best, one of the best films you've ever done.
Speaker 1Thank you talk to me about advice.
Speaker 2That you would give people who do want to whether it's in Hollywood or it can be any place in the world when it comes to the fact that they sometimes feel like.
Speaker 1Did God forget about me?
Speaker 2No one understands me, No one gets my vision, no one understands my mission.
Speaker 1Is it meant for me to pivot to something else?
Speaker 2Or is it meant for me to be steadfast and to make sure that I continue to develop the relationship with God so that I'm hearing his voice versus the noise of the background.
Speaker 3M hmm.
Yeah, okay, So let's unpack it.
So when you think about like okay, having a dream of desire, working towards it, but not seeing the fulfillment of it.
So what happens is God gives us, I believe, an idea of what we're supposed to do, glimpses.
We may not see the whole picture, but we see glimpses.
Okay, this is I see, you know, for me, I see myself working in this business.
So God gives the vision, and then what happens is the temptation and many of us fall pray to it.
I know I have at times is believing that we have to make the vision happen, and that we own the timetable for the vision happening.
And so when we're trying to make it happen, and when we feel like, Okay, well I've been doing this for five years and it hasn't turned over yet, or I've been doing this for ten years, well God looks at eternity and he's like, well, what's time Your ten years is just a blip on the radar, and I'm God, so I know when it's meant for you to unleash or become who I created you to be in the earth.
So part of the steadfastness is taking the ownership off of the manifestation and and and the timeline for such.
So you look at even like you know, let's go to the Bible.
You look at David.
He was annoyed to king to be the next king.
He didn't go sit on the throne.
He went right back to tending the sheep.
There was that in the Bible.
There was there was no record.
There was no conversation after that.
And after he was a noiady to be next to be the next king, there was no conversation.
But he never said well when am I going to be king?
That wasn't even the focus.
His focus was how can I be of service?
And him his desire to be of service put him on a path that ushered in him ultimately ultimately being the next king.
Why is that important?
Because so often we put so much energy and effort into forcing this dream to come to fruition that we don't have control over.
I started working in Holley when I was eighteen.
I knew at eighteen years old that I wanted to have my own production company.
It took eighteen years before I was able to open my company.
Eighteen years of showing up, being you know, teachable, learning the business, building my character, building my integrity.
So by the time that I, you know, it was, it was manifest.
By the time the dream happened, I was able to handle it.
So I share all that to say, if somebody is in a season of impatience, I would say, don't do that to yourself.
When do you know to pivot?
You may never need to pivot.
Do what you need to do to keep the lights on, pay the bills.
But if you have a dream, keep pursuing it, keep working at it.
Why not and guess what what if it never happens, If you've made the commitment to be of service and to have a great life, you will have a great life.
And maybe you say, okay, well that's a dream that you know.
I had fun working on it, but it never turned out to be what I thought it was going to be.
And that's okay, because here's what I did with my life.
And so for me, it's really about that perspective.
You know, at times when things were not moving at the pace I wanted, I had to find other things to really give me outlets for creativity.
So when I was working, you know, as an executive, you know, it's like, Okay, that executive path isn't necessarily.
Speaker 1A fast path.
Speaker 3It's you know, it's a steadfast, fast path where you just have to take your time and you know, you have to wait your turn and all of these things.
And so for me, what I didn't want to do is I didn't want to put all of my joy in my happiness in the Hollywood basket.
I believe that God was going to deliver the company at some point, but at the time when I was an executive, I didn't know when.
Speaker 1But I also knew that if I put all my.
Speaker 3Happiness in this job and in this industry, I'm not going to be very happy because then my happiness is going to be subject to what happens and what doesn't happen.
And then that means I'm not actually the keeper of my happiness.
I'm actually outsourcing my happiness to circumstances and situations and people that what about on Monday they loved me, but Tuesday they hate me.
If my happiness is contingent on them, then I'm never really going to be happy.
So what I started to do was to find while I'm still working, still doing the job, still learning how to tell great stories, I started to do other things.
One of those things was preaching.
I was like, Okay, preaching is a good outlet for me.
It's a good outlet.
I can express myself, I can express my creativity.
I can help people, you know, it was great.
Okay, writing books, okay, great, I can write books.
I can you know, help, I can give advice.
Those were things that God allowed me to have the opportunity to do while I stayed committed to what I believed he was going to do.
So I would encourage anyone that is, you know, struggling or wondering should I pivot?
Speaker 1Should I not?
Speaker 3I would say, the dream was never meant to depress you.
That's not the design.
Speaker 1Of the dream.
The dream was never meant It.
Speaker 3Was never meant to depress you.
If anything, the dream was meant to excite you.
That God gave us that should be a source of excitement.
Speaker 2Oh wow, And that's when you can identify you on the right path exactly because it's like, oh, this is exciting.
Speaker 3I mean not be exactly where I want to be, but I'm learning, I'm making progress.
This is exciting.
Every time I think about it, I get excited.
To me, when we think of the dream and we get depressed, it's because we're putting too much on the dream we are in.
We're imposing our will on that dream.
Let that dream be what it is, a source of vision, a source of excitement, a source of direction.
Speaker 1And enjoy the.
Speaker 3Process because ultimately the process is the result.
Meaning you can get to a result, but if you didn't enjoy the process, you're not going to enjoy the result.
You have a you know, dynamic production company, and you know your you know, dynamic talent, and have the podcast and all of the things.
But leading up to that, if you didn't find peace, enjoy in the process, you get to this moment and then this moment you can't enjoy any of it because you and you weren't practicing that.
And if you think the destination is going to be the source of fulfillment, then what happens is when you get to that destination and it doesn't fulfill you the way you thought it would, you then you don't know what to do because you're like, I've struggled, I've given all my life for this, and I thought this was going to produce this feeling and I got this and it didn't.
Why Because the feeling, the practice of that good feeling is something that we got to work on right now.
Doesn't matter how much money you got into bank account, it doesn't matter what kind of job you got.
All of us have happiness, love and enjoy within us right now.
How do I know?
Because right now, if somebody listening, and let's say someone came to somebody watching this as they're watching it and say, hey, here's a check for a million dollars, what's going to happen?
Speaker 1That person is probably gonna be very happy?
Well, where'd the.
Speaker 3Happiness come from?
What is in the Was it in the check or was it in our response?
If it's within our response, that means it's already within us.
So then we are the ones that determine when we produce happiness and when we produce joy, and when we produce fulfillment.
So my belief is work on producing that right now, because the more you find your joy in whatever you're doing, the more joyful the process and the more joyful the result.
So anyway, it's a long ends zero question.
I mean, Listen's sen I need a collection plate because.
Speaker 1I mean give me the cash apt to tie my temple.
Speaker 2You know, you do talk about service, and that's the reason why I'm so happy for you.
You have a multi year deal with Tyler Perry.
Yes, some who's a friend of mine as well.
And one thing I know about mister Perry because he said to me, you call me mister Perry, and I'll tell you to call me Tyler.
So, mister Perry, I'm waiting for you to give me.
I call you by your first name, so I won't tell you.
Give me the permission what you're able to call him Tyler.
You are of service to not only the industry.
What I love about the partnership to me is the fact that it shows that two powerhouses can work together on the common goal of producing movies and television.
You have a new film that is coming out tomorrow called Ruth and Boas And what in case there's somebody who has not read their Bible, explain to us the story of them and what we can expect from this film.
Speaker 3Well, I'll start with the expectation this film is going to be your new favorite love story.
It is so good.
Felicia Rashad is in it.
She plays the kind of matriarchal character called Naomi.
Ruth is played by Sorea and Boas is played by Tyler Lepley.
And when you see these two on screen, it is nothing but pure magic.
And the story is really about Ruth.
You know Ruth if you go back to the scripture, you know she's a woman who's lost her mate and she goes on a journey back to the.
Speaker 1Homeland of Naomi.
Speaker 3And Naomi originally is like, no, I don't want you to come with me, but Ruth says, no, I'm supposed to help you.
And so she goes back to her homeland and Ruth has to find a way to provide for her in Naomi, and so she goes out to get a job and she finds herself working in the field that is owned by Boaz and because of her work ethic, he takes notice of her and then he starts to get to know her.
And the thing about Ruth in our film is that she comes from a very difficult background.
You know, she was put in the foster system.
Her mom abandoned her when she was a young child.
She was in the foster system.
She was bounced around a lot.
She you know, had a voice, and so she found herself on the Atlanta music scene.
But there was something in her spirit that did not resonate, and she felt like every time she led someone in to her heart, there was always a tragedy or something difficult that happened.
So when she meets Boaz in our film, she's just there to work.
She's working in his vineyard.
She's just there to work and go on about her business.
But he sees a light in her and he wants to get to know who she is.
But initially she's very resistant because she doesn't know she can trust it.
There's something about him that just seems too good.
And over the course of the film you start to see her let down her walls and him also find a safe space in her.
And then there's a you know, there's some dynamic where her past comes to haunt her and her and Boaz had to figure out how they're going to deal with it.
Speaker 1But this is a story that is rooted in the word.
Speaker 3The Book of Ruth, you know, is one of the most you know, famous books in the Bible, and this story has stood the test of time.
Because what I find so beautiful about the story, which is why I wanted to make this movie.
There's a lot of people, you know, are out here looking for love.
And when I looked at the story, I said, Oh, this is fascinating.
Whenever we talk about Ruth or Boaz, you know, in the church, it's like, oh, go find your Boaz, like that is like every black church in the country, you know.
But the thing about this is Ruth nor Boaz went looking for love.
Speaker 1That's not what happened.
Speaker 3Ruth made a commitment to Naomi to be of service, and as she fulfilled that commitment, the reward was her being blessed with love.
Boas wasn't looking for love.
He was there trying to be a good steward over the blessing that God had given him in the form of the fields and the things that he owned, and right there he didn't have.
Speaker 1To go looking.
God brought her to him.
Speaker 3So when you see this movie, you see two people that the only thing they have to do is to be open to love.
Speaker 1They don't have to look for love.
Speaker 3And I wanted to do a movie with this kind of message because I see so many people that are depressed and frustrating and angry and just wondering, you know, when's my turn and why not me?
And what I realize is that when you're looking for something, you enhance the absence of it instead of living in the presence of it.
Okay, you don't have to have a looking spirit, have a receiving spirit, be ready to receive love however it chooses to arise.
However, what I would encourage someone to not do, and you'll see this in the film, is, you know, don't stop living your life.
You know, don't stop find out what is the greater good for you and commit to that, commit to being of service, commit to finding the value in your life.
Enrich your life right now through commitment and service.
And I believe that when we do that, when love does show up, we actually actually have more to give and we don't overburden the relationship by trying to get that person we're in relationship with to do something for ourselves that we don't do.
So if I'm looking for love and I find you know, my wife Maria, if I find her, let's say before like, you know, what I get I find her, and I'm not practicing loving myself, I'm not practicing contentment.
Then what I'm gonna do is I'm a demand that she does all the things that I need her to do for me to feel happy.
Why because I'm the one that hasn't done the work to know what happiness even looks like.
So a lot of times we're out here trying to find someone and then we find that person and we don't actually even know what it is.
We think it's their job to make us happy.
No, happiness is inside job.
And so when you see this film, both of them have to take ownership of that happiness and that love, and then when they come together, they have something to share.
And that, to me is when people see this film.
What I'm excited about is that it shows it in such a beautiful, tender, loving way, in a way that I haven't seen in a love story in our culture in a very long time.
Speaker 2Well, I definitely believe in God's timing, and that's why I want you all to watch Ruth and boas that's on Netflix.
One thing I will say is in regards of God's timing, you do speak about Maria, your wife, and first of all, I havn't senior since you got married, So congratulations, Thank the Internet with the photos.
My audience is largely women from all walks of life.
Who what you said about this love story Ruth and Boas is about loving yourself first before you can really go out there looking for love.
We all know about a seer a prayer she found Russ.
Okay, I want to know what is the Divonne Franklin prayer?
Because for you, you were able to find you know, love this time around.
And when you speak of Ma Maria and all the things that she provides in your life, your face lights up.
So for those who may have gone through, you know, a divorce or breakup of anything, what advice or.
Speaker 1Prayer I should say?
Yeah?
Speaker 2Should we tell ourselves in terms of being in a place to receive that.
Oftentimes what people do, unfortunately divine, is they rush into something or they're desperate to get it.
And when I look at you, you you were a man who was able to take his time in and was able to you know, find love.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, you know there's a scripture that says created me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within.
Speaker 1And when you're going.
Speaker 3Through something or you've been through something you just have to pause and acknowledge is what you went through.
You know, right now, if you walk out on the street and we're in New York and a car hits you, and you get up from the scene of that that accident, and you know your leg is bloody, and you know maybe you even have a broken bone, and you start trying to walk down the street as if nothing's wrong, people gonna look at you like you're crazy.
We saw you got hit.
Well, I don't want to I don't want anybody to know.
No, we all saw it.
It's okay you you can acknowledge that you're hurt, because when you acknowledge that you're hurt, you can then actually get healing.
But if you are walking like nothing's wrong and then you're just trying to rush down the street, what's going to happen.
Your injury is gonna get worse.
So when it comes to relationships, when it comes to heartbreak, we first just have to say it happened, and it hurt, and and and sit in that pain, sit in it for a moment, and say, wow, that really Because what we want to do is to rush.
Something happens and we don't want we don't want to feel it, we don't want nobody know we felt it.
But then we don't actually get the benefit it could provide if we allowed it to teach us something.
So sitting in that pain, you know when I say, creating me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within, Lord, help me understand what I can take from this pain.
What does this pain want to teach me?
So then the other part of this was sitting in it.
Part of the prayer was that, okay, Lord, give me the ability to learn what I need to know from this.
And then the other part is, okay, Lord, the prayer is the same grace in space that you give all of us.
Lord, Please give me the strength to give that to myself.
When I say grace in space, I mean hey, grace to say, Hey, I'm hurt and I need the grace from God to help me figure out how to move forward and the space for myself to heal so that I'm not you know, saying Okay, well, I've got to go back out here and I've got to present this image and I've got to do this, and I've got to do that because people are expecting this and da dah da da dah.
And I have this image and I need to hold the image.
And so uh uh no, that's a very's that's very tight.
That's a very suffocating place to live versus space.
Like, hey, you know what, Hey, people are going to think what they want to think.
I'm not worried about their thoughts.
I'm not trying to manipulate or manufacture anyone's opinion about me.
I'm going through a process where I've got a heal from what I just went through.
And in that process of healing, and and part of healing is introspection and and and looking within, you know.
Speaker 1I mean, I have therapists.
Speaker 3And life coaches and you know, journal and wrote, I mean, and prayed and studied the world.
I did so many things and continue to do these things as it relates to my healing journey.
Yet as I did these things, you know, the prayer was God truly creating me a clean heart, a new heart, like renew a right spirit within me, you know, Like I don't want my heart to be hardened.
I want my heart to stay open.
I want to learn from this.
I want to become better.
I want to become a better individual, a better you know, human being, more loving, more understanding, more compassionate.
And as I prayed that prayer and as I align my actions with it, what began to happen is the prayers started to get answered.
Right, And so meeting Maria wasn't the answer to the prayer.
It was it was an extension of what God was already doing.
So I had started the prayer, you know, years ago, as I was trying to put the pieces of my life back together, and then God would continuously give me answers like, Okay, here's how you're going to feel stronger today.
Speaker 1Here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3And then when Maria shows up, going back to what we even talked about earlier, because I had already been practicing that joy, that love, that healing, that commitment to the process, that space and that grace, Maria shows up and I'm like, oh, okay, this is time because it was consistent with the process that started years before I even ever knew she existed.
And so for me, you know, when you talk about, you know, the prayer, the prayer is really about the work, you know, and the work is not a burden.
It's not a burden, but it does require effort.
It does require a lot of effort, you know, because one of the things we don't like to do.
We like to take selfies, but we don't like to look at each other look at ourselves.
We like to take a selfie, but we really don't like to look at ourselves.
And when I say look at ourselves, I'm talking about we don't like to look in the emotional mirror and identify what's going on.
It's very easy for us to point the finger and say, well, it's their fault, or if my boss had been this way, or my mama I have been that.
We love to point the finger, but pointing the finger points it away from what we actually have control of, which is us coming through what I went through.
The only person I could change was me.
So I instead of pointing the finger and saying, well, you know, this person didn't do that, and that person didn't do this.
Okay, that may be true, but Devin, what you're gonna do, and allowing myself to look at myself and identify, here's what I did wrong, Here's what I could have done better.
Here are some areas and opportunities for growth without judgment.
Instead of judgment, myself how could you be so stupid?
No, no, no, We all around this journey called life.
We do the best we can, but what we know when we know it, and sometimes we're gonna look back and say, oh, well I didn't know what I know now, so I did the best I could at that moment.
So why judge myself?
Why judge yourself?
We all go through experiences and have mistakes and things that we wish we would have done different, but then we didn't and we get.
Speaker 1A chance to learn from it.
Speaker 3So you know, that was in so many different words, that was the prayer, you know, creating me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me.
And I feel grateful that he has done that and continues to do it.
Speaker 1I mean, I can't even thank you enough for that.
Speaker 2I mean, the words of wisdom and listen, like I said, I know my audience and your words that you have blessed us with is going to change their lives because the articulation of not only the wisdom, but the spirituality that was felt in this room, you know, from God through you to me and subsequently to them has really manifested a breakthrough.
So I can't thank you, and it really has.
It really has, and I can't thank you enough or for being here.
I know you're a busy guy, So rain Dross, make sure to go on your Netflix, don't go on your auntie's app, don't log in through her app.
We need to make sure this is number one okay on Netflix, So spend the twelve ninety nine if you may, and make sure you all check out Ruth and Boaz that is out on Friday.
Speaker 1Thank you so much to offer.
You're welcome.
Thank you, my brother truly appreciate you.
Speaker 2Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
Speaker 1With the Lack Effect Network.
Speaker 2You can also find us on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore