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Is Our Government Trying To Fake The Second Coming?

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Speaker 1

The rumor is, and we're going to address this, that maybe the government, or even worse, a deep state collaborative government, is trying to simulate a second coming of Christ.

How crazy is that?

Let's discuss You think the government is going to try to manipulate some kind of holographic second coming in that people might actually believe it.

Is that what we're talking about today?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Yeah, and it comes I know, I had an email.

I had an email come into the podcast when you actually had somebody else say something to do about it.

And I think once we have something like that happen, it's like confirmation.

We need to discuss it here, we can talk about it.

It's something we talk about and we're kind of colliding to worlds right now too.

Speaker 1

This is very after Midnight Talk, Yeah, which is our radio show, and we talk about things because people are listening overnight.

It's dark outside, they're working jobs, they're sometimes truckers that are on the open road, and they're you know, rolling around really deep topics.

That's kind of what this one sounds like.

And we I don't want to be a conspiracy type podcast.

I don't want to do that.

In fact, it's the opposite I want to take conspiracies occasionally and just dismantle them, yes, with that word, instead of instead of run them down these rabbit holes.

I want to say, hang on a second, let's use the word the scripture and dismantle and just just pull pull its legs off of it.

And that's that's what we're going to try to do today.

Speaker 2

I think it's important too.

Since twenty twenty, everybody's minds, whether you're a conspiracy theorist or not, has wandered down the lane of a conspiracy or wanner right.

You know, so you've had thoughts like what if one of these is true?

And what happens?

And you know, how would I know the different especially something like this, How would I know the difference between that?

And then your mind starts playing tricks on your like, man, would I even know if it wasn't if it wasn't Jesus coming back and you Yeah.

Speaker 1

And by the way, what we're not saying is that all conspiracies are false.

That is by no means.

I think a lot of these conspiracies are true.

The one we're about to talk about it, I haven't heard the email yet, but that very well might be true.

Use COVID.

Was COVID a conspiracy?

Was you know, the vaccines?

Maybe it was nine to eleven of a conspiracy.

Maybe that's when I say dismantle conspiracies.

That's not what I mean.

I'm not saying we're going to take some a truth claim of a conspiracy and make sure everyone knows it's actually false.

I'm not smart enough to do that enough.

I don't have enough research or enough college degrees to do that, and I don't have the time to read every book about nine to eleven or vaccines.

Now, we could discern on our own, with common sense a couple of these, but that's not the point.

The point is we're using scripture to say, stop being afraid of these type things, Right, that's what we want to do.

That's what I mean.

Take the legs off of it.

Take the legs off of the anxiety, the worry, the constantly feeling like someone is coming to get you.

And when they do, when the men in the black mask and the black suburban sew it at your door, don't worry.

You're in great hands.

That's what that's what we're doing.

But before we get into this email and run down this whatever the rabbit hole this is.

I'm excited about this because I've heard it from two different sources that this actually might be a thing.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and it's old too, by the way, this conspiracy is really old.

Speaker 1

And apparently like adapting to New Top.

Speaker 2

Sure, yeah, yeah, I think.

And we'll get into this thing a little bit.

But when it was first proposed, none of the technology existed.

But here we are in twenty twenty five, fascinating and a lot of.

Speaker 1

The technology actually exists.

Speaker 2

But since the last episode, tickets have gone on sale for the live tour.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so how are you feeling about it?

Great?

Speaker 2

I mean, it's my first one.

So how are you feeling about it?

You know how this feels.

Speaker 1

I am very comfortable with this because touring is something I've done for a very long time.

So being on stage doing what we're doing right now in front of a live audience seems very natural.

In fact, this is what feels unnatural, is going for so long without it all.

Yeah, okay, I got it.

In fact, we have a red couch over here that's empty.

Sometimes we have a guest and but it's empty, and I kind of I'm kind of thinking we should just have random people friends that we're pouring into come on you know, yeah, hey, what are you doing at noon?

Come on over and right say.

Speaker 2

It with us.

Once we get our routine day like we're it's funny.

As soon as we get something settled I either room, we shake things up again and then one of us proposes, hey, what if we did this and now, I mean even things on the radio show are changing.

Speaker 1

Things on the podcast are changing, and it's funny.

Speaker 2

It's like, soon as we can kind of get a handle on this, that'd be cool, just have people to pop in.

Speaker 1

And it does.

So we plan on having Kirk Cameron coming up on the next episode.

That's the plan, how l Rod dear friend, possibly even then the one after that.

We can make our plans.

The Lord establishes our steps.

So we plan on these things.

But as those are two in a row of people that will be on the TV screen here yeah or no, how will be in person?

Speaker 2

Yeah he lives close to us.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he lives in Austin.

Kirk will be on TV.

So we could have people come and sit in and just listen or watch, so that that could be fun.

Speaker 2

Love so go to I would say the tour.

You can buy tickets, right now grangersmith dot com slash tour, And there are five cities that we're going to have you ever memorized yet, I do not McPherson Kansas, Kansas, Coming Georgia, Georgia, Arlington, Texas, Texas, Franklin, Tennessee, Tennessee.

Speaker 1

And Ashland, Kentucky.

Ashland, Kentucky.

Yeah, okay, And.

Speaker 2

You can see the dates.

You can get the tickets.

They're available now, you can buy them now.

Franklin and Franklin's one that's going to be hard one.

It's not as many tickets as the other one.

And we both have lived there and worked in Nashville for a long time.

Not that they're coming to see me, but what I mean is that we all have people there that are going, Hey, I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1

That one.

I'm a little worried about that.

Speaker 2

More people have said that than I know tickets are.

Speaker 1

I don't worry about that.

And then then there's people right now in California and Oregon and Washington going, hey, West coast here, what's going on?

Uh?

And to that, we're sorry.

We plan on doing more of these type things.

Speaker 2

There were a few that we were trying to iron out details for that just didn't It just didn't work out.

Their dates didn't match what we could do, and what we could do didn't match what they had available.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so I had to say, all right, next one, we'll do it again.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, God willing Man, I'm excited to see how this first one, this first tour goes these first five cities.

And again, just honored that you guys asked me to go with you.

Speaker 1

It's gonna be fun.

We're gonna have a relaxed environment, enough meet and greets, we'll meet everyone that comes.

We'll have and we'll probably I'm imagining that we'll it'll be very open.

We'll have conversations with people in the audience as we're talking.

It's gonna be it's gonna be a very unique experience.

And what do you call it a night with Granger number, a night.

Speaker 2

With the Well, I think we tried to complicate, like, oh, let's think of something really like, but it's a night with Granger Number.

Yeah, what if we just called it what it is?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, that's what a night with Granger number.

And of course Amber's book's coming out October fourteenth.

The Girl in the Bathroom Floor and all kind of kind of goes around all of that as well.

And man, what a what an exciting time.

Of course, I've read your book read like a river.

I haven't read hers yet.

I'm excited to read this.

Speaker 1

I haven't read it since she's done a lot of edits.

Oh okay, got it.

So when I first read it, I loved it because it it literally felt like reading text messages from her.

There wasn't it's it's not that casual.

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That's a good word.

It's very casual writing.

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You don't feel like you're trying to grasp the narrative that she's trying to spend.

It's just like, hey, here's the deal.

It is it text message type and the whole book is like that.

Wow.

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I love that.

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Speaker 2

October fourteenth is when her book comes out.

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Email podcast at grangersmith dot com.

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Answer questions in this fashion.

So podcast at grangersmith dot com.

As the last week's episode, hater call said, who is Granger Smith?

That you are qualified to answer a question just failed country music?

Why would I ask a question to failed country singer Granger Smith?

Speaker 2

If you're confused right now, you need to go watch last week's.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And to his point, that's probably a good question, Buddy, I don't know.

Speaker 2

I get a lot out of asking you questions and hearing your answers.

Speaker 1

So it's more.

And I've said that there's a reason I've said this from the beginning.

The questions here in this podcast is supposed to feel like we're driving down the road, two people in the cab of a truck and you say, hey, Granger, I talked to you about something.

Something's been on my mind.

I say, yeah, what is it?

And you go into a question.

I answer it.

I've said this before as if I'm a friend reacting in real time to your question.

That's the way it's supposed to be.

It's not supposed to feel like you're sitting on a on a green couch and I had, because I have all these stacked up psychological degrees, I'm going to systematically walk through you.

My No, I'm just gonna say you, buddy, If I was you, I would do this.

If I were you, I would cut this off.

If I were you, I'd tell her I'm blocking you on Facebook, whatever it might be.

That's that's the way I want this to be.

Speaker 2

All right, you want to share your story or would you like me to read the email?

Speaker 1

Which one should read the email?

Read the email which once again podcastergrangersment dot com and this this is a conspiracy.

Apparently it's a very weird one.

But I think there's people listening right now that go, yep, that's happening.

Speaker 2

Okay, well what do you Let's see it's a Hey Granger, I hope you're doing well.

I came across something recently called Project Bluebeam, this conspiracy theory about a supposed global deception involving advanced holograms and staged events to usher in some kind of one world religion or government.

I'm curious what your thoughts are on it, and do you think there's any truth to it at all or is it just another far out Internet rumor.

If it were true, what do you think the impact would be for believers?

Would something like this be a major deception that could shape people's faith or do you think those rooted in Christ would be able to see right through it.

I'd love to hear your perspective, especially from a biblical standpoint, because I'm just trying to wrap my head around what's real here and what's just noise.

Speaker 1

Looking forward to your thoughts.

Speaker 2

John, It's fascinating.

I've heard of this before.

Speaker 1

I don't know if it's We're not going to figure out if this is real or not, but it's an interesting thought exercise.

Speaker 2

I did some research on what it is and when it started.

But you, somebody said, and the reason we're talking about this now is because.

Speaker 1

Sean from Keeping It Dutch YouTube channel Shawn text me, and I love Sean and he is he is a believer, and he but he gets down these rabbitals.

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

I don't know how far he goes, but he'll send me things occasionally.

Now, the thing he sent me was a did I send it to you?

Let's play it.

But but it is it is not as much of a second Coming, which I guess Project Bluebeam is kind of all encompassing different scenarios that might happen for the purpose of one world government.

Speaker 2

Is that right, Right, that's the idea.

And I'll share a little bit of this too with the end.

I think right from the start, with the names that I'm going to say, for believers, you'll instantly it'll instantly give you insight into going, Okay, if they try this, there's there's people that are going to go instantly, this is not real.

Speaker 1

But you want to watch this video?

Yeah, But what I was gonna say is that this video is one sliver of the scenario and it's not a second Coming of Christ.

This is instead an arrival of a spacecraft and it's the manipulation of a false flag news story that there is a spaceship coming from another planet to our country with the purpose of us unifying as a world and going we better come together to get ready for the arrival of these UFO people.

And but like eventually that's got to give you know.

But I guess what they want to accomplish is they I don't know who they is, they want to bring us together under one world rule.

And then by the time that happens, then it's too late.

When we figure out there wasn't actually a spacecraft coming, then it's too late.

We're already under this regime.

Yeah, that's kind of thing.

Speaker 3

Clearly, a long time NASA insider just blew the lid of something huge.

According to this whistleblower, the agency, along with other federal players, is already laying the groundwork for a global conm epic proportion.

Speaker 1

The plan is simple and terrifying.

Speaker 4

Step one social conditioning.

If you've noticed the sudden flood of UFO stories on mainstream media, that's not my accidents.

It's a carefully crafted narrative designed to prep the masses for what comes next.

Because in twenty twenty five, Eligue plan to stage the ultimate force flag, a fake alien invasion the gold, to terrify the world into submission, unite humanity under one banner, and roll out a one old government in the name of survival.

And if that sounds insane to you, that's exactly what they're counting on.

Speaker 2

Here's the thing.

Speaker 4

We've got the documents, lead emails, PowerPoint presentations with even Project Code News prove that this isn't just a conspiracy giving it's a plan that's been decades in the making.

Speaker 3

Back in January, filmmaker and investigator Jeremy Corbell dropped a bike bombshell.

Insiders have known for decades what's coming in late twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4

This is in sudden, it's not spontaneous.

The plans have been embushed behind his most three years.

Speaker 5

But the lie is covered all indications, like all of them.

Is it?

That lie is going to be There is a crowd slowly making its way to us here on earth, and that is the lie they're going to want you to believe.

Speaker 2

You do want to find fascinating of this whole thing is that they're making their plans on PowerPoint.

Speaker 1

The power point We've got the power points.

Speaker 2

Yes, we've got the documents.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, that's funny.

So I don't believe that it's going to happen the fall of twenty twenty five, and this is a couple months we're talking to like it needs to happen right now where you find out of this craft.

But once again that that's not the point.

The point of this podcast is not whether or not these guys are right or whether these guys are wrong, it definitely sounds like a legitimate plan that somebody would, you know, some evil master mind would have to take over do will you know that there's that Whether or not they could do it or not, maybe they can, it's not my concern.

My concern is to take the legs out of the fear, the anxiety of such a claim.

Speaker 2

Because even if it's not this, if it's something else, if it's if it's COVID two point zero or whatever, you want to you know that, I mean, think about how much fear that really swept and gripped a lot of people through twenty twenty and of just understanding truly what we're dealing with here.

Nothing outside of God's control, nothing now, even if it's the worst pandemic ever.

Nothing Like I did read something the other day is like, man, life is short.

You got to do whatever, Like nobody says eternity is long.

You should start thinking about that, like this is so short?

Speaker 1

Oh man, yeah, right, Okay.

Speaker 2

So this whole thing started in the nineteen nineties.

As my daughter Grace would say, it is a fifth grader man, the nineteen hundreds.

Dad, you were born in the nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 1

Wow, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2

It started in the nineteen hundreds claiming or nineteen nineties claiming NASA and the United Nations plan to use advanced holograms, fake alien invasions, and mind control to dismantle religions and establish a one world government.

Now, earlier, I said that when this started, this technology did not seem plausible.

Twenty twenty five though, it definitely seems plausible with I mean, we've all seen the robot dancing and doing backflips, and everybody here watching, listening today has probably used chat GPT for something.

So when this started, this is this is way far out.

It was proposed by a Canadian journalist, Surge Monast.

It outlines four steps falsifying archaeological discoveries, okay, projecting religious figures in the sky.

I'll get to that a little bit just a seconds.

See broadcasting voices into people's heads Okay, I'm not really sure what that is.

And staging supernatural events.

Speaker 1

So that that could include a craft moving slowly like they said, moving slowly correct our direction.

Speaker 2

Okay, you remember watching Independence Day?

Yeah, Like, I thought that was the most amazing technology to have to be able to do in a movie, and I watched it again the other day, I go, some of this is really cheesy.

Yeah yeah, And but if it looks so real today, and if it's just broadcast, you know, I don't know if you can they would be able to do it in real time where people could see it.

Speaker 1

But yeah, well that's that's that movie is the example of what we're talking about exactly.

That's that the world came together.

Yep, everybody came there.

Everybody came together save the world.

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah, okay.

So the core claims is that simulated Second Coming.

So this is one of the cores to this is the theory alleges that NASA will use advanced technology to project realistic, large scale holograms of religious figures Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, et cetera.

So I'm wondering do they do they divide it up by part of the world, Like America gets Jesus and somebody else gets Mohammed, and like and they're all going up here at the same time.

Speaker 1

Is it like Star Wars when you see Obi Wan and Yoda and Anakin and then you know, and happy gilmore, the same thing happens, you know, that's right over the house.

Speaker 2

Yeah with uh, what was the guy with the one hand jobs?

Or yes, exactly Off topic of fake alien invasion, some versions claim that the project would stage a false alien invasion to unite humanity under a single world government.

Speaker 1

I wonder if that's already happened.

I wonder if that's been attempted before.

Anyway, it was on broadcast radio.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2

Worldwide mind control in quotes, The operation would allegedly use ELF or extremely extremely low frequency waves, telepathy and other tech to manipulate thoughts and emotions on a global scale, which I think they kind of do a little bit in advertising in general.

I've heard of that before.

Not ELF, but definitely.

Speaker 1

It could be a whole new level with neuralink too, or any any kind of chip implanted into your mind.

Speaker 2

Abolishing religion by staging supernatural events and disproving traditional faiths.

The theory claims that the ultimate goal is to usher in a new one world religion and a government.

Speaker 1

Okay, now we're getting too the Bible.

Yeah, that's there.

That's that's fascinating to me.

Abolishing religion has been that that was a that was a Marxist claim.

You know that was that was the idea, you know, one of the main ideas behind Marxism was let's get rid of religion, let's just do away with it.

And as an atheist, you could say, that's not a bad idea because it causes so much division and it prevents people from carrying out their agenda.

Religion does, so let's just abolish it.

But the funny, it's it's funny how you could never squash it out.

I've mentioned to you I talked for a long time with an atheist, a German atheist.

We talked for over a year, debating back and forth, and I remember telling him that your idea of squashing out religion because an atheist would say, let's just get rid of it, which is in itself a strange argument, because we live in a country that was bounded on that there was founded on a Christian worldview, the Christian the Judeo Christian idea of you know, laber neighbor and and and don't steal, and don't lie, you know, don't murder, don't murder, don't covet.

So we are actually a really good nation because of that if as long as we're abiding by that, whether or not, you're religious or not.

If you're abiding under that world view, it's gonna be a nice society.

But the point is talking to this guy said, I understand your your idea is to squash and eradicate religion, but it's you have to admit it's interesting that it has never been done.

You could take a you could take a family and and and give false truth to the to the mom and dad so that they become atheist.

But then they have a little baby somewhere down the road that all of a sudden starts worshiping.

You cannot squash generation after generation after generation of atheist a these days, and then all of a sudden there's a baby that worships.

You can't get rid of it.

And I'm not talking about just Christianity, because because as Christians we understand this is spiritual warfare, and so we we could explain in our worldview the existence of all the other religions, because we could say, people, first of all, there will be false christ there will be false prophets, there will be false gods, all run by by the by the enemy.

But we could explain, of course there's Islam, of course there's there's Hindu.

Of course, there's there's Buddhist.

Of course, there's uh, you know, put put your false religion in there.

Of course, there's the the Native Americans that were that worship the sun or whatever it might be in in in the old Mexica.

The earth people have it.

People always have a proclivity to worship because it's it's in us to worship.

And that's not it's not a disease that we have or that's not a deficiency, that's not ignorance that tells someone there must not be anything else.

So there must be a God that's not ignorance, that's something else in our DNA that wants to look up and reach up and organize, look up, reach up, pray and organize.

And so you get these different factions of religions.

So we as Christians, we go, yeah, yeah, we could explain that why they are all these flood stories from other religions.

Well, we could explain that why are there messiahs and and God incarnate perfect representatives of God?

You know, why does that echo throughout humanity?

We could explain that an atheists can't an atheist goes, I want to eradicate it.

I want to crush religion, and it just keeps popping up like whack a mole.

It's like weeds in a garden and they just keep You cannot pull them enough.

They keep coming up, all right, keep going.

Well.

Speaker 2

I was going to say that big thing on this was why is it popular or why?

You know, actually, I think that it has.

It was popular than the nineteen nineties, and then it kind of faded off.

It's come back up a couple of other times.

I've heard this actual project bluebeing be something that has been brought up on you know, either podcasts or on tiktoks.

Speaker 1

Or what have you.

Speaker 2

But modern technology, a technology advanced especially with real holograms deep fakes, that is much more realistic today than ever before, and AR and VR the theory seems less far fetch to people today than it did back when it was first introduced, and it's kind of almost just a thought in the nineties and now it feels like it could be much more realistic.

Distrust of authority, that's I think that that is, if if nothing else, one of the biggest things that happened from twenty twenty was the distrust of authority and in times of uncertainty, people are more susceptible to believing in vast secret plots.

Blending religion and sci fi.

The idea combines biblical prophecy, ufo lore, and government conspiracy, appealing to a wide range of audiences.

Connective tissue people who are all about UFOs with things supernatural, things from the Bible or from stories you've heard in the past, and and and this being stuff that connects the two and brings it together.

Speaker 1

And so to that, you know, science has now proven that we all come, all humanity comes from a single mother.

Right, so you could make that argument, we know that what that to be Adam and Eve, of course, but you could make the argument that maybe there was a seed from an ancient spacecraft, right that delivered and then they delivered a religious order to keep us in line.

But once again, that theory, which you know, I get, I understand perfectly, but that theory neglects the idea that that babies are born and look up and begin to worship without hearing anything, without learning, without being without being taught about God.

They it's in them.

So it doesn't explain that it's in the DNA, not something just given to us as a roadmap.

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Speaker 2

There's much more.

I mean, it gets really deep and tell this, but I think that gives you a good a little below the surface layer of what this whole theory was about, from from what your friends sent to you and what the email that came in asking about it, that I think that what it kind of touches on is the fear that we have about what happens after this or there's a lot more time.

I mean, we even talked about a couple episodes ago that someone was asking, is Trump the Antichrist?

People are looking to Oh my gosh, could we be living in the time that the anti Christ rises to power and rules over the world.

And what's funny is that I remember being twelve thirteen and thought, oh, this is going to happen any day.

From the messages in the in the the you know, the inside of the conservative Christian world.

Carmen, the old singer Karmen, some of his stuff was about you know, end time stuff.

And then we had books and you know, Left Behind series came in and just all all these thoughts of two K.

Yeah, exactly, oh why two K?

Speaker 1

Why too?

Speaker 2

I've thought about y two K in a long time, But you're exactly right.

I mean, people just thinking oh, it's all going to end, yes, And the truth is yes, it will all end, But the Bible talks about how it will.

Speaker 1

All end, and it's.

Speaker 2

Not going to be Jesus and Muhammad and Buddha up picking which part of the world that they're going to appear to.

Okay, I'll take this side of the world, you take the other side.

The Bible is very very clear, and I hope that we can kind of carve out some time here.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

So I think there's a lot of ways to start here.

Where do we find truth?

That's that should probably be the first thing we do.

Christians.

We don't base our belief our faith on signs, miraculous signs or things that we see are our experiences, our feelings.

We don't get our truth there.

Those things can supplement our truth, sure, but they're never the foundation of truth and not the truth, not the truth.

This this works with so many things.

And that's two Timothy three sixteen easy to remember.

If you if you know John three sixteen, then you can remember two Timothy three sixteen.

There's another great three sixteen.

Speaker 2

There's a podcast just going through all the three sixteens that are Is there really no?

I'm saying we should like.

Speaker 1

That there is because you and I have talked about it.

We should make that podcast.

There're a lot of significant three sixteens, first John three sixteens, and an interesting one too.

Yes, So anyway, Two Timothy three sixteen says, all scripture, that's that's what we're holding here, is breathed out by God.

That's that's the idea that we get.

That scripture is inspired.

The human authors that wrote it are inspired by the Holy Spirit, fully in errant, meaning without error.

So all scriptures breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the Man of God may be complete, otherwise rendered whole, mature, equipped for every good work, every good work, fully mature, fully whole, fully equipped for every good work.

Essentially.

Two Timothy three sixteen and Paul the Apostles writing to Timothy, who is his disciples beloved disciple, who's who is in a shepherding role over a church?

Timothy is, and he's telling him, well, let me back up to the verse fifteen.

It's important excise me fourteen.

But as for you, speaking of Timothy, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you have learned it, and how from childhood you've been acquainted with the sacred writings, which is the Old Testament, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Jesus Christ.

That's interesting.

Verse fourteen fifteen are interesting.

Paul's saying, the Old Testament that you've become acquainted with since childhood, trust this because it those writings are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ.

All this to say, the Bible gives us all that we need to be confident in truth.

We don't need anything else.

We don't need external signs or experiences.

We don't need to see a vision, a dream, a supernatural dream of an angel, for instance, Praise the Lord.

I hope everyone gets one.

Amazing.

But if it contradicts with what the scripture says, it's false.

And even says that, Yes, if if it in any way contradicts or goes against our stands alone, apart from scripture or even our adds to it, it's false.

And we could explain that in our world view and go as from the.

Speaker 2

Enemy Galatians one eight.

Yes, it says that, but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you, a gospel contrary to the one that we preach to you, Let him be a cursed.

As we have said before, So now I say again, if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one that you received, let him be a.

Speaker 1

Cursed otherwise rendered damned to hell.

Yep, damn it to hell, that angel that voice that message.

Right, that's why we have that as a cussword.

If it's the worst thing you could say.

If an angel comes to you and gives you anything in addition to our contrary to what you have in scripture, damn it to hell.

That's the harshest thing you could say to that, to that false spirit of anti Christ, as we talked about on the podcast a few episodes ago.

Right, So that when you hear that as a cussword, it's it's.

Speaker 2

Way out of count this one explicit for you.

Speaker 1

That's what Let him be cursed, let him be an aphema, you know.

So we find we root our truth in scripture before we But I also don't want to just keep rambling.

Do you want do you have anything you want to add to this?

Well?

Speaker 2

I mean to that, I think that the establishment of a word, we find truth is very important because it doesn't mean anything if it doesn't mean truth to you.

And in the beginning was the word, the word.

The word was with God, and the word was God.

And then the word became flesh, the flesh Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1

Okay, that's good, let me let me go somewhere else, then that's great.

The the remember in John when Jesus is in the garden, and it's called in a title and to get to it called the high priestly prayer.

And it is a beautiful prayer that Jesus is praying for his people and for the future people.

And so this is in John chapter seventeen, for his future people.

This is for us.

He's praying for us.

And in in chapter seventeen, verse seventeen, another easy one to memorize.

It is John seventeen seventeen.

Sanctify them, which is us, sanctify them in the truth?

Was that make them holy?

And what's that second part of that verse?

Sanctify them in the truth?

Second part Your word is truth.

Speaker 2

Teach them your word, which is truth in the whoa whoa?

Speaker 1

Sanctify them or make them holy through truth?

What's truth?

Jesus your word, Father, Jesus proves that in Matthew four.

Let's flip over there, we go to Matthew four.

This is a This is called subtitled the Temptation of Jesus.

This is a This is the beginning of Jesus's ministry.

He is tempted in the desert by the enemy just after he got baptized, right just after he got baptized.

He's tempted by the devil.

That this chapter starts.

Then Jesus was led up by the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

And I said that I read that first verse just so people know that I'm not just.

I'm not on my own making things up.

The tempter came.

Jesus has been fasting for forty days and forty nine teen, and he was hungry.

That's a good point to remember.

The tempter came and said to him, if you are the son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.

But he answered, Jesus answered him, it is written man shall not live by bread alone, but from every word that comes from the mouth of God.

So Jesus answered him in truth, which is the word.

Okay, Then he comes back.

Then the devil took him, took him to the Holy City and set him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to him, if you are the son of God, throw yourselves, throw yourself down, for it is written he will command his angels concerning you.

So now the devil goes, oh, I got a word too.

It is written.

I could say that too.

I know the Bible.

It is written.

He will command his angels concerning you, and on their hands they will bear you up lest you strike your foot against the stone.

Jesus said to him again, it is written, you shall not put the Lord your God to the test.

The devil tempts him again.

This time the devil uses scripture and Jesus comes back at him with truth because his scripture was out of context.

Jesus was in context.

Speaker 2

And I think that's the biggest differentiator there is that the devil is you using scripture to do something contrary to what the scriptures say.

Yep, hey, you can go ahead and test.

See, he says, I if you you know this will happen.

Yeah, well that's not what it says.

Speaker 1

First Saint.

Again, for the third time, the devil took him up to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

And he said to him, all these I will give to you if you will fall down and worship me.

Then Jesus said to him, be gone, Satan, for it is written here we go back to the truth, back to the Word.

You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only in him only shall you serve.

And the devil left him, and he was he was sanctified in truth.

Speaker 2

Okay, So can I give tie a couple of things here together?

Is that the whole basis of this first part from Granger has been when something like this, like this theory or any other theory, is that you test it against the word of God, because the Word of God is truth.

Establish the truth first, which is the Word of God, then you can test.

Now here's the deal.

This test, this test of this, this conspiracy theory or whatever fear you're having in your life, is an open book test.

You get the book and you get to look the scripture up.

And yes, you can go Google, Go Google, ask GPT where does it talk about X, Y Z in the Bible and it will give you.

Don't take the actual translation out of Chad GPT, find the.

Speaker 1

Scripture, take correct, take the scripture.

Speaker 2

Look, go pull the scripture.

It says it's Matthew twenty five, verse twelve.

Go open the Bible and look at Matthew twenty and see if it answers that question for you.

And then just because something that may be used front holy things doesn't mean chet GP is just a tool.

It can help your Google is just a tool.

It can help you find stuff that you don't know yet until it gets into your heart and until it it finds root in your life, and then the Holy Spirit will start pulling this stuff back up.

If you have if you're worried about stuff like this, if say specifically.

Speaker 1

This and let me before we get too far from what you just said, let's make sure that we are Also, this is for someone you're speaking to, someone who's reading routinely in their Bibles, and then you're saying, then go search something on Google to you could find scripture to go.

But that's not for someone who's not reading their Bible or not engaged with their Bible.

They're only searching things because then you're playing Bible relettx and you're looking for things to make you feel good.

Because you could feel good all day long in the Bible.

You go, I need this, My flesh needs this.

Where's a good Bible verse to make me feel better?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 1

This isn't it's not advised because you need the whole counsel's out of context.

It's out of context.

So let's read forward systematically through the Bible so that you're going to be hearing things that your flesh doesn't necessarily want to hear.

Didn't we just read about somebody using it out of context?

Exactly?

Speaker 2

Okay?

Speaker 1

Okay, sorry, President's play again on your The whole.

Speaker 2

Thought of this is that, So I'll pulled up a few scriptures and the thought is, okay, so if if the government or the UN or this secret government, whoever it is that decides to fake a U.

Foe invasion or a fake second coming, how do you know if it's real or not?

Speaker 1

Okay?

Speaker 2

Well, what we've learned from the beginning is to go back to the word Matthew twenty four, okay, twenty four versus twenty three through twenty seven.

Speaker 1

Then if anyone tells you, boy, this is exactly this.

Speaker 2

If anyone tells you, look, here's the Messiah projected in the clouds from a high tech computer.

I don't know or there he is.

Don't believe it.

For false messiahs and false profits will rise up and perform eight signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's chosen ones.

See, I have warned you about this ahead of time, long before the nineteen hundreds, nineteen nineties.

Speaker 1

I've warned you about it.

Yeah, and you can keep going.

Yeah, twenty six yep.

So if they say to you, look he's in the wilderness, do not go out.

If they say look, he's in the inner rooms, do not believe it.

For his lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west.

So will be the coming of the sun of man.

Speaker 2

Do you want to know how he's coming back?

That was it, instantly everywhere, Yeah, all over.

It's not what we were talking before we started this.

It's not going to be something trending on TikTok or a video that someone has that's trending that's got thirty million views on Instagram.

And then we finally well, okay, maybe that is real.

This is something everybody will know all at once, instantly.

Speaker 1

Here is a to the people that want to hear it instantly on TikTok.

Right, here's an interesting one in Matthew twelve, subtitle subheading the Sign of Jonah.

So some of the scribes and pharisees answered him saying, Teacher, we're talking to Jesus.

We wish to see a sign from you.

But Jesus answered them, an evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.

And then you think, you think, well, what's he talking about here verse forty For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

So he's predicting his death and resurrection and saying, you're not gonna get a sign.

You're not gonna get it.

You're not gonna get the face in the clouds, you're not gonna you're you're not gonna get the writing on the wall.

And in fact, if you're seeking that, if that's what you want, you are an evil, adulterous generation.

He goes on verse forty one, the men of nine of them will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it for they repented at the preaching of Jonah.

Behold, something greater than Jonah is here.

That's just fascinating stuff.

You know, this makes me think, too, is we because somebody might be listening.

I'm gonna go to Romans.

Somebody might be listening, going, Okay, you guys have maj your point.

You've made your point that truth is scripture.

You trust the scripture.

Scripture testifies of itself as truth.

Obviously, Jesus, who's in scripture, uses scripture to testify truth.

He prays to the Father to saying, to be sanctified in truth.

We understand your point.

I think we've made that point.

Yes, But how do you know, aunt man, How do you know, Granger, that that's truth?

How do you that's fine that you say that truth is is something that you don't need to feel or experience.

It's said it's something objective that you could know.

How do you know?

Well, Romans eight is a great place to and there's a lot of places for all these things, but Roman's eight sixteen.

He's making the argument to the recipients of this letter to not fall back into what he calls the spirit of slavery or back into fear, as they once were before they were saved.

They were at one time, and we were too anxious about everything, anxious about death, anxious about sickness, anxious anxious about bills to pay, anxious about jobs, anxious about persecution or tax or whatever it might be.

It was the same two thousand years ago as it is today.

He's saying, don't fall back into that right, because you have received the spirit of adoption as sons by whom we cry Abbah, which is like daddy, daddy father.

And then here's here's the kicker.

In Romans eight sixteen, the Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.

He goes on, and if children, then heirs errs of God and fellow errs with Christ.

That's amazing.

So how do we know truth?

The Spirit bears witness with your spirit that you're a child of God.

That doesn't that doesn't help someone else, But someone else could see fruit of that.

Correct.

So when you, when you, when the spirit bears witness of truth within your spirit, you should be changed.

People should look at you and go some things different about Granger.

Granger is not the same guy he was in twenty fifteen.

Granger's not the same guy he was in twenty sixteen.

He's in twenty twenty five.

Granger is different.

What is it sanctified by truth?

What is truth?

The word drenched in it?

And how do you know?

Because the Spirit his bore witness with my spirit that I am his, I am adopted.

Christ gets the kingdom because of divine right, he was born into it, a divine He's a divine child of God.

Right, we are not We are sons of wrath, you know, sons of the devil, basically, Jesus says.

But when we turn to him by faith, turn from those ways and turn to him.

Because of the Spirit's work in us, as we're reborn, we get we get to be co heirs with the divine child of Christ.

We get to share in the kingdom through adoption as sons and daughters.

That is incredible.

I mean, it's unbelievable that we should share in this right, which is why this is now I'm going off a little bit, but this is theory.

This is why Satan hates us.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, we get he loves us.

Speaker 1

Yeah, weak humans who have rebelled and run away from him.

And he says, these are made in my image.

These receive inheritance from me.

These receive sonship from me.

Satan goes what I'm an angel, I receive sonship.

No, they receive it.

That's why he hates us.

Speaker 2

Yep.

And there's no hope for him to be covered by the blood.

No, there's no redemption.

Speaker 1

No, angels will be judged and angels will be damned, not all of them.

But uh I just read that in Jude today angels, the angels will be judged.

Fascinating thought.

In here, I'll go to it right now, Beloved, I, although I was eager to write to you about the about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.

Certain people have crept in long ago unnoticed, who were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people who perfert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our Master and Lord Jesus Christ.

I want to remind you, although once although you once fully knew it that Jesus who saved the people out of the land of Egypt listen to this afterwards destroyed those who did not believe, and angels who did not stay within their own position authority, but but left their proper dwelling.

He has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the Great Day Angels.

Wow chains heavy metal song.

Speaker 2

Yo, it does maybe even a maybe a heavy metal band.

Our thought, though, especially here in America, is that angels are a medium authority, God ultimate angels have some right.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and no, there are separate species.

In fact, I read a systematic theology book that made an argument that every angel is its own species.

Oh interesting, because you see them described in different ways under the category angel.

But they're like different species with different they look different, they have different functions.

They it's it's it's like we are earthly creatures with dogs and cats and elephants and humans, and it's like angels are their own you know, many multi specie creatures.

Interesting, and they will be judged and fallen.

Angels are in change.

That is a wild thought from the Jews.

Jude's a crazy little letter, just one little, one little page.

A half brother of Jesus most likely.

Yeah, this podcasts a little bit all over the place, all over the place.

Speaker 2

But also that's kind of the nature of that whole topic anyway of conspiracy theory.

So maybe this tie back into what we originally talked about.

So we're talking about something crazy happening.

It's all going to be tech that's going to be used to manipulate our thoughts, in our minds into thinking that something big is happening.

When the what do we say at the beginning, established truth first is the Word, and then also go where do you go to find the truth?

You go into the Word to find the truth and find what really happens.

And it actually says that if you're looking for Jesus to come back, and you're wondering, hey, is this project Bluebeam or whatever other can spiracy is it?

Well, it says right here in Acts and after Jesus this is I think about this time.

He has risen from the dead, and he's appeared to lots and lots of people, including because of the apostles, and then he picks off.

He sends into heaven men of Galilee.

They said, why are you standing here?

Now?

These are the men?

These are two guys robed in white, two angels.

Yeah, that have come down and they're standing there going, hey, guys, why are you standing here staring into heaven?

Jesus has been taken from you into heaven.

Here it is, but someday he will return from heaven.

How in the.

Speaker 1

Same way you saw him go.

Speaker 2

You want to know how it's coming back the same way you saw him leave?

Speaker 1

And how do you know how?

He laughed?

Because the word said it.

You have to be in the word yeah to read it right, you have to know it's right.

Speaker 2

At the beginning of Acts, Axes, I've we're reading as a fan family reading an Axe, and I am in.

I've read, We've I've done the whole machine.

Planning went all the way through twice, but I wanted to study books, and so right now I'm in Luke.

So I'm just going through Luke right now.

So I haven't personally made it to Acts, but I think that's great.

He just you know, he he had walked around, been forty days hanging out with some people in this new resurrected body, and he took off.

Why why are you standing here?

He's not here anymore.

He went into heaven.

But again, back to what we were talking about, how will it be Will it be this giant, big thing.

It'll be instant.

One we read that earlier.

It'll be instant.

Everybody will know all at once, and it's a it's a revelation.

Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all the tribes of the earth will wail on account of him.

Speaker 1

Even so, Amen, did you get choked up there?

No, you haven't gotten too choked up yet on this podcast.

Speaker 2

None of these have been Jesus Christ, Jesus words or where I really like him talking about its where I get choked up.

But I mean it is, it does if I really think about it.

His return.

Man, that's that's the time of our eternity.

That's when it begins, and so that thinking about that definitely does.

But we've been talking about a lot of fear today, so trying to use some fear.

Speaker 1

You know, our eternity.

You know this, our eternity begins, the moment where reborn.

Oh that's true, you yeah, the what you mean is the location?

The location?

Speaker 2

Yes, it's true.

Yeah, Yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 1

Our new bodies you know that?

And how do we know that?

Yeah?

The word the word yeah.

Yeah, So I mean just to to wrap up in the easy way.

Christians do not rely on our own emotions, which you can literally be that could our emotions could be affected by a anti anxiety pill, you know, or an alcoholic drink.

We don't really blo pressure medicine, blood pressure medicine.

Your emotions could literally rise and fall depending on how much sleep you got last night.

So why we don't rely on emotions.

I really feel close to God right now.

I said, praise the Lord.

Don't rely on that, you know.

Or we also don't rely on our experiences.

I saw a sunset last night, and I think I saw the face of God.

I say, praise the Lord.

Don't rely on that.

Don't don't look at the sunset for how to know that he's coming back.

I say, great, that's a that's a great indication that we have an almighty creator that has given us seasons and beautiful sunsets and puppies and human eyeballs, you know, an amazing creator that we see.

In romans Ion, Paul lays out that all of us are left with no excuse because of this.

It's all around this.

We have suppressed truth.

So praise the Lord.

Don't rely on it.

Amen, you could rely on truth in the scripture.

And you say, I don't know, Grange, I don't know about translations.

You're reading the wrong translation.

I say, amen, Then go to the Greek.

Yeah, because we do have that as well.

We have that as well.

Go to Jerusalem and go to the the see the Great Isaiah scroll on display right now.

Speaker 2

If it's not put away like it was, if it's not put away because of a war.

I hope that this has encouraged somebody today though at least two to Hey, where do I go?

Speaker 1

What do I look up?

How do I how do I figure this out?

Is this really happening?

What happens?

If it does happen?

Speaker 2

Just if you're not in the ward daily, that's where you have to start.

Speaker 1

Get in the word daily.

There's been about three times during this podcast I thought I thought of a thought that I didn't say because I thought that'd be a good new episode, full full episode.

You know something completely, You should say them so we don't forget them.

When we go back to this episode to find the titles, I'll tell you as soon as we stop recording.

There's one specifically, but let me say one more thing.

I work with a lot of guys through different levels of discipleship, different tears, you know, and like some of them are my strong every day, you know, we're reading the same thing, we're wrestling.

And then there's some guys that are like babies might not even be converted, just watered down milk is all they could drink.

And one of them told me and doesn't listen to this podcast, he actually doesn't know who I am at all.

He doesn't know I have a platform at all.

But you know, I've been trying for months to just get him to read one chapter a day and move forward and report back what he read.

It's all amasking, and he has so much trouble just doing that because he constantly is chasing his emotions and his experiences and wanting to find something else in the Bible that makes him feel good.

Because he reads a chapter or half of a trap chapter in Matthew and goes, don't quite understand what's something I could know, What's something I could really understand, you know?

And so you messaged me the other day after many days of me praying for him and him not replying and him not reporting back anything.

You read, he sends me a clip from The Chosen and he says, this brought me to tears.

Where is this in the Bible?

And I replied, and I said, was quoting Matthew twenty four because he said I looked everywhere and I couldn't find it.

It was quoting Matthew twenty four.

But brother, don't rely on the Chosen to feed.

Please, don't.

You're you're eating cowardly, calorie less food.

It has no sustenance to it.

There's no nutrients in what you're trying to do.

If you want to watch that later, after you've you've been, You've you've had your steak and potatoes through the Word, you've been, you set, you've sat under faithful preaching in a local church, you have brothers around you, you've walked in discipleship together through life, and then you want to just sit around and watch the Chosen.

Okay, I say, okay, but you, brother, are trying to make that a thing.

You're trying to make that you're feeding.

Why.

It goes back to why because it makes you feel good.

You feel the Chosen is hitting an emotion for you that makes you feel happy and content and good and you're skipping all the parts that are convicting you of your sin.

Yeah, you know, so if there's maybe that's for someone else that goes.

I get my daily reading from an app on the Bible app or whatever that gives me my daily verse, and then I watch the Chosen, and that's my feeding.

I say, brother, a sister, you are not being fed, You're being deceived.

And that's exactly where the enemy would want you to be.

Eating food that has no calories and no nutrients and thinking you're feeling good and that's in your feelings.

Can always deceive you, and typically do I do.

Our flesh is fighting against us.

Yeah, okay, cool, More episodes to come.

This has been a good talk.

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Yeah.

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