As if technology couldn't get crazier with AI robotics whatnot.

Now we're hearing that the in development right now is a robot and this is not fake news.

This is this is in development a robot that could actually carry a baby in a womb from feed us to birth.

We had to unpack this.

We'll do that right now.

You were like full Tennessee.

Now, like you got the shirt on, you got the classic white brick in the background that is like a Nashville house has white brick on it.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's it's kind of it's kind of everywhere, and we're really liking it.

The beard's coming in nice and full, no patchy spots.

I don't know.

I don't know if it's if if it's the Hattie Bee's chicken, or if it's the whiskey.

But it's all coming in nice and full.

Now.

I was gonna ask if you had Loveless biscuits for breakfast this morning, that would that would complete it.

Have you been in Loveless cafe yet?

Oh?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh yeah, that's that's great.

Over there, there's so many good places.

I mean, I want to get fat moved to the South.

Yeah, so right.

I used to live in Nashville.

Yeah, yeah, you do you have a Do you have a fire pit?

Like?

Will we get to see some cur with the Bible around the fire pit one of these days?

Of course.

I mean, you know, I didn't learn how to how to burn my trash until I came to the South.

We can't do that in California, but here, you know, Uh, it's all it's how it's how we keep warm in the winter.

We uh, we do have a fire pit, and and I love sitting around it.

I love when my family comes over for Sunday night dinners.

We're so fortunate, Grange.

We moved from California when all of our children became adults and moved out of the house, and they went to all these different states.

Well a couple of them were in Tennessee, and my wife and I didn't want to be, you know, away from our kids, so we moved to Tennessee.

And then all of the other kids felt like they were really missing out.

And so now all of them are here and we have Sunday night family dinners every week.

So we're so thankful, we're so blessed.

We love it.

That is amazing.

Sunday night dinners.

Yeah.

When I was on tour, that was something I just couldn't do.

So yeah, having that, having that camaraderie, that that that family dynamic, using Sunday the rest days, it's a wonderful thing.

Yeah, I'm happy for you.

Well, thank you.

And as we're recording this, Lord Willing, I think I'm going to see you in a month or so Amber is going to come out there.

We're going to be on your show.

Right, soah, I can't.

Your neck in person.

You know something I don't know about you is I don't know the story of you being locked out of the library.

What is the deal with that?

Yeah?

So well this was maybe three Christmases ago.

I wrote a children's book about the fruit of the Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self control.

And I wanted to read it in public libraries like a story hour for children.

And there were others who were already doing this, like drag queens, and I was denied by over fifty woke libraries that previously held drag queen story hours for children.

So if you want to be a dude in a beard with a dress and read inappropriate stuff you can.

You can go to a lot of these libraries, but if you want to be a Christian and talk about faith, hope and love, it's a hard no.

I went to some friends at Fox News and other places, and I think it was after one or two of them had sort of allowed me to tell the story that these libraries reversed course sent a link to an invitation to come back to their library.

But they told us already that they weren't interested, that nobody would show up.

They didn't want my messaging, was their words.

But when we did show up, we were greeted by three thousand parents and grandparents at the very first library in downtown Indianapolis.

In fact, they said it was the largest event that they had had since the opening of the library one hundred years ago, and that this was really indicative of a wide spread movement of parents who were disgusted by the values that are being forced down their throats and in their communities, particularly big cities, and they want to get back to the values that lead to their children's blessing and protection.

Well, that spread.

We went to DC, Los Angeles, Seattle, San Francisco, and all these places.

I wrote a couple more books, and then that eventually turned into hundreds and hundre of libraries being adopted by people at the grassroots level and doing the same thing.

Then we turned it into a national day called See You at the Library, which it involved hundreds of libraries, tens of thousands of people in all fifty states.

And this last weekend we went from being locked out of libraries to being invited by the Trump administration and the Department of Education to the largest library in the world, the Library of Congress, the ultimate library to tell our children about the truth about faith, about courage, and about patriotism.

And we actually had an absolutely amazing time.

And the pictures speak for themselves.

This was families gathering across the country to sing songs of praise and patriotism, to pray, and to read stories of virtue to children.

This is what happens when the family of faith doesn't back down.

It's incredible.

So if you send me some of those pictures, we'd love to put them up as you're talking so other people could see that.

Yeah, I'm so curious, and you know, obviously I kind of know the answer, but what is it?

At the very beginning, you have this book on the fruits of the spirit.

What could people be against that?

What reason could you go against speaking that logical?

It's not that rational.

I don't think they even read the book.

I even offered to send them free copies of the book.

They weren't interested.

They I don't think they even ever read them.

If they had, they would realize that the overt messages towards Christ or God are not even in the story itself.

Their references to Scripture in the very back of the book for the family activities.

So the book itself wouldn't be offensive to them on the face of it, But it's I think more what the author represents.

So it's me.

It's a white, heterosexual Christian male who wants to go into the public square and advance a different narrative than the Purple Hair Platoon.

The Rainbow Mafia wants to indoctrinate the little children.

And so instead of being truly inclusive and diverse with messaging, these extreme library leaders basically just you know, they're the gatekeepers and they say no to guys like you and me.

You don't know this yet.

We have an email that ant man who you cannot see on camera here, he's got an email already, don't read it yet.

This is gonna be great.

Yeah, that's gonna be great.

I can't wait to get considering where this is going.

Yeah, you're right, you're right.

There is not logic in that.

It's more so the messenger.

And you are an ambassador for Christ.

Yeah.

And so those that hate him will hate his messengers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And and I don't, I don't.

I don't blame them for sort of you know, turning their nose up at me, particularly if I represent the very things that are the antithesis to what they want to demonstrate.

But they have to remember this.

This was not leftist, communist, socialist ideas that gave them the constitutional right to have freedom of speech and freedom of their religion, even if it's secular humanism.

It was a Christian nation with Christian founding principles coming out of the scriptures that actually produce these types of rights and these types of governments, where it's representative government for the people, by the people.

And when you play by those rules, then guys like me do get to show up.

In fact, it's it's it's illegal, it's against the constitution, it's and it's the most distasteful kind because it violates religious liberty, which, of course, they don't want to live in a country it does that.

If they did, you know, many of us would buy a one way ticket for them to China or to North Korea and they could live in places like that.

But they want to be here standing on Christian values and American principles while undermining the republic and true religion itself.

Yeah, that's fascinating.

Calling you narrow minded right when they can't open their mind enough to have you speak about the fruits of the spirit.

That's right.

And calling themselves so inclusive that they just can't tolerate a guy like me really reveals the absurdity of the argument.

All of us want to filter out bad stuff, and so it really just comes down to not whether or not you discriminate against ideas, It's just what ideas do you want to discriminate against?

Right, I mean, not all ideas are good, clearly we know that, and they think so, and I think so.

But I believe that the choice ought not to be between the left or the right.

There are some who would would want to force us to make that choice.

I think the real choice is between up or down, and we either go up to the values and principles of heaven that are that are manifest in the laws that we find in the Constitution and the values that undermine them, or we go down back to socialism, communism, fascism, dictatorship, whatever the whatever, the form of government that is essentially, you know, you bow down to the king, to the dictator, to the samurai, to the showgun, to the prince, to the king, and they are above the law.

We are then their their their subjects.

But we don't have subjects in America.

We are citizens.

Citizens literally means co kings.

This is a government where the sovereign in America is we the people.

We are the leaders.

The government is not our leaders.

They are our representatives and they're there to represent the leaders who is you and me, moms and dads, and then we need to hold them accountable.

And this is why I like congregationalism for in our church polity.

You know, that's different, that's a different topic.

That's yeah, that's a whole different topics.

But that's super interesting too.

So, Kirk, did any of this influence your move to Tennessee from your beautiful home state of California?

Not not primarily.

I mean I could, I could, I could make a story out of that, but but no, it was primarily we want to be near our children.

I don't want.

I mean, we're family people.

We had six kids and now we've got a granddaughter.

I don't I don't want to be living a thousand or fifteen hundred miles away from our kids.

We want to be doing what we're doing now, which is be together.

So I don't want to see all the good people abandoned California and a banker in New York, although many Californians and New Yorkers are here in Tennessee.

I want to see us make a strategic retreat to a place like this where we can learn how to build community around faith and moral courage, and then go back to those places and see if we can't spark revival in the hearts and minds of Californias and see her turn around again.

You know she she has an amazing history of Christians.

I mean, you think of all of the cities there.

We've got all the Saints and the Angels, Los Angeles City of the Angels, Santa Barbara, San Jose, San Miguel, these are all sat Saints and father Sarah and others who you know blaze the Oregon Trail and made it back there the Whitman's there's amazing history, but we have lost it, and we've lost it on our watch, and our children are going to pay the price.

So let's turn it around.

I love California and many people listening right now are from Afformula.

There are so many people that feel abandoned because they are the silent majority there, and so yeah, it's you know, it's some of my favorite in New York.

You can say the same thing about New York.

They you get, you get kind of pigeonholed because of the cities.

But but there are so many people there that just don't align with the views of the people in the city there.

Yeah, that's true.

And and when when when we've gone to those those libraries and people feel like they can show up, they say thank you for coming, because people think we don't want to see you here anymore.

But that's not true.

That that's the voice that goes out for the rest of us are are shaking our heads, but we're being silenced here and they're afraid of the blowback.

But when.

You know, now you go to these places and people are coming out of the woodwork.

There is a new courage that that is infectious.

And I'm really excited to see that.

And and and it couldn't come at a better time.

Love that.

Man, Maybe maybe we should get maybe we should go read it in a library.

Man, it's a good idea.

You want to read some of these emails at the library.

You got emails from the labe.

Yeah, I'm curious you you sparked my interest in this in this letter.

We're going to do that.

I love by the way, I love your show, the new show, Kirk Cameron Show.

Yeah, oh thank you.

You feel like you.

I feel like you've kind of hit a stride with this show.

Do you feel like that?

Well?

Thanks?

Yeah.

You know, it's kind of like running running a five k.

I can't run a marathon, so I can't speak to that, but but it's like running a five k, Like the first mile is the hardest, right then you kind of all of a sudden, you're like you kick in the stomach, ache's gone, and now you're cruising.

So we started the Kirk Cameron Show just a couple of months ago, and I think we've done like forty five episodes, and it's what I love about it is we couldn't figure out what types of content to provide because I wanted to do like morning devotions with people over a couple of coffee at sunrise, and we actually do that every Monday Monday morning.

But then we come back in on Wednesdays and my son's always got some wild, bizarre, dangerous conversation that I normally wouldn't have on television because it's about you know, the transgender movement, or it's about AI girlfriends, and it's about pastors and pornography.

And so we decided, let's just have an unfiltered Wednesday dangerous conversation with a twenty one year old son.

And then Fridays is a weekly wrap up of politics and pop culture.

So what in the world happened at Chip and Joanna Gaines?

And why why did you know Elon Musk wrote John Trump?

And then what's going on with the Putin Zelenski Trump meeting in Alaska?

And how do we filter that through a biblical lens and actually do something about it, not just gossip and complain about it.

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Your son is brilliant, by the way too, it's easy to listen to.

He's going to get don't say that out loud.

He's going to get a big head.

I'm not.

I won't tell him.

You said that he does he do all the research for these things.

Yeah, he does.

He does all of this.

And today we actually recorded an episode today.

It's going to come out on Wednesday, and it's uh, it's all about tomorrow.

Yeah, it's all about.

This is ering later.

Sorry I dated you there.

Actually just filmed an episode where he wants to talk about what is true worship and why are we doing it?

And it really came down to his being fed up with churches that have this section in the service where people seem to just have a sort of an emotional religious performance it appears, or get some spiritual goosebumps and enjoy a feeling.

And he's wondering, is that what the scriptures say worship is all about?

It's it's music and singing and you know, falling down on your knees and crying.

What is worship after all?

And did Jesus ever do it?

And if so, what does it look like?

And so it was kind of a kind of a look into false religion versus true religion, I'm sorry, false worship versus true worship.

And it was really interesting.

That is so fascinating, such a great topic that we need to keep at the forefront right now because I think because it's first of all, the idea that music is the only worship is a foreign thought and very modern.

That work.

You've got, you got your church service, and part of it is worship, and that's the music part, which is totally false.

It's never that's just fascinating stuff.

And and then the idea is that if there is there is, if there's any kind of performance going on, which is also a very modern idea, where there's there would be people performing.

Then that means that the majority of the people are consuming.

They're just consuming, they're just kind of absorbing it, and they have no no contribution to the worship at all, which is another very strange thing.

You could not explain this to people two hundred years ago.

Right, Yeah, it's it's it's so it's so different.

One of the one of the questions that he asked me and I thought was really interesting, is is he's you know, I know a lot of friends who you know, they they dress up, they put on their best jeans and boots and and you know, a tight fitting shirt that shows off their their biceps and their their newest tattoo, and they they show up, they're looking forward to being with their friends.

They can't wait for lunch afterward, and they want to have a really good spiritual massage from the music, and they're hoping the pastor tell some really good jokes and some funny stories.

And he said, I wonder if you took all those things away, if if if my friends would still want to go to church, Like if you told them we're not going to go to lunch afterward, and everyone just needs to wear the same thing, like like everyone's just going to be in like khakis and a blue shirt everybody, so like there's no impressing anybody with your wardrobe.

And we're going to take away all of the music.

We're just going to preach the word.

We're going to have communion and renew our covenant vows, maybe a baptism and a testimony, and maybe we're going to sing three hymns and then after word, you got to go home for at least three or four hours, you know, if you want to get together with your family at night and have dinner whatever.

But the church experience is going to be stripped down to that.

I wonder how many people would still go, And I was like, that's the church I'm looking for.

I mean, please, somebody start a church like that, because because I'm not personally I love friends, but I'm not going to church for that.

I want to encounter God through his word and through the institutions of baptism and the Lord's Supper and testimony and right and like and and and the hymns so rich that it makes me think about Christ and what He's done and the greatness of God.

More than you know, my heart cry for God to hold my heart.

So long ago, two thousand years ago ish, justin Martyr, you remember him in church history, he writes, he writes a book, I think it's called the Apology, and he lays out what church is.

And this is like in one forty five AD, you know, early second century, and he writes, on the day called Sunday, which first of all, they were worshiping on Sunday right there, all the way back to the Apostles.

On a day called Sunday, we gather from the cities and the towns and the country, and the president, which is what they call for the pastor, stands up and exhorts everyone according to the writings of the prophets or the letters of the Apostles, and so he's basically expositing scripture and applying it to their lives, praying that then the bread and the wine are passed out and an offering is taken for those that are a need at the time.

And it just describes like exactly what you just said.

And people have been doing that for two thousan nears.

Man, you gotta, I gotta go look that up.

Justin Martyr, and you said the Apology.

I think it's called the first apology.

I got to read that.

Yeah, that's and there's an excerpt from that that it's exactly what they do for church.

It's our earliest history of what church looks like.

And that's exactly what you just described.

It hasn't changed at all.

Well, that's really interesting, and I think I think the realific, you know, because we can argue in debate about oh, well it should be this, well we have a secret sensitive church for well, we have a you know, I mean all those different things, you know, the style of music in the in the the the order of worship and all that, all that kind of stuff.

But I I I would really love to see just what happens if you were to do that again.

Yeah, I really think it's I think that's pretty awesome.

Yeah, we were.

We were actually talking earlier today that church which is you know, actually as the gathering of people.

It is for the gathering of Christians so that the body could be built up and God could be glorified through that gathering, which is all all worship.

And so if if we look at church is more of an outreach like a revival tent where we're trying to bring people in, which bringing people to church is great, is a great thing, but it's not the first priority.

The first priority must be the gathering of the Saints, the Christians, the believers that come together to be built up, mutually edified.

They can grow in the Lord be have scripture spoken and applied and illustrated to them.

That it has to be that.

Otherwise where are Christians going to go?

Yeah, we're not going to grow if it's every single week, is just an outreach deal.

Yeah, you know, I'm in the media business, and so I'm always thinking about producing movies and TV shows or even with a podcast like this.

You know, you have you have, you have marketing officers and people, and you're trying to grow your customer base and expand your social media influence or i mean your sociald media influence.

When all of that starts to resonate with what I'm also seeing at churches, I think something's wrong When it feels like the order of worship or there is a run of show or a playlist of songs and sermons and elements that's perfectly timed to get one or two or three services through in order to expand our customer base and then increase revenue.

Tides year over year.

Wow, it just starts to really make me feel very, very uncomfortable.

So I'm just really looking for that which is true and real and really going to build up my faith, not like the stuff that we so often see, I think, particularly in the South.

I love the South.

I love cultural Christianity.

I want my culture to be marked by Christianity, not by paganism, not by evil.

I want it to be a culture that is derived from Christianity, just not what my son calls Instagram Christianity.

He's like, unfortunately, that's a lot of what I see Instagram Christianity.

And I think that just sort of says it.

You know, it's about that picture and that moment and how I look, and you know, all all of that.

So I'm encouraged that there is a young generation who is searching and longing for authenticity and fidelity to what Scripture says we ought to be doing as christ follow.

Amen.

Wow, that's fascinating, right.

I mean to say I love cultural Christianity, it's because it's seen in such a negative light.

In fact, I've actually painted it in a negative light most of the time.

But he's right, you know, we should love to live in a culture that's based on Christian WORLDVIEP.

But what we're not saying is you should be a lukewarm cultural Christian.

Right, there's two different things here, So we should love the culture of Christians and and push against people that are mild Christians.

Yeah, could I just double click on that for a second.

I think it's really really interesting.

We were talking today about about true worship versus false worship.

Think of the Pharisees.

I hadn't thought about that this until just this this second, when when you mentioned it.

But they were cultural Jews, right, I mean they had they had you know, we talk abou cultural Christianity is I could say it's fake it shall They had cultural Judaism to where I mean, it had all all of the packaging and the wrapping.

But Jesus came down the hardest on them and said, look, the outside of the cup is sparkling clean.

You got these robes and prayers and all this stuff, but the inside is full of dead men's bones.

And he didn't just say just clean the inside of the cup, that's all that matters.

He said, clean the inside of the cup first, then the outside will become clean as well.

And I think that's the kind of cultural judaism or back in that day, which yeah, I mean Jerusalem didn't last long, you know, another forty years, and it was it was destroyed.

But I think that we have in the New Testament, the New Covenant order, have the opportunity to bring about cultural Christianity that is the result of an overflow of the inside of the cup being clean, because the heart is overhauled by the Gospel spilling over and cleaning the outside of culture, which is family, which is government, which is the arts, which is education, which is all of these things.

And that is that is the true hope of our our pilgrim forefathers and fore mothers.

And I think the answer to Jesus's prayer word, mayor Kingdom come, and you will be done on earth as it is in heaven, not just in our hearts, so we can get out of the earth and to heaven, but so that we can heavinize the earth to the power of the Gospel flowing from the inside to the outside.

This is so helpful, This is so helpful.

I I heavenize the earth.

We should say we want cultural Christianity, but we need to go about it.

The right way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's tremendous.

Okay, and man, do you want to give us this this email?

Yeah?

This is like Kirk's the perfect guy.

Yeah yeah, I think so too.

Then it's a snarky email coming.

Yes, it is very snarky, but it's not to me nor you.

It's not to either one of us, So don't worry about that.

Yeah, you're neither one of your Are there are pointed at in the snarky ism here?

It says Hey Granger, So if it is to anybody, I guess it'd be to you.

But I just saw this wild story out of China about scientists working on a pregnancy robot that could actually carry a baby to term.

Supposedly, it has an artificial womb with nutrients pumped in and everything.

Made me wonder what you think.

About stuff like this.

Is there a situation where something like this could be a good thing, like helping with infertility or premies.

Honestly, it just feels like society might be pushing too far with AI and tech, and I'd love to hear your take on it.

Thanks, Jeremy.

Have either one of you heard about this yet?

No?

I have not.

A robot womb.

What could possibly go wrong?

Nothing?

It's been perfected, Kirk, It's been perfected.

Come on, did you look this up?

Did you fit?

Did you fact check this at all?

Yes?

I did?

Okay, here's what we do know.

A prototype timeline is already in the works, expected by I believe the fall of twenty twenty six.

A prototype.

How it works.

The artificial wound contains synthetic ambiotic fluid, and the fetus received nutrients and oxygen and through it to much like an umbilical cord.

The cost projection they already have that from estimated at about one hundred thousand yen or in the United States just under fourteen thousand dollars.

So this could be appealing to some surrogacy because that right there already runs between like one hundred and two hundred thousand dollars here in the United States.

The motivation.

Yeah, seen as a potential solution to infertility, reducing physical and emotional burdens on women and addressing demographic challenges such as declining birth rates.

So yeah, there's some validity behind this.

They say that multiple reputable news outlets reported that a Chinese company named Kiwa Technology has unveiled plans for a pregnancy robot.

Kirk, you have four adopted children?

Is that right?

Yes, that's right?

This?

What is this?

What does this mean for for our worldview?

Do you think?

Well?

First of all, I don't hit the panic panic button with stuff like this, because I remember that when they when they, when technology had gotten to the point, uh, and evil had gotten to the point where the hearts and minds of men were only evil continually and uh and they and they built a great, big tower called Babbel.

God had no problem frustrating their plans, scattering them and starting over.

So if you want to talk about the great reset, you know, uh, Klaus Schwab ought to be shaking in his boots about a bigger, great reset that could you know, swallow him up in the deluge.

So I don't hit the panic button because I know that the blessed controller of all things is behind the curtain, and he's working all things together for good for those who love him and are called according to his purpose.

So that's my that's my framework there.

I say, Okay, what do I think about robotic wounds?

Well, you know, look, I wouldn't be surprised if that robotic womb actually started with a robotic wife and you could just pregnate her.

You know, they work that out.

I mean, I've seen robots that are already walking around with AI and and flesh like you know, substances on the body and with I mean there's one hundred percent of that stuff's all coming down the shoot.

And then who needs a wife anymore?

Who needs a husband anymore?

You know, she'll do everything you want.

She never says no, and she'll make the baby with the green eyes and the curly hair that you want, and it'll be cheaper than adoption or IVF or whatever.

So I think all that's gonna be possible at the end of the day.

Do I trust that that's going to be a good thing.

Well, we could say that it's a good thing, and that's how you get it to kind of go through with tax dollars and stuff.

But we have a terrible track record.

I mean, I mean, look look what we do with opioids, and look what we do with uh ai and other technology.

Now, we don't have the moral maturity to keep up with what God has allowed us to discover technologically.

And if if we don't stop being retarded morally and spiritually, we're going to kill ourselves and God will, I believe, will let us do it.

So with regard to to all of these things, I don't know where it's going to go.

I don't I don't have a crystal ball.

But God, God knows the past, the present, of the future, and he will use it for the good of those who love him.

But it's sure, is it sure?

Is fascinating?

And I think at the end of the day it will come down to people having to make the decision that it'll come down to what does it even mean to be human?

I mean, we've already gotten to the point what does it mean to be a man?

And and and and the elites in the academic circles can't seem to even answer the question what does it mean to be a woman?

I think it's going to get to what does it mean to be a human?

And and and it's going to ultimately come down to either we're made in the image of God or we're just a bunch of chemical reactions and electrical impulses.

And if that's all we are, then what's wrong with transhumanism and robotic wounds?

Maybe just an improvement on the on the on the evolutionary design.

But if we're made in the image of God, then our first priority must be to honor our creator and ask him how we ought to be making babies.

Which the Bible's is very detailed on.

Many times the Bible will bring up a womb or in the design and a mother's relationship to the womb.

In fact, Abraham and Sarah couldn't have a baby, and in their in faithfulness, they tried to go to not a robotic womb, but they.

Right and would they not have though if this were available?

Yeah, hey, this is you know, this is the this is the answer to God's plan for our family.

This robot right.

Here, and I mean that's the that's the that's the challenge with things like I v F.

Right.

I have family members who have children today through IVF, and we also know the the tragedy and the heartbreak that is the downside of IVF.

All these little embryos that are being flushed away that could be people, and we're saying that they're embryos, just like little embryos that are in a womb that get aboarded.

And so it's this kind of technology presents great moral dilemmas.

And we need to pick up our game morally and our ability to reason biblically.

And what's the story of your your four children adopted?

Are there different stories?

Well, they each have their own different story that they're all We adopted them all about a year apart, and from all different places here in the US.

And our kids.

We have two boys and three girls, and now they all live here in Tennessee.

Some of them are married, some of them are not.

We have a granddaughter, and so we're kind of like the Brady Budge, except without Alice and and and the Butcher and Sam the Butcher.

I love it.

Man.

Well, we are going to see you Lord Willing very soon.

Amber.

Ye, Amber has a.

Book excited for you for you to come out.

Thank you, and let's make sure we go you have lunch, dinner or something.

Yeah.

Absolutely, well, brother, it's good to see you.

You look good in that Tennessee T shirt.

You look good in front of that white brick.

The beard man, The beard's growing in.

Little Beard's growing in nicely.

We'll see you by a camp fire very soon.

That sounds great.

And thanks again for all your encouragement, and please keep up the good work.

We need thoughtful, educated, good communicators of biblical truths that are family focused and God honoring like you, So please don't stop doing what you're doing.

Well, brother, I think the same thing about you.

You're such an encouragement to me and so many so thank you as well.

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